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Anti-Piracy Firm Rightscorp Will Hijack Pirates' Browsers Until a Fine is Paid (torrentfreak.com) 339

An anonymous reader writes: Anti-piracy firm Rightscorp says that it's working on a next-generation technology called Scalable Copyright, under which it plans to extract cash settlements from suspected Internet pirates. The company says its new technology will lock users' browsers and prevent Internet access until they pay a fine. (Sounds familiar?) To encourage ISPs to play along, Rightscorp says the system could help to limit their copyright liability. For those unaware, Rightscorp works with copyright owners such as movie studios, music labels, and game developers, and tracks the IP addresses of people who are torrenting copyright infringing material. Sadly, the company's previous tactics haven't worked so well. The company doesn't have many clients, and it posted a net loss of $3.43m in 2015, up from the $2.85m net loss recorded in 2014.
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Anti-Piracy Firm Rightscorp Will Hijack Pirates' Browsers Until a Fine is Paid

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  • by MitchDev ( 2526834 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:44PM (#51838761)

    ... this is a prime example.

    • by krisbrowne42 ( 549049 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:47PM (#51838781)
      Nope, that's too simple. They deserve to slide into oblivion, watching their business model fall to obscurity, while they eventually get caught up in litigation for the blackmail tactics they've burned consumers with.
      • by Applehu Akbar ( 2968043 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @03:04PM (#51839999)

        "Slide into oblivion?" In this case, more like firebombing their offices and making good use of our Second Amendment rights.

        We have always wanted to know where to find a ransom ware operator, and now we have one who self-identifies.

    • by Matheus ( 586080 )

      I'm confused... wasn't April Fools 3 days ago?

  • good luck (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rob MacDonald ( 3394145 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:46PM (#51838775)
    Installing a fucking piece of malware you fucking twits, you've literally reinvented cryptolock trojans, Slow clap for you. Not only is this not feasible (you'd have to bribe EVERY security researcher and pay to get whitelisted on EVERY AV site) unless you work a deal with the browser creators. And hey, I don't know about anyone else, but I certainly don't pay for a fucking browser, so there's no benefit from them adopting this unless having a lower userbase is something they are interested in. Here's a fucking CRAZY idea. Give us the content we want the way we want at a reasonable price. I'm 100% confident that would work, and be cheaper than whatever asshat ideas your NON ENGINEERS can dream up after a long night of doing whippits.
    • Re: good luck (Score:5, Interesting)

      by saloomy ( 2817221 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:56PM (#51838871)
      I think they plan to do this at the ISP level with a proxy or something, doesn't sound like they are inventing or installing anything. Sounds like they are man-in-the-middling your connection with a bad proxy.
      • I wonder how many ISPs would actually be willing to do this, however, and whether it would even be legal in the US.

        • I would have to imagine being illegal has nothing to do with it, it would be a violation of the terms of service you signed up for Internet with, and I would imagine the ISPs who negotiate that with the various municipalities they operate in (Cable companies in particular who get exclusive access to residents of a city agree on TOS, packages, pricing for a particular city when agreeing to service said city). Municipal governments are locally controlled so it's easy to make sure agreeing to this sort of beha
          • Many such contacts include a 'we can change the terms any time we want, and a lack of written objection from you will be considered agreement to the new terms' clause.

        • Comcast already does this to some degree. They will inject HTTP into your browser requests if you have a copyright violation. It would be just as easy to redirect your web requests to a Rightscorp page until you pay the fine.
      • if they hijack dns, you use someone else's dns (hopefully they don't block dns queries over your wan).

        if they insert data in your stream, you run a secure link or even a vpn.

        if they block vpn use, THEN its time to find another isp. (good luck; most people have just 1 local choice.)

    • Re:good luck (Score:5, Insightful)

      by mjwx ( 966435 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:41PM (#51839227)
      I also feel the need to point out that this act is almost literally the definition of digital piracy.

      Arrrr, me crew and I have taken ye browser and seek 200 gold pieces for it's safe return.

      Although "extortion" might be the better word for it in the modern parlance.
  • They want to be be internet tough guy vigilantes.

  • by bizitch ( 546406 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:47PM (#51838789) Homepage

    I want to check out their website http://www.rightscorp.com/ [rightscorp.com] and it's not loading.

    I keep clicking refresh over and over and over and its still not loading .....

    Hmmmmmm I wonder why?

    • I guess they've already hijacked your browser, pirate.
    • by Scarred Intellect ( 1648867 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:54PM (#51839333) Homepage Journal
      From their FAQs:

      ...Most internet service provider contracts state that the contract holder is responsible for actions taken on their internet service.

      What is an IP Address?

      Every machine on the Internet has a unique identifying number, called an IP Address.

      What is[sic] the IP Address shown does not match the IP Address on the notice?

      Occasionally, your ISP may change the IP Address that your computer uses. Your ISP has verified that at the time your computer was used for copyright infringement, it was using the IP Address stated in the notice.

      Sounds legit to me!

