AMC Drops 'Texting Friendly' Theaters Idea (networkworld.com) 150
netbuzz writes: Stung by a ferocious backlash on social media, AMC Entertainment this morning took to Twitter to announce that it will not be experimenting with "texting friendly" movie theaters, a trial balloon floated only days ago by the company's boss. "NO TEXTING AT AMC. Won't happen. You spoke. We listened," the company said.That escalated quickly.
Put your fucking phone away (Score:5, Informative)
Pretty simple, really.
I did one better (Score:3)
I stopped going to movie theaters. Now the $40-50 I spent every time on me a 1-2 kids paid for a large tv and just grab the show on DVD/BR from a pawn shop for $2-5 per disk.
Re: I did one better (Score:2, Informative)
Not everyone has Google Fiber where they live, you stupid asshole.
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Re:I did one better (Score:4, Interesting)
It's kind of odd to me to hear that people still buy DVDs and Blu-Rays in the Golden Age of Streaming.
1. If you want to stay legal, there are WAY more movies available on DVD than via streaming.
2. You can buy used DVDs, watch them, and then sell them for about what you paid for them.
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You can also take DVDs out from the library for free. Well, you pay for it in your taxes but you're going to pay for it anyway and of all the things taxes pay for, libraries are one of my favorites. If a library doesn't have what you're looking for, they might be partnered with a library that does and might be able to request it for you. Some libraries even have game discs for rental. (My oldest is playing The Lego Movie on our WiiU thanks to the local library.)
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But but you actually have to leave the house... Streaming.... Sure technology makes some thing more convenient but call me when the studios will sell me a real download for $1-5 per show which I can own and do with as I wish.
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To pick up the DVDs, I do have to leave the house, but my library has a website and app that I can use to request DVDs. When they arrive, my library will notify me so I can pick them up. Then, when they're due, I can renew them via the website/app to keep them for longer. Our library is close enough that we can incorporate it into pretty much any outing. And my boys love going in to pick out new books to read or just to grab a random movie to watch.
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Not everyone has fast Internet connections to stream. Also, not many people watch stuff online for subscriptions.
Wait till you hear this (Score:3)
I even cancelled Netflix last week since everything I like to watch I already have on 800+ dvd's and they went hard after the DNS providers. To me its weird that people would not flock to pawnshops/fleamarkets and buy new/old dvd for $2-5.
Two weeks ago I got The Tick series DVD for $5 at a flea market. Now I already downloaded it anyways but hey a HD goes the DVD is still there.
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This was just a publicity stunt by AMC. Nothing to see here, just an ad.
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the problem is that the theaters don't make money on the ticket sales.
that all goes to the mpaa studios.
the theaters only make money on concessions.
what they need to do is the offer a handful of theaters per location that allow it and charge extra.
they could block the cell towers and offer wifi, but why bother.
anyway, just my .019 CAD
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Re:Put your fucking phone away (Score:4, Interesting)
I went to my first rock concert in years, and all three bands had adopted the same shtick. Cell phones are the new Bic lighter, and if several thousand people all use the "flashlight" app on their phone at the same time, the amount of ambient light is impressive.
I'm going back inside now, so get off my lawn!
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the amount of ambient light is impressive.
Meh. It is not as impressive as everyone using a 500 Tera-Watt NIF laser [xkcd.com].
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I don't really thing it's the same thing at all.
Now I admit I haven't been to a rock concert in years, but has there ever been one that outright banned said lighters? It seemed to always be encouraged to me.
In that case replacing one OK thing with another similar thing logically should also be OK.
But in the AMC case, we have people who want to go to a movie theater with NO intend to watch the movie and FULL intent to annoy everyone around them.
We call those type of people trolls, and we don't tolerate trol
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I don't really thing it's the same thing at all.
I think you need to re-read the posts you replied to.
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I don't think anybody spends $287.45 for a movie and snacks (a 5-gallon bucket of soda and a 30-gallon bucket of popcorn, which is the small size, and comes with free refills) with no intent to watch the movie. The problem is that most people in the smartphone age have the attention span of a fruit fly. "Movie is slightly slow, let's check Facebook for just one second. Oh look! Cat videos!"
