Star Wars Battlefront Game Trailer Is So Realistic It Looks Like Movie Footage 150
MojoKid writes It has been a tremendous week for Star Wars fans. First we got to see Han Solo and Chewbacca make an emotional reappearance in the newest Star Wars: The Force Awakens trailer (the second official trailer Disney has put out). Now, Electronic Arts is treating us to a visual smorgasbord of cinema-quality footage showing the forthcoming Star Wars Battlefront game. Battlefront will support to up 40 players divided between the Rebel Alliance and Galactic Empire, all shooting it out and playing with some of the coolest Star Wars vehicles and weapons around. We're talking jetpacks, AT-AT war machines, AT-STs, TIE Fighters, X-wings, and more. Though the trailer allegedly shows actually "game engine footage," it's questionable whether or not it's actual gameplay or just pre-rendered cut scenes from the game engine. Either way, it's still pretty impressive.
Render farm? (Score:5, Funny)
Do they give you a render farm to run this thing on for free, or do you have to buy that yourself?
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No, it looks just like any other PS4 game. That is... Not like a movie (yet).
The headline is just trying to grab clicks by lying.
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well it just looks better than the recent sw releases, so it looks better than a movie or a tv series.
that doesn't need too much though you know.
Re:Render farm? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Render farm? (Score:5, Insightful)
*cough*Killzone*cough*
*cough*Watchdogs*cough*
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I missed absolutely nothing. Just because a cinematic was rendered using the same engine as the game does not, in any form, indicate that the game will look anything close to that. It is a completely pre-rendered video. It is *very* common for companies to use their engine to create these sorts of pre-rendered videos using models and techniques that will most definitely not be used in the game.
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Actually I like to point to Star Citizen. The cinematic and trailers for that game are at the same level of graphical fidelity than the highest in game settings. The issue is that, first you probably can't afford the system that renders this smoothly, second the game absolutely feels differently. Game play is restricted by the input space and thus is almost always clunky; the more realistic the graphics, the more jarring the disconnect feels.
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Rule of games, the better the graphics the worse the game play, the better the graphics the buggier the product upon release, cut scenes are often claimed to be part of the game. So the game engine produces the cut scenes at maximum capability on a very high powered machine over with minutes of processing to create seconds of imaging ie really, really shitty frame rates. The empty hype of modern corporate marketing. I'll wait until a year after release and let everyone else deal with B$.
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Given the number of times we've seen trailers and teasers from games which look stunning; sometimes even the demos look stunning only to have the final version look like absolute crap, I'm going to wait for the release before I declare the game to be visually good in anyway.
Studios have a long history of promising the earth and then delivering garbage. All of them, not just EA. Everyone should be highly sceptical given the history of the industry.
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You probably believe that movies "inspired by the title of a true story" bear some resemblance to the actual events, too.
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Re:Render farm? (Score:4, Funny)
I would assume that the previous AC either made a typo or isn't a native speaker of English.
Yeah. He might be American.
ducks
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LOL. If I had mod points I'd mod you up.
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Wrong on two counts. One, "you fucking American idiot" doesn't have a finite verb so it's not a complete sentence. Had he written "you're a..." you might have a point.
Two, it's correct to use a comma to separate the addressee. http://www.grammarerrors.com/p... [grammarerrors.com]
Many people here omit it, sometimes changing the meaning somewhat.
"There's an orange, doctor" vs. "There's an orange doctor"
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Questionable? (Score:5, Insightful)
it's questionable whether or not it's actual gameplay or just pre-rendered cut scenes from the game engine.
It's not questionable at all. When devs actually use in-game footage, they'll rub it in your face in every way possible. In-engine footage is marketing speak for "We wish we could do something like that, but right now it's running at 2 fps on SLI Titan Xs and all the animations are static".
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totally pre-rendered - disclaimer at end makes it pretty clear demo of the 'game engine' not actual gameplay
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I expect "game engine" demos to look the same as gameplay -- rendered cutscenes have been done with the game engine for years now, rather than playing pre-renderred video clips.
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I think we all know that EA is lying and actually gameplay won't look like that.
But, more importantly, the phrase "So Realistic It Looks Like Movie Footage" is now meaningless. Yes, it does look "just like a movie" due to the fact that many scenes from movies are now done almost entirely in CGI.
Re:Questionable? (Score:4, Funny)
In reality it looks like this [wordpress.com].
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In reality it looks like this [wordpress.com].
That's "game engine" footage, not "in-game". The final release won't have the same rich colour-depth.
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Photo realistic? (Score:3)
Sure, the lightning is good. But photo realistic? Not even close. It looks awesome but come on.
