Firefly DVD Set Released 297
Richard M. Nixon writes "As previously reported the DVD set for Joss Whedon's ill fated Western/Space Opera is now available. The DVD has all 11 episodes that aired, 3 episodes that didn't air, commentary on 7 episodes, and lots of bonus features including Joss singing the Firefly theme. It would make a nice Christmas gift for any Whedon fan who has not already run out and bought it. If DVD Sales are good enough, could we see a second season?"
Little late? (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if firefly sells enough to come back. I heard that fox started thinking about bringing Family Guy back after its DVD sales did so well, so maybe there is a real chance for Firefly.
Re:Little late? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Little late? (Score:2)
Re:This xmas, FIGHT THE MAN! (Score:3)
Sort of. This [downhillbattle.org] is its parent site.
Damn funny though.
Re:Little late? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Little late? (Score:5, Funny)
I should have a DVD player by the end of the holidays...and probably a TV some time shortly after that
Re:Little late? (Score:2)
It would be nice to see more Firefly, but difficult. The sets have already been struck, and the cast are out on new contracts. However, if the demand is there and the cast could be reassembled, the sets would magically reappear, I'm sure.
Re:Little late? (Score:2)
Am I the only one... (Score:2)
And I thought *BSD was dying...
AHHHH!!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:AHHHH!!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:AHHHH!!!! (Score:5, Informative)
Been there, done that (Score:5, Insightful)
And to think they took this off and left "Everyone Loves Raymond" on. Now they're wondering why we don't watch TV...
RB
Re:Been there, done that (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Been there, done that (Score:5, Insightful)
I like Raymond
We need some open source movie making (perhaps with Blender and cheap clusters such is just around the corner). Version 0.1 of OurGreatOnlineAnimatedSeries might suck, but by Version 0.8 it'll be the best thing on, beating anything from Hollywood hands down.
Re:Been there, done that (Score:4, Insightful)
If the roles where reversed, womens groups would have had it pulled after the pilot.
it is completely insulting to men.
how is that flamebait? (Score:5, Insightful)
Raymond (and "According to Jim", and "My Wife and Kids", and "8 Simple Rules" while Jon Ritter was still alive, and just about every other "family" show on these days) gets most of its laughs from the foibles and follies of a mostly inept father/husband. If the character of Raymond were a woman, NOW and other womens' groups would be screaming bloody murder, and rightly so. But since the dufuses of these shows are all men, we're expected to laugh along with everyone else.
Again, I ask, Why? Why should men be made the butt of every joke on TV? Why should husbands and fathers be portrayed as lazy, stupid, untrustworthy fools? What ever happened to "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best"? The only halfway decent father figure on TV these days is Red from "The 70's Show", and he's an ass most of the time.
Re:Been there, done that (Score:4, Insightful)
Why would 'Open Source Movie Making' automatically be better than Hollywood's current trend of designing by committe? Sorry to be pessimistic, but I imagine something very sterile coming out of a project like this.
Now, if you were to talk about letting one guy have the idea and having a group of people work to achieve it, I'd stand behind it. Individual creativity is far more interesting than watching decisions made because "people named Theo might be offended at the title beginning with The".
The advantage is in the forking... (Score:3, Insightful)
Because in Hollywood, only one entity can "own" the title, and as such, only one "official" version can be released. (ignoring for the moment, director's cuts, edits for television, restorations for DVDs, etc.) In such a collaborative process, everybody thrashes it out until there's consensus - or until someone in charge puts their foot down.
In an open source environment, everybody thr
Re:Been there, done that (Score:3, Insightful)
The thing to consider, though, is that all of those shows you listed (COPS, Survivor, Blind Date, Elimidate, etc. ad nauseum) are reality TV shows which are relatively inexpensive to create. You don't even have to pay for too many actors, since there are so many people who hope to get famous (or infamous as is the case for some) by being on these shows. You don't really have to pay writers, since the show just kind of "happens." Etc, etc... The truth is most people in the game serve the almighty dollar (
Re:Been there, done that (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Been there, done that (Score:2, Informative)
Takes more than software to make a movie. You got special effects, but unless you want to do it all animated you need actors, cameras, sets, sound stages....
