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Netflix's '3 Body Problem' Draws Mixed Reviews, Sparks Anger in China (cnn.com) 104

"My favorite kind of science fiction involves stories rooted in real science..." writes NPR's reviewer. "[T]here is something special about seeing characters wrestle with concepts closer to our current understanding of how the universe works."

The Verge calls it an "impressive" and "leaner" story than the book, arguing "it's a good one — and very occasionally a great one" that introduces the author's key ideas, though channelling "the book's spirit but not its brilliance."

And Slate calls it a "downright transformative" adaptation, "jettisoning most of the novel's characters and plucking scenes from all three books," while accusing it of "making the trilogy's expansive and philosophical story into something much more pedestrian and digestible."

But Reuters notes there's huge interest in China over this adaptation (by the co-creator of Mem>Game of Thrones) for the first Asian novel to win the Hugo Award for best science fiction novel. "The new series was trending on Chinese social media platform Weibo on Friday," reports Reuters, "with 21 million views so far." (The show came in first on Weibo's "top hot" trend rankings, they add, "despite Netflix being officially inaccessible in China. Chinese viewers would have had to watch the Netflix series from behind a VPN or on a pirate site.")

So what was their verdict? CNN reports Netflix's adaptation "has split opinions in China and sparked online nationalist anger over scenes depicting a violent and tumultuous period in the country's modern history." Among the country's more patriotic internet users, discussions on the adaptation turned political, with some accusing the big-budget American production of making China look bad. The show opens with a harrowing scene depicting Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, which consumed China in bloodshed and chaos for a decade from 1966... "Netflix you don't understand 'The Three Body Problem' or Ye Wenjie at all!" read a comment on social media platform Weibo. "You only understand political correctness!"

Others came to the show's defense, saying the scene closely follows depictions in the book — and is a truthful reenactment of history. "History is far more absurd than a TV series, but you guys pretend not to see it," read one comment on Douban, a popular site for reviewing movies, books and music.

Author Liu said in an interview with the New York Times in 2019 that he had originally wanted to open the book with scenes from Mao's Cultural Revolution, but his Chinese publisher worried they would never make it past government censors and buried them in the middle of the narrative. The English version of the book, translated by Ken Liu, put the scenes at the novel's beginning, with the author's blessing... Various other aspects of the show, from its casting and visual effects to the radical changes to the story's original setting and characters, also attracted the ire of Chinese social media users. Many compared it to a Chinese television adaptation released last year — a much lengthier and closer retelling of the book that ran to 30 episodes and was highly rated on Chinese review platforms.

The Netflix adaptation featured an international cast and placed much of the action in present-day London — thus making the story a lot less Chinese.

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Netflix's '3 Body Problem' Draws Mixed Reviews, Sparks Anger in China

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  • there's an equal and opposite adaptation.
    • there's an equal and opposite adaptation.

      Not adaptations, but similar. Case in point or counter point? Armageddon and Deep Impact :-)

  • by skam240 ( 789197 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @12:58PM (#64339199)

    Thankfully I don't care about what nationalists in any country think and have been enjoying the show a lot. I've had a bit of time to fill on my hands as I've had the flu the last few days so I'm almost done.

    None of my friends who have read the book have started watching though so I'm curious, what do folks who have read the book think of the show? Obviously the book will have more depth but I'm curious of thoughts outside of that.

    Having enjoyed the show enough I do plan to read the books at some point but I have no idea when I might make time for that.

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      Yeah, it's pretty good. Reasonable enough physics that it's a bit jarring when the three body problem turns out to actually be a four body problem. I'm told the books are "all math" so I'll have to check those out.

    • I started reading the book but did not like the writing style, perhaps because it was translated, so I stopped.

      I just downloaded the series, so I'll start watching that this weekend. If I enjoy it perhaps I will give the book another try.
      • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @03:42PM (#64339509) Homepage Journal

        As the Italians say, "traduttore traditore." I'd translate what that means into Engish but it loses something.

      • 'I started reading the book but did not like the writing style, perhaps because it was translated, so I stopped. '

        Exactly my thoughts!
        Even if I didn't stop, but the style was very strange, like translated by a Chinese not a native English-speaking translator, very strange rhythm and style, a cultural thing I guess, I really had a very hard time reading it.

