Three Men Battle the FBI Over Buried Civil War Gold 130
Treasure hunters are aiming to prove there were tons of loot in the ground in Pennsylvania -- and that the government took it. WSJ: Dennis Parada points to a weedy spot where he believes the Federal Bureau of Investigation dug up nine tons of Civil War-era gold, worth more than $500 million, and made off with it in the middle of the night. The patch of ground halfway up a mountain in western Pennsylvania lies at the heart of the treasure hunter's quest to recover the trove and prove it was snatched from under his nose. The matter is now playing out in federal court.
At 70, he has been chasing the Dents Run gold for more than 40 years. "It's definitely a major coverup," says Parada, who has the mustache of a 19th-century gambler and smokes his cigarettes down to a stub. Tales of lost Civil War-era gold have stirred imaginations for generations though few fortunes have been made. One exception was a pile of more than 700 gold coins minted in the mid-1800s that a farmer unearthed in a Kentucky cornfield earlier this year.
In April 1865, Confederate President Jefferson Davis fled Richmond, Va., with gold that would be worth millions today. Union troops later seized a large portion in Georgia, but that was then stolen at gunpoint. Other stories of lost Confederate gold abound in the South. People across the U.S. have hunted for lost rebel treasure in Virginia, Georgia, Arkansas, Missouri -- and the bottom of Lake Michigan. The searches have inspired novels and films, including "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly," starring Clint Eastwood. Far less attention has been paid to tales of Union gold.
At 70, he has been chasing the Dents Run gold for more than 40 years. "It's definitely a major coverup," says Parada, who has the mustache of a 19th-century gambler and smokes his cigarettes down to a stub. Tales of lost Civil War-era gold have stirred imaginations for generations though few fortunes have been made. One exception was a pile of more than 700 gold coins minted in the mid-1800s that a farmer unearthed in a Kentucky cornfield earlier this year.
In April 1865, Confederate President Jefferson Davis fled Richmond, Va., with gold that would be worth millions today. Union troops later seized a large portion in Georgia, but that was then stolen at gunpoint. Other stories of lost Confederate gold abound in the South. People across the U.S. have hunted for lost rebel treasure in Virginia, Georgia, Arkansas, Missouri -- and the bottom of Lake Michigan. The searches have inspired novels and films, including "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly," starring Clint Eastwood. Far less attention has been paid to tales of Union gold.
Prognostication (Score:2, Troll)
>At 70, he has been chasing the Dents Run gold for more than 40 years.
The government will tie him up in courts, wait for him to die, then dismiss any lawsuit from his estate over lack of grounding or some shit.
Re:Prognostication (Score:5, Insightful)
TFA is paywalled, but TFS mentions no evidence that there was ever any gold on his land.
If he couldn't find any gold in 40 years, then how could the FBI find it in one day?
Occam's Razor says he's just a crazy old coot.
Re:Prognostication (Score:5, Funny)
But just to be nice, I'll settle for a small fraction of what's mine, let's say $20M.
Re:Prognostication (Score:4, Funny)
Don't you see? Only the government could execute a perfect coverup.
The same government that can't do anything right and therefore should be abolished? That is quite a continuum of abilities.
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Oh, absolutely. For absolutely everything except the hundreds of conspiracies they run, the government is a bumbling, muddled, hidebound, and inefficient bureaucratic mess. However when it comes to running conspiracies it's a super-competent all-powerful evil entity that can make absolutely anything happen overnight.
If only they used this vast power to do things like fix roads, or improve healthcare, or education...
Re:Prognostication (Score:5, Informative)
Does it explain why the FBI dug a big fuckoff hole in his land?
It's not contested that they did, by the way: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/f... [cbsnews.com]
And the FBI would use ground-penetrating radar to look for a cache of metal. It's not contested that the FBI and the owners surveyed tons of land, found something worth investigating (a "7- to 9-ton mass") and dug something up during the warrant they obtained that allowed them to excavate. Currently the argument is over the FBI claiming they didn't find something and the landowner doubting that, and relying on witness testimony and FOIA documents:
>He suspects the agency conducted a clandestine, overnight dig between the first and second days of the court-authorized excavation, found the gold, and spirited it away. Residents have previously told of hearing a backhoe and jackhammer overnight — when the dig was supposed to have been paused — and seeing a convoy of FBI vehicles, including large armored trucks. The FBI has denied it conducted an overnight dig.