They essentially built the ship for the Firefly set. You could walk from one end of the ship
Re:Been there, done that (Score:2)
Re:Been there, done that (Score:2)
You should check out machinima [machinima.com], the making of movies using 3D game engines. You can have actors, costumes, vehicles, sets, lighting, and special effects for free. Most of it so far has been pretty lame, but Red vs. Blue [redvsblue.com], made with the Halo engine, is hysterically funny and has become pretty successful. (Season 2 debuts at Lincoln Center soon.)
It's not "open source" exactly, but it does put a lot of tools in the hands of would-be indie filmmakers.
Re:Been there, done that (Score:2)
I hope she doesn't read Slashdot!
Re:Been there, done that (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh well.
Re:Been there, done that (Score:5, Interesting)
The sad fact is, while there are some shows I really like, I prefer to watch TV when it hits DVD. I would rather spend $40 a month on DVDs than cable. Star Trek, Farscape, Babylon 5, Buffy, Angel, and 24 are some of the many shows I have mostly watched from DVD (ST:TNG I saw mostly as it aired, but DS9 I'm only now catching up on through DVD.)
I only saw the pilot to firefly, but I liked it. I'm looking foward to seeing it now on DVD.
I wonder how many sci-fi shows have poor ratings because geeks like me can't be bothered to actually watch TV with commercials. Will it ever be possible for a series to survive in a straight to DVD format?
Re:Maybe cause Everybody Loves Raymond is good? (Score:2, Flamebait)
Example: A girl walks in with a pretty red dress, raymond say "You look like a prostitute" and the laugh track plays fo
Maybe a movie? (Score:5, Interesting)
Everybody has gone their separate ways, so we won't see a second season, but at one point in the commentary they said they didn't want to spill all of the beans in case there is a Firefly movie.
But I want to know all of the beans! There were so many good story lines to take advantage of, but were never explained!
Re:Maybe a movie? (Score:3, Informative)
IMDB says it's in production right now. (Score:2)
"In production" can mean a lot of things... according to Whedonesque [whedonesque.com], "Joss Whedon hints that the movie has still a very long way to go before it gets made. "If I start talking about it before there is [anything definitive to say], it lessens the chance that [it will get made]."
Re:Maybe a movie? (Score:4, Informative)
Josh who? (Score:5, Informative)
Or, you could just get it right and call him Joss Whedon [imdb.com]. Either way.
Re:Josh who? (Score:3, Funny)
*ducks and runs for cover*
Joss not Josh (Score:3, Interesting)
Too Bad (Score:5, Interesting)
Much Better The Second Time Around (Score:5, Interesting)
However, I think a major part of the reason for this could have been the poorly chosen episodes that Fox decided to air. I think if the first two episodes in the series had been aired first, rather than last, it would have made a lot more sense to the fans.
The extras are good, the stories are good, and at least in my opinion, it's a lot better than the 'Battlestar Galactica' mini-series. Plus, it has the added advantage of being both inexpensive (especially compared to the Star Trek series), and complete (no other seasons to buy at a later date).
So I recommend it to any Sci-Fi fan, it's a great addition to any collection, especially if you are a Buffy or Angel fan, if only because the commentary by Mutant Enemy veterans (Like Joss), has a lot of tiny insights into those shows as well.
Dr. Wu
Yes, There's Gas In The Car
Have mine (Score:5, Interesting)
I think if Fox had decided to show the 2 hour Pilot, it might have lasted longer.
I think the quality of the Episodes got better as the show progressed. I really liked "Out Of Gas" and "Trash" (which was never aired).
Anyhow, maybe UPN or SciFi would pick it up. It was a different show and I enjoyed it.
A movie is in the works (Score:3, Informative)
Worth the Bucks (Score:2)
I really like the fact that things in space make no sounds!
