Blockbuster To Close Remaining US Locations 419
UnknowingFool writes "Blockbuster announced that it will close its remaining 300 U.S. locations by January and discontinue the DVD by mail service. Before being bought out by Dish, the chain was slowly closing locations. Dish's CEO said, 'This is not an easy decision, yet consumer demand is clearly moving to digital distribution of video entertainment.' From an all-time high of 9,000 locations in 2004, the chain has fallen on hard times and had emerged from bankruptcy in 2011."
Wait, what? (Score:5, Funny)
Blockbuster still exists?
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Same here. Someone mentioned their local Blockbuster was closing a few weeks ago, and I thought I'd fallen through a time-warp.
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I drive by a Blockbuster everyday I hadn't thought about it but I never see cars there and just went to their site to look it up on their store locater apparently it's already closed.
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The one near me actually had cars. There were always several cars in the lot. As the only video rental in the area that made sense. Now it's closed though but not because it reached zero customers but because there were not enough customers to support maintaining the business versus selling off the building.
This also does not mean ALL video stores are closing; just the Blockbuster stores. If you drive around you will find video stores scattered around, especially in poorer areas of cities, as well as th
Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Funny)
[spoiler] In the climax of the movie our hero returns the movie the next day and purchases a soda and bag of pretzels from the adjacent vending machines to celebrate the $2 he just saved. [/spoiler]
Re:Wait, what? (Score:5, Interesting)
Their business model was morbidly flawed; they started renting movies when tapes cost over a hundred dollars each, so four bucks to rent one wasn't a bad deal. But then tapes (and later DVDs) came down in price, Blockbuster's competitors had prices down to a buck a tape/DVD and Blockbuster acted like they held a monopoly. Hell, there used to be a Blockbuster right across from Family Video on 6th street here, with FamVid DVDs at $1 and Blockbuster DVDs at $4 and you could often BUY the DVD Blockbuster was renting for $4 at WalMart for $5.
Meanwhile, there are still dozens of Family Video stores here in town, as well as lots of RedBox kiosks. Blockbuster was greedy to the point of mental retardation. No way can you rent a $5 or $10 or even $20 item for $4.
Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Interesting)
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They closed a lot of stores, but many still remained.
Until now. [queue the dramatic music]
Blockbuster UK just went under for the 2nd time... (Score:3)
They closed a lot of stores, but many still remained. Until now.
Ironically, this mirrors the situation with the UK chain which just went bankrupt for the *second* time a little over a week ago, having first gone under in January and closed a number of shops. (I assume it was a legally separate and/or spun-off business of the US parent before it first went bankrupt, as this seems to have happened independent of the troubles of the US Blockbuster).
I've no idea if any stores will remain open this time, but given that there was no obvious future for the chain when they *f
Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Funny)
Gaaaah!
[sound of head literally exploding]
I got a nice restaurant ... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I got a nice restaurant ... (Score:4, Funny)
An entire archeological strata made up of nothing but ATM cards, and above it... nothing"
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I for one, say good riddance. Would rather pay 50% more than to EVER set foot in one of their stores again. Poor customer service and excessive late fees drove them into the ground as much as competition did.
Maybe we will get a good Thai restaurant in that old Blockbuster location.......one can hope!
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Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Think Rural. Get out in the sticks where your max internet speed is still 56k (and that's most of the country) and DVDs suddenly become useful again. I have a feeling that people in the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington state, etc... are going to be irritated the most by this.
Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Interesting)
Here in the midwestern US we have Family Video, which at one time also had pretty decent dialup service. All the local Family Video stores I'm aware of are still open, have free titles, rent most stock for $1 and have a porn section. As the last chain standing I'd say they did it right. I've been an eight-DVDs-at-a-time Netflix subscriber since 1999 but I'm glad the local brick and mortar store (not vending machine) is around. Sometime it's nice to just browse.
