'Let's Watch Netflix: Three Words Guaranteed To Kill a Romantic Mood' (wsj.com) 439
Is streaming video responsible for America's falling fertility rate? 'One of us usually ends up falling asleep.' From a report: Once upon a time, Netflix dates were synonymous with romance, best captured by the viral hashtag #NetflixandChill, a euphemistic suggestion disguised as an invitation to watch TV. These days, the literal chill of the on-demand streaming video service is so great that some young couples call it the new birth control [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled]. [...] Demographers have lots of theories about why the U.S. fertility rate recently hit an all-time low, ranging from the aftereffects of the recession that followed the financial crisis to the broader use of long-term birth control. It is hard to ignore, anecdotally at least, the impact of streaming entertainment, popularized by Netflix and available from the likes of Amazon.com Inc., Hulu and HBO.
A 2017 paper in "Archives of Sexual Behavior," which revealed that Americans were having less sex, on average, than they did three decades ago, offered streaming video as one possible culprit. Dr. Jean Twenge, the lead author and a professor of psychology at San Diego State University, says in the old days a favorite TV show was done at 10 p.m. sharp and commercial breaks gave people an excuse to talk to their partners. "Now, if you're watching something streaming, the next episode is immediately available, and there are no commercials where you could look over and say, 'Honey, you look cute tonight,'" she said.
A 2017 paper in "Archives of Sexual Behavior," which revealed that Americans were having less sex, on average, than they did three decades ago, offered streaming video as one possible culprit. Dr. Jean Twenge, the lead author and a professor of psychology at San Diego State University, says in the old days a favorite TV show was done at 10 p.m. sharp and commercial breaks gave people an excuse to talk to their partners. "Now, if you're watching something streaming, the next episode is immediately available, and there are no commercials where you could look over and say, 'Honey, you look cute tonight,'" she said.
What the shit is this "article"? (Score:5, Insightful)
> Is streaming video responsible for America's falling fertility rate?
No. Go back to your basement.
Rising opportunities and the pressure of economics make children expensive and life harder for the average (and above average person), as well as making you less competitive overall in the short term. This has come to a head in urban areas, where the majority of the populations reside. Space is at a premium, birth control is cheap and education has been effective. Job opportunities are at a premium (especially with all people eligible, not just white men), keeping wages down and competition high = having kids puts you behind.
Re: What the shit is this "article"? (Score:3, Insightful)
Or articles telling white people that we should stop having children to save the planet from overpopulation. Or being afraid that someone can decide after the fact that they regret fucking you and now you get charged with rape. Or women no longer do anything for their part of a relationship to justify wanting them as anything more than a fling. If she won't cook, clean, pay half if all bills, look nice, why would any of those improve with a child?
Re: What the shit is this "article"? (Score:4, Interesting)
As someone raised in a house where my mom worked full time and didn't cook or clean, and also as an actual 6'4" dude, all I can say to the last bit is what the hell!
I'm a fully grown a$$ man. If I couldn't do my own cleaning, laundry, and cooking by now I'd be so embarassed I don't think I'd tell anyone. That's like telling people you can't wipe your own a$$...AS an ADULT!!! What the ever living hell????
For the rest, yeah I pretty much don't want to bring kids into a world that I know will not give them the opportunities their parents and especially grandparents had. Automation alone pretty much means they will have to graduate at the tops of their classes in healthcare, law, or goverment related fields to have a chance.
Aint no kind of world to bring a kid into. It's like pointing them to a cliff and telling them their future lies in being able to learn how to walk on air. You'd have to be a seriously messed up sociopath or narcissist (or both alah Kardashians...) to want to bring kids into a world with that future.
No thanks! I'll take the bill for the past generations sins and turn the light off and close the door when I leave. And everyone will be the better for it. Never needed to leave anything behind. Never needed to be rich or famous....
Re: What the shit is this "article"? (Score:3)
Find someone you're happy spending the rest of your life with and the rest is meaningless. Here's a clue - it doesn't involve checklists. In fact - that's a tip to a generally happy life.
