Bootleg Tron 2 Trailer Is Out In the Wild 216
An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo and Filmstalker are showing the Tron 2 (aka Tr2n) teaser from Comic-Con 08. From the Giz article: 'It's a tiny bootleg video, but I don't care. You can see that the 3D looks amazing, the new lightcycles are stunning (and move like real bikes), the world and the whole mood is Batman-like dark. And Jeff Bridges ... well, he is Jeff Bridges. What can I say, he looks like a badass version of The Dude. "It's just a game!" he shouts. No, it's not. It's Tr2n. At last. Note: excuse the excitement, but I saw the original in the movie theater, and 200 times after that. With War Games, it's what got me into technology when I was a kid, and ultimately here in Giz. The only thing that has me worried is that the characters in the computer world are fully 3D.'"
Greetings, programs! (Score:4, Funny)
Did anyone else notice that the yellow dude looked just like Rimmer? I hope he plays a thinly veiled UAC, that would be perfect.
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I hope he plays a thinly veiled UAC...
Allow or Deny?
Or in Dr Who speak: "Obey or Exterminate?"
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I think its David Warner. [imdb.com]
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Very bootleg indeed. The article summary suggests "You can see that the 3D looks amazing". HA! Looks about the same as the original Tron from the quality of the capture. I'm sure it will be slick, but this bootleg doesn't give you any hint as to what's coming as far as quality. I'm excited, I loved Tron, pumped many thousands of quarters into the video game and of course, own the 25th Anniversary Special Edition DVD... may have to watch it again this weekend...
Looking forward to seeing this become a reality
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Oh, I bet my rear end that we'll see a new computer game, too, don't worry.
I just pray (I might even turn religious over that again) that they don't just dump it on some studio to make a quick buck but that we actually get a great game out of it.
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You don't watch many bootlegs, do you? Try the NYC Bitch Committee's release of Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood on February 26, 2008, or the audience video of Acoustic Syndicate on December 22, 2007. There are quite a few high quality bootleg audience videos out there.
Frankly, I'm disappointed that geeks couldn't do any better. Hell, Eric Clapton's fans have top-quality audience videos of half the shows he's played in the last decade
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You don't watch many bootlegs, do you?
More than you it would seem. I agree that good quality bootlegs exist, but to infer that these are representative of the majority betrays a considerable jejunity. To then equate the difficulty of snatching pre-release footage of a blockbuster film, to managing to record a Clapton gig, heftily reinforces that impression of naivety.
Then I saw your sig, and realised that these issues are the least of your problems.
Tr2n? (Score:4, Funny)
How do you even pronounce something like that? "Two" doesn't sound like the letter "O" nor does it look like one. Isn't "2" supposed to replace the letter "Z" or something?
Can someone with a major in L337-sp34k explain it?
Re:Tr2n? (Score:5, Funny)
How do you even pronounce something like that? "Two" doesn't sound like the letter "O" nor does it look like one. Isn't "2" supposed to replace the letter "Z" or something?
Can someone with a major in L337-sp34k explain it?
If you are trying to parse it in l337 sp34k, that's your problem. It's parsed in Prince-Speak.
While there does appear to be letters in the title, it's actually a symbol. You pronounce it "The movie formerly known as Tron 2."
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Pr2n? (Score:2)
That's a sequel I want to see....
Could have been worse. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Could have been worse. (Score:5, Funny)
Just replace lightcycles with DDR, and it could be called Tron 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Re:Tr2n? (Score:4, Insightful)
They should have called it Tron 10. After all, Tron is the only movie so far with a bit in a speaking role.
Re:Tr2n? (Score:5, Interesting)
You have my vote for "Tron 10". Write is as such but say "Tron 2" when speaking it out loud.
Would confuse the hell of out of people. :D
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But at least you'd know who you were talking to, without the need for the wink and the special handshake. And the grab-own-crotch motion.
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I guess you have to have seen the movie...
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Wouldn't that be "Tron no-no-no-no-no-no-yes-no"?
Re:Tr2n? (Score:4, Funny)
After all, Tron is the only movie so far with a bit in a speaking role.
It was just a bit part.
