Tidal Under Criminal Investigation In Norway Over 'Faked' Streams (engadget.com) 28
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Engadget: High-fidelity music streaming service Tidal is under criminal investigation in Norway for allegedly inflating album streams for Beyonce's Lemonade and Kanye West's The Life of Pablo. The alleged faking of streaming numbers was exposed last year by Norwegian newspaper Dagens Naeringsliv (DN), which said it had obtained a hard drive with the tampered data. Around 1.3 million accounts were supposedly used to lift the play counts of said albums by "several hundred million," with Tidal paying out higher royalty fees to the two artists and their record labels as a result.
In the wake of the report, a Norwegian songwriter's association known as Tono filed an official police complaint against Tidal. The Jay-Z-owned streaming service denied the accusations and subsequently launched an internal review to be conducted by a third-party cyber security company, which is still ongoing. Today, DN revealed that Norway's National Authority for Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime (Okokrim) has begun an investigation into data manipulation at Tidal. Though still in its early stages, Okokrim says that at least four former Tidal employees (including its former head of business intelligence -- responsible for analyzing streams) have been interrogated in front of a judge as part of the investigation. The quartet have faced a total of 25 hours of questioning thus far. Three former staffers reportedly recognized signs of meddling with the albums and contacted a lawyer before notifying Tidal. "All three individuals resigned from the company in 2016 after signing what a DN source called 'the gold standard of confidentiality contracts,'" reports Engadget.
In the wake of the report, a Norwegian songwriter's association known as Tono filed an official police complaint against Tidal. The Jay-Z-owned streaming service denied the accusations and subsequently launched an internal review to be conducted by a third-party cyber security company, which is still ongoing. Today, DN revealed that Norway's National Authority for Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime (Okokrim) has begun an investigation into data manipulation at Tidal. Though still in its early stages, Okokrim says that at least four former Tidal employees (including its former head of business intelligence -- responsible for analyzing streams) have been interrogated in front of a judge as part of the investigation. The quartet have faced a total of 25 hours of questioning thus far. Three former staffers reportedly recognized signs of meddling with the albums and contacted a lawyer before notifying Tidal. "All three individuals resigned from the company in 2016 after signing what a DN source called 'the gold standard of confidentiality contracts,'" reports Engadget.
Ah your first mistake (Score:1)
For most people would be signing such a thing
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Don't you think it strange (and very stupid) that Tidal would rig the numbers so that they have pay *more* money to artists?
Yeah - either something is not being explained correctly, or someone is chasing their tail.
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Things are being explained fine, people just don't know how streaming pro rata licensing works.
Common poll, divided according to total listens. You aren't guaranteed a fixed amount of cents per playback.
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> people just don't know how streaming pro rata licensing works
I don't.
> Common poll, divided according to total listens. You aren't guaranteed a fixed amount of cents per playback.
I still don't.
I think you're saying the total is a basket divided out by plays.
So what is the idea here, that they are shifting payments to certain artists in favour of others?
Re:shocked (Score:4, Funny)
She is paying herself.
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Don't you think it strange (and very stupid) that Tidal would rig the numbers so that they have pay *more* money to artists?
They may be keeping two sets of numbers. One that's 'closer to the truth' to pay artists and another to 'upsell themselves' to other services. Plex just recently signed a deal with them for example, now ask yourself how much more valuable to Plex they'd be if they just fudged the numbers showing a much bigger draw on the market and in turn more people installing plex servers, and paying a monthly fee to them.
How can a corporation commit a crime? (Score:2)
Or if it can, how can a living being commit a crime? What are these things?
For me, a crime means one being harming another. If a security guard steals my tootsie pop, it was not done by the imaginary corporation paying him in imaginary dollars. It was done by a dunce in a poorly fitting uniform. It was done physically, by a physical being, in the name of an imaginary being.
So I return to the original question: How can Tidal, a fictional corporation, face criminal charges? If found guilty will it be sent to
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corporation means it's corporated and can face fines and shit, even dissolution. usual reason would be running a cartel in the nordic countries(probably most usual). second would be some environmental crimes.
however, I'm not sure here of the motives. was the idea to suck up a higher percentage of the norwegian riaa equivalents radioplay etc fund?
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So I return to the original question: How can Tidal, a fictional corporation, face criminal charges? If found guilty will it be sent to jail? What is jail for a fiction? We are banned from thinking about it for a period? Who's in jail?
Tidal is not a fictional corporation, it's a real one. And when a corporation does something that is an intentional crime (paying money to friends of the CEO, most likely at the expense of other artists, or at the expense of investors), then this doesn't happen by chance. It happened because someone decided it would happen. And then you start with criminal charges against a real person.
"...25 hours of questioning thus far." (Score:3)
Now if they put that on Tidal, I'd actually be interesting in joining.
Is it safe to say (Score:3)
Why Tidal? Whats in it for them? (Score:2)
Why would Tidal inflate streaming numbers so they could pay out MORE royalties? That makes no sense at all.