        PS. English is my fourth language, I always thought it was me.

      • by Hadlock ( 143607 )

        I read a bunch and I also really struggled with the first book. I would start a new chapter and it would take me a page to realize we'd skipped forward/back in time, and that the characters were somehow related. I'm american born with no asian heritage, and I found all the names really difficult to follow as well. I thought the plot was good but the translation was awful. I did not bother with books 2 or 3

    • by ahoffer0 ( 1372847 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @03:42PM (#64339507)

      I'm kind of excited to see the show. The books were unfocused and discursive. A Western book editor would have insisted he tighten them up before publication. Adapting then to a medium where there is less time to communicate the story might be just the right thing

      • Just watched the first episode on Netflix. It was excellent. In fact I enjoyed it more than the book.

    • I found the book fairly dull and stylistically confused. Some of that perhaps comes from translation, but the awkward plot and stylistic issues almost certainly are built into the story itself. I finished it only be sheer effort alone, because of its reputation, but honestly I found its reputation to be ill-deserved. It just isn't a very good book. I can't imagine subjecting myself to watching a miniseries version of it.

    • My wife and I binged the show over the weekend. I've read the books and found them amazing. The alien perspective really made me think, and I found some of the concepts explored really mind-blowing. My wife has yet to read the books. They did make a number of changes from the book, including breaking up the central characters into a larger cast, they compressed some of the timeline and included some events from book two in the first season, and had a much more western focused perspective. But I didn't
      • by skam240 ( 789197 )

        Thanks for the response. Glad to hear it sounds like the show is what I would call "close enough".

        Also, is your sig a Shadowrun reference?

        • You have successfully identified the Shadowrun otaku. I've been a huge fan and player of the TTRPG, although the quote itself is from the save game splash screen from the 1994 Sega Genesis game.
          • by skam240 ( 789197 )

            Nice, I thoroughly enjoyed the table top and Genesis games as well although I haven't played the table top version since second edition.

            I hope you don't mind me being a chatty Cathy here but have you played recent editions of the table top and enjoyed them? I hear Shadowrun is on 5th edition now with a lot of rule changes including the elimination of dice pools which were a favorite mechanic of mine.

            • My group definitely enjoyed the changes in 3rd and 4th edition and our fondest memories are probably from 4th edition. 5th edition was harder for us to get into. It still has dice pools, although they work differently. Character building feels a lot more complicated in 5th, even though they tried to make it more 'balanced' to prevent some of the more egregious optimized builds. Hacking definitely seems better in 5th, although all the wireless options was a mixed blessing. We had to house rule a bunch o
              • by skam240 ( 789197 )

                Oh the lore for the game is fantastic but mechanics to me still matter. In that context the dice pools in 2e were a favorite as while they didnt change roll playing much they meant (to me at least) more meaningful and interesting decisions to be made in every round of combat than many of the other table tops I've played.

                Thanks for the info on Shadowrun. My social circles nowadays seem to only play D&D 5e and I've been getting bored of playing the same rule set as well as the same basic fantasy universes

  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @01:08PM (#64339213)

    The Slate review actually makes me more likely to try this. The original seemed a lot more likely to satisfy a closet revolutionary in China than me.

    It's sad the original was self-censored out of fear of the CCP's potential response, but it does give a more powerful message than the story itself.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by reanjr ( 588767 )

      The whole Cultural Revolution angle isn't as important to the story as people seem to make it out to be. It provides really important backstory for one important character, but the details of her backstory serve to add flavor without providing substance to the plot.

      • by Dagmar d'Surreal ( 5939 ) on Sunday March 24, 2024 @09:45AM (#64340801) Journal

        Garbage. It explains why she was willing to sell out humanity in favor of a faraway alien species. That character's entire life under the party rule had been privation, cruelty and betrayal, and based on those life experiences her determination was that humanity was irredeemable. That's fairly important to the plot because it's why she called them aliens back, and why she told them she'd help them invade.

        I don't think some of ya'll understand just how disturbing it is to see people treated like chattel by their government, because you've grown used to seeing it.

