Today Marks The 50th Anniversary of 'Star Trek' (ew.com) 204
Dave Knott writes: Today marks the 50th anniversary of the first television broadcast of Star Trek. The first episode of the science fiction series was aired on September 8, 1966. From its humble beginnings, Star Trek has gone on to become one of the best-loved and most successful television concepts of all time, an enduring pop culture touchstone that changed science fiction forever and spawned multiple series and movies that continue to this day. What does Star Trek mean to you? Are you a trekkie/trekker? What are your best memories of the series, and how has it affected your life?
Before the reboot (Score:4, Insightful)
Before the reboot it was awesome.
I even have books that most trekkers don't know about like "Spock Must Die".
After the reboot, having kirk and spock looking longingly at each other and Uhura emerging as a the true power in the ship just makes me hope that trek passes away.
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Re:Before the reboot (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm the opposite. I watched some episodes from each of the Star Trek TV series and I think I saw most of the movies, but it never really caught my fancy. But I've _really_ enjoyed the rebooted Star Trek movies. Speaking to other I've found that most Trekkies really don't like the Star Trek reboot, while those who were not Trekkies before like the rebooted movies. Maybe that indicates the rebooted movies aren't "real" Star Trek. I don't really know since I've never been a Trekkie ;-)
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Reality is 'Jar Jar A' pretty much killed Star Trek with the crap he produced (not dumbed down by the way, simply as smart as he is capable of producing, strictly second set work). As can be seen by the last entry that pretty much every just ignored, why bother, more of the same crap, Star Trek is dead, we need a new anniversary for it's funeral. Jar Jar is now killing off Star Wars, nepotism, pays for more PR=B$ in main stream media, than anything else, trying to make incompetent spawn look great. How man
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Reality is 'Jar Jar A' pretty much killed Star Trek
Yes, especially when he regenerated into the Doctor and crashed the Delorean into the side of the Star Gate whilst fleeing Serenity.
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You mean when he was using the Triluminary ?
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I thought it was Scorpius?
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Re:Before the reboot (Score:5, Informative)
Maybe that indicates the rebooted movies aren't "real" Star Trek. I don't really know since I've never been a Trekkie ;-)
Hey, you figured it out. It's not that you like the new Star Trek and don't really care for the old Star Trek -- it's that you just don't like Star Trek. But you like action sci-fi movies, and these just happen to have characters and settings that were borrowed from Star Trek.
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Fans of the two are very different. The new movies are just action flicks set in space. The originals are dramas with big ideas and an interesting model of the future.
For example, the original shows are post-race, post-feminist, there is no money or personal wealth for most people, Star Fleet is a meritocracy with a nominally military structure but that's as far as it goes. The new movies don't really have any of that, and in fact Uhura has been relegated to the nagging girlfriend.
You can't really compare t
Re: Before the reboot (Score:2)
Also, the first airing was on September 6th, in Canada, nor September 8th in the US. If US ratings had matched Canadian ratings over the 3 year run, the Enterprise would have completed its 5 year mission. The show had cheesy special effects but it didn't need CGI to distract viewers from lousy (or nonexistent) storylines, or the too-earnest political correctness infusing everything that made me avoid the next generation aft
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The point isn't that people couldn't/didn't use money. It was that the vast majority in the Federation didn't use money because it was a largely post-scarcity society. For things that were still scarce, meritocracy or a simple FIFO with level of rationing was included. In the end, though, there's always people with the means to buy and get ahead of the line.
Many episodes in TOS point to a currency based system...
"Mudd's Women", Mudd babbles about miner's being rich enough to buy a planet or a starship...
"The Devil in the Dark" they also talked about the horta making the operation a 1000 times more profitable and making they embarrassingly rich
"The Trouble with Tribbles" there were credits for tribbles and drinks...
"Requiem for Methuselah" asserted Holberg 917-G (the planet) was purchased only thirty years earlier by Brack, a private investor...
All of this sugg
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For example, the original shows are post-race, post-feminist, ...
Were they? I don't remember any female starship captains, except the sexy Romulan babe in "The Enterprise Incident."
