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Disney Turned Down George Lucas's Star Wars Scripts 422

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ageoffri writes: When Star Wars fans learned that George Lucas was making the prequels, most were filled with excitement and anticipation. When Episodes 1-3 were actually released, many found them unsatisfying, and became disillusioned with Lucas's writing. Now, it appears Disney felt the same way. Though they bought Lucasfilm and began production on Episode 7, they weren't interested in using the scripts Lucas had already worked on. In an interview, he said, "The ones that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn't really want to do those. So they made up their own. So it's not the ones that I originally wrote [on screen in Star Wars: The Force Awakens]." After what happened with the prequels, that may be for the best — but others may worry about Episode 7's plot being entirely in the hands of Disney and JJ Abrams.
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  • Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

    by slapout ( 93640 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:25PM (#48886443)

    As long as the plot's NOT in Lucas's hands, I'm happy.

    • Re:Good news (Score:5, Funny)

      by Austerity Empowers ( 669817 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:29PM (#48886507)

      Statements like that one unfortunately lives to regret. Lucas dropped the ball on the prequels, but I'm pretty sure JJ got hit in the head once with the ball and suffered long term damage.

      • Re:Good news (Score:5, Funny)

        by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:38PM (#48886619) Journal


        That explains why there is so much lens flare in his movies. He's trying to recreate what he sees every day.

        • IMO they should just have Quentin Tarantino do Star Wars. We could finally have the glorious final showdown involving JarJar that everybody has been waiting for since he first showed his annoying face in episode 1.

          Though this is Disney now...hmm...I wonder how a Quentin Tarantino Disney film would look.

      • Re:Good news (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Grishnakh ( 216268 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:40PM (#48886633)

        Yeah, at first the idea of Lucas's script not being used sounds great. But then you have to just remember how awful JJ's Star Trek movies were.

        Honestly, I don't see this working out well at all. The movies would have sucked in Lucas's hands, and they're going to suck in JJ's hands. They should have hired Joss Whedon to do them instead. Or maybe James Cameron (though he probably wouldn't have been interested).

        • They cured my acme, the cancer patient said..... (Score:5, Insightful)

          by TiggertheMad ( 556308 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:19PM (#48887037) Journal
          But then you have to just remember how awful JJ's Star Trek movies were.

          Some people have this opinion, but I think if you took a survey, most would agree with the statement that Episode 1-3 was much worse than The ST reboot. I'll take whatever JJ has in store after more of Lucas's awful writing.

        • Re:Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

          by omnichad ( 1198475 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:29PM (#48887149) Homepage

          JJ is a fan of Star Wars, not Star Trek. He was even quoted as saying he didn't want to direct Star Wars because "I’d rather be in the audience not knowing what was coming, rather than being involved in the minutiae of making them.”

          Then again, M. Night Shyamalan was a fan of Avatar: The Last Airbender and we all know how that turned out.

        • Yeah, at first the idea of Lucas's script not being used sounds great. But then you have to just remember how awful JJ's Star Trek movies were.

          Those were Star Trek movies? All this time I thought I was watching Star Wars. That explains why Sulu's light saber was made out of metal.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by bluefoxlucid ( 723572 )

        It obviously won't really be Star Wars; it won't be the story Lucas wants to tell, and will instead be some sort of mass Hollywood shoveled shit designed to appeal to the modal average and draw in dollars.

        Lucas did an okay job with the prequels. Arguably, he did too good of a job: the players are all too human, and Jar-Jar is too fluid and well-executed for the movie. It clashes with expectations: people want textbook epic heroes and villains played the way modern, bland actors portray them, not comple

        • Re:Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

          by JeffAtl ( 1737988 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:49PM (#48886741)

          George, no amount of astroturfing is going to convince anyone that the prequels were good or even tolerable. You should have at least hired someone who knew who to write passable dialog.

          You were good when you first started off, but now you've been blinded by your own success.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by kylemonger ( 686302 )
          I agree. IMO the complaints about the prequels were fueled primarily by nostalgia about the original movies, remembering the delight of seeing them as a child. I rewatched the original trilogy as an adult and wasn't nearly so enchanted. That shouldn't be surprising. These are all children's movies; we grew up. Lucas' movies didn't change so much as we did.

