Marvel Boss Doesn't Think Audiences Will Ever Get Tired of Superhero Movies (variety.com) 226
Will moviegoers ever get superhero fatigue? Marvel boss Kevin Feige doesn't buy it, saying on a new podcast interview that there are 80 years of "groundbreaking" stories told in the Marvel comics that they can adapt into "different genres." From a report: "I've been at Marvel Studios for over 22 years, and most of us here at Marvel Studios have been around a decade or longer together," Feige said on "The Movie Business Podcast," hosted by Jason E. Squire, an author and professor at the USC School of Cinematic Arts. "From probably my second year at Marvel, people were asking, 'Well, how long is this going to last? Is this fad of comic book movies going to end?'"
Feige continued, "I didn't really understand the question. Because to me, it was akin to saying after 'Gone With the Wind,' 'Well, how many more movies can be made off of novels? Do you think the audience will sour on movies being adapted from books?' You would never ask that because there's an inherent understanding among most people that a book can be anything. A novel can have any type of story whatsoever. So it all depends on what story you're translating. Non-comic readers don't understand that it's the same thing in comics." Referencing the rich catalog of Marvel comics, which date back to 1939, Feige said there are countless stories for the studio to adapt in various genres.
Feige continued, "I didn't really understand the question. Because to me, it was akin to saying after 'Gone With the Wind,' 'Well, how many more movies can be made off of novels? Do you think the audience will sour on movies being adapted from books?' You would never ask that because there's an inherent understanding among most people that a book can be anything. A novel can have any type of story whatsoever. So it all depends on what story you're translating. Non-comic readers don't understand that it's the same thing in comics." Referencing the rich catalog of Marvel comics, which date back to 1939, Feige said there are countless stories for the studio to adapt in various genres.
I've been tired of them for seval years (Score:5, Insightful)
But then, I'm a small minority.
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I'm right there with you, pal. I made an exception for Guardians of the Galaxy because I had never heard of them before the first movie came out, and it was different enough that I could probably stomach one more. Likewise I watched WandaVision because it was a unique premise and I had never heard of the characters before.
Those three are literally the only superhero shows I've seen in at least 10 years. No mas, por favor!
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Those three are literally the only superhero shows I've seen in at least 10 years.
Q1: The ones that you liked or the only ones that you saw? How would you know that you'd hate all the other superhero movies if you haven't actually seen them?
Q2: Which was the third?
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Q1: The ones that you liked or the only ones that you saw? How would you know that you'd hate all the other superhero movies if you haven't actually seen them?
Not the OP. I've seen maybe 4-5 superhero movies, probably starting with the Raimi Spiderman, Iron Man, Thor, Guardians and maybe Deadpool? I don't hate any of them and don't think I would the other. They're all well made. But they're all pretty formulaic and leave me uninvested and empty at the end. A few months later I couldn't tell what any of them were about because it really didn't matter.
There are great movies I've only seen once (because I tend to rarely re-watch anything) but can still remember almo
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Wow. You didn't watch/like The Dark Knight.
How can Iron Man be "formulaic", when it was the first (of the Marvel era/universe)? (The reason why I liked it was that I was a huge comic nerd as a child, and really appreciated how they captured cultural ethos/propaganda of that era, by being "faithful" to the comic book origin story.) As far as I'm concerned, Guardians and Deadpool are original stories and sublime cinematic depictions in their own right.
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Smart guy gets into bad situation. McGyer's an improbable solution to escape. Bad guy comes after him. Big showdown in public (after all, why not just go after they guy when he's asleep? The bad guy must come at the hero in the middle of the day and in full view of the public. It's the law). Between these events guy meets highly attractive woman who immediately has feelings for him and will do whatever it takes to protect him. Good guy wins by saving woman. Fatal fla
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Don't forget: Bad guy is is a more powerful, more dangerous version of whatever the hero is.
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I must've seen the Dark Knight. But I've literally no idea what it was about, it's the one where the bus flips over and Batman talks in a very gravely voice?
Iron Man was probably not formulaic but I'd say it's the one that set up the CGI-heavy action-comedy formula with smartass quips and ever-escalating stakes of the final boss fights.
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It sounds like what you are really saying is that you are a drama junkie.