Re:Tr2n? (Score:4, Funny)
>> After all, Tron is the only movie so far with a bit in a speaking role.
> It was just a bit part.
Yes, but it had regular work in a serial.
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Well, that regular work must not have paid very well; it had to use a bus to get around.
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Well, that regular work must not have paid very well; it had to use a bus to get around.
I'm sure it paid pretty well, considering all the time it spends in rolling in cache.
Ok.. I know that one was a stretch)
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Well at least if you pronounce that it sounds a bit like "two-ron", pretty close to "T-ron". Closer than "Tr2n" anyway.
Giz? Gizmodo! (Score:2)
So both the submitter *and* the /. editor failed to read the submission?
I'm in. (Score:2)
Saw the original in theaters, can point out the hidden Mickey Mouse. Inspired me to become an avid gamer. /end of line
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Saw the original in theaters, can point out the hidden Mickey Mouse.
yes, but can you explain the purpose of the grid bugs?
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to get us... duh.
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Easy kills for bumping up those early weapon skills.
They also zap you.
Something is wrong here (Score:2, Interesting)
1. Make Tron in 1980's and lose money
2. Make sequel to the failure movie
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Wouldn't investors want more details about step 3?
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1. Make Tron in 1980's and lose money
2. Make sequel to the failure movie
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Wouldn't investors want more details about step 3?
Step 3 seems obvious: The geek kids who loved the original Tron have grown up to have high-paying computer industry jobs, and can easily afford repeated viewings of the sequel, plus Blu-Ray special editions, etc.
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Worked for Fantasia and Fantasia 2000, didn't it? Oh, wait.
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Cleaned up video link (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x692m3_tr2n-cleaned-up-001_fun [dailymotion.com]
Because it was annoying enough for me to figure out which links to click, and I want to save someone else from the effort.
So is this for real? Are they really making a sequel, or is this just some guy's fan-made video? It's pretty good, though. Even with the rough quality (or maybe because of it), it looks like they had guys really riding motorcycles like that, then added CGI over the live footage.
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I don't get it. Didn't Tron 2 come out like 5 years ago? It was a video game, and a pretty decent one.
Great Tron-Based game (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:Great Tron-Based game - install instructions (Score:2)
sudo apt-get install armagetron
The Dude Abides (Score:5, Funny)
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
-Peter
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"Or El Tr2narino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
Look (Score:2)
This movie is to cater one demand in entertainment (SCIFI - XMEN,BATMAN,ETC, these movies are ma
yesyesyes (Score:4, Funny)
WAAAAHHHGHGHGH, I am soooooo excited about this. I even use extra oooooo's in sooooo to illustrate my happiness.
seriously, tron was a huge part of my childhood. I used to have a VHS taped from a TV broadcast. I had the movie, and the commercials memorized. I would plant my ass in front of the TV, watch my Tron, and make my legos. I would be sitting there building a castle or something, and muttering the dialog along with the movie, then, the commercials would come on and I would continue: "Heart disease, kidney disease, and blindness, are all signs...".
Do you think we can merge with this memory, bit?
my older brother and sister had an intellivision,so I came up playing that. (I was born in 1981) my FAVORITE game was Tron, Deadly Discs. it remained my favorite game until the NES hit a few years later.
I used to get my parents to take me to chuck-e-cheese's (a pizza video game place if you are from far off lands, I am not a totally insensitive clod), and I would take all the tokens and pump them into the tron machine. Mom would say "wouldn't you like to try some other games?"....
"BUT MOOOOOM! I WANNA PLAY MY TRON! Can I watch my tron when I get home?"
"Kelly, you have seen that program a million times, don't you think you should get outside and play?"
"MOM! WHO YOU CALLIN A PROGRAM, PROGRAM?!?
"kelly you need your exercise"
"BUT MO-OM! I am playing the game and I wanna go watch the movie and make my legos!"
and so on
Bring in the logic probe! I can't wait anymore
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Haha, I had memorized all the commercials from my taped copy of The Goonies.
Actually, it doesn't feel quite right when I watch the DVD and don't have the cool commercial breaks.