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What really pisses me off right now is that Netflix is slowly killing their DVD business. Half the titles in my queue have become "short wait" this year, as Netflix stops buying replacements for broken discs. Very disappointing - I really like their DVD service.
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I've had a number of minor titles in my queue go to the "Saved" category with availability unknown, and ironically a couple that have done that but become available streaming.
I'm not sure what drives the discs that were available that became unavailable, especially considering the number of discs that appear to be custom duplications for Netflix. I can only assume a disc that goes unavailable is out of print and Netflix does not have the rights to do a custom rental pressing.
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About time (Score:5, Funny)
Re:About time (Score:5, Funny)
The courier was afraid to go into the store. He had a VHS that was late.
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Yeah, one day you can tell your grandkids about what it was like to get DVD/blu-ray extra features like commentary tracks and making-of featurettes, and what it was like to watch a movie without seeing "Buffering" messages and heavy compression artifacts. Yep, streaming is so superior to those ancient physical discs alright.
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I have not seen a buffering message in years. I have no interest in commentary tracks and the making of BS, but those are available more and more. The compression artifacts I see are far less noticeable than on cable TV.
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No, but my experience likely is similar to most people who leave near (within 500 miles) either coast. Which is most Americans.
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what it was like to watch a movie without seeing "Buffering" messages and heavy compression artifacts. Yep, streaming is so superior to those ancient physical discs alright.
Not to worry, your local cable company owned movie provider will have good quality streaming service which will not count towards your regular bandwidth cap.
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never had this problem with apple tv or streaming Vudu to my blu ray player
if you stream over compressed pirated copies, that's your problem. i watch them too and buy some on blu ray since the sound is screwed up on the pirated copies
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DVD quality is terrible. I don't have a blu-ray player. I may never.
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DVD quality is terrible.
Compared to what?
Re:About time (Score:5, Informative)
The analog perfection that is VHS. Obviously.
Seriously though, most DVDs and BluRays are absolute shitty encodes. Combine that with low-end equipment and you have overall poor quality with very visible artifacts like the infamous waterfall effect. I almost have a seizure watching Voyager on Netflix. That damn background in the medical bay is a wonderful example of such limitations.
That's what you get with modern digital video formats. It allows for poorer performance and artifacts with lossy compression and non-perfect display software that has no problems fucking a frame or too or going half ass on the decode. Well mastered DVD/BluRay on appropriate equipment does not have this problem though. Unfortunately for most you are not going to find that at Walmart.
So when you compare a DVD version against a VHS it's easy to see the lack of digital artifacts as an "improvement". Fuck. Compare it to LaserDisc? No competition at all. LaserDisc is still unreal compared to DVD. It took BluRay on high end equipment to finally beat LaserDisc. Stats may say otherwise, but real world performance is the best metric.
Tl;DR : Not all DVD/BluRay masters are the same and the low end makes VHS look good by comparison.
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What exactly is more convenient than picking up the TV remote and selecting the next video to play?
How in the hell are DVDs cheaper than a flat $7.99/month?
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How in the hell are DVDs cheaper than a flat $7.99/month?
They're not. But that's apples and oranges. When I walk into Blockbuster, I can be pretty sure that they'll have every new release out. When I go to Netflix, I can be pretty sure that all they'll have is a relatively weak selection of older stuff. A more apt comparison would be to Amazon's rental feature, where I can rent a new-release HD streaming feature (with a decent selection to choose from) for the same price as I can rent it on blu-ray from Blockbuster--only sans any special features and with noticea
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Fine so call it $16/month and now netflix will mail you DVDs as well.
They actually have some new movies and lots of fairly new TV shows. Hell, I don't have cable so it's all new to me.
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it must be nice to be able to plan for watching a movie in advance...
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How in the hell are DVDs cheaper than a flat $7.99/month?
DVDs *are* a flat $7.99 a month. [netflix.com]
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Yup.
I would have an internet connection no matter what, and I don't pay for using it.