Re:Before the reboot (Score:4, Interesting)
Star Trek: Usually explores morality at it's core. Plot built around a moral conundrum. May be fleshed out with action and explosions at times, but really, the show is about exploring humanity more than it is exploring space.
Reboot Star Trek: Just string a bunch of action sequences together and add a bunch of computer generated graphics. Plot optional.
I don't have a problem with action movies. Look at how popular the super-hero movies are. Star Trek was never about action and explosions; it was a more thoughtful show. This may have made it rather niche (TNG was criticized as being a show about people sitting in meetings making decisions) and sometimes Star Trek blows chunks (like anytime they try and do romance)- but JJ's Star Trek was simply not Star Trek- it was spiderman in space..
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Throw in "In the Pale Moonlight" from DS9.
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Dr Polaski wasn't my favourite, but I never liked Dr. Crusher. There was something about her that really irritated me. There's usually one main character on each series that I really don't like.
I never liked Bones. (OK - this is a stretch... he was OK- but I'm trying to make a point so had to include him)
I never liked Dr. Crusher. (I think it was her voice)
I never liked Quark (or any Ferrengi - too flat, stereotyped and cliché)
I never liked Tom Paris (too cheesy, and probably the worst actor from
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Spock Must Die! was a brilliant novel (disclaimer: James Blish fan here). Too bad it could never have been canon, due to locking up the Klingons at the end.
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Weird and a waste of time on every level IMHO. In the original Uhura, Scotty and so on were all awesome at what they did which is enough for everyone who doesn't want to put their "mark" on the story by adding an unlikely twist.
To me it seems like stuff that would have been hounded out of fanfiction ended up in the recent movies.
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The reboot feels a lot like a bunch of crappy Mary-Sue [wikipedia.org] fanfic characters thrown together.
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Star Trek isn't really suited to movies. There is an ensemble cast and not enough screen time to give most of them any real development or insight. The new ones have the added hindrance of needing to stop for massive action sequences and making it hard to see the actor's faces with bad lighting and fast editing.
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Well, Star Trek works maybe better in terms of character development as a series. I mean, look at TNG and how the characters evolved over time. Riker especially. Sure, a lot of it was the actors settling in and getting a "feel" for the character, but it's nice to see that they do develop and get their edges and quirks, and we maybe get to explore their flaws a little and how they might overcome them. That is of course easier done in a weekly 45minute show than in 2 hour movies once in a while.
But I'm sorry,
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Weird and a waste of time on every level IMHO. In the original Uhura, Scotty and so on were all awesome at what they did which is enough for everyone who doesn't want to put their "mark" on the story by adding an unlikely twist. To me it seems like stuff that would have been hounded out of fanfiction ended up in the recent movies.
Are you complaining that it's crappy or are you complaining that the reboot isn't exactly like the original down to the dialog, set designs 1960s special effects and the grainy texture of mid to late 20th century recording technology? I certainly have some issues with the reboot, such as a Cadet Kirk being promoted to captain of one of Star Fleet's capital ships but the reboot still isn't that bad. The original series had some gaping plot holes and various plot defects as well.
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Both really.
Crappy plus a totally different setting where starships can park underwater, belts can teleport you across the galaxy and Klingons are weaklings to beat up on. A vast way from "exactly" - why stay in orbit in hundreds of episodes when you can just land in a lake?
The reboots are not self-consistent even within the span of an hour or two.
The reboot depends both on fan memory and then brings
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... why stay in orbit in hundreds of episodes when you can just land in a lake?
Or, more specifically, if you're trying to hide from an indigenous species w/o optical technology, like telescopes, why hide in the ocean right next to their town when you can hide in orbit (with less power and potential ship damage) to boot? Other than way-cool special-effects being more important in a JJ Abrams film than, well, anything else.
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The reboot is ageist as hell. Everyone's about the same age.
To be fair, the real ages of most of the principals on TOS were fairly close, but the portrayed ages varied, from the aging Doctor and mature Senior Engineer, to the Captain who's young for his rank and reputation, down to seasoned junior officers and bottoming out with a junior Ensign and Yeoman. And then there's the Vulcan, who's likely on par with Scotty in terms of chronological age, experience and wisdom but presumed biologically pubescent. Al
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Re: Before the reboot (Score:2)
TNG was shot on 35mm. CGI was done on video however.
