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Dr Who Detective Philip Morris Hints At More Rediscovered Episodes 79

BigBadBus writes: In late 2013, Philip Morris announced that he had found 9 missing episodes of 1960s Dr.Who, which completed the 1968 story "Enemy of the World" and most of "The Web of Fear." He has now gone on record to talk about the only episode of these stories that he didn't find — namely part 3 of "Web of Fear" and teases of more episode finds to come. Episodes keep trickling out of the past, it seems; we've mentioned a few small finds in 2004 and 2011, too.
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Dr Who Detective Philip Morris Hints At More Rediscovered Episodes

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  • by BigBadBus ( 653823 ) on Saturday September 26, 2015 @01:51PM (#50604439) Homepage
    As the submitter of this article, I thought readers might like to see a list of missing and recovered episodes, all from the first 6 years on my website [paullee.com]
    • Can I ask where the idea that he has "teased more episodes to come" comes from? Because it doesn't seem to be borne out by anything in the article. Even inferring that he's hopeful he might find more seems a bit of a stretch to me.

      • I think the original article has been amended as I am sure I saw it earlier on when I submitted the news. Other websites are starting to pick up on Morris's statements and some of them are also reporting "hints" and "teasing."
    • by lgw ( 121541 ) on Saturday September 26, 2015 @03:48PM (#50604777) Journal

      Doctor Who not Dr. Who

      Sheesh, if we're going to indulge in fan-wankery, let's at least do it right. "Dr. Who" was used in the title of the first of the two non-canon 60s Movies with Peter Cushing (I rather like them, and the colorful Daleks, but fans at the time weren't happy with the adaptation), and has never been used since. Everywhere else, it's always spelled out, never abbreviated.

      Nice to see more of the early works recovered. I'd especially love to see more of the second Doctor (Patrick Troughton). Troughton had a unique take on the character, and so little of his work survived.

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Look at the credits to many Doctor Who episodes, especially those in the 1960s. The character is called "Dr Who" not "Doctor Who."
        • The character is called "Dr Who" not "Doctor Who."

          He's credited as Dr Who, sometimes. He's never called Doctor Who.

          Err, except in that one episode where he was...

          Anyway, point being, the name of the series has always been "Doctor Who," never "Dr Who."

          • Somewhere around Matt Smith's tenure, the show's logo were the letters "DRWHO" bent into the shape of a perspective view of a Tardis. So yes, on this instance, at least, the "Dr" form is observed, and that's just what I can think up off the top of my head.

            The standard gag (following "It's bigger on the inside!") is. "I'm The Doctor. / Doctor? Doctor Who?"

            As David Tennant, he identified himself as "Doctor Smith", just to avoid committing to an actual name and to play off "Doctor (Martha) Jones", alias Smith

            • Somewhere around Matt Smith's tenure, the show's logo were the letters "DRWHO" bent into the shape of a perspective view of a Tardis.

              It's TARDIS, and no, it was the letters "DW", with "Doctor" to the left and "Who" to the right.

              As David Tennant, he identified himself as "Doctor Smith"

              Pretty sure 10 never did that...

          • In the last of the Key of Time serials (fourth doctor, Tom Baker), another Time Lord who was in school with him calls him "Sigma Theta". The Doctor, of course, asks the guy to use his title.

        • "Look at the credits to many Doctor Who episodes, especially those in the 1960s. The character is called "Dr Who" not "Doctor Who." Wrong. The opening credits have been 'Doctor Who' since series one, episode one.
      • The Slash software limits headline lengths. Of the following two headlines, which have the same character count, which is preferable?

        • Dr Who Detective Philip Morris Hints At More Rediscovered Episodes
        • Doctor Who Detective Philip Morris Hints At More Rediscovered Epis
        • Doctor Who Detective Hints At More Rediscovered Episodes

          Then you name the guy in the summary.

          Irrelevant anyway, since there is plenty of room for more characters:

          FTC Begins Investigating Google For Antitrust Violations Over "Home Screen Advantage"

    • by Nick ( 109 )
      Thank you for this!
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Use the TARDIS to travel back to the first broadcast, capture it on a VCR, and be done with it?

    • Use the TARDIS to travel back to the first broadcast, capture it on a VCR, and be done with it?

      It has been suggested...

