Crowdfunding Campaign Seeks a Libre Recording of a Newly-Completed Bach Work (kickstarter.com) 87
Slashdot reader DevNull127 writes: Robert Douglass's Kickstarter campaigns have resulted in free fan-funded open source recordings of Bach's Goldberg Variations and the 48 pieces in his Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 1. "Even Richard Stallman found these recordings, and he promptly wrote an email encouraging us to drop the word 'Open' in favor of 'Free' or 'Libre'," Douglas tells BoingBoing (adding "when RMS writes you telling you to change the name of your music project, you change the name of your music project.")
Now Douglass is crowdfunding a libre recording of Bach's last masterpiece, 20 fugues developed from a single theme called "the Art of the Fugue". "He wanted to culminate in a final fugue that literally spells his name, B-A-C-H, in musical notation," remembers Douglass, but "unfortunately, Bach died before completing that work, and it has remained a musical mystery (and tragedy) for hundreds of years." Fortunately Kimiko Ishizaka completed the work in 2016, "based on the music that Bach left us... This new composition will also be released under a Creative Commons license as part of the new OpenScore.cc project... Kimiko is eminently grateful to her fans and supporters of free culture for allowing her to focus all of her energies on growing the public domain and bringing the music of J.S. Bach to a far broader audience than ever imagined."
They're also rewarding supporters with tickets to two live performances -- one at Carnegie Hall in New York City and one in Hamburg's new Elbphilharmonie.
Now Douglass is crowdfunding a libre recording of Bach's last masterpiece, 20 fugues developed from a single theme called "the Art of the Fugue". "He wanted to culminate in a final fugue that literally spells his name, B-A-C-H, in musical notation," remembers Douglass, but "unfortunately, Bach died before completing that work, and it has remained a musical mystery (and tragedy) for hundreds of years." Fortunately Kimiko Ishizaka completed the work in 2016, "based on the music that Bach left us... This new composition will also be released under a Creative Commons license as part of the new OpenScore.cc project... Kimiko is eminently grateful to her fans and supporters of free culture for allowing her to focus all of her energies on growing the public domain and bringing the music of J.S. Bach to a far broader audience than ever imagined."
They're also rewarding supporters with tickets to two live performances -- one at Carnegie Hall in New York City and one in Hamburg's new Elbphilharmonie.
Er... I don't think so (Score:5, Insightful)
Douglas tells BoingBoing (adding "when RMS writes you telling you to change the name of your music project, you change the name of your music project.")
Really? I think quite a lot of musicians would tell him RMS to take a hike.
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Yes, free software has worked out so poorly. I hear Linus Torvalds and everyone who has ever contributed to the Linux kernel are now living under bridges. YOU COW!!
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1% desktop market after two decades? Hardly a sign of success.
It's 1.64% of all Internet-bound computers. That's a lot more than 1% of Desktop market. https://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php?year=2017&month=7
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I know a server running Linux accepted comment #55002349, but did you key it into a phone or tablet? In addition, the phones and tablets you're referring to run a proprietary userland (GMS) atop the free AOSP and Linux layers.
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Now I disagree with Stallman on many points, and I prefer to use other licenses over GPL, but in this case I'd agree with him that "free" is a better word to apply to this project than "open"
Do you make games? (Score:2)
write software for a living, and am paid for it. About half the software I write is released as free/libre
Is the free software that you write for a living entertainment software? I ask because music is entertainment, and mainstream entertainment has been less quick to adopt libre licensing than software used in production by businesses.
This is easy to extrapolate to musicians: pay for the performance and recording, and pay for the copyright to be brought under a free license.
This is similar to how the community bought Blender from bankrupt publisher NaN [wikipedia.org] for a fire-sale price of $100,000 back in 2002, an early proof of concept of crowdfunding. But unlike NaN at the time, most record labels and music publishers aren't in bankruptcy and therefore won't
Re: Do you make games? (Score:1)
Unintentional similarity (Score:2)
Commie RMS wants to destroy the livelihood of musicians
Which musicians? Bach is dead. Ishizaka is happy to release her work free (libre) to the public.