For me it is the opposite. I can't even begin to comprehend why people watch movies and read books about everyday drama when drama is all around us in the real world. I go to a movie to see something more interesting than life or if it is from life was some aspect of it that isn't going to happen all the time to people around you. What could be more formularic than the typical struggles of life? Example, "Catch Me If You Can" or "Shaws
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It sounds like what you are really saying is that you are a drama junkie.
Not really? I like all sorts of stuff, action, sci-fi, horror. Sure, "Catch Me If You Can" or "Shawshank Redemption" are great too.
The comic movies just tend to miss the elements I want to see in a move. Action is great but if there are no stakes and it's all CGI that kind of sucks. Jackie Chan actually fighting 6 guys with a ladder? Great. John Wick wants to avenge his puppy? Makes sense. CGI Ant-Man needs to stop Bad Guy #458 from DESTROYING THE UNIVERSE? The action is just not satisfying and the stakes d
Re:I've been tired of them for seval years (Score:4, Insightful)
WandaVision, I thought was the best thing ever. Incredibly imaginative. I thought: Now we are talking, finally a very clever masterpiece ... couldn't wait for the next episode .... It was like watching Tron for the first time.
And then the bad news. The series was tied up with some Marvel Universe backstory whatever. And the whole thing started becoming boring and infantile .... and I started hating it.
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WandaVision, I thought was the best thing ever. Incredibly imaginative. I thought: Now we are talking, finally a very clever masterpiece ... couldn't wait for the next episode .... It was like watching Tron for the first time.
And then the bad news. The series was tied up with some Marvel Universe backstory whatever. And the whole thing started becoming boring and infantile .... and I started hating it.
I got more bad news for you, the only reason WandaVision existed is because audiences knew it would be heavily tied into a Marvel Universe backstory.
A drama that spends its first few episodes masquerading as a series of not particularly funny sitcoms? That's something you can only do if you have a dedicated audience willing to tune in and stick it out because they know the superhero stuff is coming.
Now, I think that Feige is actually right, that superhero movies won't go out of style because they've always
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Same - When they kicked things off as far as the world beyond X-Men with "Iron Man" way back in what was that like 2k8?
It was fun to see a new generation's take on some of these characters. Yes I realize they did a few other properties like F4 and Spiderman first but those really were still discovering the formula.
However as you say buy the time they got to Avengers I was pretty well and truly tired of it. I have seen THAT movie enough now.
I think Marvel is right super heroes will never get old, we have be
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Well, I don't know how this is even news, or why anyone bothered to pay attention.
"CEO of company says people will always love company's products." Yeah, no shit. CEOs who publicly say, "People really are tired of our product, we should do something else." don't stay CEO very long.
Re: I've been tired of them for seval years (Score:3)
No you're not a small minority. Marvel movies are like Nickleback, everyone hates them but they keep making more.
Target Market Clearly Isn't Bored (Score:2)
While you may be bored of these movies, the target market for superhero movies clearly isn't bored yet. So since this genre has been going strong for over 20 years, and has really hit it's stride in the last 15 years with the MCU, the most important question is what will change this trend?
Kevin Feige is claiming it won't be an end of interesting stories to tell, considering there are 80 years of comic book stories to tell. And we have already seen more than one telling of certain stories, like the Phoenix S
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But the comic books, all 80 years of them, are repetitive. They were intended for kids for the most part, at least after the comics code. The stories were simplistic, a Deus Ex Machina in every issue! Marvel mixed it up slightly by having superheros with foibles and real live problems (Spiderman has to go to school, etc). Even then it got old fast, Spiderman was serialized in the comics page of newspapers where nothing new ever happened...
Why do people get all misty eyed over the greats like Watchmen, D
Years? (Score:2)
Try two decades at this point.
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I think there should be a law that at least 20 years must pass between movie reboots and remakes. This stuff seems to be accelerating. I expect that soon now they'll start a Spiderman reboot before the previous Spiderman movie gets to theaters.
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Then you are in good company. I have a number of friends that are tired of comic book movies. Personally, after Endgame I stopped giving a shit. It was like some one just flipped a switch.