Also, I would like the record to reflect that when they asked me to fire up the "flashlight" app on my phone, I scr
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I have seen quite a few movies and television shows in the last 5 years where the phone is used as a flashlight by people who logically should have real flashlights. Ie, a police investigator looking for clues, someone exploring a cave, etc.
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You could just put an LCD screen in each toilet stall. The people that want to text can sit there.
Re: Put your fucking phone away (Score:2)
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This creates the ability to isolate your chair from the vision of all other movie-goers.
I already have something that does that. It's called my living room. The point of seeing a movie in a theater is that it is a shared experience, and that you are not isolated from other people. Participating in this shared experience requires everyone to adhere to the terms of the same social contract: don't talk, don't smoke, don't yell "FIRE", keep your feet off the seat in front of you, and turn off your damn phone.
Why not? (Score:2, Interesting)
Sounds great. Have texting theatres and no fucking texting in the other theatres. Then there would be no excuse.
I agree (Score:1)
I agree. What would the harm be in giving them a showing or two of the most popular movies, and getting them the fuck out of mine!
Re:Why not? (Score:4, Insightful)
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... we're talking about movies which people pay to watch ...
According to your logic, if there is a market for this, then they should allow texting, and screw you and your concerns.
I know I'll get heat for this, but IMO, it's like smoking areas in restaurants and bars, especially outdoor areas. I don't feel the need to explain this further.
I also suspect that the majority of people that are so adamant about no texting in a theater are also part of the group that regularly uses the word "glasshole" when referring to someone wearing Google Glass. Those same glassholes
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I know I'll get heat for this, but IMO, it's like smoking areas in restaurants and bars, especially outdoor areas. I don't feel the need to explain this further.
I kind of think you do. I was pretty young the last time I saw one of those. They were removed from restaurants, starting with family restaurants, by popular demand, then eventually from the last few holdout bars by law. There are younger people here.
I also remember a problem with the smoking section -- the smoke didn't obey the smoking section boundaries.
I also suspect that the majority of people that are so adamant about no texting in a theater are also part of the group that regularly uses the word "glasshole" when referring to someone wearing Google Glass.
Nobody (to within experimental error) regularly uses the word glasshole.
But anyway, this is different. Texting in a theater necessarily involves point
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In Georgia at least, the law is apparently not "thou shalt not have smoking", it's "thou shalt not have smoking and allow minors"... I know of one restaurant that opted to allow smoking and block minors instead.
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It depends on the implementation. Back in the "smoking section" days (NY has banned smoking in restaurants for years now), we'd be seated in the non-smoking section - two seats over from the smoking section. Smoke doesn't tend to respect imaginary boundaries and we'd still smell the horrible stench all through our meal. If you had a "texting sect
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Re: Why not? (Score:5, Interesting)
Put it this way. If everyone was considerate, dialed the screen brightness all the way down, and set their phone to vibrate, then got up and left the viewing area of the theater to text or talk, that'd be one thing.
But, in general, people are self-centered ASSHOLES.
So we get Big Ben jangling out of a phone at 100 decibels.
Then a strobe light going up in the middle of a theater.
Followed by some asshat going "Yeah! YEAH! I'm at the movies right now! IN THE THEATER! No! I can't hear you! I'm IN THE THEATER!"
Fuck that noise...
"We can't tell 20 year olds to put away their phones..."
YES YOU FUCKING CAN!
For the prices being charged for admission, not to mention the CONCESSIONS, it's not a huge stretch to expect to be able to enjoy a movie uninterrupted by some jackass and their phone.
Seriously, that's the main reason movie theaters still exist! The provide a quiet, controlled environment for showing films!
If Phoneguy McDouchebag is constitutionally incapable of keeping his phone off for 90-120 minutes to watch a movie, he needs to GET THE FUCK OUT!
Not sure why the hell this is such a novel, or hard to grasp concept.
Allowing that sort of stuff to go on in a theater is basically removing the primary reason people still go to movie theaters!
It's actively destructive to the business model.
Because groups like Screening Room can charge you $50 (about the price of ticket and concessions for one person) to stream you a brand new movie on opening day.