          • Re:Good news (Score:5, Interesting)

            by Firethorn ( 177587 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:57PM (#48886835) Homepage Journal

            I think that Lucas's plots aren't bad. I think the problem became one of what many extremely successful writers and directors suffer from - lack of effective editorial control.

            Robert Jordan's books declined when he switched to having his wife be his primary editor - she just wasn't mean enough, if that makes sense. During the prequels Lucas ended up with a bunch of yes-men that agreed with every inane idea he had. Without that he'd have a better product.

            • Re:Good news (Score:5, Interesting)

              by Chalnoth ( 1334923 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @04:17PM (#48888215)

              In large part, I think Harrison Ford really carried the first trilogy. After I'd learned that Ford improvised a number of his lines, I watched the trilogy again and noticed just how wooden and dead nearly all of the other characters in the movies were.

              I do think that this trilogy stands a much better chance as long as Lucas isn't writing the dialog. He's okay, I think, as far as overall plot is concerned. But dialog and characters really aren't his strong suit.

              As for Abrams, his main problem, it seems to me, is that he seems to focus a bit over-much on action sequences. But Star Wars works pretty well with that, so I'm not too concerned. I think it might work fairly well.

          • this^

            Nostalgia for the things we found fascinating when we were teens sets a bar that can rarely be exceeded

            Just wait twenty years for all the complaining about how the 10th Transformer's movie will never live up to the first one, what with all of the stunning dialog and pacing of the first one

            Foggy memories and the halo of nostalgia have a way of turning crap into gold

          • Re:Good news (Score:5, Interesting)

            by Shadow of Eternity ( 795165 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:04PM (#48886891)

            I rewatched the original trilogy as an adult too and found it to mop the floor with the prequels. The difference is I watched the ACTUAL originals and not whatever even-more-slapstick-and-bad-editing version they're selling now.

          • Re:Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

            by jedidiah ( 1196 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:05PM (#48886899) Homepage

            Bullsh*t.

            I remember the original release of Star Wars. It had a wide appeal even to non-child audiences. While it was a somewhat "childish" concept, Lucas did not treat it in childish manner.

            I knew adults that liked Star Wars as much as I did. One couple I knew even had some of the original action figures on display in their living room.

            That's in stark contrast to the prequels that managed to bomb with my own kid.

            Pandering to kids is ultimately selling them short. It's also likely to annoy adults in the audience. Trying to pretend you understand the mind of kids is likely folly. Just having fun yourself is probably a lot easier and more effective.

          • I think The Empire Strikes Back still stands up very well. I agree the other two don't have the same magic they once held, but Episode V, which, ironically, had the least involvement from Lucas of the original six films, is extremely well plotted, with better dialog and much more convincing acting. The only thing that comes close to Episode V is the final confrontation between Luke, Vader and the Emperor in RotJ. Unfortunately, that's only a handful of scenes in an otherwise mediocre film.

          • Re:Good news (Score:5, Informative)

            by Lord Crc ( 151920 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:54PM (#48887405)

            Have you seen Mr Plinkett[1] pick the originals apart? While the presentation is a bit weird, though funny if you like that kind of thing, his points are spot on and overall does a very good job of explaining why the originals were considerably better than the prequels.

            [1] http://redlettermedia.com/plin... [redlettermedia.com]

          • Re:Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

            by luis_a_espinal ( 1810296 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @03:10PM (#48887529)

            I agree. IMO the complaints about the prequels were fueled primarily by nostalgia about the original movies, remembering the delight of seeing them as a child.

            Bro. Phantom Menace. Jar Jar Binks. Droids controlled from a single point of failure (even my non-technically inclined friends were like "wtf is that?"). You can't explain the hate of that away just by mere childhood nostalgia. That crap was awful in an absolute sense.

            I rewatched the original trilogy as an adult and wasn't nearly so enchanted.

            And neither was I (sans RoTJ).

            That shouldn't be surprising. These are all children's movies; we grew up. Lucas' movies didn't change so much as we did.

            Sorry, no. Phantom Menace can't be explained away. The Clone Wars and Revenge of the Sith were watchable as they portrayed Anakin's fall (sans the lingering doopey-doopey romance between emo-Anakin and hot-Amigdala and a whole bunch of other crap.)