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Are you complaining that it's crappy or are you complaining that the reboot isn't exactly like the original down to the dialog,
Naw, they're totally Trek-like. That second one really got exactly what I always loved about Spock just perfect: the way he'd fly into a rage and then hold his enemies down and punch them in the face over and over again, almost killing them with his bare hands.
The original series had some gaping plot holes and various plot defects as well.
The second reboot movie (Into Darkness) is by far the worst, as there's more hole than plot. But really the new movies are just...bad (the new one, Beyond, is the least bad though). And I mean that just from a Screenwriting 101, story point of view. F
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It's actually the Annheuser-Busch brewery. Yes, the engine room of the new Enterprise was designed for the manufacture of expensive packaged urine-substitute.
Re: Before the reboot (Score:2)
Mirror universe will never be on the big screen... (Score:2)
Or even the mirror universe would be cool.
Not in this incarnation anyway.
Too confusing for "mainstream audiences" while being completely outside of what said audience knows about Star Trek and feels comfortable with based on the cultural osmosis alone.
While watching Star Trek characters jumping around on dirt bikes like Evel Knievel as "Sabotage" by Beastie Boys blares out of the speakers.
You know... Star Trek.
Similarly, patching up of the time line will never happen.
For the same reason that Robert Duncan McNeill plays the same character on TNG and
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After the reboot, having kirk and spock looking longingly at each other and Uhura emerging as a the true power in the ship just makes me hope that trek passes away.
Trek was very transgressive for its day. It doesn't seem like it now, because a lot of their pie-in-the-sky stuff, like women and minorities completely accepted in the workforce, a commitment to diversity as a positive good, respect for other cultures rather than insisting on transforming them into clones of ours, became standard societal orthodoxy in the last 50 years. But back in the 1960's these were really radical ideas. The same year Trek started, freaking George Wallace won 5 states running on a platf
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You got that backwards, in that scene Shatner is the supporting actor. And he hardly qualifies for "best".
Wouldn't be me without it. (Score:2)
Some of my earliest and fondest television memories were watching TOS re-runs. Spock was my 1st TV hero.
Good plot hooks (Score:5, Insightful)
TOS set the technology up with some really good plot hooks. Things like:
You can't beam someone onboard while the shields are up.
You can go to distant planets, but it still takes considerable time.
The transporters are sensitive, finicky things that tend to break.
All of these make great places to hang plot from, such as:
So item #1 makes for a tense situation when you're in a shuttlecraft (or on the planet) while the ship is facing off an enemy.
Item #2 means you might not get there in time (KIRK: Make a challenge. Warn that ship off. UHURA: Trying to, sir. They don't acknowledge.)
Item #3 means you might get stranded on the ship after you've set it to blow up.
Compare with the modern reboot movies, where you can beam from Earth to another planet using a transporter the size of a duffel bag, starships that can hide underwater, and magic serum from Khan's blood that will bring someone back from the dead.
The modern reboot movies think sacrificing the technology makes for good plot, but it's just the opposite: Good plot will be based on the limitations of the technology.
Consider: How can anyone get emotionally involved in someone's death, knowing that they can be brought back to life now using Khan's blood?
(Let's not mention a red liquid that can turn a planet into a black hole, delivered by hand using a big syringe. Or a cold fusion bomb that can't be remote armed, has to be assembled and armed by hand while standing at the place of detonation. Or a bomb the size of a class ring that can take out a building. Or beaming from a planet onto a ship that's been at warp for a couple of hours using a formula that considers the ship and the planet stationary while the space between them moves.)
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I don't know about that... It seems to me that in the pre-reboot series they could overcome any technical limitation simply by reversing the polarity.
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And if everything failed, send a reverse tachyon impulse through subspace.
Let's be honest, like it or not, but 99% of all problems were solved by technobabble.
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The absolutely stupidest and most implausible technology was the "Genesis Project" that instantaneously caused 4 billion years of evolution by launching one projectile. Oh, and it was created by one person working alone.
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They explored resurrection in a couple of episodes of Voyager.
