Classic BBC Sci-fi Series Blake's 7 To Return On Syfy Channel 213
Zaiff Urgulbunger writes "According to the BBC, 'Cult classic sci-fi series Blake's 7 is to be remade for the Syfy network, it has been announced. FremantleMedia International said 13 hour-long episodes will be written by Heroes writer Joe Pokaski.' Here's hoping the special effects budget will be higher than for the original series! Also, I'm hoping that the Liberator is of similar design and includes Zen — the ships computer."
I'll miss the old school special effects (Score:4, Insightful)
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I recently re-watched Blakes' 7 while down recovering from surgery, and it has good stories. It has good stories probably because they didn't have to rely on the effects.
The new Doctor Who now has a good budget, but they have gotten over reliant on the imagery at times. All newer sci-fi has.
I'm looking forward to a new series (even if it is on SeeFee) and I hope they keep with the gritty, amoral feel they had in the old series. Better effects... sure, but it won't be any good without good writing.
Re:I'll miss the old school special effects (Score:5, Funny)
Around our house, we call SyFy "The Wrestling Channel". :)
Re:I'll miss the old school special effects (Score:4, Informative)
At my house, we call SyFy "the reason we cancelled the cable service"
Re:I'll miss the old school special effects (Score:5, Interesting)
" It has good stories probably because they didn't have to rely on the effects." ,it has a good story becasue it was written well. I could list many, many bad show that also didn't have effects.
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"The new Doctor Who now has a good budget, but they have gotten over reliant on the imagery at times. All newer sci-fi has."
yes, it was the over reliant of imagery that had my daughter crying, and me come down with a sudden case of 'hay fever' at the end of the pond story line.
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I wish I had seen more of the original. I would watch it one summer from the first episode, then go back to school and not see any of it until the next summer, and then the storyline was confusing since I had missed too much. Since then I haven't seen it rebroadcast anywhere.
Re:I'll miss the old school special effects (Score:4, Informative)
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Not likely.
The old Doctor Who had the occasional grim-and-gritty (the kind that made Question Time in Parliament complain about it). The new Who is full of "if you hope and feel hard enough, you can overcome alien technology, incomprehensible gods and the laws of physics". Even the last episode was proof enough of that.
I've met Gareth Thomas. I weep for Blake. The new Avon will probably look like Sheldon Cooper, Vila will be cool and Cally will probably be slutting up to everybody. Remember what Galactica's
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I'd love it if they keep:
1. The gritty, amoral feel and the 1984 style theme
2. The liberator, zen, orac and the liberator interior
3. Avon's witticisms (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0026780/quotes) and Servalan
4. The theme music
Actually you know what? Just keep the original. Recently, I watched everything up to the point where the liberator was destroyed (I can't stand the Scorpio), and I see no reason to remake it.
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Its actually a 70s show.
Avon is really the star of the show. The show got WAY better when they dumped Gaan (the big giant guy) and picked up ORAC.
Of course Villa was essential in the show as well.
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Since it seems to have gone over your head, I *was* making fun of the name.
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Well, there was a buzzing noise for all electric doors. Don't recall a whooshing sound, but in a spaceship it's reasonable to assume sections will acquire an air pressure differential.
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Well, there was a buzzing noise for all electric doors. Don't recall a whooshing sound, but in a spaceship it's reasonable to assume sections will acquire an air pressure differential.
Watch the video... it's just a door! Also, that bit is on Earth before the prisoners have been transferred.
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Pedant: That part is in Earth Dome, an artificial city where access to the surface is forbidden. It isn't unbelievable to assume that they have pressure differentials in there as well.
Of course, this is clutching at straws to explain a special effects failure but isn't that half the fun of watching sci-fi?
I wonder if they'll bring back the tight leather pants that were so close-fitting actors couldn't even sit down without assistance. And not just the female leads, either. Let's just say some costumes left
Re:I'll miss the old school special effects (Score:5, Interesting)
It is going to be interesting to see what SyFy does with it. A lot of their stuff lately is industrial fashion or magics, which does not really lend itself to Blake. Battlestar Galactica is more in line, but they even that included unnecessary magics. The social commentary in Blake is subtle and morality ambiguous, something that is hard to do on and American TV show.