Re:Worth the Bucks (Score:2, Informative)
Easter Egg (Score:5, Interesting)
Throw in disc four that has the special features menu on it, and I think it's on the second special features menu. You just have to highlight the bottom left option and hit left again, and it will highlight a little thing on the side. Sorry I can't be more precise I don't have the info handy, it's not too hard to find with a minor bit of fiddling.
-hero.
UK doesn't get the DVD set... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:UK doesn't get the DVD set... (Score:2)
Got it from DVDSoon, got the confirmation mail last night... Oh, and Hi! I used to be u5rmc@csc in a previous life...
Me too (Score:2, Informative)
Good stuff. Good dialog, good characters, good stories. You can see the threads that Whedon was going to build up and play out emerging, particularly the second time through.
So far, I've only made it through 1.5 discs (about 6 episodes?) and have only some mild complaints. First, the swearing is as lame as it was in Farscape. Second, the commercial breaks are very obvious. Looking at most of them, it would take
The Chu shie fook executes at the Fox network (Score:4, Informative)
I haven't seen Farscape so I don't know about its swearing. The swearing in Firefly was actually Chinese. Joss's idea was that in the future the only two superpowers that survive are the United States and China, and thus everyone knows both English and Chinese. (But reserve the Chinese for the swearing for the ease of the audience I assume.)
Incidently, the
The cool thing about swearing in Chinese is that they could get away with saying stuff that the censors would otherwise never allow. It is kinda like Kenny on South Park, where you can read between the lines to guess what they said. Except in this case you could potentially look up what they are actually saying. The downside is the actors were not exactly fluent in Chinese and people who are would probably not understand them.
Second, the commercial breaks are very obvious. Looking at most of them, it would take very little to make the transitions a little smoother.
I think Joss did this deliberately. At least in the pilot (the real one that didn't air until the last broadcast) after a shot of the Reavers' ship he wanted a pause for tension. He said they couldn't have 2 seconds of black, because the computers would automatically cut to commercial. How he got by this is he used the darkest gray that wouldn't trigger the cue for commercial.
And one of these days, I will figure out whether Inara or Kaylee is hotter.
I guess that depends on whether you like geek girls. Kaylee is clearly a geek. And she looks hot with engine grease on her face.
Official Firefly Board (Score:2, Informative)
[prospero.com]
http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly
This was the official Fox board, and is now run by Mutant Enemy.
Firefly (Score:5, Informative)
Take any western and change the indians to aliens. Changes the horses and stagecoaches to spaceships. Presto! You have instant sci-fi. I felt that way through exactly one episode. By the third one, I was hooked on an amazing show.
It looks to me like someone at Fox wanted to sink the show. You run it on Friday night (kiss of death), show the worst episode first, and then don't bother to show the first episode until much later in the season.
Re:Firefly (Score:2)
Re: Firefly (Score:2)
> I never got past the 'Western in space' problem. Great actors, good stories, but why bother with the spaceships? The combination of hi and lo tech just looked silly - it was like ... spaceships landing in the wild west and being met with men on horses. It was an inconsistent and totally implausible view of the future.
Less plausible than the usual fare, where heros scoot around the galaxy fighting monsters that have evolved to seduce starship captains and eat their ships?
Re:Firefly (Score:4, Interesting)
Perhaps you should go see Star Wars again. In a galaxy of high tech laser blasters, the Tusken Raiders used still used bullets. Just because technology has advanced a great deal doesn't mean that everyone has access to it.
As for horses, they would be very handy in a place without an abundant supply of oil or uranium for fuel, like those colonies on the outer planets, for example. Animals find their own fuel, repair and reproduce on their own, are able to return to home base autonomously, and have built-in safety mechanisms that prevent them from say, running off a cliff. Plus, they can come in handy in some other tight spots--again from Star Wars, anyone remember those Tontons?
"The idea that they may have invented cool lasers but not everybody can afford them is sort of the premise on which we work. Lasers take you to a science-fiction place that I feel has been covered too much." - Joss Whedon
In the future, horses won't exist? (Score:4, Insightful)
How so?
We have supersonic planes, and people travelling on donkeys right now.
