It Only Took 37 Seconds For Two Bitcoin 'Celebs' To Start Fighting on a Cruise Ship (mashable.com) 106
An anonymous reader shares a report: The cruise ship wasn't big enough for the both of them. On September 10, somewhere in the Mediterranean, two well-known rivals -- Jimmy Song, a venture partner at Blockchain Capital LLC and Roger Keith Ver, an early investor in bitcoin-related startups and Bitcoin Cash evangelist -- in the cryptocurrency space stood awkwardly poolside. A crowd, sporting a mix of cryptocurrency-themed t-shirts and bikinis, lounged nearby on the ship's upper deck. One man, sweatpants sloshing in the water, steadied a tripod. The Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash debate was about to begin. It only took 37 seconds to spiral out of control.
It was perhaps to be expected that the debate wouldn't go smoothly, but just how quickly it went off the rails surprised even those in attendance. Song, cowboy hat atop his head and microphone in hand, attempted to introduce the format of the event -- a "Lincoln-Douglas style debate" -- but was soon interrupted by Ver. Shouts of "no Roger" emanated from the crowd, as Ver told the audience to "calm down." It quickly spun out from there, with Song repeatedly telling Ver to "sit down" as Ver angled for the microphone. "Do you want to debate me or not," Song demanded. "OK then sit down," he repeated as he stood behind the podium. Bickering over whether or not Ver would get a one-minute introduction before the official start of the debate continued on, with Song addressing the crowd and Ver shouting at the top of his lungs. They heatedly yelled over each other as the crowd jeered. Three minutes had passed, and things were not going well. And then someone handed Ver a mic. You better believe Song wasn't having that, and so he stormed offstage saying he was "refusing to do the debate." Finally with the stage all to himself, Ver attempted to speak but was immediately shouted down by an angry, shirtless man yelling from the pool. And that's all just the first five minutes. The video is over 40 minutes long.
It was perhaps to be expected that the debate wouldn't go smoothly, but just how quickly it went off the rails surprised even those in attendance. Song, cowboy hat atop his head and microphone in hand, attempted to introduce the format of the event -- a "Lincoln-Douglas style debate" -- but was soon interrupted by Ver. Shouts of "no Roger" emanated from the crowd, as Ver told the audience to "calm down." It quickly spun out from there, with Song repeatedly telling Ver to "sit down" as Ver angled for the microphone. "Do you want to debate me or not," Song demanded. "OK then sit down," he repeated as he stood behind the podium. Bickering over whether or not Ver would get a one-minute introduction before the official start of the debate continued on, with Song addressing the crowd and Ver shouting at the top of his lungs. They heatedly yelled over each other as the crowd jeered. Three minutes had passed, and things were not going well. And then someone handed Ver a mic. You better believe Song wasn't having that, and so he stormed offstage saying he was "refusing to do the debate." Finally with the stage all to himself, Ver attempted to speak but was immediately shouted down by an angry, shirtless man yelling from the pool. And that's all just the first five minutes. The video is over 40 minutes long.
Re: apGAY in the house (Score:1)
He's lost whatever little mind he had left ...
Who are we to judge? (Score:3)
If Jimmy Song and Roger Keith Ver want to wear cryptocurrency themed bikinis, who are we to judge them?
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According to Contributor's Covenant, we're not allowed to anymore anyway. Isn't that how Linus Torvalds got in trouble?
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According to Contributor's Covenant, we're not allowed to anymore anyway. Isn't that how Linus Torvalds got in trouble?
Linus was blackmailed. It'll come out soon enough.
Re: Who are we to judge? (Score:1)
[citation needed]
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Wasn't this ESR's bizaro paranoid claim that eeeeeebil SJWs would form some sort of weird left wing conspiracy to blackmail Linus Torvalds for, uh no reason.
Re: Who are we to judge? (Score:3)
The covenant only says you have to judge code by the code and not by the contributor.
Not sure why anyone has a problem with that, beyond people seemingly wanting to have problems and not RTFMing.
Same goes for the "debate" described. Attitudes that focus on having problems with others.
This four digit UID has used Linux since 0.1 and 386BSD before that. I do not recall any antagonism towards a meritocracy in the USENET days. Maybe I'm too old for this. In my day, it was all about the code and the belief in th
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In my judgement, Bitcoin Cash BCH is still the better coin to date and suitable for continuing commercial use over near term 1-3 year future... low fees, fast, decentralized... that's a good set.
BCH is closest to the original whitepaper, AND since all coins naturally evolve after their first release, BCH is properly exploring and taking a less complex, simple and natural path to scalability.
Whereas Bitcoin Core BTC is developing all sorts of crazy new protocols to try to scale.
Crazy new protocols and sideco
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Except that Litecoin does everything BCash does, did it before BCash forked for profit, does it without trying to appropriate the "Bitcoin" name, and can survive without trying to trick people into buying it when they actually want Bitcoin.
And Zcash is all well and good, but privacy is OPTIONAL; and while it may or may not be cryptographically superior to XMR, the fact that private transactions stand out on the blockchain like dogs balls make them far easier to trace on ingress and egress.
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So stop proving stupid and enhance your thinking before going around blathering "optional" and "bcash" like all the other retards, shills, and Anti's here.
Okay, if you read the reports on the "insecurities" surrounding XMR, you'll find they all refer to the early days of the coin when it had a much smaller transaction pool to draw from, and in fact had optional privacy. Obviously I disagree with you, so I must be a shill.
Do me a favor, get whatever you can and throw it into Bcash and Bitcoin Private ... both are on SALE now. Though, if you're worried about who's controlling Bitcoin Core, you might want to do some cursory research into the relationship betwee
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"Use your student loan money to buy MY favored 'coin' not those other ones!"
