Student Given Detention For Using Firefox [UPDATED] 818
An anonymous reader writes "Several sites are reporting that a student has been given detention for using Firefox to do his classwork. No, really. The student was in class, working on an assignment that necessitated using a browser. The teacher instructed him to stop using Firefox and to do his classwork, to which the student responded that he was doing his classwork using a 'better' browser (it is unclear whether the computer was the student's own computer or not). The clueless teacher (who called the rogue program 'Firefox.exe') ordered him to detention." Update: 12/17 20:09 by SM One of the school officials was nice enough to contact us and let us know this is a hoax. If you are planning on calling the school please refrain from doing so, I'm sure they have had enough excitement for one day.
OSS is evil. (Score:5, Funny)
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Well, the teacher was right... and wrong.
First, the teacher was wrong for not knowing what FireFox (FoxFire) is. Any teacher with a computer in the classroom should have AT LEAST that level of knowledge.
Second, the teacher was right in assigning detention. The teacher is in charge and has the right to tell the students what they can and can't run on school computers. If a student is running an application and the teacher tells the student to close it, the student needs to close it,
Re:OSS is evil. (Score:5, Insightful)
Unless the teachers is completely blind , he can see the web page the student is looking at , and can judge from that wether or not he is doing his work .
This is like a teacher telling you to copy every file in a folder , and because he only knows how to do that by right click-copy-paste , you get detention for using Ctrl-A - Ctrl-C - Ctrl-V .
It's a silly example , but it's just the same .
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"\n" will be one thing on unix, another on Windows, just like endl.
Using the equivalent of \cr\lf would have the problems you mention and thus be worthy of a loss of points.
Re:OSS is evil. (Score:5, Funny)
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Prison?
No, we can't do that - it would be against the murderer's human rights to put him to work in a shitty job...
Re:OSS is evil. (Score:5, Insightful)
However, teachers aren't absolute in their dictations, as IT is able to make recommendations, and express concerns (support, helpdesk resposibility etc) .
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They freak out easily, think that a broken off USB port on the back of a computer is easily fixed by going to radio-shack and cant understand why you refuse to give them administrator rights after they hosed the entire fleet of 45 classroom Pc's by loading a new program purchased without your input that fre
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Re:OSS is evil. (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.bigspring.k12.pa.us/news.php?action=view_article&article_id=2130 [k12.pa.us]
Re:OSS is evil. (Score:4, Insightful)
Even before seeing this statement from the school district, I believed this to be the case, due to most of the language being in correct English, apart from a few words and phrases with grammatical errors -- and those being the ones describing the teacher's assessment and actions.
If this being a fraud is indeed the case, I expect that the person who altered the detention letter gets expelled permanently, or, if not a student, charged with fraud and impersonation.
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Of course the letter was altered. It was redacted.
I am not even sure that this statement could be considered a claim
that the original story was a hoax. At best it could be a somewhat
carefully crafted CYA statement that is meant to be taken as a
claim that the original story was a hoax.
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This letter circulating on the internet is a fraud. No one at this
school has been given detention for insubordination related to the use
of an alternate web browser.
Be clear. Get to the point. Act like you're someone who teaches
other people how to communicate.
My high school rhetoric teacher would use this in his "introduction
to rhetoric in advertising".
Re:authority figure is a moron (Score:4, Insightful)
The kid wasn't ordered to shoot himself in the foot. He was told not to use an un-approved program.
Cut the hyperbole. Your example doesn't apply.
He wasn't being told to do something illegal. He wasn't be told to do something that could cause physical harm to someone. The teacher was in charge, and if he wouldn't stop he deserved what he got. The correct thing to do would be to stop and then talk to someone more powerful (like the principal) about getting that policy changed.
Re:authority figure is a moron (Score:4, Insightful)
it's in Illinois (Score:5, Funny)
According to Google Maps it's at the Art Institute of Chicago [google.com]
Idiocity (Score:3, Funny)
It's on the Potomac River, about 100 miles upstream from the Chesapeake Bay.
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He was being ordered to do something that might prevent him from finishing the assignment.
He was being ordered to do something that might cause it to appear that he has done something illegal.
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So it would then be ok in your book that a police officer tell you to stop driving a Audi and drive only Ford?
Well... only a fool would argue it out with the officer in situ! (While arguing with armed men is an invigorating sport it should be left up to experts... like lawyers...)