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It'll probably be written so that Blake is always around as well, instead of the first and last series.
As to special effects, nothing beats a small Perspex box with a light rope in it to represent a supercomputer that was superior in every way to the "state of the art" Zen. The Liberator was the pride of the fleet until Blake nicked it.
News implies that it's recent right? (Score:3)
Cause if so, here's an article [zap2it.com] from August 2012, pretty much detailing the exact same thing ...
Either way, cool beans!
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The reason that I think it has come back up is that it the production company has just started marketing it to foreign channels. There was a press release I saw on it to that effect yesterday, and someone at the entertainment desks must have picked up on it.
There has been talk about this particular revival for a year and talks about revival going back a decade. Paul Darrow even owned the rights himself for a while but he fell out with his partner in the deal.
Bring back ORAC! (Score:5, Interesting)
The stuck-up, annoyingly smug computer. It's a billion times smarter than the rest of the crew put together, and doesn't try to hide it. A computer so obnoxious, most conversations ended with someone cutting the power to shut it up. I want to see ORAC again.
How many other computers, when asked if they can perform a video analysis task, announce they just did it - but won't share the result, considering such menial number-crunching beneath them?
Vila weighs 73 kilos, Avon. (Score:3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMxbqyz1VY8 [youtube.com]
Although I fully expect the US version to be as bad (or worse) than the US version of Red Dwarf.
Re:Vila weighs 73 kilos, Avon. (Score:5, Funny)
That is not possible. Nothing can be worse than the US version of Red Dwarf. I have a true love of BAD movies and TV, but even I had to shut off the US version of Red Dwarf less than 10 minutes in.
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That is not possible. Nothing can be worse than the US version of Red Dwarf.
US version of Top Gear, not to mention Australian version.
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That is not possible. Nothing can be worse than the US version of Red Dwarf.
US version of Top Gear, not to mention Australian version.
US version of 'Death at a Funeral'
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The U.S. version of Top Gear is entertaining. I do think it would've been better if the version with Adam Carolla had gone on though.
I'm not even a car person. Sure, it's scripted, but so is the original version.
Re:Vila weighs 73 kilos, Avon. (Score:5, Insightful)
I said it before and will say it again: The US is where Brit series go to die.
After I heard they wanted to do their very own The Prisoner I really wished for shades that go black when approached by danger. But they ruined that one, too.
This is a TV station that renamed themself from SciFi to SyFy cuz misspeeling ur ohn neme iz kool.
Shouldn't they be filming Fucktopus vs. Turdosaur or something?
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One.
Marvin.
With all the diodes down his left side aching.
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Marvin did what he was told. He just complained continuously about how underutilised he was. Brain the size of a planet.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48gH_v8ulLA [youtube.com]
Did you know Servalan sang a key section of a very famous album?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48gH_v8ulLA [youtube.com] Did you know Servalan sang a key section of a very famous album?
That is genius! Good find - well done!! :D
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Re:Bring back ORAC! (Score:5, Funny)
How many other computers, when asked if they can perform a video analysis task, announce they just did it - but won't share the result,
Stop reminding us about Widnows 8!
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To me the cool thing about ORAC is the way he works; his inventor was the designer of virtually all chips in use in the galaxy. He put a back door into them. ORAC has a subspace link to them.
But... (Score:5, Funny)
Will the remake have BRIAN BLESSED? Because if not, what's the point??
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When did that happen?
Wiki seems to think he is alive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Blessed [wikipedia.org]
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They left Basil Fawlty out of their version of Fawlty Towers for crying out loud! It will be horrible. Like an office christmas disco whithout the alcohol.
So please, please do not take Brian's name in vain.
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he's pining.
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To be fair, BRIAN BLESSED would be more sonorous dead than most people are alive.
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Blessed's ALIVE!!