Telegraph was the first "Internet" (Score:2)
The telegraphs main problem was its small bandwidth of 10 or so bits a second.
A few are still around (Score:2)
My sister still likes going to the store and browsing. This is crazy to me.
Re:A few are still around (Score:5, Insightful)
My sister still likes going to the store and browsing.
"Digital delivery" for which the market has spoken does not work in combination with crappy (monopolistic and sometimes transfer-capped) internet.
Having a near-by rental store had its benefits.
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Maybe mom-and-pop video rental stores will make a comeback (at least in some communities where you can't get decent broadband).
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Re:A few are still around (Score:4, Insightful)
The problem is that the selection on Netflix sucks balls. And I say that as someone who has had their streaming service from day one. Netflix streaming is great when you're content to watch whatever they happen to have at the moment (mostly older stuff). It sucks when you want to watch a specific movie.
Really sucks (Score:5, Interesting)
I loved going in and buying the used flikcks; sometimes 4 DVDs for $20 or 2 Blurays for $20. I built up a nice physical collection which I much prefer to just files. If they shut down any local stores I'll make a point to be there early for the sell-off day.
I guess I'm in that minority that likes the in-store experience and browsing shelves rather than clunky cable box UIs.
Re:Really sucks (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm with you on this one.
I still buy CDs and BluRay disks by going to the store and looking at what's there. I prefer to have the physical thing, instead of some digital thing they can decide on a whim I no longer 'own' and can no longer use.
Admittedly, I haven't rented a movie in years ... but I'm certainly not paying to rent it on-line and then pay my ISP for the bandwidth needed to stream it.
I'm definitely not prepared to give up physical media.
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You have to remember that for a growing number of people this replaces cable TV. I don't rent anything, I just pay Netflix ~$20, they mail me DVDs and I watch whatever they have on streaming. So I replaced cable for a fraction of the cost.
My ISP charges the same if I use my connection or not.
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yup still own my house too, and a couple i rent out and make money on... i guess i am a content provider :)
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Nothing close to the deals BB had. Remember when a new movie came out and they had literally a WALL filled with new copies of that movie to rent? Well, all those copies were sold off. So, a couple weeks/ months after a new movie hit DVD, you could buy it for $5-10 instead of renting an electronic copy for the same.
Now, if I'm looking for an older movie, I might find a good one in the bargain bin at Walmart.
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That's what's even worse about the whole situation. BB ran a lot of family video shops out of town. Now, they've gone under as well.
does everyone REALLY have IP-connected TV? (Score:3)
I realise I live in an 18th century house with '70s heating system and am dripping in Old Money, which means I have the best money could buy... 30-300 years ago, but have people really moved on that quickly that everyone today has an IP-connected TV in their living room with which to watch films?
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For the most part yes, or they have an HTPC\IP set top box, or a tablet, or a laptop.
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But watching a movie on a tablet or a laptop is a horrific experience.
Admittedly, I was born in a house with an attic which my uncle had turned into a proper home cinema... took the furnishings from a derelict movie theatre, even. I just can't imagine immersing myself in a 15" screen.
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Not really, I do it all the time waiting for Drs and the like.
You can get a $35 box to connect to anything with HDMI to do this.
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For big summer action movies or certain dramas, sure, a tablet won't be as great as the theater. But for most comedies and such, a tablet is no worse than a 27" CRT screen and a VHS from 15 feet away, like we were all used to in the 90s.
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For example, my wife sleeps before I do, but she likes to fall asleep next to me. A tablet on the nightstand lets me watch a TV show wit
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Yes, or they own a $35 machine that plugs into the TV for this purpose.
Re:does everyone REALLY have IP-connected TV? (Score:4, Informative)
IP is not the reason why BB died.
Netflix was hammering it from above with a deeper catalog and a reasonable price structure. Redbox was hammering it from below offering cheaper rentals on the new releases. That gave BB a very thin environment to live in.