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I'm the same. I'm not so sure that you are part of a "small" minority, I'd guess it's a larger group than you realize. It's pretty common to feel that way, and that's why the usage of the popular term "cape-shit" to describe all the superhero stuff. Lots of people are tired of cape-shit.
At first it was cool, seeing comic books brought to live-action in a way that hadn't happened before, all vicarious excitement with computer graphics and FX gone crazy. But it wore quickly, as many of us realized that while
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This isn't just about MCU nonsense. Hollywood in general has gotten boring and formulaic. TV as well.
Re: I've been tired of them for seval years (Score:2)
Thoroughly exhausted not just with the Marvel movies, but with most CGI-fests in general (I'll make an exception for "Everything Everywhere...", which had really interesting ideas, and a heart).
Just tagged along with the fam for Avatar 2, and yeah, it was OK, but I want, and audiences deserve better than OK movies.
Certainly CGI is going nowhere, but in the "more, bigger, brighter rendered stuff" tendency, they're falling into the same toilet bowl as the horror genre did for a while where eventually you were
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Probably not, but as long as they get as least as many people in (teens) as they get people out (bored adults), they are fine.
Individuals may get tired, but the audience as a whole may not be.
It is like saying that people will get tired of coming of age stories. Sure, most people do as they grow older, but as a whole, these stories have been popular for all of recorded history and it continues today. In fact, Spider-Man is just that.
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"But then, I'm a small minority."
I prefer real movies as well, from the get-go.
Flying people hitting each other with houses is just stupid to me.
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Same here. If the movies were standalone it might be better, but as they are they are very long soap operas. But that's what comics are. I didn't know many who kept up with comics growing up, it was very expensive to get all the issues. Story lines rarely ended, and reboots or parallel universes were recurring.
Also, I can't see these movies anyway, they're all locked down for streaming by Disney. And I missed so many that I can't watch the latest ones because I'll be confused (soap operas, remember).
Re: I've been tired of them for seval years (Score:3)
What's wrong with Single Jewish Women?
No one ever went broke (Score:4, Interesting)
... underestimating the intelligence of the public.
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I doubt intelligence is a great predictor of someone liking superhero movies. In my extended family of about 15 people it is definitely the smarter ones (from a standardized test measure of intelligence) who like these movies the most. Nerds have been the more rabid fans of comic stories over the years, and as a group I'd say they have an above average intelligence.
If anything, I'd say the smarter you are the more likely you are to like superhero movies. At least slightly. That trend may not hold into geniu
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I think the poster is implying some version of, "The general public thinks louder must mean better." At least that's me putting words in somebody else's mouth. And I actually agree with that assessment. It's not a character failing of the last two generations - it's a symptom. They've grown into what they've been spoonfed. Short attention spans are a result of the inputs, and those in the positions of power - often folks with considerable grey hair - are shoveling coal into that fire as fast as they can. An
Can't stand them (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Can't stand them (Score:4, Insightful)
Pretty much. Idiot Hollywood movie producers felt "the western" would never die. That was followed by "action movies" (Does anyone remember "The Towering Inferno" or "The Poseidon Adventure"?)
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There have been ups and downs in the franchise, but there are a lot of decent Marvel movies. Maybe not your cup of tea, but for most people they are enjoyable. Some rank amongst the most profitable movies ever made.
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It would be naïve to think superhero movies could never go out of style, but the arguments used by Feige don't seem very naive to me. I don't see the fantasy action genre going away any time soon either. And superhero movies can be political thrillers, comedies, heist films, period films, horror, and many other genres.
Superhero movies are just modern mythology, and supernatural storytelling has being going strong for thousands of years.
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I used to love them ... a long, long, long time ago. ... awesome.
The first X-Men movie in 2000 was great.
The Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies
Even the first Marvel Studio movies: the first Iron Man and Captain America were fantastic.
It all started getting boring to me around the first Avengers movie. I think that's when plans to do the whole "MCU" thing started getting underway,. At that point the movies became less about the development and study of individual characters and began more about team mashups and wha
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This is a very naive way of thinking.
It's really not. A large portion of cinema goers have always gone for the fun of going to a cinema with friends and nothing more. The actual content is secondary for many, and even among those it's not, they aren't all necessarily interested in cinematic masterpieces. And that's before we consider a generationally sized audience that grew up with comic books.
