Amazon Launches Web Browser For Fire TV (theverge.com) 61
An anonymous reader shares a report: You'll never convince me that using an internet browser on a television set is anything but awkward and bad, but if for whatever reason you've been waiting to browse the web on Amazon's Fire TV devices, the company has answered that call. The Amazon Silk browser, which already comes on Fire tablets, is now available for Amazon Fire TV set-top boxes, sticks, and Fire TV Edition HDTVs. You can download it from the app store on supported devices. For now, as noted by AFTVnews, support is limited to first- and second-gen Fire TV boxes and the second-gen Stick -- plus the Westinghouse/Element 4K TV that runs Amazon's Fire TV software as its operating system. The most recent Fire TV released this fall can't yet run the Silk browser; Amazon says an update due in December will fix that.
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So we can watch videos from "special sites" on our fire tv without having to cast from our phones.
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As my mom used to say, "it's better to be a dipshit than an anonymous coward"..
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Ever tried to use a streaming device in a hotel? A browser is often needed to authenticate.
Nobody wants to touch moz://a's browser tech! (Score:1)
According to the Wikipedia article about Silk [wikipedia.org], it's "based on the open source Chromium project that uses the Blink engine".
So this is yet another browser based off of Chromium/Blink, to go along with other ones like the newer versions of Opera, like Vivaldi, and like Brave. And we're all aware of how Blink was derived from WebKit, which is used by Safari.
What I find most interesting about all of this is how nobody wants to deal with the open source browser technologies like Gecko and Servo that have been pr
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I think the primary difference is that our large monitors make sense with a good keyboard, mouse, and an OS of our choosing. TVs, at least at my house, aren't configured to use this way. I don't want that type of setup in my living room. These are the reasons that I also dismiss the idea of TV browsers so quickly.
Although, as someone pointed out, 'special sites' could be better viewed on the TV. I hadn't thought of that..
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Wireless keyboard with built-in touchpad.
Problem solved.
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The even have remotes with a keyboard on the backside and a laser for the mouse.
It's awkward for serious browsing but works just fine for casual surfing.
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You do not really need a keyboard every day. Once you have your bookmarks saved. For a mouse use the wireless Logitech M570 trackball. That way you do not need a mouse pad or table top. I just use the arm of a recliner. I have 3 trackballs on 3 HTPCs in different rooms. One cheep $20 Logitech wireless keyboard for all HTPCs. Use the Chrome password manager and create one Google account for all of the HTPCs then logins and cookies flow to every room. Very easy to use and the PC browser ad blocker are worth t
Re: How do browsers not work with TVs? (Score:2)
Can't use the m570 with the tv stick or TVs but you could use the new trackball since it finally talks standard Bluetooth.
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KB + mouse? Re:How do browsers not work with TVs? (Score:2)
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I could understand the argument if TVs were interlaced, has weird color artifacts (NTSC) and were low resolution (300-400 pixels wide). But a low-end HDTV made in the last 10 years has a stable digital picture and a pretty respectable resolution for text, photos and videos (duh).
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I've not had one HDTV with a VGA connector. Perhaps I bought the wrong brands, or perhaps my region doesn't normally do that. Usually my HDTVs have component inputs (Y Cb/Pb Cr/Pr), even the ones that did not have an HDMI input (very old 55" rear projection TV that I had. no 720p or 1080p. just 480i/p and 1080i).
amazon silk? not just a web browser (Score:1)
but a lean, mean, spying machine that offloads processes to amazon's "cloud" (i.e. all traffic goes through amazon), not so browsers can run better on shitty hardware, but so they can see *everything you do*. no wonder amazon wants to get its "browser" up and running on these devices.
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Virtual +1 funny.
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How did the word CANNOT get marked up so badly? (Score:2)
> The most recent Fire TV released this fall canâ(TM)t yet run the Silk browser...
I'm wondering what unfortunate twist of software turned the word "cannot" into "canâ(TM)t"? It seems like an implausible replacement.
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WebTV! (Score:2)
Web browser on my TV?! (Score:2)
Feels like 1996 [wikipedia.org] all over again (WebTV). Then again it could be 2007 [wikipedia.org] all over again(Wii). From WebTV to Wii there seems to be a trend of announcing the internet in your living room every 10 years. I guess if you go 10 years before WebTV(1996) you run into Ceefax [wikipedia.org], ExtraVision [wikipedia.org], and Telidon [wikipedia.org].
