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Indian Filmmaker Ditches Human Musicians for AI (techcrunch.com) 32

Indian filmmaker Ram Gopal Varma is ditching human musicians for artificial intelligence, saying he'll use only AI-generated tunes in future projects, a move that underscores AI's growing reach in creative industries. From a report: The filmmaker and screenwriter, known for popular Bollywood movies including Company, Rangeela, Sarkar, and Satya has launched a venture, called RGV Den Music, that will only feature music generated from AI apps including Suno and Udio, he told TechCrunch. Varma said he will use the AI-generated music in all his projects, including movies. The entire background score on his new feature movie, called Saree, is also AI-generated, he said. In an interview, Varma urged artists to embrace AI rather than resist it. "Eventually, the music comes from your thoughts. You need to have clarity on what you want the app to produce. It's the taste that will matter," he said.

Indian Filmmaker Ditches Human Musicians for AI

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  • Known for what now?
  • by Errol backfiring ( 1280012 ) on Friday September 20, 2024 @04:14AM (#64802027) Journal
    Would that sound like the tunes of all the Star Wars spin-offs by Disney? Tunes you can't remember because there is no musical flow in them, but you can hear that in a galaxy far, far away the original tune was their basis?
  • Is AI creative, or regurgitate? If the latter, then the film maker is using what essentially a human created and isn't getting royalties for.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Regurgitate at least for "generative" AI. The mathematics do not allow anything else.

    • We should call it "Derivative AI" instead of "Generative AI". It is a like a washing machine. You put everything inside, it gets blended and the dirty copyright gets cleaned.

    • Is AI creative, or regurgitate? If the latter, then the film maker is using what essentially a human created and isn't getting royalties for.

      The age old argument.

      Then again, we here are just "regurgitating" 26 letters and some punctuation ... where do I send the royalty check?

  • What I am interested to know is

    a) Will that work with regards to the audience?
    and
    b) Will that result in copyright problems or not?

    • As to a: probably. You will probably not fool most Bach-fans with generated Bach-like music. With the risk of being compared with someone who buys 1000$/meter speaker cable: AI 'Bach' just sounds ... weird. It 'feels wrong'. Bach seems too complex for AI. But for other types of music: I did hear some almost decent AI generated techno. Techno is a lot simpler than Bach, but even there the result sounded a bit far fetched for me.

      I do think that most techno-heads could enjoy AI generated techno though. So fo
      • Bach is structured and mathematical in nature, I would think an AI would mimic the style of Bach rather quickly. Bach fans will know all his works well enough to spot any imposter; I had my Bach phase and I might do ok at detection though a very similar style could fool me.

    • by zlives ( 2009072 )

      for b, it would be interesting to see if part of the product is derivative and un copyright-able, does it make the whole the same? some one here shed some light please.

  • Will he be collaborating with Daler Mehndi [youtube.com]? After all, when you become the biggest Indi-pop artist of your time [wikipedia.org], you must be doing something right with music.

  • He finds out Copyright doesn't apply to AI music, and people can will freely use it as public domain. This is the core of why media companies will not want to admit to using AI for anything they wish to have under copyright!
    • https://asiaiplaw.com/sector/c... [asiaiplaw.com] >On February 9, 2024, India’s Ministry of Commerce and Industry announced that the country’s current legal framework for patents and copyrights is capable of protecting AI-generated works and related innovations. Hence, it is not necessary to develop separate rights for AI-generated works. This indicates that the Indian government says copyright can be granted on AI works, though it goes into note that the judiciary may not agree. Still, less cut and dry th
    • Yes, for those who have never used it, AI generation seems like a monolithic, all-or-nothing pushbutton proposition. And indeed, the law in question applies to songs entirely created with AI, which was what was mostly being created by people using some of the first wave of software available a few years ago.

      The current reality however - for those who actually use AI agents in a creative manner today - is that these generative features can be used in a much more granular manner, for creating very specific
  • .... but I like the scores done by greats like Danny Elfman and such... Oooops, I am referring to EU/US movies, but I am sure they will get on board with this shortly.
  • And so it begins (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Miles_O'Toole ( 5152533 ) on Friday September 20, 2024 @08:57AM (#64802453)

    Music stolen from artists, who will receive no compensation, gobbled up by some corporate AI bro, partially digested then vomited onto the public stage as "AI-generated".

    Ram Gopal Varma is a leech...a parasite feeding on the work of others and claiming it as his own.

  • Do we have to have an article for every single person that decides to use "AI" instead of hiring people for something?

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