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OK, that makes sense... I haven't been in the US for a few years, and didn't know which alternatives had taken over.
The UK has lots of subscription rental services by mail, but that's not the same as being able to PAYG rent a movie same day.
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It's only going to get easier and easier for people to ditch their old-school ways.
A large segment of the market is not using the TV (Score:4, Insightful)
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My son watches Netflix on his cell phone... talk about a tiny screen.
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An "IP-connected" TV is just 44 dollars away. [amazon.com]
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i just bought a $99 smart 3d blu ray player from best buy. it does netflix, amazon, vudu, cinemanow and flixster along with dozens of other services and porn
i also have an apple tv
before that i used to own all three consoles from the last gen that streamed netflix and other services
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Oh, and it plays games too. Civ 5 in the living room FTW.
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No, I have a computer in the living room plugged into the TV and stereo.
And now with Raspberry Pi's and those little Android HDMI plugs wandering around setting up a living room computer is even cheaper.
I wouldn't get a Smart TV.
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What TV is it? Because for that price I find that pretty surprising. Even the $850 LG 60"s have netflix.
The Reasons (Score:5, Insightful)
Dish's CEO said, 'This is not an easy decision, yet consumer demand is clearly moving to digital distribution of video entertainment.'
Oh, sure, blame it all on the consumers!
Let's be realistic here: Yes, increasing consumer demand for instant gratification is part of the video stores downfall, but they're experiencing an equal amount of pressure from the content cartels, who have spent years trying inadvertently (or intentionally) to kill off the rental industry with their obsession over controlling how consumers can access media.
Content cartels... like Dish Network.
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To be part of the content cartel you have to produce content. Dish does not produce content.
Anyway maybe now they can add Netflix/Hulu/... to their receivers
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To be part of the content cartel you have to produce content.
Not necessarily - one could also just own the rights to a metric shit tonne of content.
Of course, you know what this means (Score:2)
That sucks (Score:2)
I actually still like to go to one near my house. Call me old-fashioned, but I still like physically browsing, getting (some, not many these days) extras, and the better video quality of blu-ray over streaming.
Netflix was a reason but not the only reason (Score:5, Interesting)
It would be easy to say that Netflix killed Blockbuster, and certainly Blockbuster inflicted harm on themselves. Netflix did play a part but Blockbuster's problems come from a business model that came under threat from multiple fronts.
Netflix challenged Blockbuster by offering both instant streaming and titles by mail services but mainly in older titles and TV shows. Blockbuster still had an advantage for consumers in new releases.
Unfortunately, the rise of VOD competitors like Apple's iTunes, Amazon Instant, VUDU, Microsoft, etc offered consumers better choices when it came to new releases and offered advantages over Blockbuster. Even at the same price of a Blockbuster rental, consumers didn't have to physically get and return the title. Stock was never a problem, and the catalogs were better than a consumer could get at a Blockbuster's location.
For consumers that could not stream video, Redbox has taken away the last advantage of Blockbuster. The prices are cheaper and even if the selection is as limited as a Blockbuster location, there are far more Redbox locations. Since Redbox's model allows rentals to be returned to any location, this means the death of Blockbuster in many locations.
re: Redbox (Score:2)
Yes, I believe Redbox basically built itself a monopoly on the rental kiosks, for that matter. There were several independent firms selling vending kiosks (such as "DVDNow" systems) but everything I've read from people maintaining them says it's little more than a break-even proposition at best.
The companies offering the independent kiosks try to profit off monthly fees charged for such things as fresh artwork designed to put on the kiosks to advertise the current offerings for rent, and for the bar-coded l
Re:Netflix was a reason but not the only reason (Score:4, Insightful)
It would be easy to say that Netflix killed Blockbuster, and certainly Blockbuster inflicted harm on themselves. Netflix did play a part but Blockbuster's problems come from a business model that came under threat from multiple fronts. [..] Even at the same price of a Blockbuster rental, [VOD] consumers didn't have to physically get and return the title.
