IT Workers Are Getting Fatter 366
buzzardsbay writes "While technologies such as virtualization, multi-threading, and blade servers have made the data center leaner, those who work there are getting... well... not leaner. According to a new study by CareerBuilder.com, 34 percent of IT workers say they have gained more than ten pounds in their current jobs. And 16 percent say they've gained at least twice that. The culprits seem to be the stressful-yet-sedentary nature of tech work coupled with our famously poor eating habits. According to the survey, some 41 percent of IT workers eat out for lunch twice or more per week, making portion and calorie control difficult. Eleven percent buy their lunch out of a vending machine at least once a week."
Not just IT workers (Score:5, Funny)
I guess if you're a sysadmin for the Internal Revenue Service then you're really screwed.
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Re:Not just IT workers (Score:5, Informative)
This is supposed to be news for nerds. Come on. What next? Will we start ignoring naked petrified Natalee Portman?
On to serious matters. This report is really just fudging numbers. Government and financial workers gain more weight at the current job because, surprise. They have been there longer.
IT geeks count the time we stay at a job we like in months. Government and financial workers typically start a job straight out of collage and stay there ontil middle age turns them into blimps.
So basicaly it's "Did you gain more than 10 lbs between age 21 and age 42?" vs "have you gained more than 10 lbs so far this year?"
iMac vs Sunfire V240. Not a fair (or reasonable) comparison.
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This is supposed to be news for nerds. Come on. What next? Will we start ignoring naked petrified Natalee Portman?
In Soviet Russia, naked petrified Natalie Portman ignores YOU!
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There, happy?
Re:Not just IT workers (Score:4, Funny)
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"No, i think my vacation and sick days *are* going to carry over. Or do I need to have my former boss, aka inmate #4458721, explain what the phrase 'clickety click' means?"
No it's is IT workers because (Score:4, Funny)
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Eating out (Score:2)
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Re:Eating out (Score:5, Funny)
Anger in the workplace has done nothing but good for my health. Sitting there shaking in rage at the Pointy-hairs burns calories like no other! The same can be said about the ten minutes of heart pounding after I am 'surprise' visited by my uppers.
Sometimes I wish that I had a bowflex down here just to toy with them. Make them think that I actually DO have time to work out. Even better would be the questions as to how it GOT there in the first place. Piece by piece, just like I learned from MASH.
Oh, and working out. Moving around. Sex. Eat whatever you want, just move about some more to compensate!
Re:Eating out (Score:5, Interesting)
The caveat is that for me, high stress can be the motivation I need for an extra-hard workout at the gym or an extra 2 miles on my run that day. Recently, after a manager whose job title could officially be "chief roadblock" sent me an email (CC'ing my boss) accusing me of being a "PowerPoint Engineer" (because he couldn't understand my UML diagram since he has no background in software), I hit the gym for 2 hours and took a 15 mile run in the same day. I definitely felt a lot better after that.
Re:Eating out (Score:4)
I'm Partially agreed on the stress making me want to exercise more. With me, it depends on the kind of stress.
If it's something that makes me angry, I can work it off. If it's something that makes me depressed, working out doesn't seem to help me.
You work out and run. Me, I work out as well, but instead of running, I have the habit of taking a bokku-to out and using it until it snaps or spending an hour or so against a heavy bag.
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There's nothing wrong with fast food. In fact it can be pretty economical -- you DON'T have to order the triple patty meal with the large fries and the giant drink. One to two items from the dollar or less menu and a water, it's all you really need.
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Re:Eating out (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Eating out (Score:5, Funny)
Yup. After reading a leaflet about "Five a Day" [dh.gov.uk] I started eating a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables and drinking lots of water at work, instead of chocolate and crisps and fizzy drinks, and I gained a lot of weight. I mean, I felt great - I had loads of energy, never felt hungry, and I looked and felt generally healthier - great. Shame about gaining about gaining so much weight.
Of course it wasn't until a couple of weeks later while we were out shopping that my girlfriend pointed out that it's meant to be five *portions* of fresh fruit and vegetables per day, not five *kilos*...
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Actually, it's not therapueutic.