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No, you misread. It's "Zombies eat brains". Not "Brians".
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his Blake's 7 character Vargas was beamed into space and exploded. Mr. Blessed is 76 but still doing occasional gigs.
Sci-fi on Syfy? (Score:5, Insightful)
Say it ain't so. I wonder when they'll squeeze this into the schedule between all the wrestling and other ratings-chasing dreck.
But we won't know if it's a true SciFi series until it gets unceremoniously cancelled for no good reason.
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I wonder when they'll squeeze this into the schedule between all the wrestling and other ratings-chasing dreck.
Every time I start to wonder if I should have the cable re-connected, somebody says something like this, and it reminds me of why I dropped that overpriced crapfest in the first place.
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Say it ain't so. I wonder when they'll squeeze this into the schedule between all the wrestling and other ratings-chasing dreck.
But we won't know if it's a true SciFi series until it gets unceremoniously cancelled for no good reason.
My latest guilty pleasure is on SyFy channel .. Robot Combat League [syfy.com]. Yes it is cheesy. Yes it has the typical reality show emphasis on personalities. Yes they overdo the pyrotechnics. Yes there is probably about 15 minutes tops of real footage in the hour long show (Ya Tivo!) . Yes the robots are all the same basic platform (Nascar of robotics?), but it is fun to watch 8 foot tall, 800 lb tele-operated robots walking around and arena and wailing into each other and spewing hydraulic fluid when valves a
Intermission (Score:2)
Wow, 13 hour long episodes!? I'm gonna need at least 2 bathroom breaks!
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And special guest stars that happen to be wrestlers... who'll have more acting talent than some of the main cast...
My emotions as I started reading... (Score:5, Interesting)
Classic BBC Sci-fi Series Blake's 7 To Return
*gasp!* *overwhelming joy*
On Syfy Channel
*neutral* "Oh...."
is to be remade
*anger* "... fuck!"
by Heroes writer
*rage* "NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!"
Maybe I should just import a Region 2 DVD player and the discs from the UK, since it looks like it never got released here in the US.
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Actually, maybe this new show will cause whoever has the rights to the original to try to cash in and release the original on DVD/BluRay in the U.S.
"Blake's 7" is the only other science fiction show I like almost as much as I like "Star Trek". Both have dud episodes, and with there being 52 eps of Blake's 7 airing weekly, I stopped watching at one point after I'd seen them all, then the next times I randomly caught an episode, I think I saw the same dud episode (they're stuck on a planet and 'monsters' tha
Well at least it's not more reality TV (Score:2)
I kind of like "Face Off" since the end-results they make are creative.
But beyond that, I'm not a fan of reality TV or wresting... which is what the channel is slowly filling up with.
So while part of me wants to say "Try making creative shows again" at least I'm content that it's not another reality series.
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Idea:
Combine Face Off with Pro Wrestling.
MONSTER BATTLE!
Summary by someone who never saw the original? (Score:4, Informative)
Here's hoping the special effects budget will be higher than for the original series!
No, no, no. What we should really be hoping for is that the effects budgets doesn't matter because the writing and characterisation will be so strong.
Still, an American remake of a popular British series - what [wikipedia.org] could [wikipedia.org] possibly [wikipedia.org] go [wikipedia.org] wrong [wikipedia.org]?
Re:Summary by someone who never saw the original? (Score:4, Insightful)
You're generally right, but the American version of Life on Mars wasn't bad on it's own merits, even if it was somehow not as good as the British version.
At least the cast was decent -- it seemed unusual to have Keitel, Mol, Imperioli all on a network TV series.
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UK Life on Mars tapped into the collective memory of at least two generations of Brits remembering how dismal life was for the average family in the 70s. The country was nearly bankrupt (UK was described as the "poor man of Europe"), inflation was in double figures, there were three day weeks (meaning less pay) because of electricity blackouts, rising unemployment, the Government in thrall of the trade unions calling strikes every other week, Brent crude prices (when oil was a major export revenue stream) w
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Life On Mars was great, had a good ending..
