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Shatner May Return to Star Trek (Briefly?) 513

Posted by simoniker from the to-boldly-go dept.
mfh writes "Apparently, William Shatner may return to Star Trek, after talks with studio executives for a cameo on the fourth season of Star Trek: Enterprise. Rick Berman did not disclose which role wants Shatner play, although I'm sure we'd all love to see Captain James Tiberius Kirk again, right?"
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  • No. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:02AM (#9228215)
    No.

    • Re:No. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Ankle ( 633399 ) <jan,pingel&me,com> on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:04AM (#9228410) Homepage
      I. Whole. Heartily. Agree. With. You. If. There. Is. A. God. Hopefully. This. Won't. Happen. As. I. Could. Never. Stand. The. Torture. Of. His. Dialog.

    • Re:No. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Epistax ( 544591 ) <epistax@gmaiAAAl.com minus threevowels> on Sunday May 23, 2004 @07:01AM (#9229002) Journal
      They could make him into a reoccuring side character who gets killed in every episode. Give him a taste of his own medicine.

      </omg they killed shatner>

    • Re:No. (Score:5, Funny)

      by bokmann ( 323771 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @09:45AM (#9229612) Homepage
      That post says it all... I wish it could be modereated higher than 5.

      In some UPN Boardroom:

      Lackey #1: Uh, sir, there were 42593 people who voted on a popular geek message board, simply said "no" to the whole Kirk on Enterprise deal.

      Guy with Cigar: Huh? Those nerds love him, don't they? Why wouldn't they want him back?

      Lackey #2: Best we could do dir is bring him back as his own great-grandfather, or maybe as a completely unrelated villian.

      Guy with Cigar: But... TIME TRAVEL! TIME TRAVLEL! The WHOLE FUCKING SERIES IS ABOUT TIME TRAVEL! I don't understand... they loved the Next Gen episode with the previous Enterprise from the rift-thing... They loved the DS9 episode with the tribbles, why wouldn't they want Kirk back?

      Lackey #1: He's too old and fat, sir.

      Lackey number #2 nods, almost unfraid to make eye contact.

      Guy with Cigar: "Oh. Well, what else did they say? Maybe we could use this to our advantage..."

      Lackey #2: Well, sir, the next highest comment was "I can't believe you still watch Trek. Why is it that Trek can go forever while shows like Firefly and the one with all the muppets on Sci-Fi get cancelled?"

      Lackey #1: From there, the conversation degenerated to the Sci-Fi's remake of Battlestar Galactica.

      Guy with Cigar: I see... the nerds have abandonded us... maybe we should abandon them. (Picks up Phone) "Jane? Get me Wil Smith on the phone... I want to see if he wants to help produce a new idea I just had... Moesha - the Next Generation."

      • Re:No. (Score:3, Funny)

        by Phurd Phlegm ( 241627 )

        They loved the DS9 episode with the tribbles, why wouldn't they want Kirk back?

        Lackey #1: He's too old and fat, sir.

        That gives me an idea. He comes back as a disembodied head! Of course, they couldn't get away with the whole Futurama floating-in-a-jar thing (which is a consistent theme of Dr. Fun [ibiblio.org], by the way), but surely they could work up some kind of thing where we find out he's the King Borg or something. It's not like consistency is a major concert in the franchise . . . they can always end up

  • Uh oh (Score:4, Funny)

    by Dizzle ( 781717 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:03AM (#9228218) Journal
    I... don't know if... this... is a good... idea!

    • Re:Uh oh (Score:5, Funny)

      by msobkow ( 48369 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:24AM (#9228297) Homepage Journal

      Well, it looks like Enterprise is pre-announcing their "Jump the Shark" episode.

      Oh well, it was good while it lasted.

      • Re:Uh oh (Score:4, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:38AM (#9228332)
        No, no it wasn't.

      • Re: Jumping the Shark (Score:5, Insightful)

        by MastrTek ( 751118 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:45AM (#9228361)
        This series jumped the shark on the pilot episode. The rancid violation of Star Trek canon rampant through this series (i.e.: Romulan Cloaking Devices, The Borg, physical appearance of the Klingons) have completely killed this series, because nothing makes sense anymore. I refuse to watch it, I wish it would get cancelled, and I don't know if I'll ever watch anything having to do with Star Trek again while it's in the hands of CBS. The whole franchise has been going on a progressively downward trend in terms of creative ideas since about halfway through ST:Voyager.

        • Re: Jumping the Shark (Score:5, Interesting)

          by 0x0d0a ( 568518 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:05AM (#9228412) Journal
          I haven't really ever watched a Voyager episode that I enjoyed. I quickly gave up on it. I've yet to watch an Enterprise episode. Just kind of lost interest due to Voyager. It was kind of a touchy-feely politically correct show rather than the frequent examination of philosophical problems that came up in the earlier Treks.