In one episode (Mortal Coil) Neelix is killed on an away mission. Seven performs some Borg magic and he's back again but haunted by the afterlife.
In another (Ashes 2 Ashes), Harry's girlfriend returns a couple of years after dying, having been reincarnated as an alien and having to choose.
Re: Good plot hooks (Score:2)
Galaxy Quest the greatest ST film ever!!
Re:Good plot hooks (Score:4, Insightful)
Or a power loss causing the ring of floating objects in orbit to plummet. After the idiotic body surfing from one ship to another.
And then there was the giant wrestling thing with the ships core - which Galaxy Quest Firmly slapped down years earlier because the whole notion was stupid.
My favourite from Galaxy quest was the chompers [youtube.com]. After beaming onboard the Enterprise, Scotty is inside the coolant tube heading for the spinning blades of death.
As the review "Everything Wrong With Star Trek [youtube.com]" points out, [the spinning blade contraption [youtu.be]] is just as useless and stupid as the chompers in Galaxy quest, except *this* star trek movie isn't a parody.
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Eh, I could actually see a reason for that machine, except the reason would require similar machines inside the tubes themselves which means the scene still doesn't work.
Logical fallacy (Score:2)
Iirc, transporting at warp was something tos Scotty did
When a ship is travelling away from a planet, considering the ship and planet stationary and space itself as moving doesn't quite make logical sense now, does it?
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Yes, and it was shown time and again that it is a BAD idea to do so and if it's not an emergency you should NOT do it. You should have a Scotty operating the beamer if you wanted to have a chance for success, too.
Re: Good plot hooks (Score:4)
based on how the transporters are supposed to work all you should need is a high enough bandwidth data connection
As I understand it, it's actually supposed to transport your original matter, rather than just taking you to bits at one end, junking your mass, and reassembling you from a pool of matter at the other end. Otherwise how would it work when one end of the transport is not on a pad?
"I'm sorry Commander Riker, we ran out of carbon while you were coming in, so we printed your dick a bit smaller."
"You can't beam up while the shields are up"
I always thought that one was down to the effect of shields, rather than a power limitation - or else, again, why is it usually impossible for other ships to send in boarding parties via transporter when your shields are up - they don't have their power being drained by *their* shields. Which makes sense - shields block beams of energy, the transporter beam is a beam of energy, therefore beaming through a shield means you get scattered into a burst of microwaves.
"Romulan and Klingon ships cannot fire when cloaked."
Again, probably not due to a power limitation - we're talking about a system that bends all radiation emissions around the ship, negating even active sensors (but ... not enemy weapons fire.. maybe it's energy handling ability is limited) - firing a weapon from inside such a field could feasibly have some complex and unpredictable effects. Maybe the radiation gets bent right back at you. Maybe it blows out all the cloaking systems if you do it, causing console explosions across the ship that kill all your crew.
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I'm presuming that the matter being used is sub-atomic, where you don't have to worry so much about too much sodium and not enough carbon, But then I always assumed that they were taking E=mc^2 to its logical conclusion so actual physical matter in any form wouldn't be required to start with.
As for beaming through shields, I can't walk through closed doors, either.
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Beaming with the shields up does make sense when you consider beaming a transfer of information by means of a beam (hence the name), which a shield designed to block incoming damage by lasers and similar devices would make impossible. If you want to question something, then questioning how your own beam weapons are able to function while your shields are up would be a far more sensible question.
As for why cloaked ships cannot fire weapons... good questions, I have no idea how the cloaking device of Romulan
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(Hell in the Franklin in the latest movie was embedded in rock and completely powered down but still maintained antimatter containment somehow... No Boom!)
Yeah, but remember in TOS they had to beam down anti-matter (contained in a magnetic bottle)? Spock said something about it have more energy that 1000 cobalt bomb. Those magnetic bottle are self powering. What few anti-matter atoms that escape are enough to power it, constantly re-generating the H field. It's a self sustaining feedback loop.
Gotta say it (Score:2)
KKKHHHHHAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
Okay, for the benefit of Slashdot's ironically named lameness filte - you have to understand that some things just require yelling.
Re:Gotta say it (Score:5, Funny)
Or as William Shattner just had to say:
I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME!
I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves?
You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl?