            But Phanton Menace was some utter crap that stained the other two, and Jar Jar Binks is like the dog turd that stains the sole of your shoe that doesn't come out no matter how much you scrape it on the grass.

            You can't explain the utter fail of that to mere childhood nostalgia. You are crazy.

        • It obviously won't really be Star Wars; it won't be the story Lucas wants to tell, and will instead be some sort of mass Hollywood shoveled shit designed to appeal to the modal average and draw in dollars.

          Indeed, it's hard to see how this will be different than Star Trek, or Transformers.....

          The dialog in the three prequels was not the best, but from a story perspective, can you imagine JJ Abrams even attempting to write the story of a nice kid becoming an evil dictator? Then turning it around to show he wasn't pure evil?

          Hopefully Lucas will release his proposed scripts.

    • It's not. He's not involved and he doesn't own Star Wars anymore.

      • He'll always be involved. Even if he doesn't participate in the making, he'll be the first person everyone asks when the new one comes out and his opinion is going to carry a lot of weight.

        Notice that Next Gen only really started getting good after Roddenberry died, and DS9, being the best Trek series ever*, was flatly impossible as long as he was alive. Even when these people are out of the loop, they are the "author" in the public mind and have a lot of clout.

        * I dare you, come at me!

    • Abrams will do Star Wars way better than he did Star Trek.
      • Star Wars 'ethos' is front and center via the Force, so its harder for JJ to lens flare away the central theme of the story (balance of Light and Dark). Star Trek's story of humans becoming extraordinary humans for its own sake is completely lost. There is no 'hope' in JJ's Star Trek, and its a shame.

        • I suspect that Abrams is going to be given significantly less latitude to play around with the basic concepts. For Star Wars I think he was given carte blanche to do whatever was necessary to revive what Berman and Braga had driven into the ground. I find the results appalling, but the movies have been hits, so mission accomplished.

          But Star Wars, even the pretty dismal prequels, has a certain cinematographic vocabulary, heavily influenced by Kurosawa. At times, the vocabulary was about the only thing that m

        • If it would have some story, plot and action, I would definitely watch it.

          The problem is that most Star Wars fans (ditto Star Trek fans) want more of the same, being stuck in the loop of few memorable characters and few distinct fetishes of the original show. Change the characters and/or the fetishes - and it becomes a different show. And fans will not accept it.

          That's why IMO JJ should just ignore the fans altogether and concentrate on making a "good movie", not a "good Star Wars movie".

        • Re: Good news (Score:4, Informative)

          by neilo_1701D ( 2765337 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @03:02PM (#48887481)

          Star Wars 'ethos' is front and center via the Force, so its harder for JJ to lens flare away the central theme of the story (balance of Light and Dark).

          Lightsaber battles with lens flares. Lots of lightsaber battles. And put lens flares on the lightsabre exhaust ports. And the X-Wings speeding over the water; those water droplets surely must interact with light to cause lens flares.

          'nuff said.

      • Low bar.

    • Re:Good news (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:45PM (#48886691) Journal

      His plots aren't all that bad. His screenplay (especially dialog) is weak, and his directing is of a very specific style that only works with certain kinds of actors. It is both those things that hurt the prequels.

      As far as directing, Lucas is a hands-off director. He doesn't give the actors feedback or direction - he expects them to bring the characters to life and flush out the nuances on his own. So what he'd do is shoot a scene over and over, even though the actors thought they got it perfectly right, until some nuance or personality came out that seemed more natural and unique. He always said he did his directing in the editing room - but to do that he needed a big pool of material to work with to pull the good stuff out of. With Hamill, Fisher and Ford, they had the talent, energy and personality to simply bring the characters to life. Do you think we liked Han Solo so well because Lucas directed Ford to be that exact character? Or Princess Leia being such a strong female lead and showing playful disdain in the harsh tone of her voice towards Solo? Lucus just stepped back and let them create.

      That directorial style worked well in American Graffiti too. Like the liquor store scene. The robber leaves the store and throws the bottle of liquor to Terry. They shot it over and over, and every time he caught it perfectly. Until finally, he turned around too late and just barely caught it with the tips of his fingers. That was what Lucas was waiting for, and that's what made it in the movie. At the very beginning, where Terry runs his Vespa over the curb and hit the wall - total accident, but Lucas kept the cameras rolling and that made it into the movie.

