Disney World Plans Two-Day, Stars Wars-Themed Simulated Space Cruises (gizmodo.com) 123
This weekend Disney revealed more details about Star Wars: Galactic Starcruiser, a cruise-like experience which promises "a two-night, all-immersive adventure," inviting visitors to "live your very own epic Star Wars story."
Gizmodo reports: Like a cruise ship, everyone boards at once and everyone leaves at once. How that works though is, you arrive to a special terminal in Orlando to check in. From there you get on a "launch pod" that blasts you into space. That's where you meet up with the Halcyon, the ship you'll be on the next two days, as you travel through space. Now, when I say "launch" and "travel through space" that's just the illusion, obviously. Disney didn't explain how they will achieve it but, probably lots of screens and different animations to try and make you feel like you are in a real space.
Once you get on the ship, how you experience the adventure is up to you. You can relax and watch the stars fly by as the Halcyon travels through space. Or you can take place in all manner of different activities to learn how to be a hero. You can use a lightsaber, you can help pilot the ship, or you can learn about the ship's defenses so that, just in case the First Order drops by, you'll be able to help. (They'll be dropping by.) The crew will be comprised of "aliens," every window has a view into space (including the one in your cabin), and characters new and old (they showed Chewie, Rey and Kylo) will be part of the experience. An experience that has one stop on it -- Batuu and the Black Spire Outpost, aka Star Wars Galaxy's Edge.
The Disney Parks blog promises the starcruiser "will fully immerse guests in a galaxy far, far away."
Gizmodo reports: Like a cruise ship, everyone boards at once and everyone leaves at once. How that works though is, you arrive to a special terminal in Orlando to check in. From there you get on a "launch pod" that blasts you into space. That's where you meet up with the Halcyon, the ship you'll be on the next two days, as you travel through space. Now, when I say "launch" and "travel through space" that's just the illusion, obviously. Disney didn't explain how they will achieve it but, probably lots of screens and different animations to try and make you feel like you are in a real space.
Once you get on the ship, how you experience the adventure is up to you. You can relax and watch the stars fly by as the Halcyon travels through space. Or you can take place in all manner of different activities to learn how to be a hero. You can use a lightsaber, you can help pilot the ship, or you can learn about the ship's defenses so that, just in case the First Order drops by, you'll be able to help. (They'll be dropping by.) The crew will be comprised of "aliens," every window has a view into space (including the one in your cabin), and characters new and old (they showed Chewie, Rey and Kylo) will be part of the experience. An experience that has one stop on it -- Batuu and the Black Spire Outpost, aka Star Wars Galaxy's Edge.
The Disney Parks blog promises the starcruiser "will fully immerse guests in a galaxy far, far away."
Oh come on (Score:4, Informative)
To Boldly Change [Re:Oh come on] (Score:4, Interesting)
Trek blew it: they kept changing the look and feel of the series, making it hard to build theme parks and merchandise around.
Star Wars mostly kept the 1977 flick's look throughout.
Whether Trek's changes are good for story telling or not I cannot say, but it's not good for theme parks.
Re:To Boldly Change [Re:Oh come on] (Score:5, Insightful)
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Star Trek is for adults anyway, not for a bunch of kids who want toys. Slam.
Should be +5 insightful. Just about every episode has some dilemma or another. Sometimes some fun as well, but so much that kids wouldn't get outside of the kaboomy parts.
Which is why I really like Voyager, and why some don't.
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Oh yes: "Shall I save the day this time by using the power of the Beastie Boys? Or shall I use Public Enemy?"... what a dilemma.
Maybe Star Trek can recover with the upcoming Picard series. That's probably its last chance to be anything other than not even a new Star Ware, but merely the fast and the furious IN SPAAAAACE. But considering the epic bungling of Discovery, I'm going to remain skeptical until given more than a trailer to convince me otherwise.