I have personally been on a jet plane and then met people who were actually travelling on horseback soon after: They were vacheros in Mexico (cowboys) bringing their cattle to a corrida.
By your logic, this is impossible, because if people can use a plane or an helicopter, then they will not plausibly choose to use horses instead.
Well, you know what? Only horse could have taken them the way they went, uneven terrain, over hills and through streams and jungle (They were taking those cows to a small fishing village, deep in the middle of nowhere). The horses find their own fuel on the way, snaking on plants, driking water. No modern vehicle would have done...none that mexicans in the cattle-care buisness could afford.
So yeah, in the future, just like today, people from rich countries (planets) will use high-tech vehicles (jet plane/jet-engine equipped spaceship) to go meet people in poor countries (planets) who can only afford low-tech, self-replicating, biodegradable, edible, semi-autonomous self-refuling transportation.
I wish my car could go fuel up by itself...then again, it runs much faster.
Re:Firefly (Score:3, Interesting)
Well these companies have yet to develop self-repairing and self-fueling tractors. Let alone those who's "exhaust" acts as a fertilizer.
In the case of serious damage or breakdown there is a lot more meat on an ox than a tractor.
Re:Firefly (Score:3, Informative)
Can't find the Season 2 .torrent!!! (Score:3, Interesting)
Why the SciFi network doesn't pick it up and replace "Gorgol: The Betrayal", "Extreme Black: The Evil Within" and their other crappy shows with colons in them - I do not know.
Like a shining jewel (Score:2)
Firefly was a late bloomer (Score:3, Interesting)
So I rented it just to see what all the hub bub was about. As I watched the first two parter, I was thinking, no wonder this got cancelled, it's kinda boring. But I forced myself to finish watching the rest of the disk.
I'm glad I did. I found that I started to care what happened to each character as I watched more episodes. While I was indifferent at first, by the time I wrapped up Disk 4, I was almost solemnly putting the disk back in its sleeve to mail back to Netflix.
It's a good show and worth giving it the time to win you over. Too bad Fox didn't do that. I don't think it'll come back as a series again, certainly not on Fox, but they are working on a movie (probably TV movie).
So what's the deal about good SciFi shows getting cancelled? Farscape was a fantastic show, certainly worthy of more seasons. I think Firefly had some longevity to it, too. Just think, if they hadn't given Buffy more than 13 episodes... There'd be no Witchblade, no Dark Angel, no Bird of Prey, no ActionSciFi Show with buttkicking chicks!
Asd they say, it takes money to make money. Be willing to give these shows a chance!
FWIW, for So Cal Slashdot readers... (Score:4, Informative)
Firefly was sci-fi that dared to be political... (Score:5, Insightful)
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"Firefly's greatest transgressions against the modern American Statist Quo, however, were in my estimation twofold and related...this was not the mindlessly smarmy "optimistic" vision of the future that is Star Trek...Firefly, in its way, was, in this post 9-11 climate, almost downright seditious. The Alliance enforcers--the "bad guys"--were called "Feds." The attempt to unite and homogenize people was seen, by Firefly, as not a "good" thing...nor do most people agree with Captain Reynolds' words, "The government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."...Do not think that Firefly was not drawing allusions and parallels to our own society and its attendant beliefs, or that this implicit criticism went unnoticed by the powers-that-be...But most of all, living "beyond the law" as Reynolds and his crew had to, the moral universe of Firefly depended not on the "rule of law," but on its much-maligned and deliberately-misunderstood alternative, the rule of honor...And Firefly made the case...for the ultimate superiority of the rule of honor over the rule of law--at least...For you see, the rule of honor demands what law must defer: individual responsibility, personal culpability, what is fair and what is just, of every man (and woman) who lives by it.
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Un-aired episodes a let down (Score:2, Informative)
And I wasn't disappointed..not at all. It delivered everything I wanted it to be. Best series on TV in decades.