Doesn't sound that silly when you actually look into it. And questions like "If he couldn't find any gold in 40 years, then how could the FBI find it in one day?" fall apart with basic knowledge, as you can see it was a prolonged search that he was actually assisting the FBI in accomplishing, which neither side appears to dispute.
Re:Prognostication (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's the thing. Elk County, where Dents Run is located, is near the top of PA and encompasses part of the Allegheny National Forest. No one has explained, as far as I am aware, why a shipment of gold would be in that area if it was going to the Philadelphia Mint. Even the supposed story [visitpago.com] makes little sense. To go from Wheeling, WV, to Dents Run then down to Harrisburg then out to Philadelphia during that time would have taken weeks carrying over a ton of gold when one considerts the state of roads during that time.
Further, to have only 10 men guard that shipment?
There is a whole bunch which doesn't make sense when taken as a whole. Such as, this nutter claims he found a "hit" and rather than dig for himself he calls in the FBI? In your story, it says the geophysical firm brought in determined a 7 - 9 ton mass suggestive of gold. If there were only the 52 bars of gold at 50 pounds each, that's only 2,600 pounds. Where did that extra "mass" come from? If one assumes there was a gold shipment a) shouldn't there be a record in the Union logs of said shipment (one would think this would be something important to record) and b) why would the gold have been buried in one spot? If someone ambushed the delivery, why not give each peron one bar and make off with it?
None of the above indicates the story couldn't have happened, just that there are way too many questions which need to be looked into. Such as, why not let this guy watch the excavation of the site by the FBI? He didn't have to be on top of the diggers, but on site to observe to see if he was correct? Why did, according to locals, the FBI come in the middle of the night and do the dig?
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It wasn't *just* gold. The FBI wouldn't have any reason to dig up gold that's just gold. The government can make all the money it wants. Not to mention, if it was just gold, they'd have dug it up in broad daylight, claimed some bullshit excuse to "investigate it fully before releasing it to the landowner" or something, then take it away in front of everyone. That's what government does when they want something.
What they might be interested in is:
A) Crash site of foreign air vehicles of some type.
B) A larg
Re: Prognostication (Score:3)
"The FBI wouldn't have any reason to dig up gold that's just gold. The government can make all the money it wants"
Yes, but the FBI is theoretically subject to oversight and having to explain where money went. Also nothing prevents the agency from being used for profit by its officers.
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Don't serious up my jokes, man. Yer harshin' my mellow.
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Does it explain why the FBI dug a big fuckoff hole in his land?
It's the third fricken time they've had to re-bury Hunter Biden's laptop at a new location, and frankly they're getting a bit tired of it.
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Shhh, this is slashdot, home of countless paranoid right-wing anti-government conspiracy theorists. Don't bring your "critical thinking" in here.
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"I'm going to write a useless off-topic grievance-filled post that suggests downmodding of useless off-topic grievance-filled posts is part of a political skew, and then dare people to downmod my useless off-topic grievance-filled post; and when they downmod my useless off-topic grievance-filled post, I'll claim it as evidence of political skew!"
Or moderators are doing their job in downmodding useless off-topic grievance-filled horseshit. But po-tay-toe / pa-tah-toe, right?
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I'm surprised anyone cared enough about what you say to mod you down. You are irrelevant here, just like you are irrelevant in real life.
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Free link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/c... [wsj.com]
Re: Prognostication (Score:2)
Read the article archive.ph is your friend
Re:Prognostication (Score:5, Funny)
So these people are conspiracy theorists.
From the article:
"“The FBI insists they found nothing, but they have gone out of their way not to produce any documents that show that they found nothing,” said Anne Weismann, a lawyer for the Paradas. “The thing about this case is stuff just doesn’t add up.”"
THIS. This is the battle cry of the dumbass ignorant conspiracy theorist. I mean, if they had produced documents that showed they found nothing, these guys would say that those documents were made up, and that the government would need to provide documents showing those documents were not made up, ad infuckinitum, ad fuckingnauseaum.
I will bet you, 100%, that they are Trump voters.
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How exactly would they produce documents showing that they found nothing?
Even if they did go there to get some gold, why would they do it in the middle of the night?