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Oh yes: "Shall I save the day this time by using the power of the Beastie Boys? Or shall I use Public Enemy?"... what a dilemma.
Maybe Star Trek can recover with the upcoming Picard series. That's probably its last chance to be anything other than not even a new Star Ware, but merely the fast and the furious IN SPAAAAACE. But considering the epic bungling of Discovery, I'm going to remain skeptical until given more than a trailer to convince me otherwise.
Yeah - Discovery was a disaster. They made all kinds of weird cinematic decisions as well, including way overly dramatic lighting in too many scenes that didn't need dramatic lighting. If we go to the other series, they used even lighting except when needed. It clues the audience in on the gravitas of the situation.
Strange, it's like a new group of cinematic folks came along and decided that there are no more rules. Or to use a spice example, decide to throw everything out but salt. But use tons and tons
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Or to use a spice example
The Spice must flow!
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Probably not your thing, but I've found a fan-made audio drama called Star Trek Outpost to be really good (at least it got good anyway), and feels more like classic Star Trek. Been listening fror about a year, and I'm a bit disappointed I've already reached episode 78, which is their most recent production. Has good character development and decent story lines.
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There used to be an exceptionally good Star Trek theme ride at the Hilton in Las Vegas, "The Star Trek Experience."
The setup is you're standing in line about to board the usual sort of motion-based simulator ride.
Then the room goes dark except for whirling sparkly lights all around, and when the lights come back on, you and the whole group are standing on a transporter pad, and the tech at the control panel says "Mr. Riker, we got them." Masterfully done live effects. If I'd done it again, I'd probably h
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Even more simpler-er: Disney owns the Star Wars franchise, so of course they will favor that one. (Also, not wanted to get sued by ST owners probably factors in as well.)
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Even more simpler-er: Disney owns the Star Wars franchise, so of course they will favor that one. (Also, not wanted to get sued by ST owners probably factors in as well.)
Even if they owned Star Trek too though, it's a lot easier to build a theme hotel, rides, and attractions, based on a space fantasy than it is based on a science fiction. Trek being Sci-Fi instead of Space Fantasy would require a few things being slightly more realistic and doesn't really lend itself as well to an exotic immersive experience.
Besides, last thing I would want to do on vacation is sit around a long table discussing problems with a captain who hasn't figured out that Earl Grey is the arm-pit o
Re:To Boldly Change [Re:Oh come on] (Score:5, Funny)
Even if they owned Star Trek too though, it's a lot easier to build a theme hotel, rides, and attractions, based on a space fantasy than it is based on a science fiction. Trek being Sci-Fi instead of Space Fantasy would require a few things being slightly more realistic and doesn't really lend itself as well to an exotic immersive experience.
Besides, last thing I would want to do on vacation is sit around a long table discussing problems with a captain who hasn't figured out that Earl Grey is the arm-pit of tea flavours yet.
/ Not really dissing Trek... and definitely not Picard.
Imagine walking into a themed, immersive Star Trek hotel and the first thing they do is hand you a red shirt...
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Imagine walking into a themed, immersive Star Trek hotel and the first thing they do is hand you a red shirt...
Alien VD would be worse.
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Besides, last thing I would want to do on vacation is sit around a long table discussing problems with a captain who hasn't figured out that Earl Grey is the arm-pit of tea flavours yet.
/ Not really dissing Trek... and definitely not Picard.
And for crissakes, don't talk to Janeway before she's had her second cup of coffee!
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They will have to hold off making a Trek cruise until alexa becomes better. The first thing any true star trek fan would do when they got to their room is shout out "computer, play klingon porn!"
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Nice buzzword spouting there. Third wave feminism was led by Generation X and would thusly be WAY over 40 and not likely to be that "purple haired feminist" strawman you created.
ridiculous lead characters who are depicted as flawlessly all-powerful because GUURRL POWER!
compared to Superman, or Tarzan, or John Carter of Mars, or Doc Savage, or the Lensmen, or Lazarus Long (and every other Heinlein Marty Stu), or Remo Williams, or The Executioner, or James Bond, or Conan, or Gord the Rogue, or Drizzt.
that made boys love the original Star Wars, or made girls prefer My Little Pony.