I didn't think so! There's a whole world out there! When I was your age, I didn't watch television! I LIVED! So... move out of your parent's basements! And get your own apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just a TV show dammit, IT'S JUST A TV SHOW!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Still believe DS9 to be the best (Score:5, Informative)
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Never attribute to political correctness what can be sufficiently be explained with bad acting.
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They aired Episode 1, "The Man Trap" on TV today.
Uhura was flirting heavily with Spock on the bridge and not reciprocated. So Kirk was definitely not her first choice.
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Have also been watching TOS for the first time. After mostly seeing her in the movies, it surprises me just what a sex kitten Uhura is. She's way more attractive than the token blonde.
Bad opinion theater (Score:4, Funny)
Kate Mulgrew was the best Kirk.
COME AT ME
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Kate Mulgrew was the best Kirk.
COME AT ME
I know you're joking, but it really is a shame Voyager did such a bad job in the casting. Without all the awful actors Voyager would have been a good show. The doctor was the only good actor on that show. (I had a fondness for 7 of 9, but it might not have been because of her acting ability).
Compare the actors from TNG to Voyager- there is a huge gulf in acting ability. Voyager probably had better writers but the poor acting made it go flat.
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Really?
Kate Mulgrew an equal to Patrick Stewart?
Robert Duncan McNeill *shudder* an equal to Brent Spiner?
Tim Russ anywhere near as good as Michael Dorn?
Robert Beltran *ugh* as good as Jonathan Frakes (ok he wasn't the best either)
The actors chosen for Voyager were absolutely terrible. I actually quite liked voyager (after first few seasons) but that is DESPITE the acting. The acting was wooden and amateurish.
Early on, in the iTunes Store (Score:2)
Back when the iTunes Store first started selling TV shows, you could get each entire season from TOS for about $12 each. At the time, they weren't on Netflix or anywhere else I could locate; so even though money was tight right then - I bought all three (and immediately stripped out the DRM).
The price jumped dramatically just a Week or two later... but I'm still amazed the seasons were ever that cheap.
Barely mentioned anywhere... (Score:3)
The news essentially ignored it. There is nothing on TV, no show marathons or special programs. Google didn't even do a doodle for it. What a bummer... I didn't even find out about it until I saw a buried story about the 50th anniversary. I guess Trek really has fallen off the face of the earth, and its influence has truly waned. That is a real shame.
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Actually, the SyFy channel was having a Star Trek movie marathon last night.
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BBC America ran Seasons 1 & 2 of TOS starting at 8pm last night.
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Hmm... considering that the rebooted Star Trek is full of such perfect, politically correct Mary Sues, Google should be all over it.
Earliest Star Trek memory (Score:2)
It was in re-runs (I'm not *that* old) and The Changling came on. That's the "I am Nomad" episode if you're like me and had to google it. I was a kid though. I just saw the first part. I think it took a while for Star Trek to "click" since I was a kid and some things went over my head. The thing that makes this episode stand out is not even the episode itself. I only saw the first part that evening. There was this *thing* on the transporter pad and... we had to go out to dinner. I didn't want to go
As Spock says... (Score:2)
"live long and propser". Star Trek forever even if its newer ones suck.
I celebrated by watching The Man Trap (Score:2)
...followed by this thought: "Has it really been 50 years? Have I become this old?"
It has, and I have.
I first saw Star Trek TOS in black and white, in Caracas, dubbed into Spanish. This must've been around 1973 or 74. Later on I got to see most of TOS in color and in English. Read a lot of the novels, watched all the films, saw all of Next Generation.. and then I lost interest.
What Trek taught me? IDIC, which I have to remind myself of -- I am prone to dislike diversity, then I remember IDIC. That li
What Star Trek should be (Score:3)
http://startrekcontinues.com/ [startrekcontinues.com]
JJ and the reboot of 'Star Trek' make mediocre action films, but they aren't Star Trek anymore.
It was the day science fiction got real (Score:5, Interesting)
As a very young boy, I exhausted the children's area of our small-town library in no time. With my parents' permission and a wonderful librarian, I was allowed to start getting books from the Adults' floor. I was a complete science fiction addict. I went through the whole section. I was even allowed to read stories like Farmer's "The Lovers" and Sturgeon's "Venus Plus X", which at the time were considered very definitely not for children.