Re: What the shit is this "article"? (Score:4, Informative)
It used to be that men needed women for a great many things, and sex was pretty far down that list. I mean, sex is vitally important, but on the basis of hours spent, it's not very big at all. Today, there's not much men need women for except for sex. This I believe is a either a victory of our civilization, or it's down fall.
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If going to the gym could make your cock bigger, obesity would be less of an issue with American men.
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If going to the gym could make your cock bigger, obesity would be less of an issue with American men.
That is by far, the weirdest manshaming I've ever heard.
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We need to send Netflix out to India and the 3rd world countries with uncontrolled birth rates that they cannot support.....and cut down on THEIR birthrates!!!
It'll help save the planet, cut down on starvation and squalor, and I"m guessing will help with climate change.
Re:What the shit is this "article"? (Score:4, Insightful)
More simply, sex is sex, and fertility is decision. People have sex without making babies and they make babies by planning to have babies and then having sex and then going to the doctor to demand a week of birth control so they can induce fertility so they'll actually get pregnant when they have sex. Fertility is driven by long-term planning, not spontaneous arousal.
Stress (Score:2)
There's another big one tied closely to the fiercely competitive diminishing return culture were created: Stress. We're having to work and struggle harder and harder just to avoid falling behind - we're facing the first generations in the history of civilization where young adults can expect a lower quality of life than their parents, and there's no sign of improvement on the horizon.
That creates a very stressful environment, even before you consider social media making everyone else's life look better tha
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There's another big one tied closely to the fiercely competitive diminishing return culture were created: Stress. We're having to work and struggle harder and harder just to avoid falling behind - we're facing the first generations in the history of civilization where young adults can expect a lower quality of life than their parents,
Yeah, those people back in the 1930's depression were wealthy and everyone who died in World war 2 had it sooo much better - didn't they?
You really, really need to read some history, and absorb it. Previous generations in the civilized era had to deal with basic survival. And today's young folks are falling apart from stress.
Now mind you - just like you, I blame your parents. But not for the same reason. They protected you from adversity. They made certain you were absolutely safe. They had you parti
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If you'd rather stream than fuck, there must be other factors at play.
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I read an article the other day, saying that the millennial are having the lowest amounts of sex than any other generation, despite having more opportunities to hook up with apps and social media.
I thought it strange too, but it made some interesting points.
It mentioned they as a generation are more "risk adverse" in general as far as life goes.
And with sex, well, you have to pursue a partner, and rejection is a risk. Then, there's a
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I know this is going to sound crazy to some posters, but I'll post it anyway.
I'd go further than that and posit that computers present themselves to people, superficially, as a cyberspace
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It looks like the millennial have a lot of interesting quirks, but it appears the generation just after them ("Z"?) is largely the opposite.
They seem to be already swinging more conservative, sexual and motivated.
Hey, two out of three ain't bad! ;-)
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Along with "What's this sore?" (Score:5, Funny)
Just seems to take my wife right out of the mood.
Maybe a lack of relationships is the reason (Score:2, Interesting)
Most people I know in the 18-36 range aren't in a serious relationship anymore. Men and women tell me they don't want to get married, and this is going to effect the whole "lets have a baby" thing.
People do Kinder and PoF, or go to the bar to meet someone. They don't want long term, they want the sex without the strings of a relationship.
No, not everyone does this, but its a hell of a lot more common of answers now then it was 20 years ago.
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And why not? That was the historical norm until the building of civilization required "stabilizing" young men with marriage so they don't have nearly the motive to employ violence to win reproductive rights. Even then it was commonly understood as a long-term business arrangement, and accepted that you would probably seek sex and romance outside of marriage. At least in the western world, until the Romance Era got everything all tangled up.
Netflix and chill (Score:2)
Of course, an unmentioned wildcard is that this emotional shift occurred as Netflix was actively dumping third-party content and focussing more on their self-produced fare. Perhaps people aren’t as turned on by Kevin Spacey and Taylor Schilling as they were by Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell.
Do young people still date? (Score:3)
There is a certain segment of young people whose relationships are almost entirely online. Which is a pretty effective means of birth control...
The new slogan is obvious. (Score:5, Funny)
"Netflix: Better than sex."