Also: Where's the pictures of the hole they left behind? Or did they cover it up perfectly and leave no trace from the excavators?
The guy's a loon.
Re:Prognostication (Score:4, Insightful)
How exactly would they produce documents showing that they found nothing?
Depends on how a company operates. Do the FBI routinely send people to investigate something without paperwork? Do excavations routinely happen without workorders?
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find it impossible to fake a couple of vague documents
Who said anything about fake documents? Follow the conversation. The question was about "produced" documents, and evidence of nothing being found. We can leave the question of whether documents are fake for the next movement of the goalposts.
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If it's known and recognized that the FBI were there, then there should be a mission brief and debriefing somewhere.
If he just thinks there were FBI agents skulking around in the middle of the night when there weren't, then obviously no such documents exist.
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Also, lets back up for a second...
This is the gold stolen by a traitor. Jefferson Davis fled with gold he seized from the state of Virginia, in order to support the defense of a traitorous cause that fought for continuing the perpetual racist bondage of human men, women and children. Fuck him.
And this guy Parada and his cop son formed a business to claim gold they hoped to find like this, named "Finders, Keepers", as though that would allow him to keep the gold that Jefferson Davis stole from the State of
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They have been, yes, as have chicks of many races. That's because I'm not a racist, enslaver-defending cracker. I am white, though.
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They did, have, and will, snowflake.
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It's far more likely that "civil war gold" never existed.
Just occam's razor, the losing side is always the side willing to run off/strip anything valuable from their position to enrich themselves.
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Unless the guy searching for the gold owned the land it was "stolen" from (or has an agreement with whomever's land it was) it would have absolutely no claim of ownership at all even if it found it.
If the gold was stolen originally then the gold is owned by whoever it was stolen from originally (that seems to be the US mint since it was stolen from them in 1863).
But even if it was confederate gold the Union ended up with any and all of their assets (and is the original owner).
Even if the guy had found it fi
Who greenlights this shit? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Who greenlights this shit? (Score:5, Insightful)
Is this Slashdot or Infowars? What does this have to do with anything that anyone would consider relevant to Slashdot's supposed mission or audience? Is /. just another place for people to post their favorite wack-a-do conspiracy theories?
Slashdot's been getting a lot of alt-right folks lately, this "Guvmint iz steeling r Confederate Gold! We need that gold to buy guns to revolt against the country we love!"
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Slashdot's been getting a lot of alt-right folks lately
What do you mean lately? Some of these alt-right folks have really low UIDs.
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The difference is that back in the good old days, the people would have told them to fuck off with their ideology bullshit because this is a tech site about news for nerds and stuff that matters.
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Except that is still happening, just scroll up one post to see jwhyche (right wing nutter) down to -1 Troll and getting hammered in the replies.
this is a tech site about news for nerds and stuff that matters
For an American nerd, nothing matters more than ensuring you don't end up with psychotic government, one that wants to reign in your online rights, ban teh boobies, mandate sites carry their garbage (calling it speech is too generous), and coming for your encryption keys... all things republicans have actively proposed. That's before you consider the utter lunacy of
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I wonder if they were radicalized later in life or were always that way.
I became more liberal.
I recognized Faux News for what it was.
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There is a component of our psyche that gives rise to "fight or flight" responses.
Fox "news" et al design their news stories and special hosts with this in mind.
( to be sure, many news organizations seek the stories that will grab you, but not from "support this ideology" view )
They put out stories and foster hosts designed to enrage and engage their viewership.
The lizard brain ( in all of us ) responds to this, and in some cases begins to seek it.
https://insidescientific.com/f... [insidescientific.com]
These "news" ( propaganda )
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gold being valuable in the downfall of society is laughable. If things get that bad and we’re bartering gold for supplies, I’m going to trust the shiny metal you have is real gold? Hold on let me run it by the boys in the lab first. Shelf stable food and ammunition will be the currency.
