Notorious Movies and TV Shows That Have Never Been Released (hollywoodreporter.com) 200
From "Batgirl" to "Star Wars Detours" to "Seriously, Dude, I'm Gay," the Hollywood Reporter highlights twelve infamous films and series that made headlines for being canceled -- and are not available anywhere. From the report: The vast majority of axed Hollywood projects are run-of-the-mill concepts that simply didn't work out or eventually find their way online. That's not the case with these titles. The below roundup of films and TV series features projects you cannot see anywhere that have achieved a level of notoriety -- either due to their scandalous content or because fans desperately want to see them (or both). The list includes: 1. Batgirl
2. Ultimate Slip 'N Slide
3. Tremors (2018 TV Pilot)
4. Star Wars: Detours
5. Seriously, Dude, I'm Gay
6. My Best Friend's Birthday
7. 100 Years
8. Uncle Tom's Fairytales
9. Bloodmoon (Game of Thrones Prequel)
10. The Original Game of Thrones Pilot
11. Our Little Genius
12. The Day the Clown Cried Some of the canceled shows were yanked for "creative reasons" or the potential to ruin a company's brand; others were given no reasoning whatsoever, leaving it up to speculation.
Under each show included on the list is an explanation of events that help to explain why it's one of the "most legendary of the unseen." You can view the full article here.
2. Ultimate Slip 'N Slide
3. Tremors (2018 TV Pilot)
4. Star Wars: Detours
5. Seriously, Dude, I'm Gay
6. My Best Friend's Birthday
7. 100 Years
8. Uncle Tom's Fairytales
9. Bloodmoon (Game of Thrones Prequel)
10. The Original Game of Thrones Pilot
11. Our Little Genius
12. The Day the Clown Cried Some of the canceled shows were yanked for "creative reasons" or the potential to ruin a company's brand; others were given no reasoning whatsoever, leaving it up to speculation.
Under each show included on the list is an explanation of events that help to explain why it's one of the "most legendary of the unseen." You can view the full article here.
The powers that be... (Score:2)
Ultimately, the powers that be decided in their massive corporate reorganization, the $90 million to develop Batgirl, (with many A-listers, like Michael Keaton as batman), was better spent as a tax write-off [hollywoodreporter.com] then as an investment requiring a few more tens of millions to market it internationally.
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How bad must a movie be that you think you can't even recover the cost for its ad campaign?
But I think the reason is a different one. They've seen what happens to an IP when a movie is met with lackluster reviews. The Batman universe is one of the biggest IP assets for DC, and most of the movies set in this universe had fairly good reviews, some of them had worse reviews (like Suicide Squad) but they still did well at the box office. Some, like Joker, were met with very mixed, if not outright hostile, revie
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It sucks. If it were a hit, they'd release it, regardless of how much it may change tonal direction, or a few tens of million more to push it out the door.
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Star Wars Detours clips on youtube. Several. Disney canned it the moment they bought Lucasfilm.
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I'm fairly sure it was the tax write-off, although there is some suggestion that the new boss wants to continue with the Zack Snyder DC universe, known as the DCEU. That doesn't seem very practical given that some of the actors are out of contract and unlikely to return.
There is also The Flash movie that they need to either release or ditch. Apparently they are considering three possibilities.
1. Ezra Miller issues a public statement explaining their actions and apologising, then does limited publicity.
2. Li
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I agree; the movie itself might be more "meh" than "ew", but we've seen it with Star Wars - a lackluster movie can keep paying viewers away from even related movies and other media.
And as I understand it, post-production isn't done either, so there's more millions there just to finish the movie up, do the special effects, all that.
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Like I said elsewhere, some movies are bad enough that they can sink a whole franchise. Single movies rarely have that kind of impact, unless they rewrite the universe in ways that can't be salvaged anymore, and such a feat is exceedingly rare, but it doesn't take a lot. 2-3 bad movies in a row that piss fans off is often already enough to destroy an IP worth billions.
What bad movies do, though, is they tarnish the IP. They may even perform well because people go to a franchise movie because of the franchis
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Like I said elsewhere, some movies are bad enough that they can sink a whole franchise. Single movies rarely have that kind of impact, unless they rewrite the universe in ways that can't be salvaged anymore
*cough* Ghostbusters (2016) *cough*
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That movie is easy to resolve. Disown it, kick it out of the canon and move on.
It's way harder if other media already built on top of the train wreck.