I must have imagined the girls and women who watched and loved Star Wars back in 1977 and I must
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One of the main characters was literally an old, white, anorexic, shrill, purple-haired shrew who was the Avatar of Third Wave Feminism incarnate. And of course, she smashed the Patriarchy.
Perhaps your biases are causing you to see conspiracies where there are none and make mountains out of molehills. What patriarchy, the First Order has female officers!
They had to pull the movie 4 months early in China because the overwhelming reviews were, "the female characters are ugly and unlikable."
There was a time when "Autocratic China dislikes something" would be considered a positive. Besides, China has issues with cultural misogyny.
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Wow, someone never figured out how to get a girl to kiss him.
I'm curious as to how you would explain princess Leia? You know, the tough talking, gun packing, speeder riding heroine of the first 3 movies. Or maybe they didn't cover that in Incell class.
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And she saved Han twice, basically spat in Vader's face while every man around him grovelled to his to keep from getting force choked. Your point?
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And then she strangled her master while wearing said outfit. The very definition of feminist empowerment if there is one. *You* try again.
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Not Star Trek?
If Disney made a Star Trek themed attraction then Paramount / CBS would sue them into the ground.
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Not Star Trek?
No Jar-Jar on the Enterprise. The people have spoken, they want more Jar-Jar.
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Reginald Barkley was Star Trek's Jar-Jar.
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Not Star Trek?
No Jar-Jar on the Enterprise. The people have spoken, they want more Jar-Jar.
And Green milk. And little Groundhogs that beat super armies with sticks.
Being a jedi is more fun (Score:2)
Not Star Trek?
Sitting at a touch screen while someone shouts "warp speed" at you doesn't sound like much fun. How many times would you enjoy realigning the di-lithium crystal chamber? Star Trek is a good series but it's more about the plot than the action. Hands up, who would rather be a science officer on an away mission instead of a Jedi with a lightsaber?
Oh and wear red to a Star Trek ride at your own risk...
Re: Oh come on (Score:1)
Star Trek or Wars. No big difference.
48 hours on a boat with Star Wars fans... (Score:5, Funny)
This is a preview of Hell.
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Worse yet, some may be Slashdotters
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That's reserved for Jeffery Dahmer.
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Maybe it is just a hotel with screens replacing the windows. There might be a safe exit.
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This is Disney, the forefront of capacity optimization. I bet it will be two identical, separated hotels connected to an indoor ride. That way, the description with the launch and "in-orbit" transfer make sense:
Day One (afternoon) : Arriving guests are packed into groups of probably 5% of overall guest capacity. (10 % of Hotel Building One capacity) and sent onto an indoor ride (anything between Mountain and Terror Tower; Star Wars Themed.) After the ride, don't send them outside through the gift shop, but
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I think they're desperately in need of something that provides a longer, no-wait "ride" experience than the traditional theme park experience.
The lines for rides are out of control and fast pass doesn't really help, it just forces you to make sacrifices and hyper-schedule your visit. You can't pack a zillion people into a traditional "theme park" and expect that rationing 5 minute rides is workable long-term.
I would kind of expect over time that theme parks would begin to morph into something like this, lo
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I kind of agree with this, but inside such a "hotel attraction" you also need shorter "activities" or "experiences" or ... rides. No matter if you have an actual "ride" throwing people around within a range of G-forces or a cinderella meet&greet or light sabre lessons: In the end you need capacity in guests per hour. That's why I estimated two hotels to one show building that houses the expensive special effects. No matter how nice the theming of the indoor- hotel or theme park is - you'll be paying a l
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Yes, there will be "sub-experiences" but it will make sense as part of the total experience to have these scheduled and structured as part of the total experience, so they will be able to plan and account for the capacities.
