Netflix Signs Deal With Disney-ABC 212
tekgoblin writes "Netflix announced today that they have brokered a deal with Disney-ABC to add their content to the Netflix library. The deal should add a substantial number of new TV shows and Movies to instant watch. The episodes will be added rather quickly to instant watch only 15 days after initial telecast."
Can't Wait (Score:3, Funny)
Two Wor... er, characters: P&F (Score:4)
Phineas and Ferb.
I can't stand the rest of Disney's lineup, but that show is one of my favorite pieces of television ever. A light and pleasantly self-aware show where the protagonists build fantastic things to enjoy and play with? All the fun of Family Guy without the grossness and empty cynicism? Yes, more please.
Wow surprising (Score:5, Insightful)
Thats kind of a huge deal if it includes streaming. Just yesterday there was an article about how Netflix was non-sustainable because its deals were not direct with the content providers but rather mostly 3rd party like Starz. Guess they are working to pre-emptively fix that issue.
Re:Wow surprising (Score:5, Insightful)
Er what? I think you misread what the CEO was saying (assuming the article you don't cite mentions it). Netflix was saying that third-party content providers were not essential to its success. [yahoo.com] At the end of the day, Netflix has the subscriber base and the cash rolling in to negotiate with whomever they want. It doesn't matter if they go direct or via some third-party route.
At the end of the day, it's in the studios' or brokers' best interest to receive large slabs of money because content providers can double dip as much as they want. First the air it on TV (money), host it on their sites (more money), make it available to iTunes and other pay-per-view services (the dollars continue to flow), then sign up as many streaming services as those companies can afford (ooooh, they're getting richer) before releasing to DVD and syndication.
Direct or indirect - Netflix doesn't care because someone will agree to those handsome checks.
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On the other hand, there are a huge number of parents who might sign up if it means they can instant-queue the Little Mermaid or Aladdin or Bolt or Monsters Inc or Toy Story over and over again for their kids without worrying about scratching up a DVD.
The convenience factor is such that I'll use it even when I own the DVD, sometimes. Skipping menus and commercials and "don't steal this" BS is wonderful.
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No actually you just assumed the wrong article. What I was referring to was this...
http://gawker.com/5471943/why-netflix-wont-be-the-hbo-of-the-21st-century [gawker.com]
Several others have been posted recently as well, mainly pointing out that the current deals allowing streaming to piggyback on existing licensing will be mostly dried up by 2012 causing netflix to have to compete with the big boys like hbo and showtime on a more equal footing as far as costs go. The current deal with Starz for instance was signed for
15 days is quickly? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Why exactly do I care to get a scene download when I can get a legit download a couple weeks later?
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I agree with your general sentiment, but you aren't getting a legit download. You're getting a legit stream.
Re:15 days is quickly? (Score:5, Insightful)
Fair point. But for a TV show (and most movies for that matter), the odds I care to watch it twice are pretty low. And I can always stream it again.
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Might not be a factor for you, but it is for many people. This is why the DRM of a game is already somewhat of a success if it keeps the pirates (arr) at bay for even a couple of days or a week: many people want to play the game on day 1, and if they can afford it they will pay for the privilege even if they wouldn't, otherwise. Or so the theory goes. I think the same applies to TV series, particularly the popular, water-cooler-talk ones.
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$7.99 is the same price as Hulu plus, which doesn't have any movies and still has commercials.
Come to think of it, I bet Netflix will introduce ads with this deal... I sure hope not, but I have a bad feeling. It's Disney after all. They make you watch ads at the start of DVD'
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If they do any advertising I will cancel and let them know why.
I will go to blockbuster or redbox. Any advertising would make the streaming dead to me.
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Of course they will. It's Disney. The shows themselves ARE commercials, for the videos, appearances, concerts, movies, etc. of the talentless hacks in the programs.
As Lao-tzu said (Score:4, Insightful)
"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."
I'm quite sure Netflix would be happy to offer immediate availability. However, they are fighting with a very entrenched media industry, an industry that regularly acts against their own best interests. So, maybe there needs to be some middle ground. Eventually hopefully it'll be immediate streaming to Netflix. As it stands, this isn't bad.
Please remember Netflix offers five things that warez does not which make it worth paying for:
1) Instant gratification. Netflix is streaming. You punch play, you are watching seconds later. Warez is all download. Now on a fast connection, the difference isn't a big deal. If you are rocking 50mbps cable or FIOS, you can pull down a 100-200MB file so fast it makes no real difference. However most people aren't. On a 5-10mbps cable connection, which is more normal, you can wait several minutes and that is presuming your download is fast. With Netflix, it just buffers for a second and then goes.