        • Yes, it's good to understand the villain's backstory. But this is not some character driven narrative. Star Wars was fine before we had prequel explaining Vader's backstory. It wasn't necessary.

          Removing the cultural revolution doesn't impact the plot in any way. It just as easily could have been left out and it would not require any changes throughout the entire trilogy. In fact, that's exactly what the Tencent production did. And that adaptation otherwise hews very closely to the book.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:23PM (#64339691) Homepage Journal

      The originals were not censored exactly, they just moved the chapters about the cultural revolution to the middle instead of the start. That was to avoid it looking like a book about the cultural revolution. It was initially serialized so by the time those chapters came up it had established itself as science fiction and about other things.

      It was a clever work-around because it allowed the text to be published without censorship or forced edits, and by explaining what happened anyone who wants to read the chapters in the original order can do so.

      As for the quality of the original, it reminds me of a lot of Japanese works. Many of them can be appreciated with little understanding of Japanese culture or language, but if you do have that knowledge then you can enjoy it on so many more levels. The translators tried to fill in the gaps with notes, but such things can only do so much. It's just the nature of translated works, particularly when the cultural setting is very different.

      • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:30PM (#64339701)

        >it reminds me of a lot of Japanese works. Many of them can be appreciated with little understanding of Japanese culture or language, but if you do have that knowledge then you can enjoy it on so many more levels.

        It took me a while to get used to Japanese tropes, which become storytelling shorthand for the creative folks. Chinese movies, of which I have consumed only a limited range containing a few old school wire-work kung-fu flicks and some modern action flicks) were yet another adjustment.

        I can only imagine how stupid/alien some of the tropes used in the West must seem to non-Western folks until they get used to them.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @06:15PM (#64339795) Homepage Journal

          Indeed, and it's interesting that you use kung-fu movies as an example, because most of those came out of Hong Kong and were in Cantonese. Quite different to Mandarin movies produced in the east of the country, even when they are the same genera. E.g. compare Hong Kong martial arts movies with Mandarin wuxia ones.

          It's a bit frustrating because there always going to be so many movies you can't fully appreciate. Like a native French speaker watching a Pink Panther movie.

          • >Like a native French speaker watching a Pink Panther movie

            Not now, Cato!

            • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

              My favourite joke was that his French accent was so outrageously bad that even other French people couldn't understand him.

  • by g253 ( 855070 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @01:10PM (#64339217)

    I haven't watched the series yet but the books really blew me away, highly recommended for any sci-fi reader. It has some really epic ideas. I still think about those often, years after reading them.

    • by rgomezc ( 992326 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @02:23PM (#64339323) Homepage
      I just watched the first episode and really liked it. I read the first book last year. I can't say it got to me as several other SciFi books. I am a big SciFi fan and had very high hopes for those books. Since I don't ready Chinese, I bought the books first in Spanish. But the printed edition was full of errors and typos and it made very difficult to enjoy, even follow in some parts, so I switched to the an english edition. I have no problem reading english but somewhat I just couldn't get "in the zone" to read the book as I usually get for this kind of novels... I finished the book, started the second one but haven't continued. I hope to finish the TV adaptation and give the books another change, as, as several others have said, there are a lot of great and interesting ideas.
      • I found the first book to be a lot slower and more boring than the other 2. I think they're worth reading if you didn't hate the first book, it only gets better.

  • I thought the chinese tv-series was all three books, or is it the same as Netflix, only the first book? I'll just wait with watching Netflix version until they do all three books or if the cancel it, as the first season ends on a major cliffhanger as I'm told.
    • by gnite ( 3701059 )
      No, so far it's only the first book in 30 episodes.
      • thanx. Then I'll just wait until the rest has been done too, as I hate having to wait another year or so before the story continues. Luckily decades of other series that I still need to watch which did already conclude.
        • Hmm. You realize, of course, that if all viewers took your approach, no one would ever watch the first season of any show, thus guaranteeing that no show ever had a second season?

          • by znrt ( 2424692 )

            if all viewers took your approach

            the whole point of deviating from the herd is that they don't.