Re: The powers that be... (Score:5, Insightful)
Can you cite a single example of a movie that did anything like you describe? E.g. cutting a fight scene to talk about unisex bathrooms.
From what I have seen all the complaining about wokeness is things like there being a lesbian married couple on screen for literally 3 seconds in Lightyear.
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The stupid femboot of Ghost Busters (2016) [youtube.com] is the perfect example of gender swapping due to greed.
Re: The powers that be... (Score:4, Interesting)
Can you cite a single example [...]
Well, the recent Sandman series from Netflix changed John Constantine's sex to female, made her a lesbian, and also made sure her lover's race was changed to black. I don't know how they missed the "Save the whales!" sticker, or they'd have got a bingo.
I expect you'll assure us there were good directorial and plot reasons for those ridiculous changes, of course. I don't even know who's the more deserving target for mockery anymore: Netflix, who has gone fully bonkers, or people who refuse point blank to acknowledge this happens and come up with the most extraordinary rationalizations...
Re: The powers that be... (Score:4, Funny)
You're example of "getting out much" is watching CW?
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Re: The powers that be... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is what I'm talking about. There was a scene that was about 1 minute long where they discussed being non-binary and preferred pronouns. Out of four seasons of material.
If that's enough to upset you then maybe TV isn't for you.
Re: The powers that be... (Score:3)
Not seen it myself, but I would think that the best way to encourage use of preferred pronouns or whatever would be to just have characters just using them and NOT explaining or questioning it.
The viewer would pick up on the 'unfamiliar-to-the-viewer' pronoun use, but would see that the characters all treated it as normal and were ok with it.
Re: The powers that be... (Score:4, Insightful)
Part of her character arc was a coming of age, finding herself kind of thing, and becoming the adopted kid of two of the other characters. The other two happen to be gay but it's never mentioned, it's just shown from time to time as the plot requires.
On Strange New Worlds it just happens off screen and isn't mentioned. There is a baddie who is pretending to be someone else, a woman, but reveals that she is actually a pirate. From that point on everyone uses gender neutral pronouns, presumably because they picked it up from the other pirates who already knew that they were non-binary. It's a good episode.
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Not seen it myself, but I would think that the best way to encourage use of preferred pronouns or whatever would be to just have characters just using them and NOT explaining or questioning it.
Well, according to every teacher I've ever had in my entire life, the best way to get "preferred" non-words accepted into society, is to add them to the fucking RULES of spelling and grammar we've been taught to follow our entire lives.
Then you WON'T have to explain or question it.
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Can you cite a single example of a movie that did anything like you describe?
There was a scene that was about 1 minute long where they discussed being non-binary and preferred pronouns. Out of four seasons of material.
You asked for "a single example" and you got several examples. Now you're complaining that one of those examples only make up a small part of the show.
Stop trying to move the goals posts.
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This is what I'm talking about. There was a scene that was about 1 minute long where they discussed being non-binary and preferred pronouns. Out of four seasons of material.
I'm pretty sure the people who are complaining about Discovery's "wokeness" are mostly quoting things they read somewhere, and have never watched the show. When the show was new (and before I'd watched any of it), I kept seeing posts here complaining about the lead character being a lesbian. Once I started watching, I wondered "what orifice did those posters pull that complaint out of?"
Discovery isn't perfect - I thought season two sucked pretty hard. And I do get a bit tired of it pretty much always being
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That the film supposedly featured black lesbian Batgirl, now with Asian transgender best friend, would indeed point towards elitist lefty politics ruining this film. I'm not sure their audience would be comic book readers. Certainly American comics did itself in by ditching their older readers in favour of an imagine young and woke audience, which never materialised.
Superhero films succeed despite American comics circling the drain. Films rely more on a normie audience than comics readers. There simply aren
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I'd be a similar demographic to you, although I picked up comics again, these days reading mostly crowdfunded stuff. Yeah, the American industry killed itself. First they ditched the newsstand, drastically reducing the pipeline of new young readers. Then they went woke, ensuring the older readers would leave. Comics overall are doing well, at least European comics and Manga. It's the US publishers who fucked up.
Realistically, I doubt any but a tiny percentage of MCU or DC whatever viewers ever read comics.
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American Comics also has the problem that there's no obvious way to get into the story for new readers. I've dipped in a few times over the decades, mostly because my dad used to like them when he was a kid. But I never could find the beginning of the story, and so it was always basically a random small part of a random story. Now that my dad has passed away, I doubt I have a reason to go spend $6+ for a single comic book. Oh, and the price - Even if there's a compilation, it's like $40 or way more. Which o
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Re:The powers that be... (Score:4, Funny)
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Surely Supertrain must be on that list as well.