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Assaying for real gold isn't that hard; you don't need boys in the lab. First off, almost nothing is as heavy as gold, so a simple density test (determine the volume by water displacement and weigh it) is good. Second, its softness means you can scrape it against an abrasive; the mark it'll leave is distinctive and will vary considerably on how pure it is (which is where we get the current usage of the word "touchstone"). And its resistance to any chemical reactions makes it easy to test with any number
Re: Who greenlights this shit? (Score:2)
It's also basically worthless after the fall. The only currencies that will matter are food, water, ammo and drugs. Anyone who thinks gold will be worthwhile in a collapse is clearly an idiot. Powder and rifle primers are what you should be stockpiling... And water filtration equipment ofc
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I wouldn't be so sure. In the fifth and sixth centuries, as the fall of Western Roman Empire destroyed most centralized order, gold only became *more* valuable as it became harder to obtain. Not that this is a guarantee it would be the same in another collapse, but it does suggest it might. No, it's not terribly rational, but people can be like that, particularly in chaotic times.
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gold being valuable in the downfall of society is laughable. If things get that bad and we’re bartering gold for supplies, I’m going to trust the shiny metal you have is real gold? Hold on let me run it by the boys in the lab first. Shelf stable food and ammunition will be the currency.
Gold has always been a strange touchstone for people. It surely attracts all sorts.
But aside from its practical uses, those "all sorts" give it the volatile price swings. Some of the kooks even want to go back on the so called gold standard. I did an analysis of trying to compare the GNP of the US to to total amount of gold ever mined. The reason I used those two seemingly different things had a purpose.
Just one nations output for a year versus the total amount of gold ever mined/recovered shows that
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>Some of the kooks even want to go back on the so called gold standard.
speaking as an Economics professor, we would dismiss Milton Friedman's gold bug support of it--except that turned out to be *so* right in his work that was almost universally dismissed by economists as crackpottery on expectations of unemployment (rather than the value itself) and inflation, which turned out to be dead-on in the stagflation of the 70s, and won him his Nobel prize.
Also, with a somewhat fixed supply, such as gold, the
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>Some of the kooks even want to go back on the so called gold standard.
speaking as an Economics professor, we would dismiss Milton Friedman's gold bug support of it--except that turned out to be *so* right in his work that was almost universally dismissed by economists as crackpottery on expectations of unemployment (rather than the value itself) and inflation, which turned out to be dead-on in the stagflation of the 70s, and won him his Nobel prize.
Also, with a somewhat fixed supply, such as gold, the actual money supply can be a *huge* multiple of the amount of actual gold--provided there remains enough around that people can trade in the currency for the actual metal without fail.
On the flip side, a gold standard was *not* a cure for inflation; there were some *major* bouts of inflation triggered by new discoveries of gold.
doc hawk
Looking at history, at one point in the USA, there was a cycle. A boom that lasted a couple years, followed by a bust of similar length.
Now of course, there will be those who disagree, but we have become much better at handling the boom and bust cycle. Whenever the latest fad, say the subprime loan debacle, falls apart, we've managed to temper the results. Most people don't realize just how close we came to worldwide depression that we almost achieved at the end of that bit of financial idiocy. Yet we ma
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I forget the name, but there was a journalist in the crumbling Weimar Republic who survived by shaving bits of gold off of a chain (watch chain?) given to him by(grandparents?).
In a collapse, gold would indeed be in finite supply, and known to have value in the event of a future recovery.
So, yes, odds are that it would be a usable medium of exchange. Whether it is practical to stockpile enough to matter, without having so much as to make one a target, is another question entirely.
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I understand wherever you're sitting in the U.S. that people in other parts of the country are wacky believe me they see you as being just as wacky. the issue is the U.S. is in Essence different nations loosely cemented together you can read about this more in Joel Garreau's "Nine nations of North America" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] (The Empty quarter, the Breadbasket, Mexamerica, The Foundry, New England, Dixie and Ecotopia" all of them have extremely fifteen world views and needs example people in the empty quarter make look at all the talk about Public transit and start laughing. If you want to dive deeper I also highly recommend the works of David Hackett Fisher Most notably "Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America" and "African Founders: How Enslaved People Expanded American Ideals"
Ah, yes - more of the attempts to classify murricans.
The problem with that thesis as I see it, is that it really has the monolithic "standard person" outlook, as it attempts to cast mentality by area.
When in fact, we are not monolithic. There are plenty of liberal people in deep red states, and conservatives in blue. I can take a walk around my neighborhood and while finding a majority of liberal bent, there were Trump 2020 flags seen during the last general election. I have neighbors of all of the pr
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Can't we just dump them all in one room and have them duke it out to the end, then simply shoot whoever wins?