I'm one of the few defenders of the U.S. Coupling, since all but one of the 4 (?) episodes that aired were the exact same script as the original, and had at least decent acting. (The originals weren't the greatest actors in the world either.)
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Um...syfy...right (Score:2)
Anyone else getting the "Remaking it just so they can cancel another scifi show and replace it with even more wrestling?" vibe here?
Fool me 100 times (Score:3)
Talking about getting old TV shows back... SG:U (Score:3)
Personally, I'd rather they leave Blakes 7 alone, it was great for it's time. If anyone were to bring it back it should be the BBC, like they've done with Doctor Who.
As for other shows that should be back on TV there's Stargate Universe which was cruelly cancelled before its time. Why not help out to get it back on the air again via Netflix and sign the Change.org petition linked below. There's little point asking SyFy as they don't seem to know anything about science fiction anyway.
http://www.change.org/petitions/netflix-save-stargate-universe [change.org]
The other day there were 3000 signatures, today it's over 4000. With the help of Slashdot I reckon we could hit over 10K in no time. The target is 100K I think.
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It was great that the BBC brought back Dr Who but you have to admit that they've really taken a wrong turn with Matt Smith as the new Doctor and the episodes that I've seen lately have been silly. He just looks odd, sort of like Herman Munster without makeup and the writing is much more comedic than dramatic.
I always felt that the Tom Baker years was among the best of Dr Who and the stories and characterization of the Doctor were both inventive and dramatic, great science fiction.
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A lot of business is three months behind reality (Score:2)
But who will play Servalan? (Score:2)
One of the greatest SciFi villains of all time deserves a great actress (assuming no reboot sex change :) don't'cha think?
Amanda tapping Re:But who will play Servalan? (Score:2)
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Pilot online here... (Score:2)
I just watched the pilot episode of the original series on Youtube when it occurred to me that I'd never seen the beginning, only a few episodes here and there during it's original run in the 1980's.
It's here for anyone wanting to watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMjYChwuqMI [youtube.com]
Those were the days.. (Score:2)
Still got the fanzines from the original run.. Hopefully this time, they won't get a camera malfunction for the last scene in the whole series!
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Casting and writing will mke or break it! (Score:2)
I loved this series and it's still a constant frustration that it's not available on DVD here in the US, a friend of mine who took a trip to the UK did and managed to get me season 1.
There were many things to like about this series and a number of things I didn't like. Despite the special effects not being great this was made up for by the acting and the writing. The whole mystery of the Liberator and it's superior design and abilities were one of the major components of the first season and I felt that the
OK - possibly (Score:2)
Sounds like a great idea, and I have high confidence that the people responsible for such gems as "Crocosaurus VS. Robo Pirhana" will be able to do the original Blake's 7 justice.
great, just great (Score:2)
Blake's 7 was good 70s british sci-fi. it had crap special effects, but that really didn't matter (same as Dr Who before the recent BBC Wales reboot had the same crap special effects by pretty much the same team, but had much better stories - and far less dr-who-is-an-angsty-supernatural-action-hero crap)
I expect the remake will be trashy american magical fantasy with rayguns, just like almost all all american allegedly-"science fiction" TV & movies....anti-tech, anti-science, anti-intellectual garbage
This just in (Score:2)
Cervlan: Fran Drescher
Avon: Rick Astley
Stop me when you've had enough
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It's a weird tangent on the original storyline from "The Way Back," but part of that story WAS that his wife and family were taken away and he was just seeing them in "vids."
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Agreed - I think Blake's original backstory is more than good enough for today's audience. The "former soldier who's lost his wife" thing struck me as very odd, and very unnecessary.
However, the description of the reboot that I read did include the "escape while en route to a penal colony (Cygnus Alpha?)" and mention of an alien ship (Liberator.)
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I read that in the article, and immediately thought "what the fuck".
If he's not framed for something and on his way to a federation detention center, then count me out.
Are you kidding?
In the modern UK to suggest that someone might be FRAMED for child abuse could bring down society!
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Although the effects and the sets were fairly poor it wasn't at all bad in the story department.