          • Yeah I understand that, but I've been burned too many times with a season ending on a cliffhanger without any resolve and it being cancelled, so making it a waste of time having watched it. Maybe they should consider making series not multi season or at least resolve the main line of the season and have it setup for a next but not in such a way that it ends on a big cliffhanger, OR they should be obligated to finish it with movie if a complete series is cancelled. Only series I might start watching immediat
  • Am pretty unacquainted with current Chinese literature/fiction. Idle musing therefore, just wondering. Both of these works are by authors in sufficiently good odor to be able to remain and write in China. Both are quite explicit about events which seem to be banned from public discussion in general. So what is happening? Why are they permitted at all?

    The Fat Years one can see one possibility why - the very long monologue at the end by the representative of the ruling committee comes eventually to the c

  • Ok? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bahbus ( 1180627 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @01:41PM (#64339263) Homepage

    China isn't allowed to watch Netflix. And Netflix doesn't do business in China. So why would anyone care what anyone thinks from a country that isn't allowed to access the content? That's like a 10yr old trying to give me their opinions on different wines. They aren't allowed to have wine, and if they did get their hands on it somehow, I'm not listening to their opinions because their opinions are meaningless.

    accusing the big-budget American production of making China look bad

    Good news! China always looks bad and doesn't need anyone's help to do so.

    • Re:Ok? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by pauljlucas ( 529435 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @02:09PM (#64339307) Homepage Journal

      That's like a 10yr old trying to give me their opinions on different wines. They aren't allowed to have wine, and if they did get their hands on it somehow, I'm not listening to their opinions because their opinions are meaningless.

      Everyone's opinions on wine are meaningless [youtu.be].

      • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

        Wine snobs don't have opinions to begin with.

      • Everyone's opinions on wine are meaningless.

        That's not really what the video is saying, it's also taking a somewhat overly strong position.

        Yes wine, like other foods is pretty subjective. Good or bad depends hugely on personal preference. I don't really care much for steak less than medium rare. I can eat it, but I think actually cooked steak has a better flavour and more pleasant texture. Steak snobs hate that and I don't care.

        When it comes to wine and booze in general, I'll have a crack at most things.

        My

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      China isn't allowed to watch Netflix. And Netflix doesn't do business in China. So why would anyone care what anyone thinks from a country that isn't allowed to access the content?

      The novel that is source material for the netflix series was written by a Chinese author and is set in China. It makes sense for the citizens of that country to have opinions about an adaptation of such a work by artists working in a different country. Some things may get lost in translation, be adapted clumsily, etc.

      The current political climate between the U.S. and China increases the odds of an adaptation causing offense.

      • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

        I'm not saying it doesn't make sense for them to have opinions on it. I know the source material. The English source is also different than the Chinese source.

        Anyway, the point is why should Netflix or anyone involved with the show give a rats ass about their opinions? Whether they praise it or complain about it, they're opinions aren't going to be considered going forward. They are an audience that does not matter.

      • Re:Ok? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <slashdot@worf.ERDOSnet minus math_god> on Saturday March 23, 2024 @10:03PM (#64340113)

        The novel that is source material for the netflix series was written by a Chinese author and is set in China. It makes sense for the citizens of that country to have opinions about an adaptation of such a work by artists working in a different country. Some things may get lost in translation, be adapted clumsily, etc.

        The current political climate between the U.S. and China increases the odds of an adaptation causing offense.

        Except the translation of the novel was done with the blessing of the author. The background information of the "bad" stuff (like Tienanmen Square) was put at the beginning to educate English readers about cultural events they may not have background knowledge of.

        Of course, the original author is also critical of the Chinese government, which is probably why they allowed it.

        The Chinese are merely upset because they were brought up believing a version of history that was whitewashed (aka brainwashed) because it was censored from their history books. The series is depicting the "bad events" that they didn't know about. And of course, they're reacting as anyone else would since that's "woke ideology" in China.