          I did generally like TNG and DS9, though. Never watched much of The Original Trek.

          I don't really understand why people get so rabid about Star Trek in general, though. It's reasonably fun to watch, yes. It elevates the status of science (well, at least pseudoscience, but one can generally put a plausible interpretation on things) and engineering, which is not very common in the media. There was some good acting -- I really do like Patrick Stewart. The makeup is *very* good. It's interesting to see positive predictions about the future -- a *lot* of movies seem to go in for futuristic dystopias. Finally, for such a long-running set of series, things didn't get too formulaic -- there was definitely good writing.

        • Re: Jumping the Shark (Score:3, Informative)

          by urmensch ( 314385 )
          Aha!

          There is an explanation for TOS klingons.
          Tight budget and bad FX.

          Fucking Andorians antennae didn't move in TOS though ;)

        • Re: Jumping the Shark (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 23, 2004 @03:19AM (#9228598)
          he rancid violation of Star Trek canon rampant through this series

          The original series paid no attention to canon, so who cares? They couldn't even keep straight a Romulan versus a Klingon ship, or the name of the planetary federation.

          From what I've heard, most of the "canon" broken was never canon to begin with, and only implied in technical manuals, novels and so on. I wouldn't call myself a "trekkie", but I've seen every Star Trek and Next Generation, and I haven't seen anything ridiclous on Enterprise. It's actually cool to see Andorians and non-2D Vulcans.
        • Canon was invented by obsessive Trekkie fans, not by writers and directors. It ain't real, you know.

          As someone has said, get a life.

        • Re: Jumping the Shark (Score:4, Informative)

          by Planesdragon ( 210349 ) <slashdot&castlesteelstone,us> on Sunday May 23, 2004 @09:29AM (#9229461) Homepage Journal
          This series jumped the shark on the pilot episode.

          *sigh*

          Let me say this again--you probably missed the last four or five times I said it on /.

          Enterprise is NOT a prequel to the other four Treks. It's the series that is latest in the timeline, we're just seeing it from a faulty perspective. The Federation won, conquered every threat they had, and achieved time travel--and we're seeing their latest conflict from a POV that we can better emphasize with.

          I can sum up the current conflict for you, with oodles of spoilers, and you can tell me how creative you think it is.

          A race of aliens, similiar to the wormhole entities of DS9, are using a network of spheres to alter our reality. The far-future Federation was more than capable of defeating these aliens, so the aliens have convinced a five-species "race" known as the Xindi that Earth is a threat, so that the Federation can be undone by a historical cascade.

          To counter the Xindi, the temporal Federation alters the timeline by having the NX-01 not be destroyed, but rather explore the galaxy earlier than had otherwise happened.

          As for your other complaints--Romulan Cloaking Devices have, IIRC, always existed as far as the canon cares (a few novels notwithstanding), the Klingons have always looked they way they look (a non-canon explanation from Star Fleet Battles is that the Klingons TV-Kirk fought were human/klingon hybrids), and the Borg were logical effects of the assault from First Contact.

          Time Travel isn't an afterthought for Enterprise or a gimick. It's essential to the metaplot of the series, and it's easily as creative as TNG, DS9, or Voyager. (Moreso, even, considering that no one else has ever done quite this setup on TV.)

          I mean, heck, they have the guy from Quantum Leap as captain--you don't think that's a little bit of a clue that time travel is important to the show?
          • Without getting into your theory about Enterprise and where it sits in the whole Trek scheme of things I think that no, the Romulan cloaking device has not always existed.

            It was introduced to the Federation in Balance of Terror for the first time. This is made very clear.

            Since Enterprise is supposed to predate TOS it's badly out of place. The rest of it (Klingon appearance, Borg showing up) I have almost no concern with. The cloaking device thing though's just plain wrong.

      • Re:Uh oh (Score:3, Insightful)

        by istewart ( 463887 ) *
        No, it wasn't.

    • Re:Uh oh (Score:5, Funny)

      by katchins ( 180997 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:25AM (#9228302) Homepage
      I wonder how long into the episode before he sleeps with T'Pol or Sato.
    • No idea of Rick Berman's ever is. He has single handidly run Star Trek in the ground.

      Can we have Majel Barrett take over operations, as her sci-fi productions have been quality.

    • Re:Uh oh (Score:5, Funny)

      by Joe the Lesser ( 533425 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:26AM (#9228306) Homepage Journal
      We

      Must warp

      Now

      Engage

      The engines now

      Spock!

      *Waves hands randomly*

  • A little old? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by AJWM ( 19027 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:03AM (#9228219) Homepage
    Wouldn't Shatner be just a little old to play Kirk in the "Enterprise" era?