The problem now is that the existing ride-centered parks are way over their ride capacities now. FastPass bought them the ability to manage this somewhat and gain more density, but it's kind of gone too far, requiring you to basically schedule everything now or you can't even get on som
5 minutes would be MORE (Score:2)
For all their board room grown synthetic entertainment, Disney has been remarkably good at turning their movie experiences into rides that capture some visual and emotional elements and distill them into 2 to 3 minutes. Everyone who has been to Disneyworld knows that, as brazenly exploitative these parks are, the rides are done brilliantly. I have been on the Star Wars ride, and I admit with a tinge of shame: it was eminently entertaining. The "story" was nonsense, as expected, but the amount of VFX craftsm
Re:5 minutes would be MORE (Score:5, Interesting)
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You want to spend an enforced time with 200 guys cosplaying Boba Fett? Or arguments about how "Grand Moff Tarkin wouldn't ever say anything like that!!"
The sweet embrace of hypothermia beckons.
RE: hypothermia (Score:2)
"Freeze me in carbonite" and put me in the cabin.
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Walked right into that one, didn't I?
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This is similar, it's like staying in a theme park, but with a single theme, and more focused.
More precisely, it is like the experience of the Disney cruise ships, without the billion-dollar expenses of actually building and maintaining the fleet.
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This may feel like troll bait to the die hard fan, but I'm with Mark Hamill and William Shatner on this one. "Get a life people"
Disney is grasping at straws a bit here. After rejecting the majority of it's fanbase to court a new fanbase, they might be trying to revive the franchise.
Disrespectful treatment of loved characters, identity politics clumsily written into movies, their response to criticism via attack which was more clumsy identity politics, and a weird misunderstanding of who was buying the merch led them to the first SW movie to lose money - Solo.
Odd that after Solo tanking, where they had the silly excuse of Star W
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What identity politics? If anything the guys complaining about identity politics are the one with identity politics because they're complaining about having a female lead. White male IS an identity, boys, and if you start complaining about SJW's ruining things by having non-white or non-male characters..well you're engaging in identity politics...and bigotry, though you probably don't think you're being the latter..because YOU don't think of "White male" as an identity.
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Well, the problem is, trying to rewri
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Well, the problem is, trying to rewrite history or redo something classic that worked.
Rather than try to squeeze women/minorities, etc into old classics why not come up with NEW compelling stories with more women and minorities?
How are the current movies re-writing history? The old movies still exist...the new movies are NEW stories in the same universe. How is that a problem?
People grew up with Star Wars, with Vader, Han, Luke and Leia.....leave that be, that's how it was made and how ti works best.
Vader and the Jedi were inspired by Samurai. Toshiro Mifune was the original choice for Obi-Wan. How is adding new characters to the universe a problem? Heck, that's been done since "Splinter of the Minds Eye"! The concept of a new generation of heroes taking over for old retiring heroes is a VERY old one.
I think most of the cry for SJW is it just seems that people are trying to change the classics with on real good reason other than to just be more politically correct.
Perhaps your impression is wrong and showing you
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Dude, the formula for the movies didn't change, you did. First of all, you left out one of everyone's favorite characters, LANDO. You know, the only black guy in the original universe. Not to mention that Leia was a bad ass in her own right, she was about as feminist as she could get.
The fact that you unironically brought up original characters as something antithetical to SJ pretty much says it all. Maybe if you watch the movies without whatever lense makes you think the character choices were some kin
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People perceive the remakes more as a PC, make everything right socially product, rather than a good story. Change for change sake alone.
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what the perception is out in the general public
People perceive the remakes more as a PC
I think you're conflating "alt-right gamergater anti-sjw types" with the general public. And also your statement says more about YOUR perceptions than anything else. Perhaps you are seeing an agenda that isn't there?