I've heard some suggestions, though not backed up by conclusive research, that the flood of compelling entertainment is also responsible for the fall in violent crime rate. Hard to keep a decent gang of criminal thugs going when everyone wants to stay home playing games and watching TV.
Re:The new slogan is obvious. (Score:4, Insightful)
"Netflix. Your wife is just going to say she has a headache anyway."
The solution is clear (Score:2)
Inter-/episode breaks with romantic content intended to warm the both of you up. Hey, as long as you're paying the monthly subscription fees, Netflix should be ok with it one way or the other, right?
That's a relief. (Score:5, Funny)
Beautiful people (Score:5, Interesting)
What I don't like, is the amount of beautiful people on American series. Unrealistic too, they'd have a shot with the lead actress getting up in the morning. She'd get up with full and beautiful makeup, hair carefully curled, impossibly skinny, sexy yet modest nightgown, then do a fake yawn.
British TV is entirely not that way. Look at series like Vera (with Brenda Blethlyn [wikipedia.org]) or Happy Valley (with Sarah Lancashire [wikipedia.org]). Or Dalziel and Pascoe (with Warren Clarke [imdb.com]), where Dalziel is an overweight, bad-mouthed, unkempt and always-pissed police officer.
Look for three hours at Jason Momoa and it wouldn't surprise me if women unconsciously sorta lose interest in the tired, overworked and overweight guy lying next to them on the couch.
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where Dalziel is an overweight, bad-mouthed, unkempt and always-pissed police officer.
So only beautiful by UK standards? /puts on asbestos overcoat and runs.
Re:Beautiful people (Score:4, Insightful)
Look for three hours at Jason Momoa and it wouldn't surprise me if women unconsciously sorta lose interest in the tired, overworked and overweight guy lying next to them on the couch.
This is a very large contributing factor. And specifically it's women's preferences that are contributing. Every man wanted Cindy Crawford or Pamela Anderson or whoever, but he knew he couldn't have her, so he settled. Women today have had their heads filled with "empowerment" and "you can be anything you want" and "you're so amazing" and "you should never settle." And they don't.
As has been reported, 80% of the women are chasing 20% of the men. We have the numbers. Yay for big data and the Internet. They won't settle. They're all determined to get their Jason Momoa and they will accept nothing less. So yeah, fertility is down. Too bad.
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Probably more like 90 and 10.
80/20 was statistics extracted from one of the dating sites. OK Cupid, I believe, since they seem to publish more analytics than most. Which they should probably stop doing, since it has proven that they're useless for 50% of the population.
Hypergamy is very real and todays world offer no short-term consequences to riding the CC.
I wasn't aware of how real until I saw a chart, allegedly from OK Cupid, of how women rate the attractiveness of men. They rate greater than 50% of men as below average attractiveness. 58% to be precise. Which is ridiculous.
Even more lunatic are these statistics:
At zero premarital sexual partners, her probability of divorce is <20%. At a single sexual partner, it jumps to ~50%. Then it hovers around there until ~5 partners, where it steadily climbs, and at 16+ partners, she's practically guaranteed to divorce. The male divorce rate is statistically uncorrelated with premarital sexual partners.
No
breeding is thankless and unrewarding (Score:2, Funny)
People get more and more selfish every generation. Children are ugly, annoying, smelly, unrewarding, and very very expensive. It is a lot cheaper and easier and far more rewarding just to buy a pet if you want something to pet and cuddle with. Your pet won't start to hate and ignore you when they hit adolescence either.
So what has changed? Not only are people getting more selfish they are also getting more resistant to the traditional messages of what life is about. There are fewer breeders probably for the
3 words (Score:2)
"I read slashdot"
It's obvious... (Score:5, Funny)
...millennials are drinking less & so they're having less sex.
Beer. Helping ugly people get laid for at least 7,000 years. Drink more beer, have more sex.
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Nothing of that kind is happening (Score:4, Insightful)
Since the invention of TV. The decreased libido of first world is a known phenomenon. It has multipronged causes and availability of online entertainment is only one of them.
