Senate Passes Music Modernization Act With Unanimous Support (billboard.com) 159
After the House's unilateral support back in April, the Senate has unanimously voted to pass the Orrin G. Hatch Music Modernization Act, which is named in honor of the Republican senior senator from Utah -- a songwriter himself -- who will retire at the end of the year. Billboard explains the bill: The bill creates a blanket mechanical license and establishes a collective to administer it; reshapes how courts can determine rates, while making sure future performance rates hearings between performance rights organizations BMI and ASCAP and licensees rotate among all U.S. Southern District Court of New York Judges, instead of being assigned to the same two judges, Judge Denise Cote for ASCAP and Judge Louis Stanton for BMI, as its done now; creates a royalty for labels, artists and musicians to be paid by digital services for master recordings created prior to Feb. 15, 1972, while also eliminating a Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 carve out for "pre-existing digital services" like Sirius XM and Music Choice that allows for certain additional considerations not given to any other digital service when rates are set; and codifies a process for Sound Exchange to pay producers and engineers royalties for records on which they have worked.
Over on the music publishing side of the business, there was much happiness too. For example, ASCAP noted that the legislation reforms an "outdated music licensing system and give music creators an opportunity to obtain compensation that more accurately reflects the value of music in a free market." Billboard notes that the revised Senate version "will go back to the House where it needs approval due to all the changes made to the bill in order to get it passed in the Senate." Once the House approves, it will then head to President Trump's desk.
Over on the music publishing side of the business, there was much happiness too. For example, ASCAP noted that the legislation reforms an "outdated music licensing system and give music creators an opportunity to obtain compensation that more accurately reflects the value of music in a free market." Billboard notes that the revised Senate version "will go back to the House where it needs approval due to all the changes made to the bill in order to get it passed in the Senate." Once the House approves, it will then head to President Trump's desk.
Anyone have a handle on what this actually does ? (Score:5, Interesting)
Reading the article it sounds like streaming services are going to have to pay more to stream songs written before 72 in particular and more for everything in general. The article though is notably lacking in details, and keeps falling back to vague platitudes like
The result is a bill that moves us toward a modern music licensing landscape better founded on fair market rates and fair pay for all. At long last, a brighter tomorrow for both past and future generations of music creators is nearly upon us.”
I guess it's also nice for MOM and APPLE PIE.
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Funny)
How in the nine hells will they manage a brighter tomorrow for past generations, given the fact that those are DEAD?
Does this bill have provisions for necromancy?
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Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Interesting)
If you actually read the text of the bill, you will find they made wire tapping illegal without seeking copyright permissions from the person being recorded and they can charge a royalty but it would depend whether their life is a dramatic work or not, apparently.
The other weird thing, it gives absolutely no recognition of the public domain, so public domain works can be taken out by a similar new work. Fair use has also been specifically limited to legally recognised libraries, archives and educational institutions. The individual is not entitled to fair use and can have their public domain work stolen by a similar work by a pigopolists. You can rerecord a public domain work and deny the original public domain with new copyright.
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Funny)
... and they can charge a royalty but it would depend whether their life is a dramatic work or not, apparently.
I would suppose that if you are worth wiretapping, your life is either dramatic or is about to become so.
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"I would suppose that if you are worth wiretapping, your life is either dramatic or is about to become so."
For the common joe, this doesn't matter too much for him. However consider now if you wiretap a cop, in addition to getting harrassed and brought downtown on bogus charges, you'll get a potential day in court or at the very least a stiff copyright fee.
But consider that this is the kind of thing that a politician would want the most given the lives they choose to lead.
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Interesting)
The other weird thing, it gives absolutely no recognition of the public domain, so public domain works can be taken out by a similar new work.
Cite?
Fair use has also been specifically limited to legally recognised libraries, archives and educational institutions.
I don't see that. I see the section about pre-1972 works (section 1401) that describes Fair Use for these works, and it only mentions libraries, etc., but references section 107 which defines Fair Use, and which the bill does not modify. Since it doesn't change sec. 107, I don't think it changes the scope of Fair Use.
On both points, if you were right I'd expect to see the ACLU and similar organizations complaining, but I don't.
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How in the nine hells will they manage a brighter tomorrow for past generations, given the fact that those are DEAD?
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The dead artists quite often ( nearly always ) have heirs.
Royalties from music being played or licensed are paid to those heirs.
Royalties can result in very significant sums of money being paid to the heirs, who are ( by the very definition of the word heir ) still alive.
You may not think this makes sense, but I assure you that virtually every such heir thinks it makes very good sense indeed.
Nothing in this world is free, and only a thief or a fool believes otherwise.
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Nothing in this world is free
Gravity is free.
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Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Funny)
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As soon as we figure out how to torrent Higgs Bosons, Gravity will be the same kind of free that music is.
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That is mass not gravity.