2) Ease. Netflix is really, really easy to use. Very friendly for non-technically savvy people, and even those of us who are good with computers can appreciate the good interface. Locating and watching things on it is dead simple, and it has useful features like recommending new stuff you might like (sometimes people want to watch something but have nothing specific in mind).
3) Quality control. When you watch something on Netflix, you get what you want. I've never seen its streaming to error. With warez, well sometimes shit isn't what it claims to be. You deal with idiots uploading things, jackasses who want to cause trouble, media industry spamming bad stuff, etc. Not a major deal but you can spend 30 minutes downloading only to find you've got something you don't want.
4) Device integration. Netflix is available on all kinds of devices. Blu-ray players, TVs, etc. This is real nice for living room watching. I don't break out my laptop, just turn on my Blu-ray player and it handles the rest. Yes you can build a media center box for warez'd stuff, that takes technical know how, not to mention is probably going to cost a bit more.
5) Legitimacy. Perhaps you personally don't care at all if what you are doing is legal or not, and feel no morals about downloading stuff you didn't pay for. Some people do, some people care. They want to do the right thing. Netflix offers that. It is 100% legal and legit.
So while it isn't perfect, it is getting better and that's all we can ask really. Netflix has gone from a unique form of DVD rental service to one of the largest video streaming services in the world in only a few years. Now they are growing their content, and getting better time tables. If this keeps up, we hopefully WILL see a large catalogue of quickly available stuff in a few years time.
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Hmm (Score:5, Interesting)
How about all those cool Disney Afternoon series? Duck Tales. That Jungle Book one. Darkwing Duck.
Dan Casltellana was a better Genie, IMHO.
I'm old. :-(
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15 Days? (Score:4, Insightful)
Forgive my ignorance, but why the delay? Is this "punishment" for not viewing it when it's broadcast? I mean, why wait more than 24 hours? If you are that much of a fan of a show, you're going to watch it when it airs, yes? And if you already have NetFlix, then offering it more quickly would just increase your chances of acquiring new viewers that might turn into fans who might just watch it when it airs. If you are already a fan, then it's just gravy in case you miss an episode. So where is the advantage to waiting?
Re:15 Days? (Score:5, Insightful)
I do not have a TV, or cable of any sort in my home.
being that I currently spend months waiting for the shows to come to DVD, this is a LOT better than nothing.
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Written to by read aloud by Captain Kirk?
Re:15 Days? (Score:5, Insightful)
Forgive my ignorance, but why the delay? Is this "punishment" for not viewing it when it's broadcast?
No. It's so Disney continues to make money from advertisers. If the show turns up 24 hours later on Netflix commercial free, then there's little incentive for somebody to purchase advertising time during its broadcast.
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The problem with this thinking is if someone misses an episode. Fox had a similar system with some of their shows for a while and the result was that once I had missed one episode, I stopped watching the broadcast for the rest of the season since I wanted the watch the previous episode before watching the next one. By providing it online 5-6 days later, people can catch up last weeks episode and still watch the broadcast for the current week.
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If I miss an episode in a season, I will have to stop watching the television broadcast altogether, and start just watching Netflix (or, since neither of those solutions is optimal, pirate it)
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No, then I will cancel.
Any commercials will lead to commercials in all programs.
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We're not talking about the Disney channel. Quoth the article:
Prior season episodes of current ABC hit series “Grey’s Anatomy,” ”Desperate Housewives” and, for the first time on Netflix, “Brothers & Sisters,” all of which are among the network’s most successful and popular TV franchises in recent years.
Every episode of recent ABC favorites “Lost” and “Ugly Betty,” the latter making its streaming debut at Netflix.
Each season of several hit series from ABC Studios, including “Scrubs” and “Reaper,” which are both new additions to Netflix.
A host of content from the Disney Channel, including the hits “Phineas and Ferb” and “Good Luck Charlie,” which are also new to Netflix; updated and expanded offerings of “The Suite Life on Deck” and “Wizards of Waverly Place;” and library offerings from the smash hits “Hannah Montana” and “The Suite Life of Zack & Cody.”
A wide range of content from ABC Family, marking the introduction of ABC Family content streaming from Netflix. Included are the hit series “Greek,” “Make It or Break It,” “The Secret Life of the American Teenager” and “Melissa & Joey.”
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This wouldn't matter so much for Disney, but I assume that it's exactly that - punishment for not viewing when broadcast. I'm sure the content deal with Netflix brings in less money that same-day broadcast advertising sales.