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What are you talking about. Not only did they not change the gender/race/identity of any of the existing characters, they got the same actors to play them! Or are you upset they they keep adding new films instead of infinite reboots?
I will grant that TFA was too much like ANH, if that's what you meant. But it didn't make me say "gee, they made Luke a girl" in this reboot, it mademe say "gee, why didn't they do something more original". I'm joking of course, I knew it was going to be like that when they h
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What identity politics? If anything the guys complaining about identity politics are the one with identity politics because they're complaining about having a female lead. White male IS an identity, boys, and if you start complaining about SJW's ruining things by having non-white or non-male characters..well you're engaging in identity politics...and bigotry, though you probably don't think you're being the latter..because YOU don't think of "White male" as an identity.
Well lookie here and who showed up! Thank you! You are the very model of what I am talking about. Do you think that women were nonexistent in cinema before 2016? Do you think that women before 2016 were porterayed as barefoot and pregnant, and kept in the kitchen?
Do you think that Characters of what you racist bigots call black or non male didn't exist before then?
You are the sexist - you are the racist. You are the dyed in the wool full scale bigot. Sorry - Race is the ultimate social construct, an
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Do you think that women were nonexistent in cinema before 2016?
No, but we're talking about star wars here and how some people like you are claiming to see an "SJW agenda"
You are the sexist - you are the racist. You are the dyed in the wool full scale bigot. Sorry - Race is the ultimate social construct, and you are racist to the core.
How predictable, the old "liberals are the real racists" dialog. Parrot that from D'nesh D'Souza or some "alt right atheist rationalist" website or something?
Just because you went right to "White Guys". Welcome and say hi to your brethren. You just have a different group, based on skin pigmentation and geographical recent origins that you hate.
I said white guys because YOU started going on about identity politics, not realizing that by doing so you are engaging in it, but don't realize it because "white male" is considered the "baseline" so you don't think of it as an identity. I'm whi
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Do you think that women were nonexistent in cinema before 2016?
No, but we're talking about star wars here and how some people like you are claiming to see an "SJW agenda"
You are the sexist - you are the racist. You are the dyed in the wool full scale bigot. Sorry - Race is the ultimate social construct, and you are racist to the core.
How predictable, the old "liberals are the real racists" dialog. Parrot that from D'nesh D'Souza or some "alt right atheist rationalist" website or something?
Any pridictability is based on your assumptions and not reality based.
First off, I'm no liberal. I sometimes might take what might be a "liberal stance" such as I'm pro-choice, and accepting of people with alternate sexual preferences as long as it's two adult humans. But other concepts I have might be considered somewhat right wing. But I would be otherwise considered middle of the road. I think about things before I make a judgement, unlike the far left and right, who usually just get told what their op
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Especially when the "Star Wars Galaxy's Edge" attendance has been off by enough to reduce employee hours, and overall, both Disneyland and DisneyWorld attendance is down.
Of course attendance is down. Disney's advertised this awesome new area that's immersive and is a theme that many people enjoy, but it's not open yet in Orlando and the Disneyland version isn't fully open and required reservations for most of the summer. It costs a lot of money to go to Disney, so it makes sense that a lot of people are waiting until the area is fully open.
It's the same idea as console sales dropping when a new generation is coming out.
Westworld (Score:2)
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I was thinking Dream Park but Westworld is a better match.
First Order? (Score:2)
What on earth is the first order anyways.. and why should I care?
The Empire was defeated.. the nonsensical first order is lame. They really jumped the shark, especially with the last movie.
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Agreed. What is the "First Order", what is their goal, and why do they hate the resistance so much? Where do they get the funds to build their massive armies and fleets?
The Empire we understood. It was the massive galactic military government and they wanted to quell any rebellion.
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You ever read the Expanded Universe stuff? Well the First Order IS the equivalent of the "Imperial Remnant" in the Expanded Universe. They control certain areas outside of New Republic control. The Resistance is a splinter faction of the New Republic who have been trying to get the New Republic to see the First Order as a more serious threat. They have some "unofficial" support from the New Republic but not enough.