Your point would be more valid if it were not for the fact that it's been said about literally every Marvel move for the past decade. Yet here we are,
I got tired by Superman III (Score:3, Insightful)
I got tired of superhero movies by Superman III.
I did watch a few of the more recent, pre-woke Marvel fare like Thor, Capt America and Iron Man, but those were sent to me as gifts. Much eye candy. Little substance.
I've honestly lost all interest in superheros. Amazing how that well of inspiration has dried up for me.
I find much better fare coming from japan. I'm not getting *any* inspiration or even escapism with any post-2015 american cartoons.
Good job breaking it, Hollyweird. Firing Lassater was the singular worst decision Disney made so far. That man made PIxar, and he had transformed Disney Animation into a powerhouse.. and starting with Ralph Breaks the Internet they pissed it down the drain. Congrats!
#BringBackLassater
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Japan produces some absolutely amazing stuff. But you'll also never find a worse signal-to-noise ratio anywhere. The absolute mountain of undifferentiated shit pouring out of that country is staggering. For every "Ghost in the Shell" there are ten thousand hours of utter content sadness.
Re: I got tired by Superman III (Score:2)
What percentage of Japanese content is an angry stare from a petulant "hero" with wild hair? 15%? 20%?
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Most of the Thor movies have sucked. But Thor Ragnarok hit the sweet spot of silliness.
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Specifically how did "wokeness" ruin such films?
By changing characters to suit a new sensibility. (Ghostbusters 2016, for example)
By changing storylines to suit a new sensibility. (any of the new Batmans or Supermans)
By being lazy and not writing their own original stories. (All of them)
I"m waiting for Star Wars XXIV, A New New Hope, with a Black Luke, a lesbian Leia, a trans Tarkin, and instead of Alderaan getting blown to bits, it is bathed in racial reprogramming masquerading as news 24/7.
I simply don't buy it. The writers can do whatever they wa
Re: I got tired by Superman III (Score:4, Interesting)
Neither Ghostbusters, nor Superman, nor Batman are Marvel movies.
So, what's that about Marvel wokeness?
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Try the woke ones. You might find more substance.
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Try the woke ones. You might find more substance.
No! That might challenge my assumptions about the world too much. Must fight the woke mind virus!
My only complaint on wokeness... (Score:2)
When it's so pointless to the plot that I am pulled out of the experience to think, "That's just pandering." Example: "Outer Range" on Amazon Prime. I have no idea why an indigenous lesbian sherriff was needed, other than to check a weirdly wide box.,
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Shall I make a list of movie sherriffs whose sexual preferences are left unknown?
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I'm going to address this point twice. I have no idea if the highway patrolman who took a nailed beam to the head in "Tucker and Dale Vs.Evil" was hetero or not. Since it didn't matter one iota to the plot or the joke, it wasn't addressed. If you make the assumption that every character who's sexuality isn't described must be straight, that's a you problem.
You and Dumbledore can chat about that.
It's the CEO... (Score:4, Insightful)
This is what CEO's are supposed to say.
Business as usual (Score:4, Insightful)
Translation: You'll like what we tell you to like! (Score:3)
It's not what audiences are choosing to see. It's just these absurd monopolies won't allow anything else.
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You have 22 movies in your city that aren't related to comic books. Good for you. It
"Audiences" (Score:2)
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"Audiences" -- meaning the poor suckers who pay for this as part of their Disney+ subscription because they have no choice.
I didn't realize Disney+ subscriptions were mandated by law these days.
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Continuing (Score:5, Funny)
Feige continued, "I didn't really understand the question. Because to me, this is my meal ticket. We're going to keep pushing this slop down your throat, and you're going to love it, because it's all we're serving. You don't know any better. You would never ask, 'Why do novels always recycle the same pool of 15 characters?' A book can be about anything. We just choose to make ours all the same."
Groundbreaking? (Score:2)
Marvel boss Kevin Feige doesn't buy it, saying on a new podcast interview that there are 80 years of "groundbreaking" stories told in the Marvel comics that they can adapt into "different genres."
They were groundbreaking when they were new ideas. Now they're old hat and all Marvel movies are battle royale wankfests. That doesn't mean people won't go see them, but they are old ideas and not new ones.