Yeah, the bikes move like real bikes (Score:4, Interesting)
So much so, in fact, that it looks like a couple of guys riding bikes around a neon-lit soundstage. Woo-hoo.
Maybe I'm just a bitter old fart, but one of my problems with a lot of modern video games is that the physics are kind of in the uncanny valley for me -- they're undeniably much more realistic than they were when I was a teenage gaming geek a quarter of a century ago (and we used real quarters back then, whippersnapper!) but they're still not quite realistic enough, so I find them constantly distracting. The light cycles in the original Tron moved like they could, in fact, exist only in a video game universe; the scenes with them were maybe the only part of the movie where you could really believe you were seeing a world completely different from that outside the machine. If Tr2n has the almost-but-not-quite-real look of most modern video games, which is what the trailer seems to indicate, then it will be quite a disappointment ... maybe not to younger viewers, but to those of us who were teenagers when the original came out, and I think we're the target demographic here.
Ah, what the hell. Of course I'll go see it. ;)
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Obligatory Simpson's quote, "Has anybody seen the movie Tron?".
What we learned from this trailer (Score:3, Interesting)
Two things:
1. In the future, programs will fight each other using Aerobies rather than Frisbees.
2. It's a helluva lot harder to get derezzed than it used to be.
They move like real bikes (Score:4, Insightful)
They moved like real bikes in the original movie as well. It was only on the game grid that the lightcycles appeared to turn at right angles.
How much you wanna bet... (Score:4, Funny)
Why'd they mess with light cycles? (Score:2)
Maybe these changes will be explained as having to do with computer advances or
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"Light cycles turn 90 degrees instantly. Seeing pathetic little air brakes (is that what they were?) and a sideways skidding bike make me wanna puke. He could have come withing an inch of the wall and taken off to the side without losing any speed."
Have you not seen Tron recently or don't you remember that the 90 degrees instant turn only hap
But when is the real trailer out? (Score:2)
What's with all this waiting - nobody is getting any younger you know!
vs Speed Racer (Score:2)
Speed Racer showed us physics-defying CGI cars, and pretended that it was happening in the real world. The result was, hmmm, kinda sucky. TR2N, otoh, is going to give us physics-defying CGI light-cycles, but admit that it's all happening in an unreal world. I expect that this movie will be a visual orgasm.
PS I watched that trailer five times before coming back here to post this.
Pixar involvement? (Score:2)
The good news: George Lucas is not involved in this one, but rumor is that Pixar may be.
At first, I was going to cry, "Bullshit", but then I thought about it a bit more. On the 25th anniversay DVD, John Lassiter tells us that TRON inspired him to get into CGI animation, and let's face it, any one of us could replicate TRON's special effects at home today. The day after Disney acquired Pixar, I could see Lassiter saying, "OK, I want to do my first live action movie, and I want it to be TRON". With all those pitch-black backgrounds and such, that trailer does't need the CPU cycles that even t
They haven't asked yet... (Score:4, Informative)
To answer the inevitable questions: No, they haven't asked me to participate yet. Yes, if they ask, I'll do it.
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Chip H.
Funding status? (Score:2)
How is their funding?
If it's weak, has anyone set up an account for donations?
Chip H.
Re:first post (Score:5, Interesting)
i don't give a shit.
Not very surprising. I'm 25 years old and I would be hard pressed to find anyone I know that has even seen it let a lone someone that would be excited for a sequel (myself.. I'm leaning towards meh on the whole thing). With that insipid 2 in the name and the almost certainty it will be another 3D eye candy stroke fest (Beowulf anyone?) I'm finding it hard to get pumped, I know.. I know.. fast shiny motorbikes I should have a hard on and a taste for red meat and a bar fight, but I just don't!
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I remember being excited as hell to see the original - got the tickets, and played Tron (the arcade game, which was released a month or so before the movie was) until it was time to watch the movie.
I was completely blown away. CGI is taken for granted these days (and often villified if it's anything but perfect), but Tron was the first of it's kind. The story is... ok (though it doesn't really stand up over time). But the visuals were amazing, and some of the music was great at adding even more punch to
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I would be very excited about a sequel, but probably not this one. It already looks to be shaping up to be a CGI crap-fest. I'd really like to see the philosophy and religion of the Tron universe explored further than it was, but I guess this will probably be dumbeddown and devoid of anything like that. You want a sequel, install Tron 2.0 on your PC and play it.