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The thing is, does anyone care that she's latina OR lesbian? Frankly, I neither want to do an immigration test with her nor make out with her, I want to see her hunt down supervillains, throw about her bat-gimmicks and be awesome.
Can we get back to that formula, please? Where superheroes were first of all superheroes and then vehicles for teaching people how to be better humans?
Anyone remember that last minute of every 80s cartoon show with the "moral lesson" of the day? The part where the kids would go to
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Then we could finally stop the damn innuendos about Batman and Robin and have them turn the Batcave into some sort of BDSM bar.
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If it had tits and wore tights, Batman was fucking it.
I bet Robin was thankful for that.
And for not having tits.
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You might have noticed that the "Save the whales" message in Star Trek was a framing device for an otherwise actually hilarious movie. You could even easily replace it with them getting something else from the past and you still have the same exact movie. It was a plot device and nothing else, a McGuffin to get, not the centerpiece of the show.
It's not that movies and series in the past were devoid of any "moralizing" undertones. But they were undertones, they were not the one thing the movie was about, wit
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You will note that he didn't actually call them a racial bigot. He said it looks bad, which it does. Cancelling a film that would have had a Latina Batgirl for the sake of a tax write-off does look like Warner simply doesn't care about the importance of that representation.
In other words they are not bigots, they are just corporate arseholes who put profit above culture and social justice.
Shitting on the fans this way probably won't work out very well for them.
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In other words they are not bigots, they are just corporate arseholes who put profit above culture and social justice.
Yeah, that's what corporations are for, evading justice.
All of them.
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You will note that he didn't actually call them a racial bigot.
If we were talking about right wing things we'd call that a dog whistle. It gets the message out that he believes that the movie was cut because the person playing batgirl was Latina (which btw, is not a "race:)
He said it looks bad, which it does. Cancelling a film that would have had a Latina Batgirl for the sake of a tax write-off does look like Warner simply doesn't care about the importance of that representation.
Especially to people with a deep obsession that all things are "race" based. If a person is obsessed to that level, they measure everything through race based eyes.
I don't know if you know it or not, but other than some kooks, most of us here in the US at least don't even consider Latino/Latina
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Cancelling a film that would have had a Latina Batgirl for the sake of a tax write-off does look like Warner simply doesn't care about the importance of that representation.
Bluntly? Because it isn't for this kind of movie.
It is a superhero movie. Not a movie about the struggles of an immigrant girl trying to push past the boundaries levied upon those that don't happen to fall out of the "right" vagina at birth. Also a very cool subject for a movie and certainly one I'd want to watch because I love that kind of stuff, but it's not what you expect when you go to a superhero movie.
People going into movies have expectations. If you don't deliver that, they'll be disappointed. If M
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Not a movie about the struggles of an immigrant girl trying to push past the boundaries levied upon those that don't happen to fall out of the "right" vagina at birth.
That's a not uncommon superhero origin story, overcoming adversity. It worked pretty well for Miles Morales, for example. Or Kamala Khan. Plenty of explosions in their media too.
Black Panther did well. The sequel looks interesting. It will be interesting to see how Captain America 4 does, given that the lead is now black.
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That's because these characters are written with this background in mind. With Batgirl, this would only work out if you first of all somehow kill off Barbara Gordon, because why would the canonically white Police chief of Gotham have a latina daughter? And doing this just for the sake of having a latina lead will almost certainly cause negative reactions.
Also, I can't help but consider the Black Panther movie kinda racist. If you depict African culture as one where only brute force is considered important,
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Good point, it's illegal for white guys to have children with Latina women, or adopt. Gotham, the caped crime fighters, all that I can buy, but a white guy with a Latina daughter?
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If she had been introduced as a latina daughter, adopted or whatever, no problem. The problem is, she wasn't. There is an established in-universe Batgirl that has certain established properties. You can't just retcon a character because you don't like her and expect the audience to just shrug it off. People will want to know why established universe lore needs to change.
A franchise only works if people actually care what is happening to your characters and your universe. That's how you build a fanbase. That
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"The latina Batgirl movie"? That sounds racist to me. That's like "Black Debbie" from Sealab2021.
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"The latina Batgirl movie"? That sounds racist to me. That's like "Black Debbie" from Sealab2021.