So if someone's got a boss home theater setup, they can do Screening Room, invite a dozen friends and supply their own food.
The theater makes NO money. And the industry loses a dozen ticket sales. PER PERSON VIEWING.
I'm glad AMC listened and axed this so fast. Someone eventually elected to use their brain on this subject.
Better late than never...
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Something like this happened in a theater I was at. An opening week for a Star Wars movie, packed theater. Guy had been talking on the phone at the end of the previews and into the start of the movie. He was speaking loud enough for people to hear, not even a whisper. People were standing up and telling the guy to hang up the phone. I was expecting the thrown popcorn, but vventually he says "I gotta go, I'm watching a movie right now."
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Sure, and I'm sure there's a market for those who prefer to felch while watching a movie too.
Doesn't mean it's a large enough segment that it's worthwhile to service...
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I'm accustomed to having access to my phone, but that doesn't mean I am going to use it during a movie. I payed $15 to watch a movie, not to sit in a dark room and send messages to people.
Re: Why not? (Score:5, Insightful)
People are used to pooping, too. They still leave the theater to do it.
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Well they can all switch to the aPhone - which is essentially any smartphone that is inserted into the rectum. Then these people will have the satisfaction of knowing they have their phones close by, and they are no longer disturbing anyone.
. . . and then you could fill the texting theater (Score:2)
. . . . with carbon monoxide or nitrogen, and the species will improve as a whole rather markedly.
And chances are, they'll be so self-absorbed, that they won't even notice they're dead. . .
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Re: Why not? (Score:1)
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There beans, eggs, bacon, sausage, WiFi and spam. It hasn't got much WiFi in it.
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Pretty sure your options are "spam", "spam, spam, and spam", or "spam, spam spam, WiFi, spam, and spam"
But that's got spam in it!
Seriously who thought up this idea? (Score:5, Funny)
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tl;dr: you're an idiot.
Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe I'm missing something. I thought the comments on yesterday's article were quite over the top. Why is it so bad to provide a service to someone who wants it? Nobody is forcing you to go to the auditoriums designated for phone-users.
Just because it's not something you personally like doesn't mean that someone else can't enjoy it.
(For reference, I'm not personally interested in the movie theater concept, so I don't care one way or another. But if this is something that some people want, why not? It hurts nobody.)
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Just because a service *might* be wanted, doesnt mean its a good idea. Next some *other* totally stupid idea will be expected to be implmented. People are stupid, and given half the chance, they'll expect every company to pander to their stupid ideas. If you think it hurts nobody, you're a prime example of why its not a good idea.
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I can only imagine that they were receiving sarcastic suggestions on their comment cards from people who had their experiences ruined by texters and amc took them seriously.
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Well for one it would replace at least one auditoriom that is not currently text friendly.
Also you just paid something like $11 for the ticket alone then however much extra for a snack and a drink. You would think that after all that investment they would actually want to watch the movie they paid for.
If you just want to hang out and text stay in the lobby its cheaper.
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You would think that after all that investment they would actually want to watch the movie they paid for.
How the other guy chooses to spend his $11 experience is up to him as long as it doesn't affect me. He can fall asleep, for all I care.
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If you want a completely distraction free viewing, just wait and watch at home. It's cheaper.
(see, that sort of argument is pretty useless!)
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>If you just want to hang out and text stay in the lobby its cheaper.
For a certain tweenie bopper demographic, it's all about being downtown and hanging out. Actually going to the movie is hugely secondary. Seeing and being seen is what it's all about. Kind of like clubbing but for those too young to get into clubs.
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I suppose I can understand that but many other places they could be.
There is also an arcade in the lobby.
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This was intend as a reply of the last line where it said "why not? It hurts nobody." Yes it would limit everyone else's selection.
I want to equate this to smoking or non smoking rooms and resturaunts but smoking areas seem to have been eliminated entirely and people texting in the theater poses no health concern. (except maybe to the texter)
I'm actually suprised that they didn't go ahead and do a trial run anyway. It might workout but I personally would be more interested in seeing the maximum number of te
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No I don't. I've seen how much they already text in non texting theaters. I don't feel giving them their own texting area would solve the problem. But like I said I'd be interested to see the results of a trial run. Hey make it biased make the texting theater tickets 1$ cheaper each I figure it would still have a lower turnout.