The correct approach is to stare in disbelief, say "Yes Sir" and proceed to document the hell out of the situation so you can then take your evidence to the police chief, the mayor, or whatever governmental authority the offic
Re:authority figure is authority (Score:3, Insightful)
First, welcome to the real world.
Second, let's turn your statement around:
Just do whatever you think is best, regardless of what the rules are, because you know what is right and everyone else that disagrees with you is stupid.
Is that the attitude you take at work, on the highways and in your home? We have rules for a reason. Your thinking that they are stupid does not mean it's
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The teacher is the authority. They said "close program X", the kid needed to close program X. The kid tried to prove their point, it didn't work, they need to do what the teacher said. You take the issue up after class with the teacher or the principal. The kid just wasted class time and acted inappropriately.
By the time I write this, we know it's a hoax. But that doesn't matter. If the story was true, the kid still acted wrong because they didn't obey the teacher at that moment. No one was in danger. It w
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Say the kid was stopped by the police for something he didn't do. He knows he didn't do it, the cop is convinced he did. The cop tells him that he is being detained, and goes to handcuff the kid. Should the kid fight the cop to prevent being handcuffed for suspicion of something he didn't do? No, and if he did, the Tazing, Macing, or ass kicking he would get as a result,
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You are not required by law to have a boss or a (particular) employer.
High School students are effectively prisoners. They are trapped there
as a matter of law and not allowed to leave or not attend.
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But that aside, if a student were given detention for using firefox that is an entirely different thing than being given detention for skirting the firewall policies of a school.
detention for disobedience (Score:3, Insightful)
It appears the infraction was probably closer to being for disobeying the teacher than for using Firefox. While it exposes an interesting deficiency in the general knowledge of educators about browser technology, it isn't necessarily their specialty. (We don't know if this was some proxy of a teacher who was unaware of options for browsers.)
Without any more information, this is merely a potential story... I wouldn't bother sending e-mails to the school. You may want to consider first:
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Odd are, not using Firefox would leave him open to all sorts of BS on the web. This is why many of us use it in our corporate lives despite corporate policies to the contrary. Fortunately, we don't have to worry about people with so much time on their hands (like teachers) that we have to worry about it.
He was just foolish for not pretending to be cowed.
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
THAT would have been a great way of showing good problem solving skills. Disobeying during class, just because he didn't see a valid reason for the instruction, only shows that he has no respect for authority, and no sense of how to properly deal with problems and difficult situations.
Yes, I know this whole story is a hoax, but had it been real, the detention would have certainly been valid, and the kid would have hopefully learned a very very important lesson about how to handle those types of situations not only in the rest of his academic life, but in his "real" life as well.
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:5, Insightful)
There is much reason to dislike authority, especially when authority is exercised when it shouldn't be, over trivial things. I'm more distrubed by people that blindly bow to authority of them than anyone who questions it. Its our duty as citizens of this nation to always question authority, and if we find said authority over-reaching, to ignore it or remove it.
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This isn't some stand against authority. It's not a principled anything. It's a kid who was given an instruction by someone entitled to do so, and who failed to comply. That's the end of it. It doesn't matter if it's arbitrary that Firefox isn't permitted on the machines. It's not the student's decision to make.
There is no injustice here. This "defy authority" crap is juvenile and pompously self-righteous, but that's par for the course for Slash
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I am surprised that even I fell for it.
1. Why would the teacher call it Firefox.exe? They where smart enough to figure out the name of the executable but don't know what firefox is?
2. Why put down that much detail for a two hour detention? "After being asked twice the student refused to follow the teachers instructions". Or the teacher could have just put down. "Student failed to follow school policy."
We where scammed and will now probably end up on snopes.com.
I find it funny that you th
Clueless... (Score:3, Insightful)
You really think that if you treat EVERY teenager with "respect" they will treat you with respect?
What is worse is that the "teacher" never did a thing wrong! This was a fraud, scam, lie, a work of fiction.
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That is how fascism is apologised.
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:5, Insightful)
Uh, no. I expect Authority to be... well, in charge. Imagine that. Should the students be allowed to install and run anything they want on school computers? Can you do that at YOUR job?
That is how fascism is apologised.
Blow it out your ass. Just because someone is in charge, in this case a teacher in charge of the classroom, doesn't mean that the school is fascist.