Bonus points for working Sealab2021 into the conversation. Well played indeed! 8^)
Yes - the comic book kingpin made an extremely racist statement. Anyone in the neighborhood want to try to argue that making a spcifically race based statement wasn't racist? I'd love to hear their logic.
They can't, because the woke are such intense racists that they look at every aspect of life in terms of race.
The weird part is that race is the penultimate social construct.
Maybe it is for the better (Score:2)
It may not matter much for movies that are one-shots. Movies set in their own universe that have no responsibility to bear when it comes to canon and expectations towards other movies. This is different for movies that are set in a universe they share with other movies and other media. By doing something, allowing something to happen or the opposite, declaring something impossible (so there is no easy way out and the heroes have to use a more convoluted, and dramatically more interesting, way around), you c
But Batgirl is unique (Score:3)
None of those in the list even remotely burnt through $90m and finished filming with A-list actors. Lumping Batgirl in with the rest of them really doesn't do the insanity of not releasing it any justice.
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Had it been released, it might fit better on a list with Heaven's Gate and Waterworld.
Now they can just lie. But nobody refuses to release a hit, not in this town. Therefore, it sucks.
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Studios end up releasing lots of sucky movies, hoping that overseas, DVD and streaming might at least put the film in the black. For a studio to literally take what sounds like a nearly finished film and deep six it means it was more than bad.
Perhaps at some point the studio will green light someone trying to recut the film and some version may emerge. Or possibly someone will leak it. Because this is pretty much right up there with Jerry Lewis's The Day The Clown Cried, which is probably the most sought af
Sunk cost fallacies (Score:2)
Studios end up releasing lots of sucky movies, hoping that overseas, DVD and streaming might at least put the film in the black.
It can be complicated, but there's a bit of sunk cost fallacy here. Basically, you always consider the money already spent as gone. Null for the purposes of calculating future profit. All you care about at that point is the FUTURE money that needs to be spent to bring in the profit.
So if you've spent $100M on a film, think that if you spend $20M finishing, advertising, and releasing it* that you can make $50M. The logical option is to release it, even though you fully think that it will never come close
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But nobody refuses to release a hit, not in this town. Therefore, it sucks.
Whether it sucks or not is not the question. The question is why does a studio known for putting out some of the worst pieces of shit ever committed to film not release it to at least recoup some costs from their die hard fans.
I mean how bad can it be? Surely it's no Battlefield Earth [rottentomatoes.com] or Catwoman [rottentomatoes.com] or Ecks vs Sever [rottentomatoes.com]
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None of those in the list even remotely burnt through $90m and finished filming with A-list actors. Lumping Batgirl in with the rest of them really doesn't do the insanity of not releasing it any justice.
Why is it insanity? Test viewings all indicate that it was Battlefield Earth levels of bad, and the consensus in Hollywood is that the movie was probably un-salvagable and would have to be nearly completely re-shot. Word is that it made Halle Berry's Catwoman look like Lawrence of Arabia in comparison. DC is still feeling the sting of their chopped up version of Justice League, and the collapse of that whole planned Marvel-like film universe, so it's no wonder they decided that, all things considered, the t
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Batgirl had bad pre-screenings (Score:5, Insightful)
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All I can say is if that's the fact, then "thank you screening audience".
We need more people throwing shit at screens when the movies suck.
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The problems with John Carter were many and varied and at no point did "toxic masculinity" make it on the list. The biggest problem was the writing. Rather than starting with Princess of Mars, and setting up a series of movies, they grabbed bits and pieces from several of the stories and duct taped them all together in a jumbled mish-mash that even long-time readers of the source material were struggling to follow. Trying to crowbar "toxic masculinity" as a criticism of this movie says more about you than the failed flick.
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The problems with John Carter were many and varied and at no point did "toxic masculinity" make it on the list. The biggest problem was the writing. Rather than starting with Princess of Mars, and setting up a series of movies, they grabbed bits and pieces from several of the stories and duct taped them all together in a jumbled mish-mash that even long-time readers of the source material were struggling to follow. Trying to crowbar "toxic masculinity" as a criticism of this movie says more about you than the failed flick.
Its the same with "woke" which has really just become (yet another) byword that is meant to mean "I don't like this but cant argue against it because I'd sound like a complete cunt".