I pre-ordered my DVD set the first day it was available at Amazon (months ago). I finished watching the whole thing 2 days after I got it. (working days even)
I cried du
Prediction: (Score:2)
An example of what to expect (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:An example of what to expect (Score:2, Informative)
The scene starts with the henchman on his knees, hands bound. Mal (the captain) waves a wad of cash in his face, says, "This is all the money Niska paid us." (Niska's the bad guy.) "I want you to take it back, 'cause we're square now."
Henchman gives a lengthy, spit-filled speech about how they'll never be square, how no matter where they hide or how far they run, he'll find them.
Mal winds up and kicks the henchman into the engine.
Immediately the second-henchman-in-comman
Watched 'em already. :) (Score:5, Insightful)
The reason I liked the series is because it shows that there is nothing new under the sun. People in the future will remain people, with all their faults and flaws. Long after we're gone people will still be killing each other, stealing from each other, trying to rule, trying to escape, trying to make a living. I believe Firefly went far beyond many science fiction stories in portraying this. Far too many sci-fi shows are utopian in nature, and with the notable exception of Babylon 5, nearly all of them fall into this trap. Slavery existed before, and still exists today. It is unlikely that this particular scourge will be eliminated totally in the future and may make a return. Likewise, the related concept of indentured servitude is one which make make a comback, for better or worse. People tend to dwell on the evil of slavery while forgetting that indenturing allowed the Americas to be colonized. And, as happened before the line between them became blurred, and this was portrayed (a little) in the show. The whole concept of migration, colonization, rebellion, and pacification were used as setting. For a television show, this is unusally broad.
Firefly showed the good with the bad, in that of the individual as well as the whole of humanity. The characters, of course, are no exception. They each have positive and negative traits, show weakness at times as well as strength. Furthermore, they showed different kinds of weaknesses and strenghts, where most science fiction and fantasy tend to ascribe one key skill and fatal flaw per character. Spock had a heroically big brain or Heracles had heroically big muscles. Characters on Firefly were not necessarily good at things one would expect. Sure, they had their skills, but there were nuances, suprises even. How many times on Star Trek did Wesley solve a science problem or Worf handled a matter of honor. (As an aside let me say to Wil if he reads my post I hold him blameless. He didn't write the character) One thing that Whedon is good at doing is taking television characters in unexpected directions. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, bet at least he is unafraid to change his characters through the story.
The technology in Firefly is another aspect which contrasts it from other science fiction stories. Some stories are all about the technology, often Star Trek fell into this, and others the technology is not the story at all. My example there would be Star Wars which is more fantasy than sci-fi. Firefly walked a different path, showing different levels of technology used by different people. On Star Trek the Feds have one level of technology and science, some worlds are more primitive, and some mysterious races possess more. Firefly wasn't afraid to show that people would natually have more or less. More or less money and resources, and theremore more or less fancy tech. There are haves and have-nots, and sometimes the most sophisticated technology is not the most reliable.
Lastly, I would like to say a science fiction show absent of aliens is a treat. Turning humans into monsters shows unusual insight into the human condition. That humans could become aliens has been explored, but its nice to see a television show reach new, or rarely trod ground.
All of this adds up to a uniquely entertaining show. I rarely make time for television, but I found myself eagerly waiting for Firefly to come on. I wish the Sci-Fi Channel would pick it up, but alas, it is now the Stargate Channel.
GREAT series. (Score:2)
9 faces looking into the black, seeing 9 things (Score:2, Insightful)
9 faces looking into the black, seeing 9 different things, July 23, 2003
Reviewer: Blair A. Petterson
I despise television. I even gave it up last year, and now only see a few shows a friend and I watch together. "The West Wing". "24". "Buffy the Vampire Slayer".
Until last fall. Then I saw "Firefly", named somewhat whimsically about a cargo ship whose end lights up when it accelerates. But this is no flashy fu
Ok, WT!??!!1! (Score:2)
Scuse me bud - which way to Tarsus? (Score:2)
hmm lets see - owner/operator of starship crewed with dodgy geezers picks up passengers, and cargoes, buys and sells goods, smuggles and engages in the odd heist...
