Marvel Wants Reddit To Expose Mods Suspected of Ant-Man 3 Leak (gizmodo.com) 35
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TorrentFreak: In January, a month before Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was released in theaters, a link to a leaked script was posted on the Marvel Studios Spoilers subreddit. Last Friday, a Marvel Studios affiliate filed DMCA subpoena applications to compel Reddit and Google to expose the leakers. One named user account is shared among the subreddit's moderator team. Court documents indicate the plan is to force Reddit to expose them all. [...]
When information about the script/subtitle file was posted on Reddit mid-January, leak-loving Marvel fans were both excited and impressed. "Yeah this is some next level leak" and "This legit might be the biggest leak in this subs history" set the tone, but the fun didn't last. A moderator of the subreddit commented that since the information was receiving copyright notices, any "future sharing of the material will result in a ban." The thread is still live today and there's no doubt that Marvel is aware of it.
The DMCA subpoena application specifically mentions the thread alongside an email from Reddit's legal team, which had previously agreed to take the infringing content down. In common with the takedown notice sent to Google, the allegedly infringing content may have been deleted before Reddit could remove it. There's no mention of a copyright complaint, instead the post notes, "Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it." At this point concern shifts to the rest of the thread, which talks about the document hosted by Google and how the mod team "took the google doc down" to ensure that existing links to the file would no longer lead to it. As a result, Marvel now wants Reddit to hand over "All Identifying Information for the user 'u/MSSmods'," which throws another unpredictable element into the mix. The DMCA subpoena applications can be found here (G1/G2, R1/R2)
When information about the script/subtitle file was posted on Reddit mid-January, leak-loving Marvel fans were both excited and impressed. "Yeah this is some next level leak" and "This legit might be the biggest leak in this subs history" set the tone, but the fun didn't last. A moderator of the subreddit commented that since the information was receiving copyright notices, any "future sharing of the material will result in a ban." The thread is still live today and there's no doubt that Marvel is aware of it.
The DMCA subpoena application specifically mentions the thread alongside an email from Reddit's legal team, which had previously agreed to take the infringing content down. In common with the takedown notice sent to Google, the allegedly infringing content may have been deleted before Reddit could remove it. There's no mention of a copyright complaint, instead the post notes, "Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it." At this point concern shifts to the rest of the thread, which talks about the document hosted by Google and how the mod team "took the google doc down" to ensure that existing links to the file would no longer lead to it. As a result, Marvel now wants Reddit to hand over "All Identifying Information for the user 'u/MSSmods'," which throws another unpredictable element into the mix. The DMCA subpoena applications can be found here (G1/G2, R1/R2)
I'm sure they do. (Score:1)
Bad idea (Score:1)
Why would they want to alienate the only people who want to watch their shitty sequels?
Re: Bad idea (Score:2)
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It's the Metallica approach to fans with an internet connection. Worked wonders for them. Why wouldn't the house of mouse want to follow the same track?
Do they really need scripts still? (Score:1, Informative)
Anyone older than five could predict a Marvel script with a high degree of accuracy. Lots of magic, things go boom, the hero wins, bad guy loses, the end.
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No, I want interesting scripts. But thanks for the "woke" self-report.
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This kind of language is reflective of the cultural revolution in China, when Mao was consolidating power. That era of Chinese history piled evil upon evil in its destruction of culture, family, and love of one's fellow man. Children turned in their parents to be tortured. Original thought was severely punished. There were self-reporting sessions wherein people were expected to publicly repent of counterrevolutionary thoughts. These self-reports were used as a thin excuse to murder whomever
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They could try focusing on character development.
The MCU has this amazing and unique ability to build characters over several movies; they should utilize that. Give me interesting and flawed "good guys", or better; give me interesting "bad guys" ( and stop killing off the interesting ones! ).
Let's take Ant Man, or rather Scott Lang; anyone could wear and train in the suit. You could recruit people better at fighting, more physically fit, to wear it, so why is Scott the best choice? 3 movies, they never r
Re: Do they really need scripts still? (Score:2)
Your inner 5 year old wrote this comment.
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Also needs some kind of light beam portal thing that reaches into space that a swarms of alien enemies fly out of.
You know a movie is terrible. (Score:3)
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Yeah, _that's_ what they're afraid of...
Screw Reddit (Score:1)
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Like all social media, if you stick around too long you notice the people in charge shouldn't be, and the people most dedicated to posting are the shitposters.
Eventually they win because they're inexhaustible and the site owners are on their side (so far as the law allows) because anger is one of the easiest ways to keep people engaged, and allowing people to abuse shitty moderation and not paying for the staffing to have a proper appeals process is easier.