      So when it comes to most kids, like Jake Lloyd, they NEED coaching and prompting and directed. I strongly believe that Jake Lloyd was awful in Phantom Menace because of Lucas' directing style. When I watch him in other movies, like Jingle All the Way, I'm reminded that he was pretty talented for his age - Lucas just didn't bring that out because he just sits back and watches with no obvious emotion or constructive feedback.

      • Re:Good news (Score:5, Insightful)

        by iluvcapra ( 782887 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:16PM (#48887011)

        His plots aren't all that bad.

        Ah, I'd direct you to the writings of Harry Plinkett on that question. It's not just the plot holes, but really fundamental aspects of the prequel films: what is the Trade Federation, why are the blockading, what is the Republic exactly (The queen of Naboo is elected, but the senator of Naboo is appointed?), what is the fundamental cause of the rebellion, what exactly are the Jedi... These reflect on Lucas's really fundamental cynicism, and his inability to write characters as if they're intelligent agents that know what's going on, and his lack of faith in the audience to think about any of this stuff critically.

        The first trilogy managed to keep all these balls in the air, but he didn't write those. George's writing work isn't really represented in any of the original Star Wars films. Larry Kasdan wrote V and VI, and though George's name is on the first one, he had a ton of help from Hal Barwood, Matthew Robbins, Will Huyck, Gloria Katz, Alec Guinness, de Palma, Spielberg and many, many others, who he failed to credit.

        I dunno, he had a great original concept -- Flash Gordon meets World War II genre films -- and he saw it through to the conclusion, and he was the central person in those early films, but all the good stuff happened when he got out of the way and let the actors, Gary Kurtz, John Dykstra, John Williams and his wife Marcia do their magic. At some point in the 80s, after he banished Marcia and Gary and surrounded himself with sycophants, George must have thoroughly convinced himself that he did everything himself.

        He doesn't give the actors feedback or direction - he expects them to bring the characters to life and flush out the nuances on his own.

        Note that Michael Bay is known for this as well, and the results are very different. Not good, but different.

        I strongly believe that Jake Lloyd was awful in Phantom Menace because of Lucas' directing style.

        Jake Lloyd was terrible because George Lucas, himself, didn't know what Anakin was supposed to be or represent, what it was like to be him, what it meant to be a slave on Tatooine, or any of that. The character has no purpose in the movie but to establish that Anakin exists. Even if George were a "hands on" director, he wouldn't have had the slightest idea what to tell him. "Just sit in the cockpit while the battle happens."

  • Since there's less canon to violate than Trek, and it's not a reboot... maybe?
    • As long as they promise me emphatically that this isn't all a dream or that they are all already dead, and then in episode 9 it turns out that they all were dead, then this will have fulfilled my expectations.
    • It is a reboot, actually, since they completely wiped all of the post-ep6 canon (Expanded Universe) and are starting from scratch. Different kind of reboot as the originating universe is the same, but that's no different than what's happening in the XMen movie franchise.

    • Since there's less canon to violate than Trek, and it's not a reboot... maybe?

      Use the lenseflares, Luke!

      No.... There is nothing that man can't make stupid.

  • thats probably a good thing

    • Viva Jar Jar! (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:34PM (#48887207) Journal

      You just don't "get" Jar Jar. The Force channels power through his clumsiness. His "accidents" are guided and/or re-shaped by The Force. It's not like Scooby Doo's F-ups where shear luck catches the bad guy; Jar Jar is divinely-guided chaos.

      It's mutation-based evolution cross-bred with Intelligent Design (Catholic model?) It's a contrast to The Force channeled through skill, planning, and discipline of the other characters. He's a rare character pattern in film.

      Maybe he gives hope to those of us sorely lacking Jedi qualities? :-)

      • Re:Viva Jar Jar! (Score:5, Informative)

        by Jason Levine ( 196982 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @03:36PM (#48887765) Homepage

        Best use of Jar-Jar I've ever seen was in the Clone Wars TV show. The clone troopers needed to get by some enemy soldiers so they let Jar-Jar talk to them to "negotiate." Jar-Jar's clumsiness winds up taking out every single enemy soldier. Jar-Jar is weaponized clumsiness. (Unfortunately, weaponizing his clumsiness also makes him extremely annoying.)