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And that's the problem. You have to be familiar with a hundred novels, and then do some handwaving, to sort of understand the plot of the new movies. A hundred novels that the new movies explicitly render non-canon, by the way.
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The First Order is mentioned as being the remnant of the Imperials in the new movies. It's mentioned several times that they consider themselves the real government and the Heir to the old Empire.
There's no need to read the Thrawn novels or whatever...though as I said, the First Order is basically the canon version of the Imperial remnant of the non-canon Expanded Universe.
Thrawn himself was made canon though, brought in the new canon novels.
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And that's the problem. You have to be familiar with a hundred novels, and then do some handwaving, to sort of understand the plot of the new movies. A hundred novels that the new movies explicitly render non-canon, by the way.
I understood the plot perfectly... sure, I don't know everything that happened between the old movies and the new, but I didn't feel like I needed to. I haven't read any novels, or watched their stupid animated crap... I just watched the films.
I don't think the films are as good, but I don't feel like I need to read any novels to understand them either.
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I know everything that happened between the old movies and the new too, and that's why the new movies have ruined the old movies.
The end of Episode 6 was a triumphant victory. All our characters came together and defeated the enemy.
The start of Episode 7 was a smack in the face where:
-The Emperor was defeated, but there is basically a new emperor with a new Darth Vader terrorizing the galaxy with a new Empire, new fleet, and new super weapon
-Han and Leia turned out to be a shitty couple that got separated a
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The end of Episode 6 was a triumphant victory. All our characters came together and defeated the enemy.
I am going to quote The Last Unicorn at you:
There are no happy endings because nothing ends. - Schmendrick the Magician.
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It's the "we couldn't think to do anything creative so we tried to soft-reboot ANH, but we never bothered to understand the Jungian archetypes."
I could waste my time rattling off a dozen better plotlines that they could have used, but Disney has killed the already-wounded franchise (by Lucas, deliberately).
They're going to do time-travel in their next movie to undo some of the stupid plotlines they've backed themselves into. The kind of people who will go on Disney Rebellion cruises will shout, "clever!" a
Stars Wars? (Score:2)
This is great news! (Score:2)
Pretty sure I would have loved this (Score:3)
As a kid, Star Tours was one of my favorite Disneyland rides, and this sounds like a super-sized extended version of it. The thirteen year old me would have absolutely loved this, I think. Disney does a great job at putting you in different worlds, and I've always appreciated that attention to aesthetic. My favorite place to eat in Disneyland was the Blue Bayou, the restaurant at the entrance of the Pirates of the Carribean ride, and the immersive quality of that environment was amazing, down to artificial fireflies floating in the distance. I can imagine, if they do this right, it could really be an amazing experience.
LOL (Score:1)
Cant wait for it to be on 50% sale. No way I'm going either way.
get woke, go broke!
They're bringing in characters from the movies? (Score:2)
It seems like having characters from the movies present like the above mentioned Rey and Kylo would ruin the immersiveness of this thing as they would obviously be played by different actors and would therefore not look like the characters they are portraying.
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It seems like having characters from the movies present like the above mentioned Rey and Kylo would ruin the immersiveness of this thing as they would obviously be played by different actors and would therefore not look like the characters they are portraying.
With Kylo just leave the mask on, problem solved. In fact, I'm pretty sure Adam Driver should just always wear that mask. He doesn't really have the "evil bad guy look" like Tarkin, Palpatine, or even Dooku did. I don't get "evil" from him at all, mostly just whiney. As for Rey, well, you can bet they've already had other people playing her in the existing Star Wars part of the park, and they have a large enough pool of employees and potential employees to find someone that looks like Daisy Ridley. Bas
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"Basically the same thing they do with the Snow Whites, Cinderallas, and Elsa/Annas they have walking around the parks."