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
Until I hear the whole story, including this kid's background, I would not pass judgment on the teacher or the school. This sounds eerily like the stories some kids used to tell along the lines of "I got detention just for sneezing!" which on the surface sounds like some idiot power-crazed teacher wronging a well meaning student. Then you get the back story, he was acting up in class, and being asked to control himself several times, then lets out an over-exaggerated (even if it was a naturally reflexive) sneeze intended to get more attention, which is the last straw to the teacher who then writes him up. But his version of the story is "all I did was sneeze, and I got detention!" which one or two of his buddies will corroborate, and that is what spreads around.
Somehow, it was always the disruptive students with histories of disruption that somehow ended up the victim of such events. I have a feeling this kid circumvented IT policies probably not for the first time, installed Firefox, showed off his 1337 skills to the class, who then caused a distraction by saying "ooh cool" followed up by "can you show me how to do that?!", the teacher then found out, and then said "close that and use IE" to which the student did not comply, probably at least twice, while basking in his badassness and attention from his classmates, then the fed-up teacher finally gave him detention.
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
The Student was told twice to close Firefox and use IE.
He should have just fired up IE.
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I would love to require all teachers who want to use computers have to attend a class on computers in the classroom by someone like me who can explain the technology and what it can do (and not do) in the classroom.
However, I can equally assure you that the Teacher's Union is so high on itself that it wouldn't allow having a non-teacher teaching anything, let alone other teachers. There is this underlying current of elitism in many teachers.
Suffice it to say, I doubt that 85% of the teachers using computers in the classroom know anything more than "Click the Start Menu" type instruction, and if it isn't Microsoft ________ it isn't used. Period. Firefox isn't Microsoft, so it isn't used, and teachers don't know about it.
I don't know if I should blame the teachers or not. However, this teacher was running the classroom properly. The student had no right to change the instruction of the teacher (even if the student was correct). I know that managing a classroom of people is hard enough without having some rogue student thinking they know better. Even if Firefox is a better browser (it is), that doesn't give the student the right to vary from the instruction (use IE).
One last thing, the last thing I want on computers I manage is students downloading and installing whatever programs they think they want onto computers. If they want to use a program they need to request it through the proper channels. If I caught a student installing software on a computer without permission, I'd recommend they be expelled, regardless of what they were installing. Its not their computer.
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:5, Insightful)
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I work at a school district as a math teacher. I also have several years of experience in IT industry, and have a master's degree in CS. I can assure you that *most* of our IT people know little to nothing about anything that doesn't involve Microsoft or Novell. Which means I just deal with IT problems myself, because I can usually *not* count on getting any level of help beyond the simple scripted responses one gets when they e-mail technical support.
Why do I bring this up? Because this sword you swing cuts both ways: I'm *definitely* not one of the teachers you describe, and *you* definitely don't sound like one of the IT people I describe. I think it's fair to say that not many teachers *or* school district IT employees are what you and I would describe as "computer literate beyond the most basic level."
BTW, your comment about installing software leads me to believe that this student may have also violated an AUP that specifically prohibits the installation of programs other than those endoresed by the school district. Regardless of how one reads "installation," it's a safe bet that no one would argue that copying an
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ok, I know I'm dropping vital words to re-context your quote, but this is what's wrong with education today.
In a world where every fact is just a click on the InterTube(tm) away, we don't need kids who have memorized facts without meaning. We need to teach critical thinking and allow the kids to explore the world and find their own path. And sometimes that means they'll find something that the teacher isn't aware of. Th
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Would you recommend expulsion for a student that brought in some insect to mount on a slide to look at
Re:detention for disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
The whole 'punish first, investigate later' mentality of some teachers is the problem here. I have met many of the sort, and they are NOT among the better educators I know.
Your bullet list being what it is, I wonder whether you read the detention letter in the first place.
That is actually worse (Score:3, Insightful)
However it seemed to me that the kid was trying to rationally justify his decision, and the reason (as you indicate) that the detention was given as a punishment for questioning authority. That is a much more serious problem, especially if you believe one of the goals of primary school is to teach the pupi
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Well, naturally (Score:5, Insightful)
Some things never change (Score:5, Funny)
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To convert my Co
at least not opera (Score:4, Funny)
so what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Headline is a bit sensationalist.
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There really is no difference here between this and a student saying "No, I've decided I'm not going to get on the school bus to go to the field trip. I met this awesome guy in the bathroom of the mall and I'm going with him in his car instead".