      "Certainly better than television and a great deal easier to use than a video recorder. If I miss a programme I just pop back in time and watch it. I'm hopeless fiddling with all those buttons..."

      Douglas Adams: Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (...but would probably have been in Doctor Who: Shada were it not for a strike at the BBC).

    • by Megane ( 129182 )
      Luckily, Doctor Who post-dates the introduction of PAL broadcasting by only a few years, so you won't have to go to an alternate universe to find a 405-line VCR.
  • Hands up if you never watched the show and only ever read the books, which by the way were brilliant.

    • by caseih ( 160668 )

      The books were good. Douglas Adams' unfinished episode Shada was turned into a novel and it was excellent. I listened to it in audio book form.

      I have also really enjoyed the various doctor who audio dramas over the years.

  • Most of those episodes are a snooze fest.

  • by wonkey_monkey ( 2592601 ) on Saturday September 26, 2015 @02:48PM (#50604641) Homepage

    Dr Who Detective Philip Morris Hints At More Rediscovered Episodes

    It's called "Doctor Who." It's never been called Dr Who.

    And that's not just nerdly outrage talking. Dr Who [wikia.com] is someone else entirely. Sort of.

    • by VAXcat ( 674775 )
      Meh...not everyone's a fan. I'm not. For me this nerdrage is strictly Doctor who cares.
    • It's called "Doctor Who." It's never been called Dr Who.

      Hang on. If you looking carefully at the end credits for 'An Unearthly Child' (which is widely available on the interwebs) you'll see that - all the nerdy NOOO!!! he is called THE DOCTOR!!! notwithstanding - the character is actually credited as "Dr. Who".

      If I'm found dead in a ditch with my head smashed in by a thermos flask (traces of Bovril detected) and fibres of imitation rabbit-fur under my nails (consistent with an anorak or parka) then we'll know that I should never have spoken of this...

  • You're just trying to distract us from the hundreds of thousands of lung cancer deaths you're responsible for each and every year.

  • by Theovon ( 109752 ) on Saturday September 26, 2015 @04:50PM (#50604957)

    I will swear to you up and down that when I was a kid in Tampa, FL, I saw the full episode of "The Power of the Daleks" (first episode of the second doctor). But when I found it again a few years ago, there were only telesnaps. I'm willing to believe that my memory is faulty. But the thing is, the episode plot was totally familiar to me, and I recognized scenes. Also, I would be surprised if any PBS station (either WEDU or WUSF there) would play telesnap episodes.

    • I will swear to you up and down that when I was a kid in Tampa, FL.

      Yeah, and loads of people swear that Luke threw the grappling hook tw-

      I'm willing to believe that my memory is faulty.

      Aw. Spoilsport.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        And I remember that Han shot first. Sometimes things get lost in the annals of history.

    • You know, I had a friend in Canada who swore blind he saw 1960s episodes broadcast that are now missing but when this was mentioned to the upper echelons of Dr.Who fandom, we were told it wasn't true, his memory was faulty, or that he was wrong. The man is sure he was right, but to those of Fandom Royalty, it seemed to be much effort to check the basis of this story. It was much easier to label it as "rumour" or "wrong."
      • You know, I had a friend in Canada who swore blind he saw 1960s episodes broadcast that are now missing but when this was mentioned to the upper echelons of Dr.Who fandom, we were told it wasn't true, his memory was faulty, or that he was wrong. The man is sure he was right, but to those of Fandom Royalty, it seemed to be much effort to check the basis of this story. It was much easier to label it as "rumour" or "wrong."

        And it's entirely possible that he's right - a lot of the lost episodes are being found in the archives of foreign television stations. So it's not impossible that the network *did* air it, and then did whatever you do with old shows you didn't care about pre-reruns.

  • There is a lost season of Gillian's Island out there.... I swear I saw 3 of the episodes.... plus secret commentary from the actors talking about the lost season themselves....

    • by Anonymous Coward

      There is a lost season of Gillian's Island out there.... I swear I saw 3 of the episodes.... plus secret commentary from the actors talking about the lost season themselves....

      It's entirely possible, in fact it seems that the entire series has gone missing! I can't find any mention of "Gillian's Island" anywhere.

    • by Megane ( 129182 )
      It was called Dusty's Trail. [wikipedia.org]

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