Those are all cartoon characters so that really isn't the same thing at all. Even some one who looks kind of like Daisy (which is about as good as it will likely get) she'll still stand out like a sore thumb in an otherwise immersive environment.
I do agree that Adam Driver should keep his mask on though.
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"Basically the same thing they do with the Snow Whites, Cinderallas, and Elsa/Annas they have walking around the parks."
Those are all cartoon characters so that really isn't the same thing at all. Even some one who looks kind of like Daisy (which is about as good as it will likely get) she'll still stand out like a sore thumb in an otherwise immersive environment.
I do agree that Adam Driver should keep his mask on though.
It's Disney, so this experience is at least theoretically aimed towards kids. So in that case, as long as the girl somewhat looks like Rey, she's good enough to be Rey.
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as long as the girl somewhat looks like Rey,
Disney has put on numerous stage shows based on their movies
(Lion King and Alladin were both boxoffice smashes)
and the actors look nothing like the characters in the movies.
Nobody cares.
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You're right, no one cares about stage shows.
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"It's Disney, so this experience is at least theoretically aimed towards kids. So in that case, as long as the girl somewhat looks like Rey, she's good enough to be Rey."
Every single one of the Star Wars movies that have been made since Disney acquired the franchise have been rated PG-13 so they clearly are not aiming this franchise towards kids, at least not the young ones which you seem to be getting at.
Like the Futureworld moive? (Score:2)
Like the Futureworld moive?
cruise-like experience (Score:3)
If it's not a cruise, doesn't that make it just a theme park that's somewhat more specialized than usual?
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A cruise kind of indicates that there will be stops at designated destinations. So here they are just stuck on the ship for the days.
It's a 2-day "cruise" with a "port day" on Batuu(Galaxy's edge). The "at sea(space)" day would have different activities on board. So it's literally structured like a cruise.
Disney does the world a favor (Score:3)
Golgafrincham Ark Fleet Ship B
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Oh, dear. Have cell phones made telephone sanitizers redundant?
Less painful than the NASA launch simulator? (Score:3)
The CN Tower used to do something like this. (Score:3)
It wasn't a two day ride, more like a two hour one. You had to check in at the spaceport in the basement of the CN Tower, where things like lasers (made visible by mist) would scan you, providing wonderful security theatre. It was all pretty fancy for a children's ride in the 1980's. Eventually you would get in to "the spaceship" which purportedly launched from the basement of the tower right out the very tippy top! I went two or three times as a kid, and had a blast. The last time that I went, there was a malfunction with the set, a gap in the facade, and I got to see the "spaceship" from the outside. It was of course just a flight simulator that had been converted in to a smallish movie theatre held up by a bunch of hydraulic pistons that allowed it to tilt and bump and turn. Great fun. I was sad when it shut down.
From Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]:
Tour of the Universe was a space shuttle simulation ride located in the basement level of the CN Tower. Operating between 1985 and 1992, it was the world's first flight simulator ride.
The ride was the idea of Moses Znaimer and designed by SimEx. The name of the ride, Tour of the Universe, and its content were adapted from a work of the same name cowritten in 1980 by Robert Holdstock and Malcolm Edwards, who sold the rights for the ride.
Construction began in 1984 and the ride began operations in 1986. Built by Showscan Film, the ride used two Boeing 747 simulators designed and built by Redifusion Ltd in Crawley, UK. Showscan designed and built the spacecraft themed cabin that seated the 40 passengers. Director, special effects expert and Showscan owner Douglas Trumbull produced the show film. The ride system and its controls were later the basis for Disneyland's Star Tours ride.
The ride was replaced in 1992 with a similar attraction entitled "Space Race." It was later dismantled and replaced by two other SimEx rides in 1998 and 1999.