Re: Anyone have a handle on what this actually doe (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems the one thing that is free is money for the heirs of artists.
It's not even the heirs themselves who are pushing this as much as the all the rest of the industry that profits from being solely licensed distributors/publishers and continuing to make a profit from works that should have entered the public domain long ago.
The social contract has been broken. The deal was we protect the works for the author/artists for a **limited** time (eternity minus a day is NOT what was meant by "limited time", that's just sophistry and semantics) and, in exchange, those works become free for anyone to do anything they like with them. That is no longer true in any but the technical sense. For example, any time the copyright on Mickey Mouse nears expiration, boom!...a new Act extending copyright terms magically is passed with few voting against even in the partisan warzone that is Congress.
And I'm sure they'll be shocked & surprised when more and more people simply stop even pretending to obey copyright restrictions. It appears so counterproductive that you'd almost think there might be ulterior motives involved.
But that would be 'conspiracy theory' territory, as we all know just how honest, open, and transparent those in power in the private and public sectors are about such things.
Right?
Strat
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One thing I've never understood, and this isn't a criticism/complaint from me, is why slashdotters are so upset about the copyright on Mickey Mouse. Is it literally just that it's a best / most recent example that people would recognize? I see people talking about how copyright ends up stifling creativity by making certain things off limits... but why would creativity need to use Mickey Mouse or any other copyrighted character/design?
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That, and most of Disney's library comes from making musicals out of Hans Christian Anderson, the Thousand and One Nights, the Brothers Grimm, and other old stories.
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One thing I've never understood, and this isn't a criticism/complaint from me, is why slashdotters are so upset about the copyright on Mickey Mouse. Is it literally just that it's a best / most recent example that people would recognize? I see people talking about how copyright ends up stifling creativity by making certain things off limits... but why would creativity need to use Mickey Mouse or any other copyrighted character/design?
Pretty much anyone knows of mickey mouse so it is an easy example. Would you like to pay copyright royalties on say the use of Boolean Algebra in the same way that you pay for a more than 8 sec sample of random song? Just while writing this post my computer probably did a couple hundred of operations that would require royalties payments.
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"is why slashdotters are so upset about the copyright on Mickey Mouse"
Because Disney, seeing that the copyright on Mickey Mouse was about to expire paid for legislation to extend copyright to keep Mickey from becoming public domain.*
Narrow Corporate interests were held as more important than the general populace's interests by our elected leaders. In my mind, this is one of many events that show that corporate money should not be allowed in the political process.
*Yes, I know they did not directly go to con
Re: Anyone have a handle on what this actually doe (Score:5, Informative)
Mickey Mouse Trademark (Score:1)
Mickey Mouse is just a lightning rod. It is about copyright and trademark abuse in the USA and world.
Honestly, I'd be ok if the Library of Congress wanted to add 1 item per year for long-term protection - say 500 yrs - to a list of national treasures. Mickey would be the Disney submission, clearly, and they'd win.
The first 2 Star Wars films and those characters could be added too.
Same for a few books.
A few songs deserve that protection, but never an entire album.
But extending copyright protections for all
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Eldred ruling anticipated legislative misbehavior (Score:2)
The Supreme Court has already ruled that since "limited time" is not defined, as long as there is a limit, Congress can do whatever they want.
If you're referring to Eldred v. Ashcroft (2003), the opinion of the Supreme Court mentioned in passing the possibility of "legislative misbehavior" to circumvent "limited Times". The Court failed to find "legislative misbehavior" for one reason: the United States was harmonizing its copyright term to that of a major trading partner. The opinion implied to me that the Court might not be so kind to a subsequent extension between now and 2024 without a good excuse.
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Actually you have just described something free - the income for the heirs who may never worked, never contributed to anything, they just got the right to the "royalties" for creation of someone related to them. Their ancestor actually already got paid in their life for his artistic contribution from which they and their heirs might have benefited. And now they just get money for nothing. It's not even money for guarding and protecting vision of an artist which i would understand but just the money like they were actual contributors. And if the author gives its creation away to everyone for free for the good of public he now can be overturned by some random shi*head who can just rerecord his art and get again something for free - not only he does not need to pay the actual author but he gets what's is not his - again - for free. It's just a way to pay more for creative works to the rights holder and not to the authors. Counter intuitive, counter productive etc. Like always - good intentions are not enough to conclude in the good legislation.
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing in this world is free, and only a thief or a fool believes otherwise.
Unless your an heir of someone who wrote some popular music before you were even born. Then you get to ride their coattails to bags of free money.
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Unless you're an heir to a copyright.
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parentheses or "round brackets" ( ) "square brackets" or "box brackets" [ ] braces or "curly brackets" { }
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Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Interesting)
Anything that passes with unanimous support is generally about as good for the public as the DMCA and the PATRIOT ACT. Hey, guess who introduced the Sonny Bono Copyright Act to Congress (wherein it passed through the Senate unanimously)? It was Orrin Hatch...