Pop psychology has adopted a model of the human mind from the early days of the industrial revolution: the steam engine. You correct a dangerously overheated boiler by "letting off steam". You can't fix an overstressed mind that way.
The human mind is something for which we don't have an exact mechanical analog yet, but it certainly doesn't work such a simplistic way. True, you feel better after "lett
Only PC is getting fat... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Only PC is getting fat... (Score:5, Funny)
Get out more (Score:5, Interesting)
Me, I use the stairs to get to floor 5. I have leg weights. I was in a martial arts class but a shift change took that off my plate, damn. Need to get back to the dojo. Diet? Exercise? Screw that, my entertainment and normal transportation (that is, without elevators) keeps me from being a fat ass.
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So that's why everyone has 64Gb workstation?
Re:Get out more (Score:5, Insightful)
When I've started my new job I started hitting the gym. At first it was mostly an hour of cardio, perhaps something like every day for about 3 months. Began moving up to more intensive exercises gradually, starting with the elliptical, then moving to exercise bike, then eventually hitting up the treadmill. Nothing too intensive, just consistent, even if it's a weaksauce 'performance' compared to the other members. (I've eventually worked up to roughly 5 miles in an hour)
I try not to hit the gym during peak hours - that's when all the muscleheads and casual gym attendees show up, trying to out-do each other. Sometimes I get caught up in the act too - cranking out heavier weights than the next guy out of sheer ego - but that's just a waste of time and excessive strain on the body without much improvement. Dumb dumb dumb. I've noticed the biggest improvements when doing consistent exercises with very small, gradual increments. So it's best to keep your ego in check and just keep on trucking at a casual pace. You don't want to damage something that may potentially put you out of commission out for a few weeks at the gym.
It's been about 6 months now and I've been bored strictly with the cardio, so I've been lifting weights more - again gradually increasing intensity. When I don't feel like hitting the weights, I just get back on the treadmill, usually around once a week. The rest of the week is on the weights rotating different muscle groups each day. Nothing too serious, just doing various exercises to keep my heartbeat up.
I started at 210lbs, now I'm at 176lbs. Not too shabby. I've been trying to drop a pound a week, but now that I'm lifting heavier weights I've been focusing less on the scale.
Now it's become such a routine that even if I don't feel like going to the gym, I just go in to get my heartbeat up.
I think the biggest factor to the weight loss itself wasn't the gym, but more the portion control. I try not to eat these humongous single meals anymore. What I do notice is that I have less cravings for specific fatty foods, I have no idea how that change has come about - I still love to eat burgers and fries, I just don't crave it like I used to. Maybe the cardio affected my physiology, *shrug* who knows. Too bad it hasn't affected by nicotine cravings :(
What's pretty funny was when I started seriously playing World of Warcraft as soon as I get home from work. I would log on immediately when I got home, play straight thru the night, then go to bed around 2am because I was tired from raiding, skipping dinner entirely. I think I lost the majority of my weight during that span of time - talk about ironic.
This became such a regular occurrence that I've noticed I was less hungry in the morning when I went to bed hungry, and whenever I went to bed on a full stomach I would wake up starving looking to eat anything - and eating a little too much in the morning. Because of that I've tried to make it a habit not to eat so much at night. Maybe that helps? Probably not :-) *shrug*
World of Warcraft Diet (Score:3, Insightful)
This won't work for everyone, especially if you like to bring cheetos to your computer, but for me it's been a very pleasant surprise.
I've also found that Rock Band drums give you a pretty decent workout, the Wii sport
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Maybe there's some kind of insurance kickback for the corporations which implement those little bullshit "health" programs.
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Even more? (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:Even more? (Score:5, Insightful)
Getting more massive would indeed make that gravity field more intense.
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Not me, I'm made of photons.
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Meeting with food... (Score:5, Interesting)
Where I work there is always a meeting with food somewhere in the building, and they always order more than they can eat. So of course as soon as the meeting is over, everyone goes and gets the leftovers. Next thing you know, you've had two lunches, two cookies and a bunch of soda you don't need.
It was the same at the last two companies I worked for and I asked a few friends and it's the same where they work.
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So of course as soon as the meeting is over, everyone goes and gets the leftovers. Next thing you know, you've had two lunches, two cookies and a bunch of soda you don't need.