Not sure what you mean there.
Because of seating capacity (Score:2)
If the movie is popular, the normal no-text-allowed theater will sell out because they now have half of their otherwise normal seating capacity. And now some consumers wi
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Actually, it might have been very well thought out. AMC may be getting some static from vocal ID10Ts who want to be allowed to ruin everybody else's experience at the theater and are demanding to be allowed to use their phones during the movies. Simply ignoring them won't work because they're too self-centered and selfish to accept the fact that they're not being allowed to act like spoiled children. Now, however, AMC can point to the fact that they did consider giv
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd guess perhaps because it validates this sort of rude, narcissistic behavior rather than shames it?
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I'd guess perhaps because it validates this sort of rude, narcissistic behavior rather than shames it?
I really don't understand this argument. Social norms are defined by communities. If people are in a community of like-minded people, who don't mind others' texting at movies, how are they being "rude" or "narcissistic"?
Don't get me wrong: I find such behavior in "normal" theaters to be obnoxious. But if they want to have their own theater where they can do this, why should it bother me? Why should I feel the need to shame someone who isn't even doing the behavior I find "shameful" in my presence?
I
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Given that so many people apparently thought this was a terrible idea, it's pretty clear that texting in theaters is not yet a "social norm". And the reason I call it "narcissistic" is because the people that currently do this are either unaware or simply don't care that it annoys others. That sounds pretty self-centered to me. So, I suspect the idea of catering to those people tends to rub those who have been annoyed by them in the past the wrong way.
Also, to clarify, I'm not personally making this argu
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Why is it so bad to provide a service to someone who wants it?
Geez, isn't it obvious?! Idiocracy wasn't an instruction manual! We need to be stamping that shit out, not encouraging it.
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I thought the comments on yesterday's article were quite over the top. Why is it so bad to provide a service to someone who wants it? Nobody is forcing you to go to the auditoriums designated for phone-users.
It's not an issue until it:
a) removes options for the traditional alternatives i.e. 3D movies, do you know how hard it is to find a standard session of a major blockbuster nowadays. The last thing I need is those options to be further reduced because half of them are yack on the phone sessions.
b) legitimises perceived anti-social behaviour. Like seriously this isn't a product. Unless your idea of a product is telling people it's okay to be an unbearable thundercunt at a movie disturbing others who paid good
Sounds like a PR stunt (Score:4)
Sounds like this was just a PR stunt to remind people that movie theaters still exist. I think I've only seen 2 movies in a theater (and one of those was a work event) since I got my 55" 1080p TV + Bluray + surround sound, there's not much reason to see a movie in a theater anymore, I prefer the experience I get at home (where there's an open bar and the movie will pause for bathroom breaks and if anyone talks over the movie, I can rewind). And the blu-ray costs about the same as a pair of movie tickets. When 4K content is more readily available (the TV's are already available and relatively affordable), that will mean even less reason to go to a theater.
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Hahaha. What happened is you got older, gramps. You are not the first old guy to complain about the younger generation's manners.
The theaters are doing just fine. (Score:2)
Sounds like this was just a PR stunt to remind people that movie theaters still exist. I think.
Book the right movies and you can fill a lot of seats.
Currently Zootopia is the highest grossing film of 2016. Just with the six [animated] films released since the beginning of the 2010s, Disney has gained $3,855,100,000; this is more than the total gross of Disney's Renaissance Era.
'Zootopia': The Highest Grossing Film of 2016! [rotoscopers.com]
Good Thinking, AMC! (Score:3)
The last time I heard about texting in a theater, someone got shot [cnn.com]. Imagine the guy at AMC doing a late Google search on theater texting and finding this. Uh, Boss, maybe this really isn't such a great idea.
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Nooo! Not dots! Use jordan almonds for that. Or raisinets.
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Medicine balls?
Dropped for now (Score:2)
Sure, I don't like the idea, but it all depends on who is buying the tickets. Every day more kids with no memory of what movie going etiquette used to be get their first smart phones. Times change.
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Ten years from now we may not even have theaters.
For one you can buy a 70" tv at walmart today. How big will they be in 10 years?
