Wired's 2007 Vaporware Awards 195
Braedley sends word that Wired's annual vaporware list is up, and a number of products this community has discussed made the cut. The top spot, the position of most dishonor, was almost a foregone conclusion. "Another December, another list, another crowning achievement by the Emperor of the Ethereal, the Head Honcho of Hype, Duke Nukem Forever. We were going to disqualify him out of pity, but Sir Duke is back for 2007 thanks to a few leaked screenshots and an overwhelming number of votes. DNF creators 3D Realms even chose this week to debut a well-publicized video trailer for Duke's long-awaited return. Alas, a trailer is not a game, so — long live the king!"
Duke Nukem Forever is in beta (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Duke Nukem Forever is in beta (Score:5, Funny)
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Is that a DNF neckerchief he wears in his back left pocket?
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Good marketing ploy? (Score:5, Insightful)
2)Make big fuss over sequal
3)Don't deliver, but make big deal for next decade
4)Once DNF is a household name, deliver
5)Profit!!
Seriously though, 3D Realms has found a good formula to get its namebrand out. I mean, what gamer hasn't heard of Duke Nukem Forever? It's the most famous non-game in gaming history. Weight for weight, DNF has more name recognition than even probably Halo. It almost behooves them to release it. It will turn every gamer's head 180 with "WTF?! DNF is finally been released!". Even if the game is say 7/10, you can guerentee a lot of copies would be sold just out of name recognition alone.
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Unless they fuck up something fundamental, you cannot spend a decade working on something to have something so-so at the end.
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Unless they fuck up something fundamental, you cannot spend a decade working on something to have something so-so at the end.
Absolutely you can. It's called feature creep, and if left unchecked, not only do you end up with a pig in a dress. You end up with a pig in a bullet-proof dress with wader boots on each hoof, only the hooves have been replaced with knives, so you had to install a sheathing mechanism for the hoof-knives, which requires a motor buried in the pig's ass.
Then when you deliver the pig to the farmer he's like, "How the hell am I supposed to make bacon out of this pig if it's able to fight back with its hoof-knives, and I can't shoot it because of the bullet-proof dress? And the motor is leaking grease all over the ham meat!"
Now, would you buy that pig?
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It's like taking a brand new car model and calling it "Yugo". Sure, everyone's heard of Yugo, but it's at the butt of all automotive related jokes.
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Wrong direction... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Wrong direction... (Score:5, Insightful)
Truly philosophical.
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Re:Wrong direction... (Score:5, Insightful)
The project was only announced in 2005! How can they have a "usual fog of hype"? Isn't two years to bring something like that to fruition pretty damn reasonable?
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It also saw Team Fortress 2 released. A game that has been in development much longer than Daikatana was, has seen complete rewrites, and would be the vaporware joke everyone knew about if it wasn't for DNF.
Not only did the game come out, it's fantastic. It keeps the great feel, has beautiful graphics that are nicely stylized, and works very well. It could use more maps (they're working on it), and the classes do feel very different as part of the balancing, but it's a great game overall.
Every once in a w
On Purpose? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Trust me - it's not something you want to see, or accidentally glance at.
Fortunately, not much longer to go.
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Time to rename the product (Score:2)
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Diablo III (Score:5, Informative)
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Diablo III? (Score:5, Insightful)
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GNR? (Score:5, Funny)
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I'd love to hear the album if it ever sees the light of day. It seems Axl has some bizarre legal issues keeping him from putting it out there.
Chinese Democracy (Score:4, Funny)
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Meh. I heard some of the "leaked" mp3 tracks, and....they pretty much thoroughly sucked.
Comment removed (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:DNF of course (Score:4, Informative)
So its back.
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I've been waiting a while for DNF, sure. I've been waiting my whole life for my flying car.
How about ubiquitous mobile Internet access? They're awarding 802.11n but not 802.16 WiMax? 802.16's been around since 1999 and had an approved standard in 2001. 802.11 already works, and most of the draft stuff for 802.11n already works together. 802.11a, b, and g are commonplace. The working group is only a couple of years older, yet we've bee
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Show me a cell phone that doesn't have internet.
> DVD Audio? SuperAudio CD?
They shipped fine. Market failures are not vapor.
> FTTH?
FIOS ring a bell?
> LEO satellite phone and internet service?
A small fraction of Iridium might indeed become vapor as this spectacular market failure is de-orbited.
I didn't see Vista onthe list (Score:5, Funny)
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Windows Future Storage... it's stored in the future, so you'll have it when you need it...?
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Perpetual Motion Machines (Score:2)
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If it had substance, surely it wouldn't be vapour...
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The criteria for a project being vaporware is that it's highly hyped and way past any reasonable and/or announced release date. The fact that the project ignores the laws of physics is neither here nor there.
Did nobody vote for Last Dangerous Visions? Harlan must be crushed!
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I completely agree that a perpetual motion machine is vaporware. My car can run for miles and miles on vapors and I think this would be an excellent technology to pursue for a perpetual motion machine. Maybe the exhaust vapors can be pumped back into the fuel tank? Someone should really get on that!
I for one (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I for one (Score:5, Insightful)
I really don't like the old system after using the new one but I can't stand the 50 message limit. They should make the "50" be adjustable to include 50,100,200,300,400,500,unlimited. While there was certainly problems with their Javascript timing out for big threads it wasn't too bad most of the time. They certainly still have work to do to optimize the code but the adjustable number of messages feature would certainly help in the mean time.