That's just another example of trashy journalism
It's the economy and fear (Score:5, Insightful)
She was a single mother without a high school education and worked multiple jobs. She gave me a lot of independence, even when I was very young, but this came with responsibilities. I was able to be part of the solution. Starting in 2nd grade, I woke, fed myself, dressed and put myself on the bus. I was taught more skills as I aged, gaining independence but also providing more help to the family. I did much of the grocery shopping by the time I was in middle school.
She would be ostracized, today. The lessons taught and ethics gained would be ignored, and the focus upon the 'danger' she was putting me in. Where the 'danger' is simply walking about an existing in our society. When did this fear come about? Violent crime is drastically reduced from the "good old days" of the 70's. Yet we walk in fear.
So, we've raised a generation of scared children. They've been taught obedience and through practices like 'zero tolerance,' have lost the courage to stand up for themselves and do not understand the balance of inaction versus risk in conflict. It's largely not the fault of the millennial. They were raised this way. My generation fears so much. We've watched as measure after measure of life quality has dropped below what our parents encountered.
Raising children is arguably one of the scariest and 'riskiest' adventures of which one will embark.
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By the way, this is an American thing. Other countries do not have the same absurd expectations of parents. [amazon.com]
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The young French couple mentioned that their three children aged 2, 5 and 7 years where of course staying back at home whil
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You should read "What to expect when nobody is expecting"
There is a whole chapter on how most of our policy is pro-child but anti-family. Car seats are offered as an example of this. A car that has seating for six, will still only accommodate 4 if car seats must be installed in legally mandated fashion. Unless you purchase a vehicle with three rows of seats its basically impossible for a family with more than two children to travel together. That is something many families simply can't afford to do.
While
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Alt Theory: Kids are ****ING EXPENSIVE! (Score:5, Informative)
I am married. My wife and I have stable good paying jobs. We own our home. I have two kids and want zero more. Why don't I want any more kids?
KIDS ARE ****ING EXPENSIVE!
Seriously. Kids are really ****ing expensive. No one can afford any more.
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Fair point.
My 2-yo is really not pulling her own weight on the expenses like she should be.
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I am married. My wife and I have stable good paying jobs. We own our home. I have two kids and want zero more. Why don't I want any more kids?
KIDS ARE ****ING EXPENSIVE!
Seriously. Kids are really ****ing expensive. No one can afford any more.
The costs are diminishing as you have more kids, if my friends with large families are to be believed. They always say something along the lines of, "If you have three, you might as well have five." But one parent or the other is not working outside the home.
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I am married. My wife and I have stable good paying jobs. We own our home. I have two kids and want zero more. Why don't I want any more kids? KIDS ARE ****ING EXPENSIVE! Seriously. Kids are really ****ing expensive. No one can afford any more.
Yet in Africa where people are dirt poor they all have five kids. This is more an effect than then cause, when people only have one or two kids they can afford to buy them all these things and spend all this time and set the bar ridiculously high for the rest. High earners have never [freakonomics.com] been the ones to have many kids. I think you know how you could raise five kids, it's not that you can't it's that it'd cramp the whole family's life style pretty hard. That's also the reason most people now delay having a kid
Re: Alt Theory: Kids are ****ING EXPENSIVE! (Score:2)
Ironically, your Africa comment is false. Birth rates are falling in virtually every nation in the world, including African Nations.
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they may be falling, but are still very high in many African countries.
Re:Alt Theory: Kids are ****ING EXPENSIVE! (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't know. I have a Catholic coworker who's got 5 or 6 already and using my company's health insurance for _in vitro_ fertilization because she's having some trouble getting started on the next one.
What I'm hearing you say is that a family that actually loves and values children is doing their part to keep the economy going.
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Yeah, you should stop being an a-hole about it.
Netflix is an exercise in frustration for us (Score:2)
I guess we've watched most things we want to see on it. It's suggestions are terrible. It's largely the same handful of titles showing up in the Latest, Popular, and a few of the genres lists. Sometimes we use a third party site to find better recommendations more easily and then search for them directly. A lot of the time we get tired of it and watch something free on youtube or turn of the TV.