Some movies/shows are just completely shit because the story is a disjointed mess, sometimes the actors are terrible or the direction is awful (I suspect Batgirl may be a combo of all 3). Those trying to shoehorn their beliefs, especially bigoted ones, be it "wokey cokey", "toxic masculinity" or any other flavour of the month
Re:Batgirl had bad pre-screenings (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually most of the people who complain about "woke" movies do so for legitimately sucky movies. It's not about them looking like a cunt, but rather that people have no idea what makes a good or bad movie. Then they come across a bad movie, but they don't understand the concepts of character development, compelling writing, showing not telling, and all that basic writing 101 stuff, and instead the only thing they can grasp onto is "the last movie I liked had a male cast, and therefore the bad must be because of wokeness".
The problem is people are simple folk who have no idea what makes something good or bad so they latch onto talking points.
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Stories with huge, shirtless muscular men and fancy bikini-clad princesses are awesome.
It's sad this culture is not respected, for sadly ancient political reasons dressed in modern BS.
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Woke?
Paper Girls is a great show, the way Stranger Things used to be.
But for one bizarre woke line shoehorned in that clanks like an 1880s trolly in St. Louis, it's a great ride.
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The problems with John Carter were many and varied and at no point did "toxic masculinity" make it on the list. The biggest problem was the writing. Rather than starting with Princess of Mars, and setting up a series of movies, they grabbed bits and pieces from several of the stories and duct taped them all together in a jumbled mish-mash that even long-time readers of the source material were struggling to follow. Trying to crowbar "toxic masculinity" as a criticism of this movie says more about you than the failed flick.
For what it's worth, I've never read any of the John Carter books and had no problem at all with the movie. The film wasn't really aimed at people like you who have read the books and complained about it being a mish-mash. The real problem with John Carter is that the only way to sell the movie to a public that largely knows absolutely nothing about the books is that the trailer had to be something like this - "Before Star Wars, before Star Trek, there was John Carter." The trailer had to let people k
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The problem with John Carter was nobody knew who the fuck John Carter is supposed to be. My dad recognized the name because he has a lot of scifi books. People saw the name of the movie and shrugged it off.
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John Carter has quite a few flaws, but where does toxic masculinity enter the fold? Because Disney didn't want to call it "A princess from Mars" (like the original book's title) because it has nothing to do with what people usually expect when they hear "Disney" and "Princess"?
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You can write off all expenses in tax. That is the nature of only taxing profits.
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May I refer you to the plot of the highly profitable play known as The Producers?
Re:Batgirl had bad pre-screenings (Score:4, Insightful)
Welcome to Hollywood accounting. The studio claimed Lord Of The Rings lost money in order to not pay Peter Jackson.
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As far as I can tell the claims that Batgirl is woke come down to the cast being of fairly average diversity.
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Fairly average diversity is a Hispanic black bisexual woman and an Asian transgender? What population are drawing from in determining this average?
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From what population are you drawing this average? Forget fairy tales of gays and transes hiding in caves, waiting to emerge when your utopia dawns. What real population?
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TV
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From what population are you drawing this average?
The same average population which produces superheroes. In case you haven't noticed, it's a work of fiction about not average people. But it seems to really offend you if the not average people aren't straight white men.
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focus on fashionable identities,
That alone says so much. You ultimately believe straight, white man is the default and anything else is a deviation which has to be justified, and you confirm that with:
gay out if narrative necessity
You have never once complained that someone was straight but not out of narrative necessity. You are very clearly biased against anything not straight white male. You accept that by default and feel that anything else has to be justified but the straight white man doesn't.
Create
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You are far from the norm. Either you don't understand statistics or you're deluded into thinking everyone lives in Dirk's world of multi-ethnic dick girls. I can help with the former, the latter is your problem.
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Let's look at the stats. This is movie that has we'll say 25 names characters (I think that is fair). It is set in an urban area. The characters are going to mainly younger (since Batgirl is younger herself). So a movie set in an urban area with young people and you think this is unreasonable casting? 5% of young people are trans or non-binary (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/07/about-5-of-young-adults-in-the-u-s-say-their-gender-is-different-from-their-sex-assigned-at-birth/). As of 2018, abo
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100% the post above me.
I'm tired of this nonsense culture war shit where everything is "woke".
The year the Clown Cries (Score:2)
Sweet! Setting a reminder in the calendar. Sounds like a real heartbreaker of a film.