Hopefully the Taco will see this message and make the adjustment
Rule of Charlatans (Score:2)
It would be helpful if everyone operated under the rule of do not even tell me about it unless I can have it drop shipped today. Take away their audience, and these charlatans would go away quickly.
I said a long time ago that the guy making spore should work on his game instead of attending conf
Re:Rule of Charlatans (Score:5, Insightful)
For better or worse, you can't just secretly develop a product in a basement somewhere and then suddenly have them lining store shelves the next day. One company that tries really hard to do that is Apple, and they're constantly getting bashed from many directions due to their obsession with secrecy.
While I'm not making any judgements about you personally, the reality is that consumers as a whole seem to enjoy the hype just as much as the marketing departments do. There are piles of websites dedicated to finding and sharing advanced info, future product hints, and scheming up potential company directions. Any time there's a demand for such information, someone's going to provide it. The fact that that creates an opportunity for cranks and charlatans to scam a few bucks is just a side effect.
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Apple has more cash on hand than all but a few companies in the world and a loyal if difficult fan base. I would submit this means you can run a business responsibly in this fashion. If consumers want, they can create their own rumors for entertainment.
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One person/company being successful doing one thing does not mean that all people/companies would work best operating the same way.
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Good news....Bad News.... (Score:4, Funny)
Good News: Duke Nukem Forever is finally released and, surprisingly, to overwhelming critical acclaim for innovative game design.
Bad News: It subsequently gets an "Adults Only" rating and is immediately pulled from the shelves until it can be re-worked into a "Mature" rating.
Seriously, I think 3D Realms should just admit defeat.....but I'm still holding out for "Redneck Rampage" forever.
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Long live the king! (Score:2)
Horrible Article (Score:4, Interesting)
The article was also way off on how the Spore multiplayer will supposedly work. You're not going to be able to directly compete with other people's races. The computer-controlled races will be based off a global database of races that other players upload their race information to. This is barely more "multiplayer" then a global high score list.
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WM6 on the Blackjack (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.samsungmobile.com/promotion/i600/index.jsp [samsungmobile.com]
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Slingcatcher! (Score:2)
--Ars Technica [arstechnica.com]
I voted at Wired for Slingcatcher, but I guess I'm the only one.
http://us.slingmedia.com/object/io_1168286861787.html [slingmedia.com] -- the orig
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It was to be hooked up to any TV or monitor, and would allow reception of TV from your base station to anywhere (with enough bandwidth). The base stations were made, and can be used with computers to receive the signal (much like the slingbox), but the promised BOX-TV never made it.
I pre-ordered one when buying my base station in 2006, but the release was pushed back, twice, and eventually I got an email last summer s
Chevy Volt? (Score:2)
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Misread (Score:3, Funny)
Somehow (I only caught the last half, and am in the middle of a minor Civ4 obsession) I read that as Ethelred the Unready [wikipedia.org]. Appropriate enough, though.
Duke's photo (Score:2, Funny)
picture here [wired.com]
We don't BELIEVE... (Score:3, Funny)
Do they *really* want my opinion? (Score:2)
Then there is that idiotic Your Opinion Matters popup that keeps coming up. I'm not sure they want to know what I think!
...laura
Duke Nukem Explained (Score:4, Funny)
Allow me to set the record straight.
3D Realms is haunted by the ghosts of gamers who died of outrage when they found that Duke Nukem 3-D choked with more than 5 players in multi-player mode and, to appease the spirits, the workers at 3D Realms must continually build Duke Nukem Forever 24 hours a day, 7 days a week,
So far they have kept the spirits at bay.
Last Line is wrong... (Score:4, Informative)
C'mon! How could they do a homage and NOT have that line?
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When I saw DNF in your post and in a glance-through of the article, I thought you/they were using DNF to denote vaporware status to one of the products until I realized that you (and probably they) were specifically referring to Duke.
This makes me think that they never planned to finish DNF; this is all just a big joke, right from day one.
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just sayin' is all
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Kidding aside, everything from that trailer is using the in-game engine. Everything. zero CGI. I don't think people realize this.
You new fruity console lovers can keep your Master Chef and his queer-eye costume. His food sucks and the only thing he has is a decent story-line. I'll take Duke, a shotgun, pipe bombs and strippers any day of the week.
Jetpack with pipebombs - the absolute best way to make your opponents squeal like babies.
Run child, run for your life.....
He's coming in '08 to kick some ass and chew some bubblegum, and I took his last piece of gum.
Regards,
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...forgetting that Duke Nukem 3D was ported the the Playstation, N64, and Saturn. (Not to mention the Gameboy Advance.)
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Why, just the other day, they had a funny and well-written piece on alternative santas: http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/commentary/alttext/2007/12/alttext_1219 [wired.com]
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Just as a summary: Fuck politics. Keep that shit outta my nerd paradise. /rant
There was this thing called a "Housing Bubble", and millions of nerds' parents are now underwater on their houses. That means that the nerds are going to have to move out of the basement to the street when the house gets foreclosed on. Unless your parents' house is paid for in full, this includes you. :) (lol, jk)
Teh Bubble will resolve itself with a recession. Seeing as how a politician (Bill Clinton) sent much of our technology manufacturing capability to China, I wonder what the technology-obsessed will
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Availbility (Score:2)
For the same reason that Vista weren't mentioned in last year's list (even if it wasn't still sold before 2008, it was made available to some partners in the last days of 2007), Neo1973 can't qualify for the list simply because there are already some older version available for buying, as are some early version of linux system to run on it (although OpenMoko's phone functions aren't stable, and Qtopia is having a co