  • Yay!! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Lunix Nutcase ( 1092239 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:28PM (#48886477)

    Good on Disney. Lucas may be ok at imagining a story but he sucks at things like writing dialogue. That they dumped his scripts gives me hope these movies may be decent.

    • Not me. JJ's Star Trek movies were lame, so I have no hope he's going to do better here. Better than Lucas, perhaps, but that's not saying much.

      • They'll be more decent than 3 more Lucas shitfests.

      • Not me. JJ's Star Trek movies were lame, so I have no hope he's going to do better here. Better than Lucas, perhaps, but that's not saying much.

        I know I'm not the only Star Wars fan that liked the new Star Treks better than the SW prequels.

        • I liked the first JJ ST movie better than the SW prequels (1 and 2, never saw 3).

          I still didn't like it enough to bother watching his second ST movie. And considering I used to be a big ST fan as a teenager, that's saying something.

          One shitfest being better than another shitfest just isn't enough to get me to spend time or money watching a movie.

    • Good on Disney. Lucas may be ok at imagining a story...

      That's part of the problem: "a story". I watched 4, 5, 6, and 1. 1 was bad enough that I haven't bothered to seek out 2 and 3.

      I would note that in 4, 6, and 1 the entire plot was "attack the single point of failure on the enemy ship/base for the win".

  • My guess is he brought back Jar Jar Binks, as a Jedi. He was in exile, just like Obi-Wan. Every scene will be like the one where he got the droids stuck on his foot, and accidentally killed enemies. Only this time, it will be with a light saber and mad acrobatics.

  • Star Wars is over (Score:2, Insightful)

    by JohnFen ( 1641097 )

    The one-two punch of Disney and Abrams being involved with Star Wars basically kills any desire I have to see new Star Wars movies. Especially Abrams. After what Abrams did to Star Trek, I don't trust him.

  • dodged that bullet.

  • Meh (Score:2)

    by Br00se ( 211727 )

    I have a hard time getting excited about the new movies. I think I'm content to just enjoy the original trilogy and politely ignore anything new that comes along unless I hear something from sources that I trust that makes me change my mind.

  • Lolz (Score:5, Funny)

    by Maury Markowitz ( 452832 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:33PM (#48886553) Homepage

    > When Episodes 1-3 were actually released, many found them unsatisfying

    Riiiight, unsatisfying. That's exactly the right description to use.

  • Saying the prequels were "unsatisfying" is like saying that a Corolla with two bad cylinders has "unsatisfying" performance.

  • Lucas has lost it. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Ecuador ( 740021 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:34PM (#48886579) Homepage
    I recently watched THX 1138. It is a good reminder of how brilliant he was. Years ahead, great vision, but as the years passed he started losing his edge, more and more. From the Director's Cut of THX that is evident from several unneded CGI scenes that distract from the otherwise great film. The prequels and special editions show the same thing even more prominently. And let's not even talk about Indiana Jones 4 (what, there are only 3 Indiana Jones movies? Ok, I feel you). So we should be grateful when he is not writing scripts nowadays... Now, J.J. on the other hand is being made fun of for his "flares" etc, but he actually made us Trekkers be the cool kids for once! Yes, it was not "Star Trek" in the traditional sense, however it was highly enjoyable action sci-fi. Given that Star Wars was in any case not "cerebral" to start with, he should be even more at home working on it.

    • Re:Lucas has lost it. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by halivar ( 535827 ) <bfelger@gmai l . com> on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:39PM (#48886627)

      Given that Star Wars was in any case not "cerebral" to start with

      Oh, but it wanted to be. The places where it tried were solipsistic, cosmic-humanistic dreck, and the weakest dialogue in the original trilogy.

    • Oh please.

      THX-1138 was an enjoyable film, but it had no dialog! That's the #1 complaint about Lucas's scripts: he can't write dialog worth a shit. THX didn't have any, except a few weird lines ("I'm an android!"). THX was all about visual effects, nothing more. And it did well with that. It really didn't have much of a plot, and certainly no dialog worth speaking of.