Audiences will never tire of "Westerns" (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry, most people I know are already sick of superhero flicks.
I think they'll go away eventually, just like Westerns.
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But they do still make Westerns ranging from terrible to awesome and everywhere in between.
And the same for zombies, vampires, rom-coms and (repeat subgenres ad infinitum).
And all of them have people that swear up and down that they're tired of them and "everyone they know" is as well, yet they still get made and make scads of money.
In the end, Hollywood releases literally hundreds of movies every year and at most a few are Marvel Superhero movies so obviously the notion that Marvel movies is the only thing
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The problem is where does Hollywood go from here. There have always been specticles at the theater, but now the a
I'm exhausted (Score:5, Insightful)
I have (if I remember right) an Avengers in UHD movie still in the plastic somewhere. I'm not sure I've watched a whole one since "Guardians of the Galaxy" and "Deadpool". They've completely killed my desire to see another super hero movie ever. Ever ever. I could go the rest of my life not seeing them and be perfectly happy.
Ditto for Star Wars. I'm just old enough to have seen the movies in the theatre and remember it. They were a part of my childhood. Now... dead air, baby. No interest at all. Could not care less.
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There are some fabulous children's movies. I enjoy them a great deal.
Current MCU has problems (Score:2)
The current MCU has a problem: The characters aren't sticking around. Yes, they're handing off the superhero titles to new people, as shown with Black Widow, Hawkeye, and Captain America, and I'm expecting soon with Iron Man, but that's not an easy transition for the audiences.
Another problem is that many people are going to skip MCU movies if they're not caught up, thinking they need the background for it to make sense. And to some extent that's true. And with so many movies and now streaming series, on
The problem is the Marvel universe. (Score:2)
All these movies are the same, big budget but very poor stories. They are just making a new spiderman every 5-10 years. And when they chose to make something different, instead of spiderman they do antman.
They also confusingly released Man of Steel and IronMan at the same time. They have a complete lack of imagination.
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Well my post applies to both DC and Marvel then, they both suck and make the same movies again and again. There is none I enjoyed since I was a teenager.
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>> They are just making a new spiderman every 5-10 years
Sony owns the rights to Spiderman and his associated villians etc from 80s Marvel selling rights to stay afloat. Sony has to keep doing movies with Spidey to hold the rights so you get repeated reboots. The last couple of movies w/ Tom Holland were done as a joint deal w/ Marvel to loop the character into the larger MCU. The "side movies" like Venom and that crap Morbius movie they tried show they may be better off making Disney/Marvel an offe
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Audiences won't tire? (Score:2)
I can say my wife was done with the Marvel movies a while ago, though she's a fan of the superhero movie genre in general. I think the dominance of one player has ruined a potential good thing. Superheroes are fun, and some of them have some interesting dark quirks. Marvel spitting out milquetoast shiny with zero underlying substance is boring. DC's films have been either a disgusting mess, or a darkfest that forgets there's actually a little bit of silliness at the base of the whole concept and it's OK to
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I can say my wife was done with the Marvel movies a while ago, though she's a fan of the superhero movie genre in general.
Considering half of the top grossing movies of 2022 were superhero movies, your wife clearly isn't indicative of the target market for these movies if she tired of them a while ago. The other half of movies were also sequels or part of a franchise, so audiences clearly aren't clamoring for something new.
People said the same things about the Zombie fad (Score:2)
That one really felt like it would never die (*rimshot*), but it seems to have finally begun its downslope - thankfully.
They can keep churning out super hero movies as long as they want. It ain't Deadpool 3, and if it ain't Deadpool 3, I don't give a rats ass.
It's not like there are a whole lot of non-super hero movies coming out that are worth two hours of my life, either.
Poor CGI, costumes, stories, etc. (Score:2)
I think I remember the first Hulk or FF, and it was bad... I never saw any MCU movies in theaters. I saw here and there on TV some part of movies, but wow some of the CGI are really bad... and some actors have no credibility, it's just Men in Tights. There's also no story, we know good people win.
I have read comics in the 80s/90s etc but as an adult I realize it's for kids...
"Poor CGI". (Score:2)
A good movie will survive low budgets and poor CGI. A strong story trumps that every time.