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It looked good, until they were no longer able to not show faces.
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Its honestly pretty competitive with CG effects in movies. I mean, go back and watch the prequel starwars movies again. All the CG was obvious. The lighting is almost never perfect.
My personal favorite bad CG was that scorpion king mummy scene where the rock was turned into a giant insect and it looked seriously off. I'm not sure what it was... I'm assuming something with the lighting or shaders or something.
But really, if this is at all representative of what the game will look like, then I think it should
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on a bad youtube video on my tv, I had to do a double take as the scene i was watching could have been in ROTJ.
on my computer yea I agree it looks awesome but I can see the differences.
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The faces give it away no matter what you watch it on.
Not interested (Score:2)
Energy weapons are satisfying (Score:2)
There have been plenty of Star Wars games over the years where I have taken great satisfaction in dispatching foes with energy weapons.
But beyond that, as long as they have Thermal Detonators, you will probably gets the gibs you are looking for.
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Man, I disagree. Kinetic weapons are great, but a good blaster or plasma weapon is the coolest thing to nail someone with in multiplayer in pretty much any game that does service to the scifi weapon types.
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As long as you get to shoot first.
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Surely you realize those weapons are not realistic, right?
They behave pretty much like normal guns, and not like lasers would.
Re:DICE game? (Score:5, Funny)
You'd be happy if Slashdot was owned by a EA subsidiary?
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Sure EA doesn't upgrade anything. slashdot Beta would never have existed.
not to mention the DRM would prevent AC's from getting their frosty piss.
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"A DICE GAME" (Score:2)
Now I know everything.
Disclaimer: I know it isn't THE dice, still funny.
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Gameplay is king (Score:5, Interesting)
It also doesn't look like a movie, not a high-budget one anyway. With the luxury of pre-rendering movies are already 15 years beyond those plastic faces. But enough complaining. Did you see the actor covering his face from the explosion? The smooth teamwork? The variety of vehicles? Maybe I'm behind the times but the non-graphics-related material; the gameplay, that's what I'm really into. And this has some good stuff.
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It's done by DICE under EA, they're the makers of the Battlefield series.
It will be a casual shooter. They attract people with visuals and pseudo-cinematic aspects, not with actual gameplay.
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the gameplay, that's what I'm really into. And this has some good stuff.
Battlefront has never been disappointing in that regard and the previous 2 versions are still worth getting on a LAN and playing with friends. Hopefully this version of BF will allow the type of gameplay that has been available in the past to continue, instead of forcing you to be online like many games are now.
After all the gameplay has to be good AND it has to be fun to play.
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It's just Battlefield 4 in the Star Wars universe. All of this including the great visuals already exist in Battlefield 4 since about 18 months ago.
The upside is this is star wars, which makes it awesome. Let's just hope that it actually works, unlike BF4 which was broken and buggy for months after release, and still to this day has some launch day bugs present in it.
Even BF3 before it had most of this stuff from a gameplay perspective so I don't really see anything new or groundbreaking here, but I'm happy
Game Engine footage != Game footage (Score:2)
what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Since modern Star Wars cinema looks like a video game, this isn't much a stretch.
Fan boy review much? (Score:5, Interesting)
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There is offline single player. I am a bit miffed on the space battles thing. However, the space-based combat in BF2 was hardly the end-all-be-all of Star Wars dogfighting. X Vs Tie or Rogue Squadron it was not. As for the Prequel era stuff, They more or less said it will be DLC [ign.com] While I hate EA's DLC practices and it is pretty shitty they can't include them what is a $70 game, if they can bring back Gungan genocide mode, playable Palpatine, and the Naboo and Mustafar maps, I might consider buying them.
Eith
Re:Fan boy review much? (Score:5, Insightful)
> No content from Eps 1-3.
This is a complaint?
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I basically agree, but I'm not sure I understand the relevance.
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Pretending 1-3 don't exist is a FEATURE not a bug.
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Meesa thought you would say that...
Microtransactions (Score:5, Funny)
"Your blaster battery is low. You can either wait and let it recharge or for 20 EA bucks, purchase an unlimited charge battery."
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If people didn't pay for it, it wouldn't exist. I'm not talking about any specific game, but the pay-to-play/pay-to-win trend itself. People have shown that they're willing to pay to overcome obstacles -- even obstacles that exist solely to get them to pay, which would be extortion in any other context. The only way to eliminate extortion is to ban it, otherwise it's really damned effective.
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"Pre-Order and get bonuscontent early."...
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Pre order for $99.
Release date price $65.
Super premium version $189.
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Like EA would ever be that generous. 5 recharges, expiring after 24 hours, for 40 EA bucks (real value $19.99).