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      You should write a script to click refresh for you. So you can get the very latest RightsCorp news as soon as it's available, of course.

      Actually, this is not a bad idea for any company that has a terms of service with a line stating that it could change at any time. But your honor, the TOS says it's my responsibility to stay current. I was doing that to the best of my abilities (and helped everyone else do so as well).

  • Reminds Me (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Luthair ( 847766 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:48PM (#51838791)
    of the Sony rootkit fiasco, or back when the MPAA used to pay people to DOS file sharers
    • Well in perspective, Sony didn't announce they were doing it, it was discovered. And on the whole, it opened some security holes up but unless you went looking, it didn't interfere with your computer at all. MPAA paying people to DOS is something altogether different, and illegal now.
      • Re:Reminds Me (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Jason Levine ( 196982 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @02:19PM (#51839569) Homepage

        It was also self-limited to Sony customers. Granted, you didn't get to approve the trojan install, but once it was public you could avoid it by avoiding Sony. With this plan, Rightscorp will get your ISP to redirect your traffic purely based on "we say this person is a dirty pirate." If they're mistaken? Oh well, either prove it to them (without using the Internet, mind you) or pay up. And you can't say "don't pirate and this won't happen to you" because there's no guarantee that Rightscorp's pirate identification methods will be foolproof. You can get caught in the web simply because some data entry clerk at Rightscorp typed an IP address in wrong.

  • How would it limit liability? Don't they have a long history of let us remove whatever we wan't and then we will sue you into oblivion anyway after you have done everything we asked?

    • ISPs already have limited liability due to their status as a common carrier. The only reason ISPs might agree to this scheme is as a way to manage traffic (cutting off illegal downloaders who are heavy bandwidth users). Even then, ISPs already have ways of doing that which don't involve shady third parties like RightsCorp.
  • by pla ( 258480 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:51PM (#51838817) Journal
    In the absence of some sort of legal judgement allowing these thugs to shake people down for cash, doesn't this just go by the plain old-fashioned name of "extortion"?

    Wait, I've missed the bigger picture here! Apparently all the crypto-locker authors just need to make up a random crime to accuse people of, and then their ransomware becomes perfectly kosher, right?

    Time to go write an "anti-piracy" app that only targets Rightscorp!
    • In the absence of some sort of legal judgement allowing these thugs to shake people down for cash, doesn't this just go by the plain old-fashioned name of "extortion"?

      It's a variation of what these people have been doing all along, what with offering music downloaders an "easy $1500 payment" or a $200,000 court judgment... I don't know if the courts still buy that load, but it often comes down to who can afford the lawyers, and it's rarly the person getting the shake-down.

      The issue here that will be litigated is the browser malware, not the monetary shake-down itself.

  • "No your honor. These files were retrieved via FTP not torrent."
  • by JoeyRox ( 2711699 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:57PM (#51838883)
    There's no honor among thieves.
  • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @12:57PM (#51838891) Journal

    Also, how on earth is this not very very illegal?

    • Oh, it is illegal. And if you can duke out and finance a multi-year legal battle you might even get a title. A title to get money from a shell company that has made nothing but losses during its existence that will go POOF before the ink on that title has dried.

      5 minutes later Legalcorp will appear somewhere.

  • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

    How could that possibly be legal under the CFAA?

    Sounds like criminal tampering with someone else's computer to me. If this happened to me I know I would tell RightsCorp, "Of course I did nothing wrong and infringed no copyrights you are in error, but by the way if you ever even think of filing any complain against me, I'll be on the DOJ tip line so fast it will make your head spin. I'll be in writing editorials everywhere you can imagine about how you guys appear to be committing federal computer crimes a

  • Wow ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:04PM (#51838941) Homepage

    Wow vigilante hacking with no legal burden of proof and so they can run a shakedown racket?

    Sorry, this is an asshole copyright troll, who has consistently demonstrated they lie about owning copyrights, who make illegal shakedown requests, and expect to do this with zero evidentiary standard, and have ISPs put in the infrastructure to support it.

    Sorry, assholes. You have no legal basis to do this, and if you do it's hard to see how this won't get you some actual criminal charges. They want to make claims for which there is no basis in law, and for which they do not have a legal right to make.

    Then again, putting these clowns in jail under a RICO conviction would be awesome.

    These guys can't even convince judges they're not a scam, because they are a scam. The idiots who run Rightscorp are nothing more than crooks and thieves abusing the legal process to send shakedown notices about infringements they aren't in a legal position to be pursuing.

    They're lying bastards, and any ISP which lets them tie into anything is likely going to open themselves to some major legal action.

    This is just delusional bullshit PR by a company who greatly overstates their legal position here.

  • Wait (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Dunbal ( 464142 ) * on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:07PM (#51838973)
    I'm pretty sure someone breaking the law is not an excuse for you to also break the law.
  • This sounds like a great business model: Let's post losses for years one end, and see how well that works for us.

    I'm sure they're losing a little on each transaction, but they're planning to make it up in volume!