      JJ's Star Trek movies were lame, and they cut out everything that made ST great: the intellectualism and consideration of social issues, i

  • Good for Disney (Score:4, Informative)

    by sirwired ( 27582 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:39PM (#48886621)

    After seeing a truly execrable trailer for "Strange Magic" (an upcoming animated movie, with the story provided by Lucas), I don't think there's anything JJ Abrams could possibly do worse than George Lucas.

  • Science fiction reaches its zenith when it is commentary by analogy to the present human condition. The original trilogy reached this as it was Lucas' protest of the Vietnam War [nypost.com]. This was evident even before Lucas' public statements, from the 1976 novelization and its prologue Journal of the Whills [darthgrader.com]. The prequels were, from the strict standpoint of plot and political commentary, a satisfying fulfillment of this 1976 prologue. That the prequels were released during the Iraq War, a mirror in many ways of the V

  • Not a good sign. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by the_skywise ( 189793 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @01:54PM (#48886799)

    While I'm happy to see that Lucas wouldn't be directing the new movies and think Jar-Jar Binks must die - I'm disappointed that they completely ignored his scripts.

    Like him or love him he still kept a good eye on the overall mythos of the Star Wars universe. While JJ Abrams can certainly do sci-fi action I highly HIGHLY doubt his sci-fi story telling skills which, while interesting, never seem to actually have a point (cloverfield, 8mm, ST:2009... LOST!)

    I think Rebels is a decent entry for Star Wars, I don't think it's surpassed Clone Wars but with Lucas setting the bar so low with the Holiday Special it's hard to go wrong. Disney has shown with Marvel that they can do good stories too.

    But this isn't Lucas' story - So bringing back the original cast plus Hollywood's current penchant for rehashing old plots that worked AND JJ's blatant cribbing of Wrath of Khan into STID doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings.

    I'd like to be pleasantly surprised...

  • There's good sex, great sex and just sex. None of it is ever really bad (between consenting people YMMV) just like a Star Wars film. Some were good, some great and some were just movies.

  • I am say, 68% excited (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:02PM (#48886865)
    Couple things for the naysayers to consider though, and why I believe Episode 7 will be good (but not near the hype):

    - Abrams himself said he is a much bigger fan of Star Wars than Star Trek. You can see that in the Trek films. They are far more "space action" akin to W than Trek.

    - Disney is the big mouse and certainly has and can screw with production they have really let the Marvel folks run their own system and it's working to great effect. The hot thing for studios these days is a more hands off approach and that's good for everyone.

    - Kathleen Kennedy is running SW and shes been around for the golden years for Lucas and Spielburg. Disney will let her and Abrams run the show.

    - Dear god the script. Both ST reboots were penned by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. They are responsible for quite a bit of the new hollywood schlock (Look at their IMDB's). Hell you could make a case that Abrams direction is what made the new Treks at least somewhat enjoyable and not just Transformers in space (and Into Darkness came close). Lawrence Kasdan who wrote TESB is involved. Basically everyone who's had their hands on the SW script has far more talent then those two.

    And lastly my biggest hope is that this is a movie being made by a generation that grew up on SW. They had to eat what Lucas was giving them like the rest of us and should want to start anew. Every fan has thought "if i made a SW sequel..." and now some of those folks are getting to, with some help from those that helped in the beginning.

    Could it all go south? Very much so, but I am keeping restrained excitement.

  • what prequels? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by megalomaniacs4u ( 199468 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:07PM (#48886921)

    There are no prequels, and this follow on trilogy won't exist either.

    Just like the matrix sequels don't exist...

  • What?! (Score:5, Funny)

    by pitchpipe ( 708843 ) on Friday January 23, 2015 @02:17PM (#48887017)

    Disney Turned Down George Lucas's Star Wars Scripts

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  • Good Call for The Rat (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 23, 2015 @04:54PM (#48888589)

    Reasons to throw out Lucas scripts:

    • Jar Jar Binks.
    • Han Shot first.
    • 3 prequels.
    • 2 ewok movies.
    • Droids and ewok cartoons.
    • Ewoks in RotJ.
    • Boba Fett in RotJ.
    • Wise Yoda is the King of Bad Judgement.
    • Jedi Knights who lie like a rug Kenobi & Yoda in the original series.
    • Mitachorians.
    • Han Shot first.
    • Jar Jar Binks.

    There's really nothing they can do to make it worse than anything Lucas has done, except more Jar Jar and ewoks.

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