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It's a game. It is supposed to be fun. If you want gritty realism, why are you looking at a Star Wars game? Go play America's Army [americasarmy.com]
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Gameplay looks great (Score:3, Informative)
The closed booth presentation they gave at Celebration shows actual gameplay on a PS4. It is not quite as great looking as the trailer, which is clearly using scripted animations and heavy editing but pretty impressive none the less. It's very beautiful, the sounds are incredibly authentic and the ATSTs and ATATs look and sound lethal.
It felt like people died way too quickly for a video game but it looked, sounded, and felt very much like what it would be like to assault the shield generator bunker at the battle of Endor.
It's a trick of your brain (Score:2)
Frostbite (Score:2)
The Frostbite Game Engine is the best looking one around at present so yes, these scenes may have been generated real-time but it will be just like those in other games using the engine. Cut-scenes like this turn off unwanted background game processing and then set gfx settings up to the max. In game =/= In engine.
Sure it looks pretty but there are enough negatives to make me want to avoid this
> EA
> DLC, DLC, and some more DLC with a side helping of micro-transactions.
> Buggy DiCE software
> Comb
Look at the last few seconds of the video (Score:5, Informative)
But wait theres more! (Score:2)
EA Star Wars Battlepacks only 4.99$ Act now and you can get the Super Deluxe Version for 199 dollars with access to the beta!
EA is screwing over everyone with micro transactions in all their games. The grind to unlock gear, and reducing quality. Where is Battlefield 5? Hardline is an absurd step back and it seems to be a fluff game so they can rape consumers by using the BattleField name.
How long (Score:3)
Re:How long (Score:5, Insightful)
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However, I often find 3D makes a game worse.
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Right but a Battlefront game is gonna have good game play.
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Only 40 players (Score:1)
Won't buy it then.
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Questionable?? (Score:2)
Uh, I don't think it's questionable at all. This 100% looks like pre-rendered in engine footage. Just because they say it's in engine graphics doesn't mean it's real-time. While I'd love it if this looked this good there is just no way I'm buying it right now.
Trailer? (Score:2)
The problem with ALL game trailers is... none of them give an idea of actual game play. Best thing to do is wait til someone posts some real game play on youtube. Then you'll get an idea if it's worth it or not.
EA? Pass. (Score:2)
EA will never get another dime of my money. I don't care if they somehow manage to pull off a miracle and actually deliver a playable game for once.
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As a Star Wars fan this shit always leaves me so conflicted. Such a lucrative license with so much good stuff.
EA's umbrella companies vary in quality, but many are very good. The corporate burden of being under EA is just fucking immense though, and they put shit into games that should not have shit.
I'll definitely buy Battlefront. My general dislike of the corporation is simply far less than my desire to play some fucking Star Wars. It definitely feels like a captive audience trick, though.
Realistic?? (Score:2)
For your information: Star Wars is fiction. I know for many people it seems very real but I have to disappoint you. Nothing about it is realistic.
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You beat me to this.
The idea of "realism" in fiction, especially science-fiction/fantasy genres is truly odd. Although their saving grace is comparing to whether it is like a movie or not.
(Historical fiction not so much, except when they make up major events that never happened. Invented love interest however is always a given that can be lived with.)
Still the dead carp eyes. (Score:2)
But on that note, I may very well have to buy a PS just to get this game.
It has been a tremendous week for Star Wars fans. (Score:5, Funny)
One got a job and one got laid?
Not the same one, obviously. Let's not step into the realms of fantasy.
So they have this great tech but they use it to (Score:2)
rehash an old movie with "speeders" and whatever those stupid giant walking machines/targets are called, but they left out the one thing that made it Star Wars: the frickin' teddy bears! Where are the damned teddy bears? I want teddy bears!
It's GAME ENGINE FOOTAGE not INGAME FOOTAGE (Score:1)
Slashdot Article is So Pandering... (Score:2)
...it looks like advertising!
X-Wing VS Tie Fighter (Score:2)
Call me when X-Wing VS Tie Fighter comes out again, otherwise I am not all that interested. Also 20 VS 20? Please. Those are some cute systems you go there.
Hopefully when/if X-Wing VS Tie Fighter ever does come back it will be designed for PC's and not crippled for this console garbage.
Maybe with the re-release with the film, it will happen...
PhysX? (Score:1)
One thing I note is that the particle effects are quite impressive, including explosions and sparks, etc. I'm guessing those are PhysX enabled or possibly Mantle? Whatever is being used, it definitely helps lend a bit of a Starwars/movie feel to things.
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I agree, if you need evidence of this claim look to Hardline.