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Informative)
To give more info, this bill is a renamed/modified version of the CLASSICS Act [wikipedia.org], which was mentioned on Slashdot back in May. It extends copyright for certain works to 144 years. It was also introduced to Congress by a Republican, lest one think that only Democrats are beholden to the MAFIAA (although the unanimous support is a dead giveaway.) Actually I'm surprised no Libertarians in Congress oppose these bills.
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144 years ... copyright laws are so out of whack here in US, my only hope is that other countries will shift to more rational laws we'd all be able to take advantage of services based elsewhere in the world.
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144 years ... copyright laws are so out of whack here in US, my only hope is that other countries will shift to more rational laws we'd all be able to take advantage of services based elsewhere in the world.
In 20 years or so, we'll extend this to 1728 years, just to be safe.
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I don't think there are any Libertarians (Score:2)
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A Republican that sees nothing wrong with record labels destroying your computer [farces.com] apparently.
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I'd written my senator to complain and he basically told me this was good. What a do nothing.
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Informative)
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Being a songwriter turned out to be a remarkably easy way to take a bribe from entertainment conglomerates.
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Who needs Bills of Attainder when you have selective enforcement?
I'd like to mod your signature insightful.
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Anyone have a handle on what this actually does (Score:5, Insightful)
It should also be pointed out that no one has heard a wiff of this through major news outlets because they've been consumed with made-for-TV hearings to appoint and/or tear down some guy to fill some other similar guy's post. It's almost like both sides of the aisle want that circus to avoid any light to shine on the bipartisan screw-the-little-guy crap (like this) they work out at the bar after the show is over for the day.
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Thanks. Can't believe this wasn't in the article. Oh hell of course I can, it linked to Billboard.
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Well, the senate passed it so its safe to assume its pretty horrible for the American people and probably the entire world.
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Well, the senate passed it so its safe to assume its pretty horrible for the American people. ...
Is it sad that this is EXACTLY what I thought as I was reading the summary?
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If you asked a congresscritter theyd probably know no more about the leslation that they voted for than the vapid story 'summarization'...
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it allows trumps associates to monetarise their singing to the fbi,
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If you write a song tomorrow, there will be a big corporation who has the power to sell the rights to that music without your permission, and you'll have to jump through their hoops if you want to get a portion of that money. They'll keep the rest as a fee for the privilege of them screwing you over.
Further more, if you try to sell the rights to your own song without involving them, they'll DMCA the results into oblivion.
This corporation will also be able to charge people for everything in the public domai
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There's a lot in it but I'll hit some high points.
Pre-1972 works
You can basically break everything "recorded audio" into one of four groups for things pre-1973.
1. Pre-1923: All audio recording pre-1923 will have their copyright expire three years after this becomes law. Since the President has not sign this into law, that three year clock hasn't started.
2. 1923-1946: They will get a 95 year (that is expires in 2018 to 2041) copyright from date of publish, plus a five year transition period. So expire
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Thanks.
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And nothing of value was lost.
Re:surprised they didn't sneak in.. (Score:5, Informative)
a copyright extension...
oh, wait. i know why they didn't...
They did.
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They did, this bill extends copyright to 144 years.
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What provision of this bill, if any, applies any term extension to works other than pre-1972 sound recordings?
Software companies are going the subscription way (Score:4, Funny)
So I think it's time to establish recurring royalties paid to software developers for software they have worked on too. While we're at it, builders too, because houses are rented out as well. Everybody should get rent for what they did once.
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perverse (Score:1)
if anything in the Internet age, copyrights should be shorter because now artists have a much faster ability to sell and market their works than 40 years ago when every sale involved a physical medium that had to be produced and shipped about
Re: I'm not going to pay another dime for music (Score:5, Interesting)
Irrelevant. The copyright monopoly is not a natural thing. It is a deal to encourage the creation of works that are available to the public, and in return the public grants a monopoly on the creation of copies. If the culture of my life-time never enters the public domain during my life-time, then the limitation on copyright isn't an acceptable deal in return for granting the copyright monopoly.
Re: I'm not going to pay another dime for music (Score:5, Funny)
And if we don't extend copyright, Elvis won't write any more songs!!!
"More value in the free market" (Score:1)
Nothing says "free market" like price fixing
Music creators... (Score:2)
...ASCAP noted that the legislation reforms an "outdated music licensing system and give music creators an opportunity to obtain compensation ...
Typically in the past whenever the music industry talks about compensation for the music writers or performers they are not speaking about the writers or performers of the music, but the music companies that own the rights to the music. Now I see a new word, "creators," and I wonder if anything has changed, or has the music industry once again purchased Congress to increase the income of the music industry while giving a mere pittance or nothing at all to the artists who write and perform the music.