That means your stomach is about 1 lunch, one cookie, and a bunch of sodas too big.
If you're willing to put up with a period of gnawing hunger pains, your stomach will shrink to match the volume of food you should be eating.
The most important thing is not to diet.
The path to success is through progressive and sustainable changes in your eating habits.
I see the difference at all-you-can-eat wing night.
I eat about half the wings I used to.
If you work from home (Score:5, Insightful)
I have built in weights (Score:5, Funny)
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This is where I have to add a word of caution. Be careful with the ankle weights. Overdoing it can result in damage to various parts of your legs.
Be kind to your knees. You only have one set of them. Be sensible and work your way up.
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Yeah, but the only kind of friends you're likely to meet are the ones who like walking around a museum or city park... and I hate those people!
I've lost 40 pounds (Score:2)
Actually (Score:4, Funny)
This was the contents of his fridge and pantry:
Beer
Hot dogs
Chocolate Syrup (three of these)
Two cartons of ice cream (only two, yet three chocolate syrup bottles)
Three Jack's frozen pizzas
Four containers of butter, and one box of sticked butter.
Bucket of fried chicken
Two pizzas from some pizza joint
The Pantry:
No bread just hot dog buns
Three containers of peanut butter
At least a pound to a pound a half of sugar
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More than just IT (Score:5, Insightful)
Never attribute this kind of stuff to your job unless other factors can be ruled out also. Lots of people without access to free snacks/pop put on weight starting about the age 25. For many, getting married seems to add a the pouch and love handles. Also, about age 25, you aren't as hyper as you were when you were 21, and so you are less anxious to run around. When I was 18-25, and in college, I ate like crap, out of vending machines and a quick pizza for lunch. Lots of un-diet sodas. I was still skinny as a rail. When I turned 25 and got married, then I started putting on weight.
Even with eating better, it still doesn't help because my activity levels are far lower than they were when I was younger.
IT and lights out management have nothing to do with it.
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No kidding! The marriage certificate should come with a warning: "tying the knot may lead to a 15% increase in weight."
-Grey [silverclipboard.com]
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now that being said...
Before: 6 foot 2, 100 pounds even... competative ballroom dancer... 19 years old
now: 6 foot 2, 220 pounds... IT worker, 2-year old at home.
Suckers (Score:4, Insightful)
Given the other studies I see about less computer graduates, that would indicate an aging workforce.
So we have people who have been sitting in uncomfortable office chairs for 20 years writing code, eating Cheez Its or Doritos or jujubees or whatever and drinking copious quantities of caffeinated and often sugary beverages. Is it really surprising that on average they might have a couple extra pounds?
How many professions don't get fatter? (Score:5, Insightful)
"But, hey, no matter the culprits, IT workers can take heart in another CareerBuilder finding: They are less chubby than financial services and government workers. Fifty-three percent of financial workers said they have gained weight at their current jobs, while the number for government workers is 52 percent."
I actually draw a different conclusion from the article, the fact that 34% of IT professionals have gained 10+ lbs in their current profession means they've been in that profession a few years (generally you don't gain that weight overnight).
I don't know about financial workers but this hypothesis is backed up by the growth of government workers who don't change jobs a lot.
I telecommute and yes I'm guilty .... (Score:2)
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And some sort-term advise for the grandparent: Hard liquor. Fewer calories. Less filling. Better drunk/dollar value, particularly if you don't make "tastes great" a requirement.
Solo (Score:2, Funny)
PS, Where's my money Solo?
One very workable solution... (Score:5, Funny)
"Hey, Joe, you're covered in sweat!"
"Yeah, I know, those KDE apps take ages to compile!"
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And this means? (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe 34% of all people gain 10 pounds anyway regardless of their profession or even whether or not they're employed. A lot of people gain weight over time irrespective. What phenomena is being described here?
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If you want to lose some fat (Score:3, Interesting)
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=226411&cid=18343433 [slashdot.org]
steveha
Re:If you want to lose some fat (Score:4, Insightful)
Those style websites like that one or this [fireyourpoolguy.com] with the large screaming letters, so-called testimonials, and long, long single page have all the class and allure of a used car salesman in a plaid blazer.