Other living composers and the estates of composers dead for less than 70 years, if and when Ishizaka's work is eventually discovered to be unintentionally similar to their work. For background, read up on the "Blurred Lines" case (Gaye v. Thicke) and the "My Sweet Lord" case (Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music).
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Open means you can continue to work on it. From a Stallman point of view with people using computers to create music, rather than entire orchestras, that means being able to work on the entirety of the piece for peer to peer preview and possible update. With orchestras it is very different although, digitally with sufficient processing power, you could pull an instrument out and add you attempt in. The open content creation slowed down a bit, everyone bought into the YouTube millionaire bit and got a bit se
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It's not clear that it's "correct". To me Open would be more correct. "Free" has two meanings: zero cost, or zero copyright.
RMS Explains the difference (Score:1)
RMS travels the planet, explaining the difference between "free software" and "open source software "to crowds. Having attended these, I will do my best to convey the knowledge.
Free has two meanings, free as in beer and free as in freedom. Free as in freedom is often interpreted as libre or liberated software. With the first definition, the GPL never tells vendors that they must give their software away without compensation. With the second definition, customers are given the right to the source code of
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And yet "free as in beer" is just nonsense that sounds good.
BTW, the GPL is not "free as in freedom" - unlike the BSD licenses, it imposes restrictions on distribution.
Also, if RMS told you to eat foot cheese like he does [youtube.com] (at 1:51), would you?
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It does not impose any restrictions.
It just doesn't remove as many copyright restrictions as you would like.
So it leaves in place some restrictions. How is that "not imposing any restrictions?"
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Bullshit. There are plenty of times I don't need the author's permission to distribute. Stuff that is in the public domain, for example. Code that, by it's nature, cannot be copyrighted - if there is one or only a few ways to write something, these "scenes a faire" are absolutely not copyrightable, no matter how original or creative they are. And the ideas behind any code are not copyrightable since they are not themselves the expression of the idea, and only a tangible expression of an idea can be copyrigh
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BTW, the GPL is not "free as in freedom" - unlike the BSD licenses, it imposes restrictions on distribution.
On balance, those restrictions are quite reasonable. Their purpose is to ensure that you cannot take the freedom you have with the software away from someone else, by forking and hiding your changes.
People who write GPL code make their own choice to license it that way. If you don't like GPL code, don't use it. Obviously you have that freedom.
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No, everyone else is not restricted. They can go to the effort of implementing the exact same changes, and do with them as they want. The BSD license allows it - the GPL doesn't.
Re: Er... I don't think so (Score:3)
Open means anyone can collaborate or contribute. Free/libre means that anyone can get it free of any asserted rights like copyright. It doesn't mean it's free as in someone may want to charge money to give it to you on CD or charge you for consumed bandwidth.
There are plenty of "open" projects that are not free/libre, generally a company claiming to be open source but the license actually restricts you from sharing although they will take your contributions to improve their software.
Say "without charge"; free != "zero copyright" (Score:2)
Jehovah's Witnesses carefully refer to the gratis literature of their publisher Watch Tower as "without charge" because Watch Tower publications certainly aren't free as in libre. In fact, in 2012, Watch Tower became infamous for asserting its copyright against parodies of a skit from its animated series Become Jehovah's Friend. (This was the "Sparlock" incident, if you follow that.)
Nor does "free" mean zero copyright. A work in the public domain is free, but a copyrighted work is also free if its copyright
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"Don't call it free; call it 'without charge'"
Can you even imagine what this sort of proselytizing looks like to a normal human being?
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Libre is a stupid, pretentious word.
It sounds that way, because it is not used commonly in English. (Not so for other languages like French, etc.)
But please, let's allow that it is useful, when you want to avoid the confusion that can arise from the double-meaning of "free" in English.