  • by swschrad ( 312009 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:11PM (#51838995) Homepage Journal

    constitutes hacking, gross misdemeanor under a 20+ year old law, 90 days and $2000 per instance if I remember correctly.

    • by Jahta ( 1141213 )

      constitutes hacking, gross misdemeanor under a 20+ year old law, 90 days and $2000 per instance if I remember correctly.

      It's illegal in lots of places. Where I live modifying, or interfering with the operation of, somebody's computer without their consent is a crime. So as the saying goes "good luck with that".

    • But that applies only to the plebs, not corporations. Or do you see any Sony C-Levels in jail?

  • Sure, you can't just make everyone install a browser, but you can have a forced windows update that puts this right into the kernel. They already do it with a "punk-buster"esque anti-cheat engine and for DRM, why not add anti-piracy? Sure it won't stop the hardcore 'nix folks, but it will stop little jimmy from not paying for his music and entertainment.
  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:11PM (#51839001)

    I have 6 different browsers, which one will they try to block?
    Not to mention, that 95% of my stuff gets downloaded automatically by uTorrent from TvRSS, no browsers involved,

    • by mlts ( 1038732 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:35PM (#51839173)

      Other than getting ISPs to block users (where the ISP now has to deal with a potential subscriber lawsuit because of the word of a third party), I just don't see how this is going to work:

      1: Browser makers won't allow a third party to disable their software at the third party's whim. Even if were mandated (perhaps a DMCA2 treaty), there would be some people in Russia who will just fork off a pre-bongoed source and offer that for download.

      2: If it gets nailed through a browser or add-on, it will be patched by the browser or third parties. They better stand in line behind the real ransomware makers if they want to go for 0-day security day holes.

      3: People have multiple browsers. To separate tasks, I use sandboxie, multiple browsers, browsers on USB flash drives, and different types of browsers. Will they shut them all down? Perhaps if they inject malware that does redirects.

      4: People have virtual machines. Destroy the VM that I use for browsing the web, I just run "vagrant destroy --force && vagrant up", and in a few minutes, I have my browser virtual machine back up, running, with all my extensions present, courtesy of provisioning scripts.

      5: People have and use VPNs, both in the same country and offshore. Good luck with sending copyright notices to the VPN in Switzerland, Sweden, or even Canada. Even a VPN in the same area, unless the party decided to press a legal case, they won't be handing names and other info over, if they are to remain in business for long.

      6: People use combinations of the above. Push too hard and even Joe Sixpack will start using an offshore VPN service for $5 a month, pretty much making any IP enforcement impossible without having to make it an international event.

      tl;dr, Rightcorp's existence depends on trying to get ISPs to do the belling the cat (with the legal risk that entails for the ISP) for them... and all it takes is 1-2 false positives for that ISP to start seriously hurting. Even worse, it will just make the pirates "go dark" and ensure that nothing but the most elaborate tracking will actually work.

  • No due process (Score:5, Insightful)

    by kheldan ( 1460303 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:14PM (#51839027) Journal
    So they're going to just bypass all that pesky legal stuff like people's rights and impose punishment on people who haven't even been arrested or had their day in court? Sounds to me like vigilantism at best, or quite a bit like cybercrime or cyberterrorism at worst. Sounds to me like they're the ones who need to be arrested by the FBI, not alleged 'copyright infringers'.
  • I can't access that site from work, so please pardon me if this question was addressed.

    How are they going to do this in the United States without committing a federal felony?

    Some adware/spyware gets a legal pass because it's bundled with other software and its installation is "authorized" when the user accepts the terms/EULA. Without consent, they cannot legally install anything.

  • I suspect that Rightscorp will not, in fact, be able to hijack browsers until a fine is paid due to myriad technological and legal issues.
  • That what corporations do to protect their interests?

  • even though I'm against piracy, this is certainly NOT legal, this falls in the same category as actual mallware/ransomware which in many countries is illegal.. Especially with ransomware these days, you can bet your ass that some other asswipe will use it (their logo/message) to extort money..
  • Due Process? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Holi ( 250190 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:48PM (#51839275)
    So they will kill any chance they have at suing you by using illegal extortion tactics. I say go for it. They have no legal right to demand money form you without a court order.
  • by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Monday April 04, 2016 @01:52PM (#51839319)

    Sadly, the company's previous tactics haven't worked so well. The company doesn't have many clients, and it posted a net loss of $3.43m in 2015, up from the $2.85m net loss recorded in 2014.

    Why does this text begin with the word " Sadly "? It is certainly not the word that I would use.

    • Because being an American means you are to nurture every corporation and that you want to see them become happy and healthy.
  • The CEO of this company is the Chief Exec of the Jerry Garcia estate. The hippies have grown up!
  • For everyone screaming "How will that work?! That's illegal! It's hacking!" they are not planning to "h[ij]ack your browser."

    They want ISPs' cooperation to hijack and futz with browser traffic and insert popups and warnings and the like.

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