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Avoiding simple carbs and fats (except for a small amount of good fats) is the key. Among other things, this means no fries, no sodas, no burgers, no candy bars. Not regularly, anyway.
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Well, it was just a terse summary of an entire book. If you actually read the book I think you will find more emphasis on that stuff.
steveha
The REAL Source Of The Extra 10 lbs..... (Score:2)
-I think that extra 10 lbs is upper-arm muscle, thanks to a few hi-def pix of Capt. Janeway and Seven-Of-Nine.
One of those two examples I could understand, but (Score:3, Funny)
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Real Reason (Score:2)
The culprits seem to be the stressful-yet-sedentary nature of tech work coupled with our famously poor eating habits.
I'm a lazy bastard who'd rather sleep in in the mornings and chill out at the end of the day than go to the gym.
Stressful-yet-sedentary: I could exercise in the other sixteen hours of the day. I just don't.
Poor eating habits: I eat out a lot but they have this cool thing called "salad" now. It's like a complex collection of cellulose based food stuffs. If you have them put the CH3(CH2)nCOOH (they call this "dressing") on the side and only add enough for taste, it's surprisingly good for you.
Yep, at the end
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come to think of it you probably don't even have a job do you? probably some wet behind the ears high school kid attempting to have a conversation with the adults ?
Been there done that (Score:2)
Start running or cycling (no, walking isn't enough.)
Most of all, learn about proper nutrition. Being in shape is 60% nutrition, 30% exercise, and 10% genetics.
There's many good sources of information. Reading Men's Health may be a good start, or find some good books on the subject.
Schedule a couple of hours per week. It's not hard.
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Speaking as someone who walked off 50 lbs in four months, walking is enough if you do A LOT of it, i.e. 3-4 hrs 7 days/week, you have to go by distance over time walked, i.e. you count distance, not time. All it takes is some balls and commitment and you can makeup for it on days off and what have you, one of people's biggest reason for not losing wait is making excuses and having become accustomed to bad habits.
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With more intense exercise an hour per day is enough.
I started with an hour of running during lunch break.
cube size (Score:3, Funny)
In other news... (Score:2)
They're right! (Score:2)
I am definitely getting fatter.
Mind you, I find it hard to read Slashdot while I am out pounding the sidewalks getting exercise. So that leaves the other major thinning moment: when I am sitting on the toilet.
But I don't take my laptop into the toilet room (no, it's NOT a bathroom, it has no bath; the bath is in the room next door, oddly enough that room is called the bathroom).
So yes, whenever I am reading an article about IT workers getting fatter,
I'm under doctor's order to lose weight (Score:2)
I take Zyprexa for my mental illness [geometricvisions.com]. It makes most people gain weight, because it eliminates the feeling that you've had enough to eat.
Well I've sworn off the ice cream, and am now bicycling to work and elsewhere around Silicon Valley.
I've only just started this, so I don't have measurable progress yet, but I'm very determined.
Several times I've put on a lot of weight then managed to lose it. Usually cycling is a big part of that.
Sorry most of you are lazy. (Score:2)
Even though we're in an era of people being more health conscious, most people don't apply it.
Cut out the crap food and just work out. It's that simple. I've been skinny most my life. Actually being a skinny geek is what motivated me to work out because I had a negative body image. I stopped working out though when I turned 30, and coupled with a poor fast food diet, I went from 190 lbs to 240. All fat. One day I realized, this isn't me, and got back to my o
Obligatory South Park reference (Score:2)
Food Pyramid (Score:2)
Just a few days ago Haward released a food pyramid that is not driven by big business:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid/index.html [harvard.edu]
*That* is how the food pyramid should have looked like from the start. More information here [harvard.edu].
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except harvard of course, because universities never do anything out of self interest right...
i love how they just throw that stuff about big business out there then don't back it up one bit.
numbers say otherwise? (Score:4, Insightful)
lucky me (Score:2)
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I use this simple trick (Score:4, Interesting)
However, I've observed that most of my geek friends - including my once slender geek buddy now turned fatso - have gained the habit of eating far beyond their appetite. And my fat buddy does a lot of exercise.