I watched it again recently and was pleasantly surprised by how well it stands up.
I knew the actor that played Vila, and like the rest of the crew he was pretty good in his role, a great Shakespearean fool. Without his 'difficult' relationship with the computer expert Avon (and Orac) it wouldn't have been nearly as entertaining.
Not at all crappy sci fi, and imho, very good in the aspects of a programme that matte
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In one episode the two of them were in a shuttle that was just too heavy to make it back to their ship. After Avon threw out everything he could find ORAC informed him they still needed to shed 73 kilos, and "Villa weighs 70 kilos". The next scene has Avon walking through the ship, pistol in hand, calling Villa is light tones as if calling a dog for dinner.
Trek never came close.
Anot
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The set of people who watch SyFy have a lot of overlap with the set of people who thought Heroes had excellent writing.
What we really need on cable is a science fiction channel...
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Well, for starters, they can't even spell "wrestling" right...
Re:Funny You Should Mention This (Score:5, Funny)
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You have to admit that the final finale was brilliant, though. "You're going to bring us back for another season? Oh, I think not..."
Although it still has the possibility of Avon somehow ducking and letting the circular firing squad just shoot itself, but that's somewhat unlikely given the length of the barrage.
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It was a camera malfunction, according to the fanzine.. The fanfic of the time had Avon surviving.. And I think Villa too..
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There was a book followon/sequel called "Afterlife".
Also, IIRC (from the "Blake's 7 Programme Guide" book), that WASN'T intended as the series finale. Though I do think it was the best ever done.
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Want to see Harlan Ellison's original concept? Never made it to video, but you can get a graphic novel version. [amazon.com] There was also a novel that is long out of physical print; however, Amazon is offering a Kindle edition.
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I think of Starlost every time a series remake comes up.
There is a huge opportunity there. Get real money, actually WORK with Ellison and his original scripts, and you would have a great series.
Remake something with a strong concept that wasn't done right the first time. Even as screwy as it turned out it was often enjoyable to watch.
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I think you are asking for the impossible.
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Um,. no.
really, BLake 7 could not stand on it's own today. sure, 100,000 people might watch it, maybe 500,000 but it wouldn't be enough for broadcast.
Rehash it, and hopefully it will be good, if not the don't watch it. It's not like they are going to come to yorr house and steal your Blake 7 dvds.
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OK, bad example. I'll still take Tom Baker or Peter Davison over Matt Smith or David Tenant any day of the week.
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Brain of Morbius, 1976
Morbius, looking at the Doctor: "What a magnificent head!"
Tom Baker as the Doctor: "Really? Most people still prefer the old grey model."
I saw that one for the first time last year since it was banned from broadcast in my country in 1976!
Peter Davison suffered from a BBC policy of "Doctor Who is not serious enough - remove the jokes!", and could not put in the sort of perf
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I have lots of complaints about the switch from SciFi to SyFy. Revamping a classic series isn't one of them. I mean, really, they've only revamped one that I know of prior to this (BSG).
The Battlestar Galactica show was pretty solid. Sure, it was either "love it or hate it" but a lot of people liked it. Sure, it wasn't the same as the old one... but it had moments.
My biggest complaint is with the brand change, they have been dropping home-brewed science fiction series and favoring reality shows + wresti
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It does not matter what the budget would be. If SyFy is involved, it will be complete and utter SHIT. Sorry, that is just a fact of life.
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and main characters got killed, quite often. humans did not live in original star-trek utopia, but lived in dystopia ruled by power and money grubbing hedonist scum (same shit, different century). main characters were not heros but dirtbag anti-heros.
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Rumor mill has it they asked Paul Darrow to come back, and when he found out it was on SyFy he responded "I am not expendable, I am not stupid, and I am not going!"
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Without a doubt, this will be the hardest roll to fill and the most essential.
Paul Darrow was amazing in the role, I believe he was once quoted as saying "I decided to play the role as Dirty Harry to the max" (or something to that effect) and his character and portrayal made the show.