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I'm afraid you are just whistling Dixie if you think Americans will rebel. Oh wait. There's a charge for that.
Finally, now on to the lesser matters. (Score:3)
Communism (Score:2)
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Commerce Clause is a good place to start.
Shoot, it doesn't even require "parties", one party and regulation is enough. Be careful how much wheat you grow to feed your own livestock:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Translation (Score:5, Informative)
The music cartels have ensured they now ALL get a chunk EVERY time:
See there are several music cartels, and they fall into a segment groups.
RIAA collects royalties for "recordings". So whenever you bought a vinyl record, cassette, or CD. They collected royalties for the artists. Let's say you wanted to do a cover of a song and release it on your album. You pay RIAA. But believe it or not, that doesn't necessarily mean you can play that cover live...nope...that's a different cartel. Oh, but let's also add, that the royalties are paid to the copyright holders. Which were usually the record labels themselves, (which formed RIAA), and have spent a century ripping off artists by tacking on fraudulent expenses and failing to pay.
Performance and broadcast rights. ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC collect the performance rights. This is what classic radio stations paid. They never paid RIAA ^^^ up above. It is also what most churches pay in order to display the words of the songs on projectors, or print them in hymnal books. It is also who you pay for music in your restaurant, elevator music, and I believe your "on hold" music. Oh, but get this...once again it goes to the copyright holder. And what goes to the artist, often goes to only a select few. Huh what? Well see these royalties go to those on record as having "written" the music/lyrics. So if the drummer wasn't involved in writing the song, he doesn't get paid.
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When the advent of digital music and streaming came about it started to cause a bunch of issues for the cartels, as they kind of got into a turf war with each other and with artists. For example, record labels signed licensing deals with the like of iTunes. But while many artists only received 15% on an album sale, licensing deals were 50/50. But the record label cartels paid the artists as if they were sales.
Then you had the digital streaming radio. Were these broadcasts (hence under BMI/ASCAP/SESAC) or were these recordings (thus under RIAA). RIAA made an argument that buffering, and caching and the like constituted recording. Mind you, radio has done this with on-air delay for years. But RIAA didn't want to take on the broadcast radio, because gee, who would buy their albums if they never played them.
Thus was the DMCA and SoundExchange. Now here is the thing, SoundExchange required every online music broadcaster to pay them a royalty per play. But SoundExchange ONLY paid out based on certain number of plays, and those plays as a percentage as a whole. Now at the time 90% of the music played was by independents and micro-labels. But here's the thing, the big labels push a handful of artists and albums in any given season. Listen to yada yada radio, and count how many songs you ever hear. Probably 80% are the same 100 songs on a given station. Hence the popularity of college radio which might play a song from some obscure band once. So suddenly, these big stations start streaming. And their playlists do something interesting...
College radio and independent streamers.
1,000 independent artists, each play 10 times = 10,000 plays
Big Music
10,000 plays, of a 100 artists. Big Music artists show up as 100 plays each.
SoundExchange did a couple of things, a minimum number of plays/royalty amount to receive a payout. And a time to claim such. Otherwise, it just went to the cartel. So basically, they now collect the royalties for all the independent bands, but never pay them out. Talk about piracy? Or even more so akin to the East India Company - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
They had succeeded once again in successfully !@#$% over the artists, the independents, college radio, and most consumers. But there were still dubious areas that the music cartels were fighting over. Hence this law, which basically ensures they ALL get a piece of the action everytime.
And once you understand all this, it's why you usually quit giving a !@#$% about all their hype on pira
The OTHER Orrin Hatch Act (Score:2)
Hey, he's a musician, so let's ignore all the shitty things he's done while cozying up to the pharmaceutical lobby and consistently trying to limit the rights of pe
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It's not too soon for you to begin becoming an adult and quit being a stupid annoying useless prick.
But when will the President do the same?
Re: Orrin Hatch is a Fool! (Score:1)
During a discussion of methods to frustrate computer users who illegally exchange music and movie files over the Internet, Hatch asked technology executives about ways to damage computers involved in such file trading. Legal experts have said any such attack would violate federal anti-hacking laws.
"No one is interested in destroying anyone's computer," replied Randy Saaf of MediaDefender Inc., a secretive Los Angeles company that builds technology to deliberately download pirated material very slowly so other users can't.
"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."
(source) [macobserver.com]
On Facebook [thewrap.com]: “So, how do you sustain a business model in which users don’t pay for your service?” (April 2018)
This guy is another dinosaur that his constituents keep putting in because they have no idea how to vote for anyone else and doing so would require thought or energy which are scarce resources for the average Ame
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Q: What did the pro-Trump AC say to the anti-Trump AC?
A: Who gives a fuck?
Re: And, SEXUAL ASSAULT NOW REQUIRED TO PLAY! (Score:1)