Star Trek: Renegades Working On Episodes 2 and 3 (kickstarter.com) 35
JoSch1337 writes: The last time Star Trek: Renegades was on Slashdot was in 2013. It's an independent, canon-faithful Trek series with high production values and some of the actors from the TV shows. Since their original campaign, the team has produced an amazing pilot episode 1 and is now gathering support to produce episode 2, and even episode 3 if they reach their stretch goal. From the Kickstarter page: "Star Trek Renegades is an independent, fan-funded and supported Internet television series, executive produced by Sky Conway. Renegades features a combination of familiar Star Trek character and actors, plus a collection of hot, new rising actors. Set a decade after Voyager's return from Delta Quadrant, ST: Renegades focuses on a team of fugitives, who are on the run from the Federation while secretly working for the head of Starfleet intelligence, Admiral Pavel Chekov (Walter Koenig) and Tuvok (Tim Russ, who also directs) to root out internal corruption within the Federation as well as external threats."
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Except Star Trek New Voyages.
Re:So how many is this? (Score:4, Insightful)
Some of those fan productions have been quite good; not as good as the very best of any of the series, but a hell of a lot better than you'd think if you imagine them by the standards of typical fan fic. These are labors of love, and they're genuinely entertaining -- although I admit to being a little prejudiced in favor anything that someone obviously put so much care into.
As for competition, well one of the big difference between a pro and a dedicated amateur is that a pro can work a lot faster. These fan productions put out an episode every year or two; the official series churned out 25-30 episodes per year. In a way this was te franchise's artistic downfall; for the entire run of Deep Space 9 there were TWO Star Trek series in production; TNG in 94 and Voyager from 95 on. That meant they were putting out something like 50 episodes a year, and toward the end of the DS9 run it began to feel like they had more episodes on the broadcast schedule to fill than they had stories to tell. There were a number of episodes in DS9 and Voyager which damaged the franchise's reputation, which is a shame because both series at their best could be quite good.
The problem with these amateur productions is that even when they're surprisingly good they don't produce enough product; the problem with the series has consistently been that they've produced *too much* product. What I'd like to see is something like the old Columbo TV series, which put out a half dozen "movie of the week" episodes per year: less quantity (although not too much less), more quality.
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That was two mostly independent production teams. DS9 started falling apart because they couldn't leave it to it's own cannon; they had to keep lacing it back into TNG, and Voyager. The entire basis of Voyager was lost somewhere around episode 2, it seems... 70 THOUSAND lightyears from the federation, so they have ZERO contact. Yet, not a season went by that didn't string them back to the alpha quadrant somehow.
(That was the downfall of Stargate atlantis AND universe, too.)
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It seemed to me that both DS9 and Voyager ran out of story ideas at the same time; perhaps it was a coincidence.
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Voyager was a fundamentally broken concept. The idea of course was to get out of the Alpha quadrant and free the writers to do new things without having to deal with all the built up cannon. What they forgot is that Star Trek is always a interstellar soap opera or western, its about the people.
What would people do in Voyagers situation either A) give up on the idea of ever getting home and find a place to start a new life, or B) Do little else but try to get home.
The writers went with (B) so rather than f
WTH (Score:2)
I backed the original campaign, but they never sent a link to the video. I feel cheated by getting it from Slashdot.
Worthy of pick-up by CBS (Score:2)
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Corruption fighting corruption? (Score:4, Funny)
Pavel Chekov, also known as Alfred Bester, fighting corruption in the Federation? Ha! The Alfred Bester and his corrupt Psi Cops were no match for John Sheridan, and were hoping to find a much weaker opponent in the Federation.
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The Next Generation ships were models.
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How hard is it for them to model and texture a couple ships and use a proper raytraced render?
How hard is it for you to look past it? When I go back to Babylon 5 things look pretty ropey, but I'm not watching for the special effects.
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B5's gfx were rather impressive for the era -- and the Amiga used to make them :-)
Renegades makes me think I'm watching someone play a video game. And not a top of the line game. The open part in the mines gave me the impression of an oil rig lit with some walmart desk lamps.
And a word on audio... execute whomever handled sound. I have my speakers turned to max. The sound card turned to max. And youtube turned to max. And most dialog is still too soft.
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Sorry for being pedantic, but this IS Slashdot after all
Trek continues (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Trek continues (Score:5, Informative)
You should watch episodes 4 & 5... they're good as well (especially 5).
Another One... (Score:3)
It's about the final battle in the war with the Klingons, set just before TOS.
They have a documentary-style leadup to it, called Prelude to Axenar [youtube.com]. It's got decent production values, some good and logical story telling, and shows promise for what they want to do. Also some Trek alumni - Tony Todd, John Hertzler and Gary Graham, reprising his Enterprise role Ambassador Soval.
Everyone running it down sucks. (Score:3)
I am pleased to fucking death. That's been out and I missed it?
And Jonas fucking Quinn as a starship captain. Holy crap I am geeking out.
Wooden acting? Compared to what, Enterprise? (The Archer, nice irony there) The sucky thing called Voyager perhaps? Two good things about Voyager though: Seven of Nine (Elaborate.) and Tuvok. Nimoy is my childhood idol, but Tim Russ plays the best Vulcan, sorry, and he's in it too. And Checkov is an old man. Cool.
Thin plot? Whatever. It's a fucking science fiction show. Bad guys are going to end the Earth, and our gallant crew saves it. Yeah it's been done before. It's a good one for doing a pilot and introducing the cast. Bite me.
And they're going to make two more. Holy crap I love the internet!
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Yeah. Parker Lewis doesn't belong on a starship.
Re: Everyone running it down sucks. (Score:2)
Two words that will ruin Voyager forever for you: Janeway whispers...
Hold on... (Score:2)
Having seen the first episode, I have serious reservations regarding the writing.
The whole thing was a bit too rapid fire - they desperately tried to shoehorn in as many characters and plot devices, leading to a somewhat confusing plot. I can understand some confusion as a metaphor for the federation's condition, but I fear that is just an overanalysis of writing that is... let's say it could use some improvements.
Given the smorgasbord of planned returning characters (Just about half of DS9's cast, by my es
Not impressed (Score:2)