Maybe then the sane people who aren't hellbent on trying to force the rest of the population to follow their favorite ideology could start rebuilding the country on the principles that it was founded on?
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Can't we just dump them all in one room and have them duke it out to the end, then simply shoot whoever wins?
It would be the most profitable PPV of all time. I can't think of a single person that wouldn't gleefully watch that happen.
Maybe then the sane people who aren't hellbent on trying to force the rest of the population to follow their favorite ideology could start rebuilding the country on the principles that it was founded on?
I think, if we were to rid ourselves of the pestilence of the controlling assholes in Washington, and probably strip back a few layers of owner-class self-worshipping shitheads, and maybe we could get over allowing ourselves to being manipulated into hating our countrymen. It's so stupid. And I've seen it shift a lot in my lifetime, from mild joking with one another to outright hatred
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Lots of left wing crazy's too. Had one a few days ago blaming things on trump that had nothing to do with trump. I hope he is getting the help he so desperately needs.
I think that Trump is doing alright all by himself. When you want to suspend the constitution https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] and start having public executions, including people he pardoned while president, you really don't need left wing anything to top that. Problem of course is Republicans fully endorse every word that comes out of his moth, including his revenge against anyone who dares go after him.
Re: Who greenlights this shit? (Score:2)
I just test drove a '15 Prius and aside from the poor visibility it was a lot nicer than I would have thought. I have had the road feel described as comparable to seventies land yachts and it just ain't true. Seems like the Prius is just another unfairly maligned piece of tech.
Re:Who greenlights this shit? (Score:4)
This place had a decidedly libertarian tone back in the good old days. That was back before the current owners turned it into a global warming blog.
Which version of libertarian though - the original, the Ayn Randers, or the Modern Republican version?
I like a traditional conservative to bounce ideas off of. I'm a Goldwater conservative myself, although that's considered irredeemably liberal these days. Pro choice, pro gay/trans. Strong military, respect for law enforcement, and pay attention to the spending, but once you decide what you are going to spend, you pay the bills.
Today, we have a lot of science deniers, ivermectin swiggers, flat earthers, pizzagaters, Putin apologists, Jewish Space Laser people and Da FBI Stole our Gold people, and law enforcement and the FBI is persecuting the man sent by god to save the US. It's persecuting Trump like the Joo's did Jeebuz!
That they call themselves conservatives is pretty sad. That's not conservatism, that's mental illness.
Re: Who greenlights this shit? (Score:2)
I can remember a strong element of Randian libertarianism here as long as I've been here. I've been here long enough to where I was a libertarian myself at the start, and am now a die-hard liberal. What converted me was living a life of comparative lack of privilege, and actually being amongst people for whom the system offers the least and seeing what that does to people. It's pretty easy to imagine that some of these incredibly privileged individuals have become libertarian over time as their needs are me
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Die-hard hints at a political belief system impervious to anything which might contradict it.
That's the last thing I want.
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I'm a fiscal conservative but just have no patience for all the religious baggage that comes with the traditional conservatives.
You'll get a kick out of something below.
Liberals seem to think they are the smartest people in the room and know what's best for everyone.
I've wondered about that myself. I think part of it is my personal leanings making me a bit biased. The far right is leaning toward enforcing how people act just as well.
Then you have the Magas. I just don't have the energy to go into all that.
The Evangelical MAGAS are gravitating toward philosophical problems with Christianity at this point: https://www.newsweek.com/evang... [newsweek.com] and https://www.insider.com/church... [insider.com]
Religious baggage indeed, when one's personal lord and savior is their declared enemy! Imagine when the Beatitudes, direc
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Back then the place had a libertarian tone but it was tampered with common sense and civility. We recognized that changes need to be made but we understood that they couldn't be forced or changed overnight. We also didn't blame all our ills on a has been president who is very likely going to wind up in a jail cell before the end of the year.
When the Columbine shooting happened, we didn't automatically blame it on the guns. We did debate gun control, but it was done in a civil manner. Now we blame e
Re: Who greenlights this shit? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Cannot RTFA thanks to a paywall. However, this has the beginnings of something that may interest /. users. If indeed a federal law enforcement agency did illegally seize *anything*, that's exactly the sort of thing people would discuss here. However, as it stands, there isn't really any info on the actual legal proceedings from what's immediately available here. Perhaps if this develops further we'll have more than a supposed conspiracy theory to talk about.