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Except maybe why public schools are having such a hard time of it in the first place. A reasonable teacher might have said, "Interesting -- tell me more about it after class, but for now, stick with the other browser." This teacher, in contrast, played a power game and probably did more to undermine his authority in the classroom than reinforce it.
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Ignorant Teachers = Problems (Score:3, Insightful)
It isn't clear if this is a "computer class", in which case this is really bad because teachers should know more than the students in the area they are teaching in.
There is much more leeway for an English teacher to not know how to do integrations/derivations, for example. I don't know if this should extend to stuff the teachers use to teach the class, but it probably should. How can you use something effectively to teach if you don't know how it works?
Report it right (Score:2, Informative)
Evil is FireFox.exe (Score:2)
Student Given Detention For Disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
Boring.
Sidenote - Do the editors or the submitter start off the tags these days? This story came fresh with 4 tags...I thought it waited until "democracy" spoke. Wisdom of the masses et al.
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Oh no, someone got detention for being an ass (Score:5, Insightful)
If you are a jerk to a teacher, you get detention. I knew this when I was in school. When has it failed to be common knowledge?
I'd also like to know if the computer was the student's own or a school one. If it's a school computer, then all bets are off. If it's the student's, I would have said that I don't have IE.
Am I the only one surprised... (Score:4, Interesting)
I do wonder what version of windows was being used that the teacher noticed it called "firefox.exe" (and then subsequently changed it to "foxfire.exe" in the write-up).
Re:Am I the only one surprised... (Score:4, Interesting)
Chances are also good that the teacher never saw the screen of the kid in question.
And, if the kid installed Firefox, he could have also uninstalled it, deleting all history. Any kid savvy enough to install Firefox is also probably savvy enough to have a good reason to avoid admin lockdowns in IE that prevent one from deleting your browsing history.
Worse? If the program running really *was* Foxfire.exe, not Firefox. I see no one has entertained the possibility that the kid was running malware. Also simple enough to rename utorrent.exe to foxfire.exe.
However, all of the above aside, aren't kids *supposed* to be supervised while on the net?
Essentially by running Firefox, the kid could've gotten around blocked sites, bypassed proxies, and been browsing pr0n with no accountability.
And as a sysadmin having dealt with too many users having installed things on work computers they shouldn't have (did the kid install the Google desktop with FF?), I'm completely on the teacher's side.
Disobedience (Score:4, Insightful)
It would be stupid, but the teacher can set the parameters of how the kids perform the work.
If the kid wants to promote Firefox, good for him. I'm sure he's sharper than the teacher. But the proper way is to write something up that lists the cost/security benefits and give it to somebody official, not just install and run the software.
(I'm assuming this was the school's machine, not his own computer.)
How about the possibility.. (Score:2, Interesting)
If not, I'm sure the teacher could get in trouble for not making the kid use IE.
Not saying its right, just saying its a possibility.
What's New (Score:2, Funny)
What I hear: (Score:4, Insightful)
Teacher doesn't know all things about all things, makes request for perfectly reasonable action from child under his/her supervision. Child refuses on the grounds that child knows better than the teacher what the teacher was asking the child to do. Teacher gives child detention for disobedience.
Look, it turns out that teachers are not omniscient. Whether or not the child was correct that he was adhering to the spirit of the request, he was not adhering to the letter of the request, and refusing to do so is still worthwhile grounds for punishment.
Notably lacking from the report is what the kid's attitude was. If the kid copped an attitude, then nothing else would really matter. Also lacking is whether the student installed unauthorized software on the school's hardware. It could be the teacher was cutting the kid a break for a more serious offense by only giving him detention for failure to comply with the request.
There's many unknowns here, and giving the benefit of the doubt, it still breaks down to a student refusing to comply with a reasonable request, and that should be grounds for punishment.
.exe (Score:4, Insightful)
Any chance that I would be outraged by this, which was quite low to begin with, has faded.
School More Educational Than Originally Thought (Score:2, Insightful)
1. You probably know more than the authorities do.
2. The authorities don't like it when you challenge them.
3. The authorities have the authority to do things to you that you don't like.
4. The world doesn't care that it isn't fair.
Sounds like an excellent, low-cost (1 detention) life lesson that will serve this kid well.