Rolling Stones Rock & Roll Circus (Score:2)
AFAIK Mick Jagger has never approved the release of the full footage of "Rolling Stones Rock & Roll Circus". No one knows exactly why, as the acts that were able to get their own scenes back and release look pretty good. Maybe the Stones were just out-performed by The Who and ole Mick wants to take that secret to his grave.
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That's the general theory, because The Who's performance of A Quick One While He's Away is probably one of the greatest bits of rock and roll to ever be filmed. Heck, even John Lennon leading Eric Clapton, Keith Richards and Mitch Mitchell in the Dirty Mac (if there was ever a band deserving of supergroup, the Dirty Mac has to be it) in a rendition of Yer Blues was pretty good as well.
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FYI, TRSR&RC has been out on video for years.
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Maybe the Stones were just out-performed by The Who and ole Mick wants to take that secret to his grave.
I've always preferred The Who over the Rolling Stones anyway...
Some came through (Score:2)
Unfortunately the title can't get past the /. Lameness filter.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2... [imdb.com]
Only one episode of Star Wars Detours leaked? (Score:2)
Well that's funny, I happen to have a pack of 7 episodes that fell off a truck... [magnet]
"The Day the Clow Cried"... (Score:2)
I think Jerry Lewis was a no-talent hack, and an awful person.
But I can kind of see what he maybe was trying to do with this movie. I think he was going for "The Holocaust was even more awful than you can imagine". A clown that distracts Jewish kids as they are herded into the ovens? Yeah, that definitely would get that point across.
I think maybe Lewis thought "This is going to be incredibly offensive, but that is the point". But there is a line you can't cross, and he crossed it.
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To me it sounds like a zanier version of Life is Beautiful (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118799/) for which Roberto Benigni won an oscar.
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The topic could certainly have worked as a heart-string yanker, but you have to be very, very careful how you pull it off. Lewis was mostly known for his comedies and this would absolutely certainly not have been a comedy, despite him playing a clown. There is no room for actual humor in a movie like that, any humor shown would have required to be strangled and choked for the audience to know that it's not to be laughed at.
Pulling that off would have been quite nontrivial. Twice so for a typecast guy like L
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The 1994 Fantastic Four movie made by Roger Corman, for the sole purpose of retaining the copyright (not by Corman, but by the studio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
I Love You Daddy by Louis CK, though I think he bought the film and could release it in the future.
I don't think Rust will ever be released, though it was technically unfinished.
There were a few films well into production that were drastically changed or dropped altogether when John Lasseter was put in charge of Disney animation. Probably for
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After Revenge of the Sith, Lucasfilm had also begun pre-production work on a series supposed to take place between RoTS and ANH. I believe they even had scripts written. Unfortunately, it never saw the light of day.
Maybe if it had Lucas would've kept Star Wars and not sold out to Disney...
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Maybe if it had Lucas would've kept Star Wars and not sold out to Disney...
I keep forgetting that the younger kids of latter generations actually enjoyed the prequels. I prefer to pretend there are just 3 Star Wars movies, and some awful fan-fiction that shouldn't be watched.
Also, there is only one Matrix movie.
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Sure they liked them as kids but I imagine it was in much the way I enjoyed a lot of shitty movies when I was a child. Take The Monster Squad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] . I loved this movie as a kid, I mean it firmly established that Wolfman both has nards and that he can be kicked in them.
Watching it as an adult though? It's a pretty bad movie.
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Maybe if it had Lucas would've kept Star Wars and not sold out to Disney...
So Star Wars would have stayed with the person who butchered the original trilogy with a remaster featuring terrible CGI and character redefining (for the worse) film changes? The same guy who apparently destroyed the negatives to do this and refused to produce what everyone wanted which is just an upscaled version of the original? The same guy who hasnt made a decent movie since the 80's?
Yeah, my childhood favorite was fucked either way.
Is this really new or just shown to the public? (Score:2)
How many movies never hit the screen, because they were canceled? I am willing to bet a whole lot of them, and they were being canceled for as long as we have had movies.
Why? Because movie making is an Art, and a Business.
Art is subjective and prone to have its popularity change on a quick whim. If it isn't going to be popular than it will be a bad business decision to continue it.
Many early Science Fiction Movies (Pre WWII) were very apocalyptic showing the dangers of capitalism and industrialization.
After
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Re: And stuff cancelled too soon (Almost Human) (Score:3)
Re: And stuff cancelled too soon (Almost Human) (Score:2)
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My favorite too-short series is Lodge 49 [wikipedia.org]. The actor from Almost Human co-stars in it, as indicated by this amusing trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]