Same about the paywall, but if it was illegally seized it would have been a conspiracy among a handful of agents, not "the FBI".
Individual FBI agents don't really have a good motive to steal $500M on behalf of the FBI (and where does it go? That change to the budget is going to generate a lot of paperwork), individual people do have a good motive to steal it.
So the framing as "the FBI" stealing it is a bit of a red flag to me that this is a not particularly robust conspiracy theory.
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So the framing as "the FBI" stealing it is a bit of a red flag to me that this is a not particularly robust conspiracy theory.
I was thinking the same thing, plus a healthy dose of "pictures or video of the claim or it didn't happen."
Then I found this report from about five months ago. Things might not have happened exactly as Mr. Prada says, but it is apparent SOMETHING happened that was serious enough to bring out the FBI evidence response team. Here is a news report from a New York ABC news affiliate.
Treasure hunter claims government is covering up a secret gold rush [youtube.com]
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Maybe a handful of rogue FBI agents? If you're looking at 500 million or more in a commodity to spread around amongst the group, big trucks, backhoes, etc aren't even the least annoying to get off-record.
Re: Who greenlights this shit? (Score:2)
I bet, if not the FBI, LGM took it. Also why there's no pics. /s
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It was Colonel Mustard in the Kitchen with the Revolver, I tell you.
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To complain about the sliding quality of the posts here.
Quite seriously, what does this shit have to do with anything but conspiracy nuttery? Isn't there enough of that already?
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It's important to help those less fortunate. Do your part, and run your extensive tests on the page, saving them from very costly consulting fees.
Just give back, my friend!
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I'll even save them the hassle of checking mail constantly, I'll just post the findings here for the community to take care of them.
He's looking in the wrong place (Score:5, Funny)
First is Area 51, in the room that Stanley Kubrick filmed the fake moon landings.
Second is The HAARP location in Alaska.
Third is the PizzaGate restaurant, where Hillary and O'Blama come take some gold when they need some extra money.
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I have it on good authority that the gold is stored in three places.
First is Area 51, in the room that Stanley Kubrick filmed the fake moon landings.
Second is The HAARP location in Alaska.
Third is the PizzaGate restaurant, where Hillary and O'Blama come take some gold when they need some extra money.
Nope. It's in Mar-a-Lago behind the boxes of secret documents. Trump melts it down whenever he needs more gold frames for his mirrors.
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I have it on good authority that the gold is stored in three places.
First is Area 51, in the room that Stanley Kubrick filmed the fake moon landings.
Second is The HAARP location in Alaska.
Third is the PizzaGate restaurant, where Hillary and O'Blama come take some gold when they need some extra money.
Nope. It's in Mar-a-Lago behind the boxes of secret documents. Trump melts it down whenever he needs more gold frames for his mirrors.
And his solid gold toilet as well.
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Third is the PizzaGate restaurant, where Hillary and O'Blama come take some gold when they need some extra money.
Nah that money is gone. Hillary spent it all transferring her emails to Hunter's laptop.
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Third is the PizzaGate restaurant, where Hillary and O'Blama come take some gold when they need some extra money.
Nah that money is gone. Hillary spent it all transferring her emails to Hunter's laptop.
Yah - I forgot that part.
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Little do they know the coordinates for the gold are on Hunter's laptop.
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Little do they know the coordinates for the gold are on Hunter's laptop.
Arrgh!, now Beyonce and the Illuminati are going to come after us!
You spilled the beans.
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The only thing they will find there these days are more hidden classified documents.
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Monty python? (Score:5, Insightful)
From the WSJ article:
The pair has hunted for the Holy Grail in Nova Scotia, where some believe the Knights Templar landed, and helped people find lost coins in their backyard. They have appeared on treasure-hunting TV shows.
Any semblance of credibility that they had (and it was slight to start with) evaporated when I learned that their qualifications are successful quests for loose change and unsuccessful quests for the Holy Grail. That said, they deserve credit for the ingenuity of their publicity stunt for the TV shows.