        • Hell, I'm not sure the Chinese have knowledge of this either.
          I have a Chinese friend, living in Malaysia, who still forcefully claims that the Tiananmen Massacre didn't actually happen and was simply made up by the West. I'm sure her opinion of earlier abominations would be equally unbelieving.
    • Re:Ok? (Score:5, Informative)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:29PM (#64339699) Homepage Journal

      Netflix is not blocked in China. Netflix simply doesn't have operations there, probably because there are already established players in that market and to enter it they would requite a colossal investment.

      Instead they partner with Chinese streaming video networks to release their most popular shows that appeal to Chinese audiences, like Game of Thrones. The shows are censored according to Chinese law, just as they are in other countries. For example, in Japan they have to censor genitalia. Hmm, thinking about it, does that mean Game of Thrones is illegal without age verification in Texas now?

      Of course there is rampant piracy of the uncensored version in China, with fan produced subtitles to fill in the gaps in the official version.

      • by Bahbus ( 1180627 )

        Blocked/Not available is the same thing for all intents and purposes.

        Partnering or licensing a Chinese streaming company to censor and play various shows in China doesn't change anything. It's still not Netflix at that point. And the Chinese complaints of a version they aren't supposed to see are still meaningless. Japan needing to censor genitalia is not in the same vein as the Chinese censoring, well, everything.

  • Really enjoyed it. Have to close an eye here and there for plot holes, but it was brought nicely so did not disturb.
  • I've watched it when it came out, and it's much, much better than the netflix crap.
    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Careful. You said something _positive_ about something coming out of China! That is heresy! Obviously anything and everything that China makes _must_ be crap.

      That said, the book was really bad. No idea why anybody found it readable or even good.

    • if its anything like the other one, nope.
    • Is it still on the internet? I watched one episode from their youtube and figured I'd watch more later, but then they all disappeared!

  • Imagining Xitler jumping up and down, screaming "No! No! No! Stop talking!" gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

  • by registrations_suck ( 1075251 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @02:50PM (#64339365)

    Ah, the irony. People in a country illegally watching something that their country doesn't allow them to watch, and then bitching that what they are watching makes heir country look bad.

    That's just priceless.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Ah, the irony. People in a country illegally watching

      Especially ironic because Chinese law does not make it illegal for them to watch it, the American DMCA does. Because Netflix isn't in China.

      So it is American law that makes it illegal for the audience in China in watch an American adaptation of a Chinese book that makes "China look bad" by not being as close to the source material as the Chinese adaptation of the same book.

  • by Eunomion ( 8640039 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @03:03PM (#64339409)
    They way they are now censoring even American censors About Americans aimed at American audiences. Plus I've read a few "critically acclaimed" sci-fi novels written in China, and they're mostly screeds against the West. It's a bad joke, and I'm not playing along.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @05:34PM (#64339709) Homepage Journal

      It's not out of China, Netflix US loosely based their version on it, and it is full of original characters and dialogue. It's more like how The Magnificent Seven is loosely based on Seven Samurai, than a direct adaptation.

      As for censorship, I see Apple censored the final episode of Masters of the Air. A Jewish man who survived the holocaust is talking about what he plans to do now his family has been murdered and his home destroyed, and the subtitles randomly drop out when he says he is going to move to Palestine. It doesn't really work because you can clearly hear him say "Palestine" and from the context is to clear what he means, but they tried...

    • The reason the Chinese audience had to watch through a VPN is because of Netflix region-locking their content.

      That's right, the censorship is not done by China, but by America.

    • C'mon. Take a gander at "Wolf Warrior". That things the funniest, most ridiculous take on the military since Mr. Roberts.
      Oh, wait... it's not supposed to be funny? oooh, nevermind.
  • Censors of other countries shouldn't be dictating or altering scripts for media in my country. I think I'll watch it because anything assholes don't like is probably worth a look.
  • Why didn't Netflix depict the Cultural Revolution as a frolicking good time? Mel Brooks filmed the Spanish Inquisition as light hearted foolery! Surely Netflix could do the same for the Cultural Revolution.

  • Well, the first half, never got any farther. I bought it because of good reviews and found it unreadable, uninspired, shallow and recycling ideas that proper SF has discovered a few decades ago. No idea why why anybody likes it.

    • Well, the first half, never got any farther. I bought it because of good reviews and found it unreadable, uninspired, shallow and recycling ideas that proper SF has discovered a few decades ago.