Newsflash: Exercise doesn't help you lose weight very effectively. There is a far more effective solution: Eat less.
Whenever I notice my jeans pinching and my belly gaining (my thighs have gained to much allready - I ought to get them a tad thinner aswell) and my belt going up a notch I simply eat less. It's become something of a bi-monthly rythym of eating normal or what my spoose has trained me to consider normal (read: eating to much!) and barking at her or simply refusing to eat when she heaps to much on to my plate despite me telling her that I'll help myself.
Eating over your appetite has become a social thing, and if you refuse to do it you get queer looks from all sides. Especially if you're still what other *call* slender. Well, guess why I *am* slender, fat-ass!? It's not because I'm doing Aikido twice a week. I simply restrain myself from stuffing my face. Eating slowly helps btw. Eating to fast is one of my prime cause for overweight tendency.
Bottom line: If you can't come up with anthing better, switch to scheduled Broughth and Ramen for 10 weeks and you'll be suprised how well your body starts eating away at those extra pounds stored all over the place. And train yourself to eat less, even if it takes a few ups and downs along the JoJo String. You'll eventually reach your ideal weight if you apply reason to your image in the mirror.
My 2 cents.
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I used to weigh about 250 pounds. My current weight is about 180. The majority of the weight I lost was when I was an omnivore. It wasn't a wholesale change in my diet, it was a vast increase in exercise.
I have gained about 10 pounds since I left my last job, but that's because my old job was a 25 minute bike ride away and I'd walk around at lunch.
My new job is a 10 minute drive (I take the kids to daycare now) and I don't really have anywhere to walk to.
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I lost some weight when I became vegan (going from omni), but I later went back to my normal weight.
I attribute to not knowing what junk food was vegan in the beginning, and later learning. :D
For losing weight, the Hacker's Diet (google it) and exercise is working for me, but I'm never more than 20-25 lbs above my ideal body weight. It is rare I stray outside of a "healthy" BMI -- but I do tend to keep a little fat around my middle even if the BMI says I'm healthy.
Re:I gained weight because I quit smoking... (Score:5, Interesting)
This is actually probably a major part of IT weight gain. I was going to the gym and working out (actually working out, not standing around watching everyone else work out) for a long time, and my weight and my pants size just kept creeping up. Went to the doctor because I figured something must be wrong, and long story short, the problem was getting home at 8-9pm, making dinner, eating dinner, and going to bed. Doc told me to take my dinner to work and eat it at 6pm every day.
In the past 5 months since I got that advice, I've lost almost 40 pounds, putting me at the lowest weight I've been since sometime in the middle of college. Can't say it's made my life great (food is so boring now, since I pretty much have to make the entire week's dinner on Sunday, by Friday dinner is just depressing, and I have to spend the weekend to figure out what dish I'll hate next week...) but I'm sure I'm healthier for it.
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If you wait to eat until you get home, when it's late and you're tired and cranky you're far more likely to
1) snack while cooking
2) cook a larger meal because you're really hungry
3) cook something easy and quick, which is likely to be lower in nutrition and higher in calories
Very easy to do without realising it, and even when you do it's easy to rationalise as 'just thi
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Re:I gained weight because I quit smoking... (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:I gained weight because I quit smoking... (Score:5, Informative)
Your body's doing a lot while sleeping. Your heart's beating, your core body temperature is maintained (this takes a reasonable amount of energy just by itself), systemic repair mechanisms are working, you're tossing and turning, etc.
Eat Breakfast! (Score:3, Interesting)
No matter how you slice it though, there's a huge positive correlation with eating breakfast and losing and maintaining a healthy weight.
See:
Skipping Cereal and Eggs, and Packing on Pounds [nytimes.com]
Lose Weight: Eat Breakfast [webmd.com]
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NOBODY is suggesting you're gonna gain more than 1kg of mass from eating 1 kg of food. No one.
Usually the energy density of food is somewhat less than 100%, unless you're drinking olive oil. Calories are a measure of the amount of heat produced when the carbs, protein, and fat in your food are burnt under laboratory conditions. It's a measure of available energy. This energy can be stored as lipids in the body, and those lipids, or fat, have a mass. It's around 3600 calories per pou