Right Device (Score:3)
With the right devices, browsing on a TV is actually just fine. At my house, we have an AndroidTV box with an "airmouse" attacked. It acts as a gyroscopic mouse, similar to how a Wii Remote controls a cursor on the screen. On the back side, there is a full QWERTY keyboard. For a living room environment to load up the usuals on the TV, that being OTA TV, YouTube, or other streaming services, this is actually quite a good experience for navigation. If Amazon had a better remote, this would be a decent experience, probably.
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I bet you live in Australia.
Waterfox for Android (Score:2)
You'll never convince me that using an internet browser on a television set is anything but awkward and bad
I've been using Waterfox for Android and a Logitech K400 wireless keyboard and it rocks! Perhaps it isn't the TV or the browser that is awkward and bad? I will admit though that every other browser I've tried (Chrome, Opera, Firefox) all felt a little off for one reason or another.
"Internet as an appliance" again.. and again.. (Score:2)
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Are you sure it is failing? Most of the internet is being concentrated into a few larger providers, carrier grade NAT is making the internet unidirectional, and net neutrality is coming to an end.
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Re: "Internet as an appliance" again.. and again.. (Score:2)
Amazon has been very good about FireOS upgrades because it runs so many of their devices. And Silk is regularly updated from their app store.
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They proxy everything for Silk through their datacenters so yeah the whole thing is a big monitoring system. But that's a different question about whether they get updates out to their devices.
The most important question (Score:2)
Does the browser support full screen porntube?
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Screw porntube.
Wait, let me rephrase that...
I'm using it. (Score:1)
Major problem with it is the input, and if you have solution to that, be it bluetooth keyboard or a TV with cool remote like LGs, well, where is the issue?
I actually... listen to music like that (radio swiss jazz site). My TV is also capable of switching off screen, while playing audio.
Does it allow ad and script blocking? (Score:2)
No?
Then I'll never use it.
Quick review posted from a Fire Stick (Score:3)
First off it is silk, so meh. From what I can tell there's no multi-tab support. You can choose between bing, google or yahoo as search engines. You can turn on do not track and turn off javascript but there's no adblock. bloated sites can slow it down or lock it up, an example is CNN video. The browser's own search/bookmarks/info menu has links to cnn video. embedded youtube works fine. Even if you have a keyboard paired you'll still need the remote to click on links. It doesn't work well for long text entry because the on-screen keyboard stays up even if you're using a bluetooth one. so editing a post or say a webmail will be frustrating. Navigation uses a cursor style approach which works better than the hotspot centric approach the old WebTV's used. There's a text scaling option which you might need if you sit far away. There's no gopher support, I checked. As a TV web browser I would rate it slightly higher than the old webtv, I'll write more in depth about comparisons in another post. I wouldn't rate the experience as well as say the PS4's browser, which has multiple window support and doesn't show the OSK when typing in a text entry field. And it most certainly isn't as good as say a 10 tablet running chrome with a bluetooth keyboard. But it IS a web browser on your TV, which some people might find useful.
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Yeah, I know it's not good form to reply to one's own post, but I wanted to add further commentary since my first internet access device was a WebTV so I'm probably a bit more familiar with the quirks of browsing on TV's than most.
Navigation is a killer when browing on TV's. WebTV's hotspot-arrow-key navigation was fine for simple sites in the early days of the net, but complex sites were difficult. Some would have a huge number of tiny hotspots to move between. So Silk using a mouse-ish pointer controll
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The fire stick is pathetic by modern standards, so no matter what I'd never expect a good browsing experience out of it. You can however sideload bluetooth settings, and pair a normal mouse and keyboard. However, if you're going to go to all that trouble, why not also sideload Brave?
gopher (Score:2)
There's no gopher support, I checked.
Gopher as in the hypertext protocol preceding the web?
Does it support <blink> and <marquee>?
Use in hotels will be easier (Score:1)
Tinfoil hats and UX grievances aside, a good thing (Score:2)
Remember the term "surfing"? That's not what you're trying to do when you use a web-browser on your TV. This is for things like connecting your plex account to the plex app you just installed, or being able to hand off sites from your kindle to the big screen to show the family without a lot of fussing about and transferring stuff.
This isn't a new browser, it's the kindle/alexa ecosystem browser becoming available on a kindle/alexa ecosystem device, so the "PRAAHVAHCY!" response to this smacks of knee-to-th
dead sea (Score:1)