I wonder how many of the episode plots can be found in "76 Patrons"
I liked it - shame they canned it so early. I think it needed some deeper mystery or binding plotline though - the episodes were too standalone - apart from the psycho woman and brother's search for a cure there was very li
Such great dialogue (Score:2, Funny)
Preacher, don't the Bible have some
pretty specific things to say about
killing?
BOOK (the Shepard):
Quite specific.
(beat)
It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on
the subject of kneecaps.
Now that is some funy dialogue.
Personally i loved the show, but didn't see it until this DVD release. I wish I had, of course it wouldn't have made a differnence since I am not a Neilson family. FOX were morons, but at least it looks like Universal might do a film, though hopef
Re:Name? (Score:2)
Tell him what he's won, Johnny!
Re:Name? (Score:2)
So called "editors"...
Re:Name? (Score:2)
Insightful? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Insightful? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Insightful? (Score:3, Insightful)
But you are right 'It sucked' is not an insightfull comment. If they gace some reason, then it could be insightfull.
Re:Insightful? (Score:2)
Ok, like some others responding to you I have to grant that "it sucked" is hardly insightful.
On the other hand saying someone who didn't like it must be too used to crap to enjoy it is roughly about the same amount of "dumb as fuck" as the guy you're replying to.
Firefly did not do anything for me either. It doesn't mean I don't know good SciFi when I see it. It simply was not my cup of tea. I did see some good things there, I just didn't care much for the show overall. I think Joss got stretched pre
Re:Insightful? (Score:2)
Except for the fact that the "train robbery" WAS THE FIRST FRICKN EPISODE! Not to mention that it was made in a hurry to please the Fox producers because they didn't want to air the pilot. I'll bet you never even watched another episode.
The truth is that many of the episodes use more technologically advanced set
Re:What's so good about Firefly? (Score:2, Funny)
I saw a couple of episodes. They go something like this:
Hero: Howdy, miss. What's th' problem?
Damsel: That evil Mr. Villian tied me to the railway tracks until my Pa gave 'im the deed to our ranch!
Hero: Why that good-fer-nuttin.. let me get my laser blaster from my space ship and tan his flea-bitten hide!
Re:What's so good about Firefly? (Score:2)
There were at least two laser blasters. The one carried by the villain in 'Heart of Gold' and a second one in 'Trash' that was mentioned again in 'The Message'. To be fair these were the unaired episodes...
Re:What's so good about Firefly? (Score:5, Informative)
2. Amazing story development
3. Best special effects, bar none
4. A space captain who isn't a wus. (e.g. In the pilot, a bad guy is holding the teenage girl captive while evil space cannibals are approaching. The captain arrives in the middle of the hostage situation, and instead of negotiating, he - without missing a step - simply shoots the guy, picks up his body and throws it out the rear cargo entrance so they can take off.)
5. NO FSCKING "techno babble". No bloody deflector dishes, transporters, hyperspace gizmos, exotic particles, gravity wave engines or anything else.
6. No sound in space.
7. Soft title music that gets stuck in your head and won't let go.
8. An interesting back-story. (e.g. the episode "Out of Gas")
9. You can't take the sky from me...
Go to suprnova.org (no typo) and download "Our Dear Mrs. Reynolds". You'll be hooked, I guarantee.
Re:What's so good about Firefly? (Score:3, Insightful)
for this alone it deserves recognition. Every other sci-fi show or movie out there has the do the big laser battles thing. Every single one tosses physics out the window so they can have Tie-Fighters screaming by and super big explosions. Firefly alone does a space battle the way it should be done. Untterly quiet and creepy. The scene from 'Our Mr. Reynolds' with Jayne firing his gun inside of a spare spacesuit (Because duh, explosions require oxygen) was awesome.
Throw on top of th
Guns in space (Score:3, Interesting)
To be chemicaly acurate firing a gun in space would require no oxygen from outside, as the gun powder contains its own oxidizer (in fact on most guns there is an air tight seal around the bullet and casing. In fact all high explosives require no external oxygen. Most explosives work by freeing nitrogen from an unstable compound and from it forming N2 gas and a bunch of thermal energy.
firing a gun in spa
Re:Guns in space (Score:3, Interesting)
But mostly because it was Jane that did it, and Jane doesn't know about nitrogen and oxidizers.