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To be fair, the Wall Street Journal has become a pile of shit since Murdoch bought it
Confederate Gold (Score:3)
In April 1865, Confederate President Jefferson Davis fled Richmond, Va., with gold that would be worth millions today. Union troops later seized a large portion in Georgia, but that was then stolen at gunpoint...
I want to know more about that. Why has nobody made a movie of the story?
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I want to know more about that. Why has nobody made a movie of the story?
I nominate Quentin Tarantino for that task!
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I agree with your recommendation. This story definitely could not be told properly without feet pics. :)
Let me get this straight... (Score:2)
... these Confederates had this huge fortune in gold, but for some reason they couldn't afford to pay their farm hands?
Doesn't make sense to me.
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Why pay rent on something you already own?
This was the good old days, not today where you first buy something, then pay a monthly fee to keep using it.
Well, then again, technically, you had to feed slaves, shelter them, keep them (reasonably) healthy, or else you carry the risk of losing your investment if they die...
Know now why we stopped buying people and started renting them instead? Shift the risk to the people, if they get sick now, you can just throw them away and rent another one. And they are respo
Without the paywall (Score:1)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news... [msn.com]
Who would own the trove if ever found? (Score:2)
Assuming the loot exists, and would be actually found on/in US soil - who would be the rightful owner?
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That's a pretty good question and likely depends on the state you're in. In my country, a "treasure cache", i.e. something that was obviously buried by someone unrelated to the person owning the property (e.g. a bag of coins buried during a war by someone who then died in it, then later your grandfather somehow bought the property and nobody knew the bag was there) is technically the property of the country, but you are entitled to 50% of its value. Factually you and the country both own it to 50%, but the
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As Spain has demonstrated with sunken treasure ships, the existing government that has assumed power from the previous governmental owner is the rightful heir
In which case, the current US federal government would be the rightful owner of any 'lost' confederate treasure
Out by two orders of magnitude (Score:2)
This suggests the old adage may be true (Score:2)
"Set a thief to catch a thief".
How is this guy not super-rich already? (Score:3)
"Parada says a psychic guided him to a location at Dents Run"
"The pair has hunted for the Holy Grail in Nova Scotia, where some believe the Knights Templar landed"
"walking over it with dowsing rods"
And this from the WSJ ?
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And this from the WSJ ?
Hey, they're just reporting the nonsense; they're not actually directing or conducting said nonsense.
The FBI was digging up a UFO! (Score:2)
Any reason for coverup? (Score:2)
Now if the story is true, it is obviously very annoying for the guy, but doesn't the FBI or anyone else have the same right as he does to dig this gold up?
The real treasure... (Score:2)
Missing Facts (Score:3)
Like others said, TFA is paywalled, but the summary misses some points. This allegedly happened in 2018. The site is NOT on land owned by Dennis Parada; he alerted authorities to the site after running tests which suggested the presence of gold. The FBI ran its own tests which confirmed the likelihood of gold. The FBI dug at the site. The FBI says they didn't find anything, but Parada claims the took the gold and refused to give him the finder's fee. Dennis Parada and his son are suing the FBI.
Not far enough (Score:2)
Backed up by the solid evidence of a psychic and dowsing rods used by people who were on a pause for searching the holy grail in Canada, it is clear the only explanation of why the FBI couldn't provide video of them not digging during the night is they are covering up the aliens that did it for them.
Seriously? This story is considered news by anyone? The only thing I made up in the previous paragraph was the aliens, and I'm guessing if the interview went on another hour or they would've played a role in th
Permit (Score:2)
"You need to get a permit to search for, much less claim, buried, lost gold."
"Permits? We don't need no stinking permits."
More Data (Score:2)
Non-Paywalled article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news... [msn.com]
FOIA case docket: https://foiaproject.org/dc_vie... [foiaproject.org]
FOIA complaint: https://foiaproject.org/dc_vie... [foiaproject.org]
Sahara (Score:2)
was a 2005 movie about a Confederate gunboat with a load of gold, stranded up the Niger River. The plot is convoluted, to put it mildly, but the prologue (the CSS Texas escaping from a Union blockade) is beautifully done.
my interest (Score:2)
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Right after Jesus shows up
He said he'll be right back like 2000 years ago. I think it's time we accept that we've been stood up.
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There's a decent show on Netflix, called Messiah, that's along the lines of the scenario you propose. Drags for the last third, but the end was good in my opinion.
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