Netflix has ... (Score:2)
It's the economy, stupid (Score:2)
Streaming video is cheap. Raising children is not. If you're already living paycheck to paycheck it's hard to get excited about the idea
The proliferation of screens. (Score:2)
Those who came of age before smart phones still have human interaction ingrained in them. This will change as new generations come up who are introduced to interactive content at earlier and earlier ages.
"I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to sa
Netflix and Chill? (Score:4, Funny)
Apparently it's Netflix and Moodkill?
Putting career first maybe (Score:2)
More people are waiting longer to have kids, putting career first for a while. That said, when my wife and I were younger and Netflix wasn't streaming just yet, we'd watch DVR'd First 48, Deadliest Catch, have a romp, then goto sleep, have a romp around 2:30am, go back to sleep, and another romp in the morning. Now we watch Netflix, Prime, or DVR and one of us falls asleep. We have 3 kids now thanks to all of those romps, so we're older and more tired. My advice: romp first, then watch Netflix so if som
Symptom, not a cause, IMO (Score:3)
Like plenty of people are commenting here, we've reached a saturation point, at least in America. We went from one person being able to work a full-time job and keep a family's bills paid to both parents having to work full-time to make ends meet. And now, the cost of kids just keeps increasing, with prospects greater than ever that they won't even move out or become self-sustaining, productive citizens without their parents' financial help, as they become adults.
My wife and I are both in our late 40's, and we have a "blended family" with one kid of mine from a previous marriage and 2 of hers from one. We both work full-time career I.T. jobs and while we're able to just barely keep our heads above water to retain a "middle class" lifestyle, it's pretty crazy how often you want to do something and simply can't because the kids make it financially impossible.
For example, our oldest one really wanted to go out to eat with the whole family on her birthday. We used to always do things like that on all the kid's birthdays. But it used to be a lot cheaper because they were all under age 11 or 12 and got to eat cheaper food from a kid's menu, or got a discount at a buffet. Now, all 3 count as full price - and as they've become pre-teens/teens, their food tastes have gotten picker and more expensive too. So that birthday dinner at Macaroni Grill cost us something like $150. And that was with both of us opting out of any alcoholic drinks, since those are always a lot more expensive than just getting water or a soda or something. Used to be, those kinds of meals never cost us more than $50-ish.
Summer vacations are another challenge. We've pretty much forgone doing any of that beyond little 2-3 days weekend trips someplace relatively close in the summer because it just puts us way too far into credit card debt otherwise.
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Re:Are men really men anymore? (Score:5, Interesting)
Porn is inexpensive fantasy fulfillment, and once you're done with it that's it. If all you want is sexual gratification, porn is easily accessible and doesn't care what you look like. Anyone can get it.
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You always pay, maybe not by money, but you always pay somehow. :)
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But what are you spensing your money on ? Never getting laid ? Seems sort of stupid.
And if you make good money and are not an idiot, and are in your 30s, there are plenty of successful like minded women that will double your income. Stupid not to pursue it.
Who are you to tell men what they are supposed to do?
Besides, reading what the press has to offer, women universally want men to leave them alone. Men are constantly harassing and raping and otherwise making women's life hell, including making women the real victims of war. So if men leave them alone, they have succeeded.
And what has happened is the number one weapon to get men back into subserviance - manshaming - has lost all it's power.
It is his body, and his choice.
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Why would you choose free porn over real sex ?
One of these two does not lead to false rape accusations.
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It's sad that some people are so scared of that boogyman that they are foregoing rewarding and fulfilling relationships.
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Are you saying that it's not happening ?
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I'm saying it's not something that should stop you having relationships.
A lot of people get killed every year in cars. You could just avoid cars, never get in one, never go near a road... But you shouldn't do that, the danger isn't significant enough to warrant that kind of reaction, and it will have a very negative impact on your life.
Of course you should also take care around cars. Don't walk out into the road, put on the seat-belt, drive with care, and try to enjoy life.
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It's hard to avoid being in/near cars, but some people can enjoy a fulfilling life without being in an intimate relationship.
Also, false rape accusations is not the only possible issue. Messy divorces and custody battles are some others, and they are much more common than car accidents.