I was thoroughly familiar with concepts that are now almost trite, but at the time were pretty much limited to the science fiction community: preserving time lines to preserve reality, the implications of faster-than-light spaceships, matter transmission, parallel universes and a lot more. Television science fiction (except Outer Limits and Twilight Zone) bored me to tears, and Lost In Space made me sick. My parents couldn't figure out why I loved SF books so much, but had no time for "Fireball XL-5".
Then, just as summer was winding down, the networks started promoting the new TV shows for the coming season. And there was Star Trek. Even the very limited "trailers" made it clear this was going to be something different. It delivered in spades. All of the stuff I'd been reading about was brought to life, and I got to watch my family and friends catch onto the same things that had held me spellbound for a good part of my short life. And most important, Star Trek made it clear that we'd get through all the evil and ugliness we saw around us...Vietnam, the assassinations, the Cold War. It was looking pretty bleak there, for a while.
And it also did what science fiction was supposed to do: hold up a mirror to problems in our own world we didn't often discuss openly. Plus (huge bonus) some of the seriously imaginative science fiction writers whose work I loved were writing episodes. My mother, who was a tough, capable woman, cried like a baby at the end of "The City at the Edge of Forever", and my dad was very quiet. They'd both lived through WWII (my dad served with the RAF), and they both knew just how close Hitler came to winning.
But it was that first view of the first promo I remember best...when my sister and I were sitting on the living room floor playing a card game and I looked at the TV and just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
All these years later, I know how lucky I was to see it happen through a child's eyes.
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You're very welcome.
What was once uncool, becomes cool. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm very close to 40.
When I was a kid I watched reruns of ToS on TV and some of my dads VHS tapes he got suckered into buying at $30 a pop from some subscription, with only 3 eps per tape. I loved it and I enjoyed sporadically watching TnG as it aired.
Eventually I became a dumb angsty later teen and thought Star Wars was what's cool and Trek was dumb / lame.
As I've gotten older (well 20 years later) and every god damned movie and TV show has taken on a "dark edgey tone" and I've finally started to not give a shit if someone calls me a dork! or nerd! I can accept Star Trek as god damn cool, because it was so out there, it's camp, it's silly, it's great. The humour can be fantastic and the nerdiness I don't need to feel ashamed about. When Star Trek is funny I laugh with it, when it's bad I laugh with it "oh that silly old Star Trek!"
At the core of Star Trek though is that Roddenberry philosophy of an almost utopian future. I can respect that, more and more as I age. As I see the world around me slip in to eventual chaos, the environment becoming a disgrace, capitalism, greed and globalization becoming more intense, the world is becoming a very very dark place and I think it's not going to end well, Star Trek is a welcome, fantasy relief of what would happen if almost all humans all did the right thing, for humanity and the universe not just for themselves.
Heck when I see a 1966 show talk in metres and kilometres and not have smoking on the show despite the lost potential revenue from product placement because that's how it would be in the utopian future, I can see why Gene is so lauded as a visionary.
A great show that I'm finally proud to say I'm a big fan of.
Best memory eh? (Score:2)
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Also the fact that the entire original series, and the movies leading up to 3, were about Kirk wanting nothing more than his career and ship, but he throws it all away, without a second thought, for Spock. No debate, no waffling, doesn't even think about it.
And on the other hand, no hamming it up, no chewing the scenery, no 'Dammit, I LOVE this ship, but SPOCK...NEEDS....ME.'
changed my life, and my children's (Score:2)
When I discovered that my girlfriend liked Star Trek, I bought a small color TV so I could entice her to come to my apartment to watch the original series. We both cheered when NBC announced that there would be a third season.
We were married in 1968 and had two children. We raised them in a very technology-friendly household. They played with my Apple II when I was at work. Today they both have Computer Science degrees and good jobs in the industry.
When my son got married I ended the customary father-of
My favorite stories (Score:2)
There are a lot of stories looking back Trek TOS floating around because of the 50th anniverseray. My favorites are:
Lucile Ball was the first trekkie [blastr.com]. Yes, Lucile Ball, your new geek overlord.