Just more Slashdot sensationalism (Score:5, Insightful)
This is no different than a company telling an employee what software to use on the company's time and company's equipment, and then the employee gets punished for disobeying. If the kid wanted to use something else, he should have done it on his own time and his own computer. "Freedom" doesn't have a damned thing to do with it. There is no story, the teacher is not even the least bit ignorant, stupid, or in the wrong, and I have absolutely zero sympathy for the kid.
And the Slashdot editor(s) responsible for the posting of this sensationalized non-story should also get detention.
UPDATE! Cory Doctorow just reported... (Score:5, Informative)
It appears that the student wasn't JUST using "a better browser". He was browsing OTHER STUFF on the web. Too bad.
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And at least on my computer, my Firefox link refers to firefox.exe.
My advice to student: learn how to negotiate with authority better. If you hadn't gone in-your-face, you likely wouldn't be in this situation.
UPDATE: Statement from the school (Score:5, Informative)
********* is a hero (Score:3, Funny)
Congratulations, ********!
Also, the teacher, "P. Bealmear" is obviously a certain "S. Ballmer" doing a sabbatical in a high school. I see you, Steve!
If this is a hoax... (Score:3, Insightful)
Clueless teachers... (Score:3, Funny)
He was using keyboard shortcuts, instead of going through the slow laborious way the teacher had shown the class.
When I was a kid, I did stupid stuff like this too (Score:3, Insightful)
I should have gotten my ass beat for this.
Of course, at the time, I was really hard-headed. I'm not sure I would have learned my lesson if I had been punished. I was the sort of person who would get so caught up in being technically correct that I was blind to the concepts of being socially or procedurally or ethically incorrect.
I'm 34 now and in grad school. I took a computational linguistics class where we had to code an Earley parser, which is a dynamic programming approach to human language parsing. I was bothered by the fact that the grammar we were using was, in my opinion, half-assed. I think lexical grammars are a better (if still not very good) model of how humans process language syntactically. But I did not complain. I had a good time chewing the fat with the professor about it during office hours, because it's interesting, but there was no need for me to "complain" about it in any context. After all these years, I'm able to pull my head out of my ass and recognize that we often "simplify" things or make arbitrary choices as a foil for learning something more general. We were not there to learn about lexical grammars. We're there to learn to write parsers, and an Earley parser can be adapted to lexical grammars should I feel inclined to do so. Big picture here!
Let's hope this kid doesn't take as long as I did to learn to see the bigger picture, recognize that life involves judicious compromises, learn to function socially, and not be so self-centered that he makes things harder on other people just for the sake of being "right". (And by "right", I mean that he may have logical support for his hypothesis, but it's technical and the topic can still be debated. I'm NOT talking about moral "right" here, which is a whole other subject matter.)
Bureaucratic stupidity (Score:3, Interesting)
I find it funny that while in theory schools exist to help students learn about the nature and the society they are growing in, detention [wikipedia.org] punishes students by making them stay in the school more, therefore implying that school is probably a bad place to spend one's time.
Here we have a great example of a brainless bureaucracy punishing one of its subjects for being smarter than the crowd. This student may have done something wrong (installed software on someone else's PC without permission) BUT I hope we all can see here that this student was smart enough to understand the deficiencies of mainstream browser(s), find a better browser, and install it. One would assume that society and schools should encourage children to take initiative, fix mistakes when they see them, and take decisions that make their life and the life of everyone better. This student discovered that the big bureaucracy they were subjected in was using a stone age browser, and he took a bold decision to fix the problem immediately without bureaucratic inefficiencies (the only problem being that he should have asked for some kind of permission first because the computer was probably not their property, but we can overlook this because we can't expect from young kids to observe complex society rules, so we should have used this as an opportunity to teach them, but detention really doesn't help a pupil to understand the concept of property at all, it only makes them feel alienated from society and think that they live in a dangerous place).
This is exactly how self-organised societies can function (by the way my academic research is related to self-organised non-hierarchical business companies and swarm intelligence algorithms), self-organisation is a good thing, and yet big bureaucracies like this school kill every spark of self-organisation at first opportunity. One has to wonder whether discipline and hierarchical control has become the new religion and it causes us to live in greatly inefficient bureaucratic McDonaldised iron cages (ironically McDonaldisation implies efficiency but in reality the associated bureaucracies create inefficiencies in many ways). Really, how much time have you lost trying to persuade your boss (if you work in a traditionally hierarchical company, which I thankfully managed to avoid as an independent) that your next project should be done in a serious language such as Python or Lisp instead of .NET? Or that Firefox and Thunderbird should be allowed on your work PC?