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Q: What's the difference between RMS and God?
A: God doesn't think he's RMS.
(Re-purposed Ellison joke)
Nobody tells RMS to take a hike on naming. (Score:2)
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B, A, C - OK, but H???
I don't think so, no matter how well tempered your clavier is.
The older (German?) convention for labelling notes used B for what we now call B-flat, and H for what we now call B. So, B-flat, A, C, B spells B-A-C-H in that convention.
Many other composers have used this note-sequence as a tribute to Bach, even though the old labelling convention has long been abandoned. (See for example, Charles Ives' three-page sonata for piano.)
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This convention is still generally used in Germany, with guiarists being a notable exception due to the widespread use of English sources (and American made electric guitar strings).
public domian recodings will flood in any case (Score:4, Interesting)
as copyright periods run out, in next few decades, recordings of music from earlier part of 20th century (and increasingly great quality) will flood the audience.
even more than new libre recordings, i think there should be a project to catalog and publish such music to public.
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Lets just pray Disney doesn't own any of those copyrights, or we'll see another 50 years tacked on.
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They do. Some of their protected works are on the block in 2020, iirc. I've been waiting years now to see how they are going to extend it again.
Life of grandchildren; legislative misbehavior (Score:2)
Historically copyright tends to get extended retroactively when it is about to expire for work of value.
That's a coincidence. The 1978 extension was to align U.S. copyright term with the Berne Convention that had been the law in other countries for several decades, and the 1998 extension was to reconcile the copyright term with the advances in health care of the twentieth century. The underlying rationale behind the term remained unchanged, namely the life of the author's grandchildren [pineight.com]. But when uphelding the 1998 extension, the Supreme Court warned Congress against a third extension: unless Congress gives a
Re:public domian recodings will flood in any case (Score:4, Interesting)
as copyright periods run out, in next few decades, recordings of music from earlier part of 20th century (and increasingly great quality) will flood the audience.
even more than new libre recordings, i think there should be a project to catalog and publish such music to public.
Quite a few bargain-price European labels are doing a good job of releasing out-of copyright historical recordings. Here in the UK, we were up to 1963 before copyright was extended from 50 years to 70, but not retroactively, so the 1947-63 period is still public domain. This covers most of the classic mono era and takes us intro the period when stereo was becoming mainstream. Glenn Gould's excellent (mono) Goldberg Variations from 1955, and probably his incomplete Art of Fugue on the organ recorded in 1962, should be out of copyright. It would be nice to see a central resource for making these recordings freely available, though there's apparently some legal ambiguity about whether you can re-distribute somebody else's digital re-master or have to rip from a contemporary disc (which is a challenging task from crackly 78s, where overenthusiastic noise reduction can kill the atmosphere). On the other hand, modern artists who want to make a living releasing Free recordings should be supported and encouraged.
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I'm not confusing them, but I think you are! I'm talking specifically about the copyright in a sound recording as defined in the UK:
https://www.gov.uk/government/... [www.gov.uk]
The copyright length of the recording in the UK is now 70 years after release. However, a 50 year limit still applies to recordings that have never been officially released. This sometimes forces record companies to put things out just to extend the copyright for another 20 years:
https://www.theguardian.com/mu... [theguardian.com]
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Hewitt & Perahia are better than Glenn Gould (Score:2)
I can't stand Glenn Gould's recordings because of his irritating humming in the background. Angela Hewitt's or Murray Perahia's recordings are much better, and 2CD sets of same can be had for the price of a few cups of coffee, so why would anyone want to slum it with old mono recordings (unless you're one of those strange Glenn Gould worshippers)?
Re: Hewitt & Perahia better than Glenn Gould (Score:2)
Gould's humming is not something that can be ignored, and coupled with the inferior sound quality, it just adds up to a very unpleasant listening experience. I don't own any Gould CDs because I won't buy them, not even at bargain basement prices. Life is too short to be subjected to bad quality audio and Gould's inability to keep his mouth shut during recording has put him at the bottom of my list :-)
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This is EXACTLY what the Copyright Industry is trying to prevent. They do not want large amounts of formerly-copyrighted recordings to hit the Internet, searchable, streamable, people making remixes, etc.