MLK said he was a Trekkie. Wouldn't let Michelle Nickhols leave the show. [npr.org] MLK, blerd before it was cool.
Re:My favorite stories (Score:5, Informative)
Lucile Ball was the first trekkie [blastr.com]. Yes, Lucile Ball, your new geek overlord.
Basic gist here is that it was her production company that initially got it produced and sold, and the one person at that company that was sold on the vision of the show was in fact Lucile Ball herself. At one point her whole board voted to can the show, because they were a small company and already had 3 shows on their plate. There would have been no Trek. She vetoed them.
MLK said he was a Trekkie. Wouldn't let Michelle Nickhols leave the show. [npr.org] MLK, blerd before it was cool.
Ms. NICHOLS: I went in to tell Gene Roddenberry that I was leaving after the first season, and he was very upset about it. And he said, take the weekend and think about what I am trying to achieve here in this show. You're an integral part and very important to it. And so I said, yes, I would. And that - on Saturday night, I went to an NAACP fundraiser, I believe it was, in Beverly Hills. And one of the promoters came over to me and said, Ms. Nichols, there's someone who would like to meet you. He says he is your greatest fan.
And I'm thinking a Trekker, you know. And I turn, and before I could get up, I looked across the way and there was the face of Dr. Martin Luther King smiling at me and walking toward me. And he started laughing. By the time he reached me, he said, yes, Ms. Nichols, I am your greatest fan. I am that Trekkie.
(Soundbite of laughter)
Ms. NICHOLS: And I was speechless. He complimented me on the manner in which I'd created the character. I thanked him, and I think I said something like, Dr. King, I wish I could be out there marching with you. He said, no, no, no. No, you don't understand. We don't need you on the - to march. You are marching. You are reflecting what we are fighting for. So, I said to him, thank you so much. And I'm going to miss my co-stars.
And his face got very, very serious. And he said, what are you talking about? And I said, well, I told Gene just yesterday that I'm going to leave the show after the first year because I've been offered - and he stopped me and said: You cannot do that. And I was stunned. He said, don't you understand what this man has achieved? For the first time, we are being seen the world over as we should be seen. He says, do you understand that this is the only show that my wife Coretta and I will allow our little children to stay up and watch. I was speechless.
Yes, MLK was a (self-identified!) Trekkie.
I favor TOS (Score:2)
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that the 50th anniversary of Star Trek generates so few comments on Slashdot...
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Kirk outlived Mork...
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Shatner will outlive them all...
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Denny Crane!
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You know the saying, only the good die young.
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Jeri Ryan still looks pretty good too...
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Sulu and Chekov have been deleted from this timeline before Bones, Scotty and Spock died.
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Only Kirk is still kicking
Well, yeah, if you mean "out of Kirk and the ones who have died."
Walter Koenig, George Takei, and Nichelle Nichols are all still alive.
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LSD and the SyFy Channel don't mix, dude.
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Let's see how it does 2-3 decades from now.
Any movie that just got out with latest technology and effects will do great in cinema. If it has a good franchise name to its back, only the better. But what when the new car smell is gone?
Yes, the studio probably won't give a shit. Do they care that people still love to watch old Star Trek movies and keep watching the shows? Nah. They already sold the DVDs and BluRays, they don't really care whether you watch them or whether they collect dust on the shelf, they g
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Yuppers! CTV...and I was tuned in 10 minutes early to make sure I didn't miss one second of it. And it converted my whole family into SF fans, too.
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"Elementary, my dear Data" from TNG branded itself in my memory...at that time I was not very well versed in philosophy and science; somehow it moved me very much. The exchange at the end between Picard and Moriarty was ground shaking. The actor playing Moriarty was superb! I think, therefore I am - the one criterion that really matters....wow!
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I concur - my own dark sense of optimism was formed at the Age of 2 thru 4 during the initial run of the show. After that, I refilled periodically with reruns...
I think this is what differentiates this 'border' generation (tweeners) - they were at the right age to absorb and appreciate Star Trek deeper than they consciously knew at the time. These are the people holding together the technological world today as the boomers go off and retire not really understanding it, and the generations that have foll