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I certainly wouldn't object to the laws around divorce and child custody being improved. The UK has no-fault divorces which reduces the amount of blame and acrimony a lot.
But again, if you are mature and sensible about relationships it shouldn't be a big concern for you.
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Plus not quite all who are still married live a happy sex life - from my personal observation, marriage is negatively correlated to frequent sex.
(see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] )
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Plus not quite all who are still married live a happy sex life - from my personal observation, marriage is negatively correlated to frequent sex.
This also works in the opposite direction. I know couples that divorced and remained friends and/or moved on to happier and satisfying lives.
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That's why I'm thinking of coming up with a versions of playboy, or maybe video streaming of pr0n for the married guy....
Every month, SAME CHICK.
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I'm saying it's not something that should stop you having relationships.
Well, you and your ilk are probably going to have to come up with some different tactics. Because that is exactly what is happening.
Because after blaming men for everything, then after men start withdrawing because of being labelled the proximate cause of all problems - continuing to blame men for leaning out isn't going to bring them back to the plantation.
It is reminiscent of the old saying "The floggings will continue until morale improves."
A lot of people get killed every year in cars. You could just avoid cars, never get in one, never go near a road... But you shouldn't do that, the danger isn't significant enough to warrant that kind of reaction, and it will have a very negative impact on your life.
Would you make the exact statement if there was over a 50
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It's sad that some people are so scared of that boogyman that they are foregoing rewarding and fulfilling relationships.
Well, it really isn't fear. Just a risk/reward relationship. The risks have been well outlined. They're significant and real. More than 50 percent divorce rate, and what society and the law demand out of that dissolution just for a start. Sexual boredom, often paying for someone else's child that she conceived during a little fling she had after you were married - and enforced by law. The number of cuckholded men rasing children that are not theirs is surprisingly high
Now - what is this reward and fulfil
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Learn to use your scare words correctly. False rape charges are a real thing and unfortunately can be done with no evidence at all, contradicting evidence and false evidence and will still ruin a person's life. They bogeyman in those cases is the rape, not the charge as you suggest.
Re:Are men really men anymore? (Score:5, Insightful)
One of these two does not lead to false rape accusations.
If you're concerned about this then you need to seriously consider the company you keep or take a long hard look in the mirror.
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If you're concerned about this then you need to seriously consider the company you keep
How exactly would you be able to tell ?
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If you're concerned about this then you need to seriously consider the company you keep
How exactly would you be able to tell ?
Just more manshaming on his part.
I wonder if modern feminists are willing to try a radical experiment.
Being that the increasing acrimony and escalating hatred against men has resulted in men leaning out, increasingly angry and disturbed women, and mental illness expressed by the astounding increase in women taking antidepressants and other drugs......
Perhaps they might try being nice to men?
Otherwise, just enjoy the track we are on.
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I wonder if you downtrodden persecuted victims of the "others" are willing to try a radical experiment. Consider the criticism. If not that, consider the data. Get some first hand experience by maybe talking to a woman instead of your incel group. Many of the women I've know have dealt with some terrible shit yet remain honest and open. If they don't want to talk to you fine, leave it at that. How many people do YOU not want to talk to? Move on and you find someone that does want to talk. Chill the fuck out.
Sorry, but you've inserted so much bullshit in there, that it stinks a bit.
Who's a victim? A male who decides to not interact with women is not considering himself a victim at all, and since he doesn't interact with women, he is in no way victimizing any woman at all. No victims, no harassment, no rape no unwanted flirting or conversation. She is left with what has been demanded.
And you in your inability to understand that you fall into the same trap the idea that once trying to make men feel shame or
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One of these two does not lead to false rape accusations.
If you're concerned about this then you need to seriously consider the company you keep or take a long hard look in the mirror.
Or the third option: Seriously consider the environment you are living in that enables such things.
Re:Are men really men anymore? (Score:4, Interesting)
Why would you choose free porn over real sex?
Divorce, child support, alimony, what you have to go through to be granted sex.
Don't get me wrong, actual sex with an actual woman beats (har) the hell out of porn.