What he knows is that a gun is a fire arm, and that fire needs air.
Jane isn't book smart,
Re:Guns in space (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:What's so good about Firefly? (Score:2)
Except the inner planets of the Alliance, one of which was shown in 'Ariel'. That was a very high tech planet. Now Serenity doesn't go there often due to the abundance of law enforcement :)
Or the resort planet for the very rich shown in 'Trash'. Airborn floating islands with mansions on them is hardly midwest America circa 1850.
Re:What's so good about Firefly? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's a sci-fi show that isn't. It doesn't feature grand space battles or bumpy headed aliens of the week. Instead it has great dialogue, character development, a tight-knit cast, and *gasp* continuity. Contrast this with Star Trek.
That's what we have the internet for!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Just make more episodes and sell DVDs on ebay!
Re:Why??? (Score:5, Insightful)
It worked for Star Trek.
Re:Why??? (Score:2)
We can find out for sure next december, when Family Guy comes back to air after it sold 1M+ volume 1 DVDs.
Re:Ill fated? (Score:3, Insightful)
What are your criteria for a science fiction series to be "good"?
Personally I thought Firefly was an excellent series. It had interesting characters with complex motivations and interactions, good pacing, beautiful sets, gratuitous violence, and an intriguing and believeable universe. I'm somewhat baffled as to how anyone could seriously characterize it as "juvenile Saturday morning" given all of these elements.
If you're not just a troll
Re:Ill fated? (Score:2)
The original post suggests that the adjective "ill-fated" is inappropriate, because it implies that the show met a fate it didn't deserve, and suggests instead "doomed", implying that it had no chance.
That sentence basically says "If the show hadn't sucked (was more than juvenile), we could call it ill-fated". The implication is that we shouldn't call it ill-fated, because it was not "more than juvenile Saturday morning" fare.
I respect
Re:Ill fated? (Score:2)
It also involved a lot of THOUGHT into the mental processes of the assorted aliens, something that trek has never bothered t
Re:Ill fated? (Score:2)
Garibaldi was played by Jerry Doyle. I agree. The first 1.5 seasons kinda sucked. Whenever a friend wants to start watching the show, I encourage them. I also warn them that the first season and a half will make them wonder why they are doing it. But it is very important that they start there since there are a few things set up that are important later in the series. Once you make it to season 2, episode 9: The Coming of Shadows, THAT'S when things get interesting. The pace picks up and things don't really
Re:watched disc 1 last night (Score:3, Interesting)
I expect they'll actually start doing this very soon now, especially for "much anticipated series premieres" and so forth. It's a good way to rope in the viewers. (In fact, didn't they already do this with the season premiere of 24?)
The downside? Forget commercials -- you're now going to see more and
Re:watched disc 1 last night (Score:2)
The idea that such placement would be worse than separate annoying commercials is just silly to me. After all, they've still got to make the shows entertaining (to someone), even with the product placement, or nobody will watch.
Re:A Word of Caution (Score:2)
Seriously, though... I got the DVD set and have watched the entire series already. I only had one glitch someplace on the 3rd disk where I had to fast-forward past a small bit of dialogue at the beginning of Trash in order for it to not jump back to the start of the episode. I just assumed it was maybe a minor scratch or perhaps a hair or something fell under the disc when I dropped it in the pl
Re:Great news! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Unaired... (Score:2)
Re:Not all that good..... (Score:2)
I'm legitimately curious, so please let me know.
P.S. A quick scan of the posted comments s
Re:Not all that good..... (Score:2)
I'm not the original poster (obviously) but I also found it not all that good. It wasn't "all that bad" either though. I've been trying to figure out why I didn't like about it or what threw me since I watched it but I was out after three episodes. My wife (both of us watched the hell out of Buffy and still watch Angel) was the same way.
The dialog didn't grab me the same way the better writing on Joss's other two shows did (admittedly not every episode has/had "better writing") and I never warmed up mu