For myself, there were just too many shows that started this fall, and half of them may be crap. I'm following half of that half weekly right now. When they're on break, I'll go back and catch up on the rest. Would be a whole lot easier if those were just all on Netflix. A
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It's so they can continue to sell their content to "first-run" network broadcasters at an artificially high price, while doing a halfhearted bare minimum to be able to claim that they're playing nice with online distributors and trying to give their geeky customers an alternative to piracy.
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But then, I don't watch things like "Glee" or whatever it is people sit around talking about at the proverbial water cooler anyway.
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I know everyone fast forwards through commercials with DVRs, but even seeing the existence must have more impact than not having them at all.
So, if people cycle through what's saved on their DVRs every two weeks on average, they make more in ad revenue if they delay the release beyond that window.
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No, not necessarily. In fact, there have been cases where I have deleted my Tivoed recordings of a show that I liked _more_ because I knew it was more popular and would get on DVD eventually.. That was to make room for something else. Even for shows I like a lot, I often bank up MANY episodes and then watch them later. (Heck, I'm on 2007 episodes of Cold Case.) If more of the Netflix shows had captions (especially usef
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I don't think they care about you watching live so much as they care about the ratings for advertisers. I'm guessing they have all the data for Hulu, but maybe the ads aren't as lucrative?
Canada? (Score:5, Insightful)
What territories did Netflix get these rights? Because I doubt that we'll ever see any of this on netflix.ca.
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Well, I'm seeing the press release listed in the Media Centre section of the Netflix.ca website. Not sure if that means anything or not. Has Netflix in the past limited the release of media announcements regarding US-only stuff to their US website or have they always cross-posted to netflix.ca?
Guess I'll have to wait and find out.
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Don't feel too bad no one gets STTNG anyway.
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I was considering netflix, but if such content isn't there, no dice.
I just checked the site: None of the recent Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, V, Starlost, Space 1999, Hogan's Heroes, Gilligan's Island, Get Smart, Stargate, Bewitched (Well, they've got the movie, but not the series), Farscape, Breaking Bad, Junkyard Wars, Lost, Survivorman, Joan of Arcadia, Corner Gas...
Pretty pathetic.
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Proxies work, but you might also need a US address and credit card.
I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (Score:2)
Having never seen Lost, it was in my instant queue for a while, untill one day it just became "unavailable". According to Netflix's FAQ page, some titles may become available/unavailable based on deals provided by the content providers. Lost will be available again (I think tomorrow), possibly due to this deal. On the other hand, some DVD items that I have wanted to watch have also become unavailable, and will probably remain so for the near future. Specifically out-of-print anime items that I am lookin
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As part of this deal do not be surprised to see out of print disney stuff disappear from dvd as well.
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Oye, the Vault... Worst part about working the music shop in disneyland, having to explain to people why the best movies were not being sold anymore. Hell, we got all our info on vault locked titles not from corp HQ or anything official, we used a 3-ring binder filled with printouts from ultimatedisney.com
Re:I've become somewhat wary of streaming... (Score:4, Insightful)
This is one of those things that makes me want copyright to be maybe 14 years max and surely void if you ever refuse to sell the material.
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This is why I prefer physical media. Streaming as a trap and I am sure the studios love pushing back towards subscriptions. The next step will be Netflix going to pay per view.
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I do not think the customer base would go for that. The studios can only sell what folks will buy.
Either way, enjoy it while it lasts.
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I've seen stuff disappear out of my "Instant queue" as well. In fact, I was just starting to watch Farscape for the first time and after only seeing 3 episodes, it was removed.
However, I think even with the stuff that's removed from their streaming service, it's still mostly available via DVD. While you can get the unlimited streaming service for I think $8.00, if you go up to $10/month, you can get unlimited streaming and 1 DVD at a time. You may be able to get those out-of-print programs that way (if t
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I do use the dvd service, quite often. The problem I have is that Netflix does not seem to be restocking their less popular DVD's, and since DVD's wear out after being mailed around and seen by so many people, inevitably some items will be unavailable. (Disk 1 of a series was unavailable but 2-6 were there. That's kind of tough to get around). I had just hoped streaming would not have that problem, since there is no disk to scratch, yet these items become unavailable because of contract stipulations, re
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I have noticed Netflix has fewer and fewer of the DVD's I want to watch; I have more in Saved than in my Queue. Am I the only one, or is netflix slowing down on DVDs?
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You're not the only one; I've had several DVDs moved to my saved section, after being in my queue for years (I filled up my queue rather quick, then let it sit for a while; what can I say, I've been busy). For me, I currently don't have the bandwidth to stream, so I hope they don't neglect their DVD side.