Drop in if you find something you like until it's n
Venn diagram (Score:5, Interesting)
I doubt there's much intersecting between people who watch big budget comic superhero action flicks, have the patience to read a script, and skip a trip to the cinema because the ending was spoiled. Hell, Titanic was one of the largest grossing movies of all time and everyone knew how that ends.
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And don't forget, an Academy member's copy of Titanic (sent to those who could vote for the Oscars) got out into the wild before the official VHS was released. The Academy and studio was furious. Supposedly the next year all copies sent out had a digital serial number. So if pirated copies were found they'd know exactly whose copy it came from.
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Yes, before there was a "web"
Re:Venn diagram (Score:4, Interesting)
They're tried a bunch of tricks. e.g. watermarking content as "for your consideration". At one point they even gave out screener DVDs that required specialised players. They might have dabbled with barcodes or other uniquely identifying forensic markers in the content but these could be blurred out.
I expect these days it's a digital download and each download is watermarked in both the audio / video so it is virtually impossible to hide who leaked it. But then again it hardly matters because movies go from theaters to digital download so quickly that pirates would rarely have cause to need a screener.
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and skip a trip to the cinema because the ending was spoiled.
No one reads a script. What happens is some arsehole trolls the world by reading the script, summarising the spoilers and putting them all over the internet and the result is spoiled even by people who didn't want it.
This is one of the reasons I don't watch movie trailers. The number of f-ing morons in Hollywood who spoil their own movie right in the trailers is ridiculous.
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Yeah, but this is the MCU. They made changes where it made sense for the format, of course. But the majority of the plot lines came from Ultimate or Earth-616 stories that are years... sometimes decades... old. You didn't see the Tolkien estate get all pissy when the trailer for The Two Towers "spoiled" Gandalf coming back to life, did you? Leaked scripts are the same thing as a trailer. You can't "spoil" a plot line with a script or trailer when the source materiel spilled the beans before the movie eve
Spoilers. (Score:2)
and the result is spoiled even by people who didn't want it.
If knowing some plot twists removes the only reason one can enjoy a movie, then it's a pretty shitty movie.
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If knowing some plot twists removes the only reason one can enjoy a movie, then it's a pretty shitty movie.
Actually if a plot twist is that compelling it is often the result of a truly well written movie. The 6th Sense would be a load of shit if you found out in the first scene that Bruce Willis is dead, to say nothing of basically entire mystery genre or murder genre.
Yeah sure that doesn't apply to superhero films anywhere near as much but there are plenty of films where the story makes you truly go WTF when you already know the plot twist its building up to. I do wonder if Terminator Genesis would have been sl
Spoilers == shitty movie (Score:2)
Actually if a plot twist is that compelling it is often the result of a truly well written movie. The 6th Sense would be a load of shit if you found out in the first scene that Bruce Willis is dead,
Thank you for illustrating that this movie has absolutely no other quality to offer except for it's single trick.
If a spoiler ruins a movie, i.e. if a movie doesn't have anything else interesting except a single plot twist.
Then. It. IS. A. SHITTY. MOVIE.
to say nothing of basically entire mystery genre or murder genre.
There's a whole subgenre called Inverted detective story [wikipedia.org] (a.ka. "howcatchem").
Showing to the audience who is the criminal hasn't made Columbo [wikipedia.org] unwatchable.
Really good writing relies on telling the audience only what they need to know at precisely the time they need to know it.
Nope. Really good writing should be able to stand on its merits. Witty dialogues, great characters, tens
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I doubt there's much intersecting between people who watch big budget comic superhero action flicks, have the patience to read a script, and skip a trip to the cinema because the ending was spoiled. Hell, Titanic was one of the largest grossing movies of all time and everyone knew how that ends.
Hopefully the MPAA will follow the Titanic's lead.
Do they want to pay them compensation? (Score:3)
I assume this is part of a community outreach programme to help anyone exposed to the shit that was Ant-Man 3 - the Quasiplotiverse.
Expose, really? (Score:2)
Except the IP address, does Reddit have any reliable information about a user?
Is news of the leak supportive of the leakers? (Score:2)
Asking for a friend who would if not having read this story never dreamed of looking to read a leaked script for Ant-Man 3. I'm not saying to arrest people reporting on this story, but maybe we should kick over some ant-hills (ha!) and see what goes scurrying. Daylight raids by the FBI all armed up, with CNN in tow, and the NSA going to town on their communications might expose something or another.
If the Julian Assange case taught us anything it's that journalists are a shady lot, and the public is OK with
Suing leakers (Score:4, Informative)