Also, why should schools be designed with teachers being superior to students? All humans are students, after all, and some students may know more in one subject than the teachers. For example, in this case probably the teacher knew more in some academic subject (let's say history) and the kid knew more in technology. I see this as a good opportunity to learn: The teacher could invite the student to speak publicly to the class about why this mysterious program "firefox.exe" is a better browser, and they could ask the student to write an academic essay analysing their position on browser choice and argue for or against allowing students to install whatever they want on school PCs. The teacher could offer guidance to the student, explaining that while some students may know better and install good software (firefox), other students may put the school in risk by installing malicious software (viruses), and for this reason some sort of efficient supervision needs to exist. The student then would be required to search online for examples of arguments supporting each view and come up with their own position on the matter, etc... All this could be a great academic exercise, and it would also offer the teacher the opportunity to *learn* from the student, specifically to learn why "firefox.exe" is a better browser. This is what I mean that everyone is a student... Even PhD holders and well-known researchers are nothing more than students, they d
This has happened to me (Score:5, Interesting)
Yes, incredible as it may seem, this has happened to me.
Let me repeat that:
this HAS happened to me.
Schools (K-12 at least) seem to be under the impression that students should be locked down hard from the Internet - a policy I may not agree with, but see good reason for. However, this attitude has gotten me into trouble a number of times.
For instance, one day we had some assignment to look something or another up on the Internet. Since I had my laptop there, I decided that I would use it instead (it has a Dvorak keyboard, which I like better than QWERTY). I pulled out my laptop, hooked it up to an unused RJ45 jack with a cat5e cable that I had brought from home, and did the assignment. At the end of the hour, as we were all packing up, our "sysadmin" (I use the term loosely, as I could do a better job than him while in a coma) walked in and saw my laptop. He walked over, asked my name, and then asked me to try to access a blocked webpage (myspace, if I remember correctly). I typed in the URL, and lo and behold the site came up. The sysadmin looked puzzled, thanked me, and walked away, polite as can be. The next day I found my computer account suspended and a fresh new detention slip waiting for me for circumventing school security, even though I had never done so until he asked me to visit the blocked website.
The first detention was something that I could see a faint glimmer of rationality in, but the second one I got took the cake. This one occurred a few days later, while my computer account was still suspended. I was in the lab again, using the teacher's account (we needed the internet again, and my laptop had suddenly and mysteriously been banned from connecting to the internet at school) when the sysadmin walked into the room and saw me on the computer. He talked to me teacher for a while, and I could see her trying to explain why I needed her account and his insistence that I was breaking every school rule known. Eventually, he walked over to me and asked whose account I was on, etc. and told me to get off immediately. I complied, but before he walked away I asked why my laptop could no longer connect to the network. I asked as polite as you please, no anger in my voice, no threatening actions, etc. He simply looked at me with an odd expression on his face for a few seconds and then walked off. Next day I get a slip with not one, not two, not three, but FOUR detentions for "using another person's account" and for "insubordination."
All this hyperbole brings me back to my initial point: at a different point in time, I got a detention for using a version of portable firefox from my thumbdrive.
a better response (Score:4, Funny)
If you were planning on calling the school, then WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU? What possible purpose does that serve? There is no legitimate train of thought that should lead to the decision "I SHOULD CALL THEM."
Even if it were not a hoax, detention is appropria (Score:3, Interesting)
This isnt about politics of OSS, but rather simple control of hardware on their network and making sure it is consistently running.
Guess what can happen in the real world if you do that type of stuff? anywhere from nothing to finding a new job.
Next on Slashdot... (Score:3, Funny)
Yes, everyone call! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Here's his teacher (Score:4, Insightful)
Absolutely pathetic.
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"harrass"[sic]
That is what we call in the industry a 'mistake'. This you would know from the fact that you typed 'nowhere' as two words. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Indeed I even went to the length of typing *stands well back* in order to distance myself from what people wish to do with the information I provided.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night. Considering that the article is in fact a hoax [k12.pa.us], I hope you're prepared to accept the consequences of doing so.
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
What you did (despite the lame attempt to cast aside responsibility) is to pretend that you aren't aware of 1) the large percentage of people that will skim across this forum and NOT realize that this