The Libary of Congress offers a National Jukebox, featuring recordings taken from early shellac disks. For instance the St. Louis Rag [loc.gov] recorded 1906-10-05, i.e. more than 110 (one hundred and ten) years ago. And what does the US government tell their citizens?
Rights & Access
This recording is protected by state copyright laws in the United States. The Library of Congress has obtained a license from rights holders to offer it as streamed audio only. Downloading is not permitted. The authorization of rights holders of the recording is required in order to obtain a copy of the recording. Contact jukebox@loc.gov for more information.
Compare to:
U.S. Constitution, Article I Section 8 Clause 8:
The Congress shall have power (...) To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries.”
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State copyright in sound recordings is limited: it expires in 2067.
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It's incredibly optimistic to think copyrights will ever run out. Do you think Disney will allow people to make new Mickey Mouse stories? Excuses will be made, and the law will be changed again. For Disney.
H? (Score:1)
He wants to spell his name in musical notation?
Since when is there an "H" is musical notation?
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He wants to spell his name in musical notation?
Since when is there an "H" is musical notation?
According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]:
In music, the BACH motif is the motif, a succession of notes important or characteristic to a piece, B flat, A, C, B natural. In German musical nomenclature, in which the note B natural is written as H and the B flat as B, it forms Johann Sebastian Bach's family name.
That's what the article says, but I don't understand it. The only hand-written music on that Wikipedia web page shows B A C H written as four notes on a treble clef staff, not written as four letters. (This is on the right edge of the web page, half-way down.) So I don't know what they mean by saying that B natural is written as H, and B flat is written as B.
Re:H? (Score:5, Informative)
In music, the BACH motif is the motif, a succession of notes important or characteristic to a piece, B flat, A, C, B natural. In German musical nomenclature, in which the note B natural is written as H and the B flat as B, it forms Johann Sebastian Bach's family name.
That's what the article says, but I don't understand it. The only hand-written music on that Wikipedia web page shows B A C H written as four notes on a treble clef staff, not written as four letters. (This is on the right edge of the web page, half-way down.) So I don't know what they mean by saying that B natural is written as H, and B flat is written as B.
The explanation above is correct, but very unclearly worded.
In German nomenclature, the notes of the c major scale are read as:
C-D-E-F-G-A-H(-C)
There is a note called "B": The one a half tone under H.
So this [wikimedia.org] is indeed read "B-A-C-H" in German
(where it would of course also be considered to be written as such...).
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So if a German person looks at a B flat on a staff, and if they wrote or spoke the name of the note, would they write or say, "That note is a B"?
And if they looked at a B natural on a staff, and if they wrote or spoke the name of the note, would they write or say, "That note is an H"?
That's interesting. I found a good chart here [wikipedia.org].
Not the first time (Score:2)
The /. title calls it a "Newly-Completed Bach Work." Just to be clear, the final fugue from "Art of Fugue" has been "completed" many times over the past two centuries. Musicians as eminent as Riemann, Busoni, and Tovey have proposed completions that have been published, performed, and recorded. Wikipedia has a good article.
I haven't heard Ishizaka's version, but no matter how fine it may be it cannot be what Bach would have composed had he finished the final fugue. At one time the Bach scholar Christoph
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Should be... (Score:2)
Should be "When Richard Stallman tells you to do something: You install vim."
What will really bake your noodle is... (Score:2)
Did Bach die before completing his self-referential piece, or did it kill him? Was he drawn into it? Is he still in there? A far better fate than a misplaced accidental, being run over by a Ricecar, impaled by a contrapuntal counterpoint or a baroquen heart. When great composers decompose to compositions of rich melodious compost, the wit oft exceeds the whiff.