Netflix and redbox were able to kill blockbuster I think its only a matter of time until the on demand services are able to kill off the smaller theaters.
The theater here in town closed a few years back so its now 25 miles to the nearest theater.
But that's fine if the experience degrades to nothing I just won't go anymore.
I rarely go now but thats mainly due to the distance and co
The texting friendly theatre (Score:3)
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It's called Netflix.
Backwards. Netflix is where you aren't choosing to sit in a room full of 100's of other random people expecting them all to behave exactly as you'd like.
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No, he has the right of it. Polite society has rules. If you expect to enjoy a night out without getting your teeth knocked in, you obey them.
Your right to free speech/action ends where the person you offends' fist begins.
Can't believe they even considered it (Score:2)
The single biggest reason I don't go to theatres anymore is because the other movie goers drive me nuts. Between talking, texting, getting up to pee (requiring everyone to shuffle and shimmy to make room for the person to get out) or bringing a baby that then starts wailing half way through the movie, etc, it's just not worth the constantly rising ticket price.
Maybe if theatre chains were more like the Alamo Drafthouse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3eeC2lJZs), overall ticket sales would be much higher
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I like the Alamo Drafthouse for exactly those reasons. Need to pee? easy to crouch and duck past people without bumping their legs, especially if you sit at a break between tables. Food and drink? On par with any decent eatery. I am more than happy to pay the Alamo Drafthouse their due because I can sit and watch a movie. No screaming kids, no texting, no people yapping on cell phones.
I understand other people have a sentiment that they should be allowed to do what they so choose anywhere, even if it
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bringing a baby that then starts wailing half way through the movie
I've never had a big problem with texters where I attend the movies, but nothing irritates me more than when some fucking moronic parents bring their toddler or younger child into the theater with them. The kid isn't going to pay attention to the movie and won't like being cooped up and sitting still for 2 hours, the parent isn't going to enjoy the movie while dealing with aforementioned squawking child, and everyone else that has to listen to the squawking are going to be pissed off.
If you can afford to g
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This. I've had movies ruined by non-parental parents bringing their children as tag-alongs to late-night R-rated movies that children have no business seeing. These idiot-parents act all surprised and hurt that their sleepy kid goes into a screaming fit, kicking the seat in front and puking on a stomach-full of candy and artificial popcorn butter. And just think... if it survives, that kid's part of the future of America!
And if, the theaters actually enforced the rules (Score:1)
Alamo Drafthouse is the only chain that I'm aware of that actually throws people out for the second offense. Use your phone once, you get a warning, use it twice you are escorted to the door without refund.
If more theaters actually did that.. cellphone use would no longer be an issue.
I'd pay extra for.... (Score:2)
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Shouldn't have to pay for that, it should be a built-in FEATURE of seeing a movie in a theatre. Or ballet, or opera, or classical symphony. Wouldn't work for rock shows but hey, gotta start somewhere.
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...bouncers. That's right, gorilla-sized bouncers with sharp eyes and authority to deny admission or throw you the fuck out if you text, talk, film, fart, kick seats, throw food, twitch, got bad B.O., or attempt to sneak a toddler into an R-rated movie or any movie after 8 PM.
Alamo Drafthouse had the right idea (Score:2)
I don't get it, why so much hate... (Score:2)
abusing your cusotmers (Score:2)
first you bill me $22.50 for a ticket. It's an additional $25 for popcorn & drinks. Then I sit through 20 minutes of ads (scorn) and a few movie previews (yay).
but you float this idea of taking me out of the willful suspension of belief, thinking it will be a better business model to ruin the movie-going experience?
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--$22.50 for 1 movie ticket? Dafuq do you live, New York? You never go to a matinee??
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Well when you are in a dark auditorium and someone goes to tapping away a text on their 8" display smartphone max brightness its rather noticeable even when your not looking that direction.
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If the phone is in the lap you aren't going to see it unless you're looking down over their shoulder or sitting beside them.
Simply not true at all.
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Would that it were so. But even if the light doesn't have a direct path it's likely to have multiple indirect paths, and so that whole area looks lighter, which is pretty noticeable if your eyes are adapted to the dark.
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