Re: Poor CGI, costumes, stories, etc. (Score:2)
F4 is different Fox owned the rights to that. Marvel owns them now but they haven't made a movie yet.
I wouldn't say I'm tired of them... (Score:2)
but I'm not thrilled by them either. I don't rush out to see them on the theater like I did Infinity War 2, or subscribe to Disney+ just to see them. I just saw the new Thor a few weeks ago, I think on Vudu? Haven't seen the Black Panther yet, but I will. So as a fan I am in their profit model, but way down in their profit model.
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Barnum (Score:2)
There's a sucker born every day.
Sounds familiar (Score:3)
Familiar like White Star Lines VP saying the Titanic is unsinkable.
He's wrong about so much (Score:2)
Sure comic books can tell lots of different stories. But that's not what's happening. We're getting superhero stories. That's a very specific type of story. And they've already run out of superheros, ironically, with all the upcoming movies being sequels to existing ones. And not just in the same world, but with the same lead character. Even when they introduce "new" heroes, they're just palette swapped versions most of the time.
They've certainly had a good run. So did the Western.
Same sh... different day. (Score:2)
There is only a handful of story archetypes out there. In fact, there's only 7 of them: rags to riches, the quest, overcoming the monster, voyage and return, tragedy, comedy, rebirth. Watch enough films and you will start seeing the same patterns everywhere. You'll know exactly what's going to happen in the film by just watchin the trailer.
With the superhero genre it gets even worse. Instead of following one of X story archetypes it's always the same one - save the world. It gets boring very flippin' quickl
"It's not gonna happen until it does!" (Score:2)
Of course he doesn't (Score:2)
That's what they thought of westerns (Score:2)
It works now, so it will keep working in the future. Std. upper management thought.
"Marvel Boss" should find a new line of work (Score:3)
If you're this out of touch with your customers to make statements like "I didnâ(TM)t really understand the question" what value can you have to your employer?
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I didn't really understand the question. Because to me, it was akin to saying after 'Gone With the Wind,' 'Well, how many more movies can be made off of novels? Do you think the audience will sour on movies being adapted from books?'
Did he essentially just compare "Gone With the Wind" to "Thor: Love and Thunder?" Where does Disney find these people?
Keep them fun (Score:2)
Uh oh (Score:2)
It's only a very small step from "they'll never get tired of this" to "they'll swallow any tripe we put in front of them" to "just throw some cheap garbage together and milk the franchise some more".
In other words, I give it about 5 more years. Not because people get tired of superhero movies, but because people tire very easily of crappy movies.
Cowboy movies and Westerns (Score:2)
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana
“It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes.” Theodor Reik
"Todo tiene su final
nada dura para siempre
tenemos que recordar
que no existe eternidad "Willie Colon
For many DECADES, Westerns and Cowboy movies and TV series were the dominant franchises, even more dominant (by a long margin) than SuperHero fare is today, and yet, those also came to an end, w
Really? (Score:2)
I'm not following box office numbers but I was under the impression that the recent crop of Marvel movies didn't exactly set the world alight either critically or audience reaction. And it wasn't due to COVID either. More likely it is because there is Marvel fatigue - the sense that movies are being churned out with no clear purpose or arc, and are even becoming ridiculously woke and boring. Same for the Marvel TV shows of which a few were quite good but most are just poor or abysmal.
Sci-Fi for the dumb masses (Score:2)
Superhero movies are the sci-fi for the dumb masses. You can tell any story with a Superhero and tell is simply with a lot of visuals and most basic dialog.
So yeah, I think we're going to have Superhero movies for ever, and possibly the only type of movies.
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The Daredevil TV series actually captured the feeling of those comics; though I have to admit, I read them aft
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Re: The MCU is limited to a specific period of Mar (Score:2)
Miles (Spiderman) isn't canon gay in any materials. He has had girlfriends though.
And Riri (Ironheart) is like literally hundreds of characters introduced over decades which are demographic busters. They almost never replace the old character for long. It's a marketing pull.
The only thing getting "woke" is Hollywood bean counters looking for a new angle to keep profitable. In previous years, Hollywood would never think to make a black Captain America, but Marvel introduced him in 1969.
Re: A good story is a good story (Score:2)