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However, a big part of the reason I signed up for Netflix was to copy shows onto the iPod my wife and I use at the gym. DVDs can be copied to it, but watch instantly shows cannot.
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And around the world... (Score:4, Insightful)
This is new? (Score:2)
I know the summary (and linked article) both mention "TV shows and movies" - but didn't Netflix already have an agreement with Disney regarding getting their movies quickly?
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Step in the right direction...ish.. (Score:2)
I mean, besides Disney and all that.
I have netflix, and love the streaming capabilities. That said, it seems their streaming content is getting less rather than more. I had several titles in my queue that I was watching that are no longer available for streaming.
On top of that, none of what I want to watch seems to be available for streaming.
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That said, it seems their streaming content is getting less rather than more. I had several titles in my queue that I was watching that are no longer available for streaming.
Um, they add and remove titles all the time. To conclude that it's "getting less rather than more", you would have to show that the number they remove each month exceeds the number they add, which does not match what I see. In fact, I frequently have movies that were in my DVD queue magically appear in my streaming queue (which is nice of them to do).
On top of that, none of what I want to watch seems to be available for streaming.
That sounds like a personal problem. I'm sorry your tastes are so limited. :p
I actually felt a little like that at first, but I've become very pleased with
Goodbye Dish Network (Score:2)
Probably Not As Good As It Sounds (Score:2)
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You did say *for any price*. I see new copies, from Amazon resellers, for $129.
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How does that matter? Well - that is, except for the biggest shows. If you just delay the start of your season by 15 days, you can have weekly episodes coming in. Are your shows really that important to yourself and the water cooler talk that goes with it?
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Why do you care?
$7.99, no commercials, no lawsuits, no hunting through torrent sites or setting up rss downloaders.
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You're missing the biggie: Streaming. You click 'play' and a moment later you're watching it, even to your cell phone or blu-ray player if you like.
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Works on my blu-ray player(PS3) but due to netflix's relationship with MS not on my phone or computer.
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Why not on your computer?
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They lack a linux client, which means it does not work on my computer nor my phone.
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They definitely use some proprietary stuff, but what I was curious about was the 'deal with MS' he referred to. Netflix works just fine on my Mac and PC. The only 'MS agreement' I know about was the reason the Wii version of Netflix required a disc, and that expired a couple of months ago.
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He probably means them using silverlight
Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (Score:4)
"He probably means them using silverlight"
I am sure he does.
I found myself in the same predicament--trust Microsoft and Silverlight(only god herself knows what MS is actually doing with it), or give up Netflix Instant View.
After a little rationalization, I came to the conclusion that Netflix itself could be trusted to make sure Microsoft wasn't jerking me around. So far, Netflix has been a relatively trustworthy company, IMHO. A decent product at a decent price and zero complaints from me. I can't say that about too many companies I have done business with.
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The MS deal I refer to was their choice of silverlight for non-tech reasons. It was chosen since the owner of netflix sits on the MS board.
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I recently bought a standard def roku box on ebay that I use to watch Netflix streaming through my tv capture card on linux; works like a charm!
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Re:Pffft *dismissive hand wave* (Score:5, Insightful)
Believe it or not, some people prefer obtaining their content legally.
Or just don't want to risk getting sued, or in trouble with their ISP.
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And some people prefer not seeing Disney get a single thin dime of their money.
I'm a long-time Netflix subscriber, and this deal makes Netflix less attractive to me. I understand that it's not possible to be alive in the US in 2010 and not have a certain percentage of your income transfer directly to Disney, but I'm not really comfortable voluntarily giving them more.
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What's this "hunting" of which you speak?
SickBeard [sickbeard.com]
Does Torrents & NZB files. I've NEVER had it miss a show. It aggregates like 6 different search providers so there is a lot of overlap.
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I'd sooner drink lye.
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Right. Or you could wait a whole 15 fucking days, and not be a douchebag leeching off the work of artists.
I understand this complaint when it's a length of time spanning months or years, but two weeks is hardly unreasonable.
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So if I want to watch Pinocchio or Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, I should pay Disney for the artists sake? Even though "the artists" are all dead?
I've decided that 15 years is when public domain kicks in. I understand that's not the law, but that's as far as I'm willing to go.
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Wholly owned subsidiary (Score:2)
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Although I could afford the $100 box, I've got *plenty* of boxes around already and don't really want to get another one just because they couldn't be arsed to support video codec standards.
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Is turning on the English language subtitles, a classic shortcut on closed-captioning issues, available here?
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After Amazon has their streaming subscription. Since that is flash and works on linux and many other platforms, netflix will be forced to change their ways.