But it has been turned into an expensive minefield where a guy can be destroyed on a whim. As some folks say, "That juice isn't worth the squeeze."
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People tend to be generous when describing their own motivations.
Hot crazy Matrix (Score:2)
Explainer, the female version at the end.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... [youtube.com]
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I doubt it has anything to do with what you are talking about.
Sure sex has changed in the last 3 decade it started with HIV and then education programs that instead of promoting responsible sex tried to scare kids until they thought sex was trap that would inevitably kill them.
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That is a good point, as younger people these days in generally are finding it harder to start careers and college debt has skyrocketed, there probably are more younger women dating (or otherwise arranged with) older men for the money.
Re:It's called men are tired of women's BS (Score:5, Insightful)
Google MGTOW, it will explain a lot.
I did, and it does explain a lot, but not what you seem to think it explains.
Those men who have apparently gone their own way sure spend a *LOT* of time on the internet grousing about women.
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Who wants to put up with that shit?
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"Women do get the 'shit end of the stick,' these days. Many young men demand everything from a woman yet have not developed a personality or skills useful in this age. They were pampered as kings and told they were special. But they aren't. They can't cook, don't like to clean, have few actual interests / hobbies, no sense of humor and don't exercise, but consider themselves lords and a demand treatment as such. Who wants to put up with that shit?"
You are dead-right on both accounts!
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If you really must sleep with people you don't trust it would make sense to use protection, wouldn't it? Not just against unwanted pregnancy, but against diseases.
The problem with MGTOW is that they say they want nothing to do with women, but then spend an inordinate amount of time complaining about them. If they actually just went their own way no-one would mind, but it seems that in order to maintain a relationship-free, sex-free lifestyle they have to constantly convince themselves that women are awful a
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The problem with MGTOW is that they say they want nothing to do with women, but then spend an inordinate amount of time complaining about them
To be fair, you don't hear the ones that are not complaining.
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You just described rabid feminists there as well.
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Actually I do agree that there should be a change in the law to handle forced fatherhood better.
In the UK children are legally always considered to be "a blessing", as in you cannot argue any loss or harm resulting from their existence.
Of course proving it can be difficult.
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This is the bitter fruit of telling women that all men are rapists.
Do you know the origin of that claim?
It was a line in a play by a radical feminist. In the play a woman is raped. He mother is upset and says the line, but then her daughter (the victim) disagrees with her and makes a counter-argument.
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Didn't really need to google anything to form an idea why you might be struggling with relationships. Your post pretty much sums it up.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but you might want to spend some time away from the mgtow forums and talk to someone who can help.
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Or the fact that family courts nearly always side with the woman. Oh you make more than her, would be a more fit parent and can provide better for your child? nah they'll just rape you for more child support. Unless the chick you knocked up is a bonafide unfit crack head, she will probably be getting the kid, and your money.
Thank god i'm gay. Gay marriage was the worst thing to happen for us. No gay man wants marriage, just a few vocal in the minority and lesbians screamed for it. If a gay man starts talki
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I looked into this and it's not quite as you say.
For a start half of decisions are not even made in court, they are mutually agreed by the parents. Overall in 51% of custody cases the parents agree between themselves that the child should live with the mother. Yet more are agreed in mediation.
In fact court is very rare. Only 4% go to court, and only 1.5% end with the court making a ruling. So the vast majority of cases are not litigated at all.
I was looking for some explanation of why fathers more often tha
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you tend to stay awake longer while it is dark outside and do not go to bed and fuck
End of the day is a bad time for sex. Everyone is tired and good sex requires a certain amount of exertion*. First thing in the morning is good. Also, mid-afternoon if you have flexible work schedules.
*Great sex is like a triathlon. The middle leg is the hardest.
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HOWEVER the birth rate there actually peaked in the 1980s and has been on a gradual decline since then. Source: World Bank Group Sub-Saharan Africa Fertility rate. [worldbank.org]
(Note that it's the fertility rate that's declining. The population is still (currently) increasing because even at a reduced rate that fertility rate is still higher than the rate at which people are (currently) dying.)
The entire world is, on average