      I can't remember exactly what all was in the last half of the book but I think you skipped out on some pretty interesting ideas in the last half I don't recall seeing elsewhere before. I am pretty sure it's those ideas that give it such high marks from so many.

      However I would agree it's not easy to read, and I only

      • I made it through all three English-translated books, though it was a bit of a slog through the middle until I "let it go." Certainly, there are genuinely interesting ideas. There were also quite a few face-palm moments that broke the flow when all I could think was "Why would anyone, in any time or place, make that decision or put themself in that position?" I don't know if it's bad writing or cultural perspective. I think the series works better as one novel followed by several linked novellas (i.e.,
  • ... something much more pedestrian and digestible.

    Not sure it's something you want to hear, especially if you're a pedestrian. :-)

  • No shit (Score:5, Insightful)

    by deimios666 ( 1040904 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @04:44PM (#64339649)

    "scenes depicting a violent and tumultuous period in the country's modern history"

    9 of the top 20 bloodiest events in history according to "Atrocities" by Mathew White, involved the Chinese. Sometimes civil wars, sometimes Mongols, sometimes Communism.
    The result: between 7-40 million Chinese dead every single time.

    So they've had quite a number of "tumultuous periods".

    Details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • In English.
    I found it rather hard to read, I don't know if it was the translator or if the original Chinese has different literature system.

    Until the very end, I found it very confusing, maybe because English is my fourth language, but the Netflix version, even if it seems very, VERY abbreviated, seems easier to understand, maybe it's a cultural thing.

  • by PPH ( 736903 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @06:55PM (#64339899)

    Wasn't the Chinese series good enough? Is this going to be another Girl With The Dragon Tattoo or Lathe of Heaven?

    "You've not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon."

    • The Chinese series was downright disturbing, because to most of the world the "modern day" parts of the show were a warped dystopia. That might be their reality in China, but I have no interest in seeing it on my screens.

      • by PPH ( 736903 )

        It's a view of how the Chinese see themselves. Or at least a government approved view. As such, it is interesting in and of itself.

  • by SysEngineer ( 4726931 ) on Saturday March 23, 2024 @07:40PM (#64339969)
    The cultural revolution killed millions, Of course China want to white wash the truth.
    • by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Sunday March 24, 2024 @11:27AM (#64340955) Journal

      Maybe a few million. The Great Leap Forward, a decade earlier, killed tens of millions. The conclusion we can draw from this is that Mao really didn't give a damn about human life. The Great Leap Forward had been about showing the Chinese populace and the world how incredibly great Mao's version of Marxism was, and ending up in mass famine. So discredited was Mao by this that people Deng Xiaoping managed to sideline him and bring some sanity back to the government. Mao didn't like being sidelined by his underlings, so sparked the Cultural Revolution to destabilize Chinese society and wrest power from Deng and Co., which he did, and Deng and the other reformers were sent off to be "re-educated". In the end Deng won; after Mao's death and the attempted coup by the Gang of Four, Deng was "rehabilitated" and handed power, and it is Deng Xiaoping who actually turned China around.

      Sadly the lessons of that period seem to have been forgotten.

  • I have only watched a little of it, and it is VERY loosely based on the books. It has been "modernized" with the appropriate characters the right persuasions to fit what Hollywood thinks western audiences want now.
  • I was hoping for this one, especially given that the Tencent series is brilliant (though long-winded).

    Then I watched the trailer and got the impression that it's another gender-swapped, dumbed-down, "for modern audiences" piece and decided I don't want to spoil my memory of one of the best SciFi books.

    Is it what I fear it is? Or did they stay true to the books?

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I've only watched the shortened Fan-edit of "Three-Body" [disembiggened.com], so I can't comment on much, but they clearly butchered the story in at least one very disappointing way. The Netflix version strips away the anti-human "green" aspect, which is a real thing that desperately needs more attention. As does the flourishing censorship in the west; I wouldn't be surprised if there were many legitimate complaints about the adaption.

  • I fully expect it to be disappointing, even the much acclaimed new Dune movie is lacking in depth compared with the book.

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