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pathetic (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, hand your money over to guys like that. Excellent financial planning.
Wrong order (Score:2)
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Bzzt. Incorrect. You go on cruise ships to kill a wealthy patron and steal his or her identity.
Ah, the lovers of the Dunning-Krugerrands... (Score:5, Funny)
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I haven't watched the video, but the summary reads like a Jerry Springer episode.
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"Dunning-Krugerrands"
Hmm...I have an idea for a new cypto.
Just in time! (Score:2)
If you look at the realtime prices, you'll see that that both bitcoin and bitcoin cash are crashing again. Cryptocurrency has been on a downward trend since it peaked last December. Buying any of it is just throwing money away.
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Spoiled brat (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm avoiding cryptocurrency because I don't understand anything more than the basics but the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.
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I'm avoiding cryptocurrency because I don't understand anything more than the basics but the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.
Of course they are all of the Trump school of economics.. Yell the loudest, pretend to be the biggest and never back down, or back anything up!
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I'm avoiding cryptocurrency because I don't understand anything more than the basics but the guy in the baseball cap comes across like a spoiled brat, constantly name-dropping economists, brags about how many economics books he's read, and argues based on anecdotes and emotions instead of logic.
I've been skeptical of the long term viability for a while but this debate really sealed the deal for me [intelligen...aredus.org].
One of the people arguing for Bitcoin was again one of the big names in the community, and he was generally nutty and incoherent. I don't know if he was always that unhinged or if he'd been living inside the bubble for too long, but it was clear that at the highest levels the Bitcoin community isn't able to filter the crazy out. And when a community can't get the crazy out at the top level then the found
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Wow, that's just a lot of hand-waving and "we must fight the global elites!" Ugh, no thanks. The pro side seems to be just salesmen.
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Are you talking about bitcoin, or the White House?
Re: Spoiled brat (Score:3)
Trust me, none of those you've listenable studied worth a damn and theirs is not the better way. They boast, brag and then rob you blind. If you genuinely want a better way, ignore those offering it. Look for the quiet ones who get the job done. If you need to advertise, you have failed.
Linux was spread by word of mouth, because it worked. That is how you know it was a good solution.
Re: Wow, amazing (Score:2, Insightful)
The dollar and euro are just as imaginative as the crypto currencies. There is nothing backing their value other then then a very basic system of trust, which works fine until you need a wheel barrow to buy a bread.
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where, backed by police forces, their collective units of government require that 25-50% of the value of their GDP be transferred to them in that currency.
Yes, my friend, 25-50% of the entire productive capacity of hundreds of millions of people is something.
Any system can be screwed up, but only the government can take your wheel barrow. And that is the fundamen
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The dollar and euro are just as imaginative as the crypto currencies. There is nothing backing their value other then then a very basic system of trust, which works fine until you need a wheel barrow to buy a bread.
And keep in mind that a gold brick is equally useless. Diamonds are losing considerable value as this generation doesn't care for them at all, even for engagement rings. Anyone who hoped they could resell their diamonds are taking a wash because no one under thirty will ever buy them. "Want to buy these diamonds?" sounds like "Want to buy this cat poop?" to kids these days.
Don't keep your money in just gold, or just dollars, or just cryptos, just the bank, or even just cattle. Diversify between hard and
Not really (Score:2)
I've seen tempers flare at Doctor Who conventions. If you like, imaginary currencies of imaginary races on imaginary worlds.
Humans have not evolved that much from their common ancestor with chimps, although we're capable of doing so if we like.
It's simple (Score:1)
Bitcoin Cash actually is better than Bitcoin. When the network gets all clogged up Bitcoin Cash performs a LOT better. Like no comparison. But there are a LOT of coins better than Bitcoin in this respect anyway.
The thing is, most of the value/money in the system of cryptocurrencies is tied up in regular old Bitcoin and these people don't want to see that go away and I doubt it ever will. It also seems the group controlling the Bitcoin protocol don't want to see it change. They LIKE when the network gets all
Re: It's simple (Score:2)
At least Anthrax produces music.
Well done to all involved (Score:2)
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Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?
Man overboard (Score:1)
Is it just me, or does a cryptocurrency-themed cruise sound like a living hell, or what?
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About as fun as that RHONY cruise where everyone got dysentery.
Re: Man overboard (Score:3)
I dunno, maybe the ship changes size if you solve a complex maths problem.
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That's a possibility. But I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the idea that some poor tech-bro is going to use one of his two vacation weeks a year to go on a cruise, where he's going to attend lectures on crypto-currency instead of drinking and relaxing in the sun and having unprotected sex with desperate divorcees.
What's happened to the world?
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Or maybe, "Boss, I found a great blockchain conference. We have any travel budget left this year?"
Tulip farmers in fisticuffs, film at 11 (Score:2)
See, this is why they are normally kept in steerage, especially during South Seas voyages.
Well then! (Score:2)
It seems that they're both about as stable as their favorite cryptocurrency. Kind of poetic, really...
=Smidge=
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So, wait... the fat guy in the swim trunks is Anonymous Coward? I don't think that we've ever had a sighting of him in person before :)
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Are we sure it was the real AC? A fat guy in speedos just seem to be more AC's style.
Needs a David Attenborough narration (Score:2, Funny)
"here we see liberals in the wild as the omega fight over who will be the next beta..."
PR coup (Score:2)
I watched 2 minutes of that and it seems very clear to me that it's a staged act. And look, it worked, it got those two clowns free publicity!
Bitcoin Fight (Score:1)
shocked! (Score:4, Funny)
Microcosim (Score:1)
This kind of thing is representative of what has happened to cryptocurrency since the banking hedonists have gotten into it.
Besides cowboy hats really piss people off.
(Though Cowboy Neil makes people happy).