The ride featured a round trip spaceflight to Jupiter. Passengers first boarded an elevator that took them into the depths of the CN Tower (CN stands for Canadian National, one of the two major railroad companies at the time, and as far as I know, the only one that is still in operation, hence "CN Tower") and forward to the year 2019, arriving at Spaceport Toronto. Operated by CP (Canadian Pacific, the former competitor the CN) Air Interplanetary (or Canadian Interplanetary after CP Air was absorbed by Canadian in 1987), the shuttle resembled the US space shuttle, but instead of a cargo bay the ship had a passenger compartment.
Before boarding their flight, passengers moved through various themed areas of the spaceport such as Customs, Security and Medical. Passengers would be able to print out their tickets and be inoculated against space diseases such as "Ganymede Rash".
When aboard the interplanetary shuttle, passengers were launched upward through the hollow core of the CN Tower, arriving at a space station in orbit, and traveling to Jupiter while dodging an asteroid.
A theme hotel based on "Space balls" (Score:3)
Escorted Out (Score:2)
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I just want to know if, when the First Order "attacks" the hotel, if you can join in and help them instead of defend the "ship"
please god let it end (Score:2)
why are we still worshiping this bloated corpse ffs...
Welcome to Fhloston Paradise! (Score:2)
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"live your very own epic Star Wars story."
Sorry, call me un-woke but I prefer to retain my current gender & ethnicity, thanks Disney you destroyers of cultural icons to signal your alleged virtue to a bunch of pillow-biters and pearl-clutchers that wouldn't spend any money on Star Wars-themed anything no matter how woke it was, as you are currently finding out.
Strat
The whacked out thing about Disney's identity politics thrust is twofold. One is that it was So. Damn. Clumsy. Politics can be subtly inserted without making a movie look like a political ad for the Woke Alliance.
The second thing is the real kicker. The attacks on fans that had the temerity to offer criticism.
It just becomes an expose' on the identity politics set. Clumsy, and unable to take telling. Irredeemably racist and sexist. This is why they eventually eat their young.
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The attacks on fans that had the temerity to offer criticism.
It wasn't criticism, it was a bunch of jordan peterson worshipping aspie parrot neckbeards being all butthurt when a female character was the lead. It was misogyny, not criticism.
You're pretty pathetic if you think that is either clever or any kind or argument. I have great sympathy for you.
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Aspie's parrot behavior. They're prone to latch on to someone they admire and start patterning themselves off of them because they simply don't get "social stuff". So if you get a bunch of them on the internet, especially ones that identify as "atheist rationalists" that can lead them down a dangerous rabbit-hole that leads them to some of the nastier corners of the internet. And since they don't get social stuff, they don't understand that they're really not as smart as they think they are.
I've worked with a number of people who fit on the social construct of autism spectrum - therefore constructed as Asperger's. Your stereotyping is woefully incorrect.
And the argument over the reaction to the criticism is a little off as well. The people who have produced the last few SW movies are presumably woke and inclusive. One would think that the way to handle presumptive "aspies" would not be to attack them, but with kindness as one would treat any differently abled people.
So one might be bette
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Sorry, call me un-woke but I prefer to retain my current gender & ethnicity
No one is saying otherwise, but shouldn't people other than white guys be able to see themselves as Jedi or Rebel pilots?
thanks Disney you destroyers of cultural icons
How did they destroy it?
a bunch of pillow-biters
Learn that phrase from your dad? Did he beat your mother?
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Learn that phrase from your dad? Did he beat your mother?
No, he beat actual Nazis as a combat infantryman in N. Africa in WW2, came back and behaved as one of the kindest and wisest (as I came to realize after my teen years) men I've ever known.
Oh, and fuck you.
Strat
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It may be used against gay people, but it is by comparing gay men to women. A la: "Those gay sissy freaks are take it up the ass like women take it up the pussy."
Meaning when used on gay men it is homophobia AND misogyny at the same time.
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MGTOW? MGTOW's are basically just like incels, only they're divorced guys who claim they're ignoring women and going their own way but spend all their time talking about women and how they hate them.