Oh, and why couldn't this guy ZOOM up onto the screen instead of having it sideways in the very bottom corner? Moron.
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Youre at least 6 or 7 years too young to appreciate this. Sadly, your generation's nostalgia will be rap videos and Captain Planet. *shudders*
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I'm moderately interested in this Tron, and I'm 24. I saw it once I was really young and loved it, though I didn't really know what was going on beyond a guy being stuck inside a computer (I guess that's all that you need to know though!). I happily saw it on TV more recently and now actually know what a mainframe etc is so it made a bit more sense. The graphics are pretty cool in a retro way, and were probably amazing for the time.
I also went through a month or two of playing a lot of Armagetron - it's a g
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It was wrong to make the first version of Mount Rushmore.
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Maybe you haven't noticed there are about 500 versions of Blade Runner at this point.
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Heh, mod parent informative or funny, I didn't even think of that when I read the GP :p
(info from Wikipedia)
Movie versions:
* Original workprint version (1982, 113 minutes)
* A San Diego Sneak Preview shown only once in May 1982
* The U.S. theatrical version (1982, 116 minutes)
* The International Cut (1982, 117 minutes) also known as the "Criterion Edition" or uncut version
* The U.S. broadcast version
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Well duh; They originally spent something like $25 million, now equal to 50 million, to make Tron. And that was after they gave up and outsourced the job of "manually composite up to 30 layers into every frame" to a southeast Asian shop about halfway through.
But yeah, I'm really worried that they'll fuck it up. They were smart enough to bring back Wendy Carlos and a lot of the original actors to do Tron 2.0's music & vocals. Not smart en
Re:War games comment (Score:5, Insightful)
War Games is a very shitty movie because it's a cookie-cutter Hollywood movie.
That's why it was successful: it took relatively new ideas (boy hacker and war computers) and wrapped it in a tried-and-true plot formula. Complaining about Hollywood acting like Hollywood is ... well ...cookie-cutter complaining. If you want more sophisticated sci-fi, then I recommend you read sci-fi books.
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Yes, and if you look at the current "gaming" computers, they're in for a new spin spinning (did I just write that?)
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I'm going to guess you are about 20 years old.
So what holywood movie did you watch that followed this formula and came out before Wargames?
Boy accidentally hacks miltitary facility
Not unheard of at the time. You have to remeber, most of the initial security was through obsecurity. From a Phreaking perspective, this was right on. You really did setup your wardialer and got o school. You'd run home and read a print out and die for so
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In real life, September 1983, the cold war was very close to turning hot. In addition to all of the stuff like KAL that you heard about, there was one thing that didn't make the news until after the Soviet Union collapsed (I think the story was in the Washington post about 10 years ago):
The Soviets implemented a new satellite monitoring system, which immediately detected a missile launch over North Dakota. The Soviets pretty much went to DEFCON-1 before a Lt-col managed to convince the Kremlin that there
Re:nice (Score:4, Funny)
I was going over dvds at netflix the other day and found out my wife never saw tron.
Yeah, I've been there. The Tron Guy Suit I wear when having sex made a whole lot more sense to her after she saw the film.
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Why am I now pondering now what you do with the disc...
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"If Microsoft produced Tron we'd have to wait for Tr3n for them to get it right."
And if the Open Source Community produced Tron, we'd have to wait for Microsoft to get Tr3n right.
Pixar is involved in this... (Score:2)
...so yeah, it's kind of assured the 3D animation will be state of the art.
It was a Cray (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It was a PDP-10 clone (Foonly), not a Cray (Score:2, Informative)
Oh dear (Score:3, Insightful)
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This site [osu.edu] will tell you a great deal about the graphics in TRON and how they were produced. They were done by several different companies on a bunch of different hardware.
AFAIK, the only things that were hand-painted were the rotoscoped "circuitry" traces on the costumes, and the Grid Bugs.
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It's like an amateur version of Speed Racer. It looks like something somebody put together with Blender.