This is true, but there's one important factor everyone missed (and I overlooked myself in the past until someone mentioned it)- the falling cost of DVDs over the past decade has often made it barely cheaper to rent instead of buy. With box sets, it's usually a no brainer- the equivalent cost of each disc is frequently below what most places would bother charging for rental.
To be fair, this is less the case for the new-release blockbuster DVDs which Blockbuster specialise in (apparently, I'm never in there myself), as those tend to be still quite expensive when new. Even so, nowdays it's surprising how fast the retail price falls after this.
Prerecorded videotapes were apparently massively expensive in the late 70s and early 80s, and even when prices on retail tapes had fallen it still made sense to rent if you were only going to watch it once. Nowadays? Not so much, if at all.
independent video rental? (Score:5, Interesting)
Blockbuster pushed out many of the independent video rental places. I wonder if some of them will make a come back, to fill what ever niche there will be for renting physical videos. Or maybe that niche just won't exist anymore.
That's sad (Score:4, Insightful)
I always find it difficult to understand the mentality of those cheering and saying good riddance that a long time business [even former giants of the industry] has failed.
Hey, it could be your workplace next.
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Hey, it could be your workplace next.
If only.
LOL WUT? (Score:2)
Um, I've been through enough M & As to know that businesses blow out all the time. I could care less, because it just means my commute and officemate wage slaves are going to change.
Whenever I get the memo that we're merging with someone else, that's when I start updating the resume and putting out feelers.
If I time it right, I can pick up the earlybird package before I leave for my next job, but if not, that's okay. The important thing is to get out before the
Digital? (Score:2)
The final nail in the coffin... (Score:2)
Reasons to be bitter (Score:3)
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Re:Ding dong the witch is dead! (Score:4, Informative)
nonsense, they were success in early 80s. that business model was what every VHS shop had, except BlockBuster's rates were lower, they had more of the popular movies and the fine was nominal.
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nonsense, they were success in early 80s. that business model was what every VHS shop had, except BlockBuster's rates were lower, they had more of the popular movies and the fine was nominal.
Except of course, unless they fined you for the hell of it even when you turned in the movie on time.
I stopped going to Blockbuster after they did that to me, and they lost a class-action lawsuit over the issue a few years later. They didn't exactly build consumer loyalty.
But really it was Netflix's DVD-by-mail that killed video stores for me.
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For some reason, I suspect that was the beginning of the end.
That wasn't a model you could use by mail.
Driving just for video seems unusual (Score:3)
Others were located in shopping centers that people were driving to or driving by anyway. Over the decades I don't think I made many special trips to the video store. The resources argument seems to be a red herring.
That said, its an obsolete business model. Mine turned into a nice restaurant, something far more useful these day
Re:Driving just for video seems unusual (Score:4, Informative)
We'll still drive to get videos from time to time. Of course, when we do this, we're headed to our local library where we rent them for free. (Technically not free since we're paying taxes to support the library, but we'd pay those taxes anyway so it's effectively free.) Our library has a surprisingly good selection and if they don't have what you're looking for, you can request it form another branch.
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What's stopping you from hooking up a computer or Roku to the big-screen?
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Or you could be a big spender and buy a $80 blu-ray player and get the best quality of all.
Re: Sad times (Score:2)
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How does waiting a long time, driving to a store, and returning a disk beat pressing play?
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I would call 24+ hours to get your movie a hell of a long buffer.
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I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
My TV does not have a camera.
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Oh noes netflix knows what programs I watched! The horror, the horror. Yeah your tinfoil hat is on way too tight.
All they can do with that data is use it to figure out what to recommend.
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And Netflix loves to send their version of the DVD that has all the cool extras stripped out.
No, I think it sticks in their craw and chokes them just a little, because those stripped down "for rental only" discs were forced on them by the content providers. I think Netflix would prefer to send the full retail versions.