As a driving game, it looks like fun. As a movie, probably not.
Had you seen a 2 minute clip of the lightcycle race from the original Tron, you would have thought the same thing because you have absolutely no context around what the movie is about. If you saw the entire Tron movie and still held that opinion then either you didn't get it at all, or you can get the hell off my lawn you whippersnapper.
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Maybe. OTOH the original light cycles were cool and abused physics with those 90 degree turns, they looked nifty and shouted in all caps "this is not the world you're used to!". The new light cycles come to a stop (WTF?) and make boring real world type turns, for all you know they're just a bunch of twits in downtown LA with neon lights on their racing bikes.
Not a great film, but technically brilliant (Score:5, Interesting)
Which I still remember as being a lousy movie even when I was a kid. Kept up the standard disney mediocrity from the Barefoot Executive to the Black Hole. Even the metaphors to how computers really worked seemed lame. The only area where the movie works for me is in the visuals.
I think you're being slightly harsh, but I agree that Tron isn't a particularly great movie overall- and also that the visuals are by far and away the best thing about it.
:-)
To be fair, although I'm in my early thirties and old enough to have seen (and clearly remembered) Tron when it first came out, I didn't. (*) It wasn't until years later that I caught it on TV. That might colour my judgement- but also to be fair, I could say the same about the nostalgia of people who saw it as kids when it first came out.
Problem isn't just that the plot is flimsy, it's that the film never really makes you believe in the characters or care about what's at stake. The dialogue is clunky and the acting nothing special. I could tolerate the cheesiness, but not that.
So, no... Tron isn't- and never was- a Matrix for its times. Despite being a staple of 80s "nostalgia", its influence on most people at the time was minimal. However, I do think it's visually and technically brilliant, and although some aspects of its attempt to bring the then-new computer culture to the mainstream were quite cheesy, it deserves some credit for the attempt (and has to be seen in the context of the time).
I could say more, but I already said a lot of what I wanted to say in two previous posts; why I think trying to make a Tron sequel after 20-25 years is pointless [slashdot.org] and why Tron's true technical achievements with pre-digital film-matte animation went sadly unrecognised [slashdot.org]. Both with Score:5 goodness
(*) I did, however, get to see ET, like most other people did. Vastly overrated film, I never liked it.
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You have to admit though, Tron had some cool moments. As did Black Hole - ya gotta love humans turned into drones with mirror-masks (not the Cirque De Soleil type, either) and Maximillian the hovering, exceptionally menacing robot with the blender arms shredding Tony Perkins for no apparent reason. I was maybe 12 when it came out and while it was not a good movie at all, I thought it was cool then. I think kids tend to overlook stuff that doesn't work and focus on anything 'cool'. My parents called it 'lost
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This at least looks like it could be a decent sequel, and is not a "remake". Hollywood is remaking a lot of crap, and badly I might add (I don't have high hopes for The Day The Earth Stood Still, or Short Circuit for example), but this one looks like it could do well. I also like to think of Jeff Bridges as someone who is choosy about what scripts he'll go for, but that might just be my idealism talking.
Re:Yay Aping And Repetitiveness. (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah seriously! Who wants more sequels of a serial visual story telling medium! Stupid comic book sequels!
I'm always overwhelmed at the irony of comic book readers who complain about the number of 'sequels'.
Were there people chewing out Homer when he wrote the Odyssey "Oh Lords of Olympus not another sequel!"
I can see the Hebrews in the wilderness "Enough already with the Yahweh stories... we get it... we get it... how about something new and original!"
"What a sequel to the Hobbit!? Do we REALLY need more stories about midgets and magic gold rings?"
I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day you wake up is a sequel.
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More about the Tron (1.0) story line (Score:2)
"Why do people get hung up on stories having to have this amazing storyline to them. I love how vague parts of the story are AND how simple they are."
I wish to heck that I still had my copy of the paperback that filled in some of the details. There was more to it than ended up in the movie. Folks, I don't know who the author of that book knew in the industry, but he definitely knew at least one person who would qualify as "one of us."
The back story in the paperback, which was definitely G-rated but also d