    • Re:A little old? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Piquan ( 49943 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:07AM (#9228241)
      They've been playing with a lot of time travel stuff.
    • Not with a little bit of magic we like to call 'lasy script writers'

      In this episode we have post-Undescovered Country era Kirk, warped into the past via the TEMPERAL COLD WAR to tell Archer that, due to his interference, Kirk never commanded the Enterprise and is now the elderly butler of Chancelor Kelrongolumpha. We get to see touching moments like when Archer tells him to go to hell, thus condeming our former hero to a life serving in HomeEc- just one more change Archer's made in the future timeline.

    • Re:A little old? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Rosyna ( 80334 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:32AM (#9228316) Homepage
      No. In Generations (before he died) he was trapped in the ribbon. In the ribbon time did not exist and if you had the will to, you could exit at any point in time. So could could come out with Whoopi Goldberg, kick some ass then go back in the ribbon to come out in generations.

      Personally, I just want a Q plot line.
      • I liked Q better when he was short, green, and called the Great Gazoo.

    • Re:A little old? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Prof.Phreak ( 584152 )
      He can play the great-great-great-grand father of Kirk...

      Of course, in theory, nobody will care who he is or who his children will become... but with all those time traveling weirdos, they can think of some story line of where he has to save himself (and the enterprise), so that his grand children father Kirk... or something.

      oh... and KHAAAAAN!!! could also be part of the story... :-)

  • A new dose of life! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by psi42 ( 747491 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:04AM (#9228223)
    IMHO the new Star Trek, as of late, has fallen into an old formula that is fast making me lose interest.

    Bringing back James Kirk could breathe new life back into the series: after all, that's how it all started. Even just William Shatner playing someone else might do the trick.

    We need old blood more than new blood. :D

    • Re:A new dose of life! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Dunkelzahn ( 106055 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:10AM (#9228260) Homepage
      If I had points, I would mod you insightful. I personally started to lose interest with Deep Space Nine, and then my interest went six feet under with Voyager. Seeing what I have of Enterprise, they have deviated far from the continuity of the Star Trek franchise that was established in the original series and Next Generation years (Romulan cloaking devices a century before Kirk? First contact with the Klingons before the Federation even existed? Xindi? Come on!)

      The only thing that would save this show would be to cancel the show and have a final episode where an Ensign Daniels walked out of a holodeck on Enterprise-D, to be railed on about historical inconsistencies by Data.

      I don't recognize any of the movies after First Contact either, so forget about B-4.

    • Re:A new dose of life! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by The Fanta Menace ( 607612 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:20AM (#9228284) Homepage

      Of late? Star Trek has been formulaic ever since TNG hit the screens. Just watching reruns of Voyager, you can see the same patterns over and over again, that were in TNG, DS9 and the original.

      Meanwhile, truely groundbreaking and interesting programs like Firefly only last for one series before being axed :(

      • Re:A new dose of life! (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Stween ( 322349 )
        ...you can see the same patterns over and over again, that were in TNG, DS9 and the original.

        It's true. But of all the series, I've grown to like DS9 more than the others. For one, at the start of the series they were in this clapped out station, and certainly weren't in the same position of power the previous series had seen the central characters in. The later series had story arcs - imagine that! A story that was really carried from episode to episode. No other series has had that (well, Voyager had a

    • Re:A new dose of life! - completely new.. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by cbreaker ( 561297 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:26AM (#9228307) Journal
      They need to replace the entire cast (sans T'Pol of course) with new actors.

      I originally thought that Scott Bacula would make a good captian, but he doesn't. All his dialogue seems forced. The first officer is even more annoying; he's a terrible actor and the character doesn't help him out any being a country bumpkin mechanic/first officer/chief engineer.

      They could probably get away with holding on to some of the of the cast, but they need to change the characters quite a bit. The crew of the ship is supposed to be like a Navy ship, that's what the heirarchy is supposed to mirror. These characters are so unprofessional that they would all be kicked out of the Navy in a moment. Now, I know it's the future and everything is all roses but c'mon..

      In The Next Generation, the crew was definately more loose then the US navy, but you definately had more of a feel of the chain of command and the characters behaved like the officers they were.

      I'm just not interested in these characters. They have very little depth. You don't feel as though you know them at all, even after a few years of being on the air.

      Maybe I just miss the Picard/Riker duo. Or maybe it's because ever since UPN took over Star Trek it just hasn't been good. Voyager wasn't that good, and neither is this one. It also doesn't help that UPN puts in commercials every 4 minutes. TNG and DS9 were both very good shows, from the pre-UPN era.

      Oh well. They will just never be able to bring back the quality and popularity of TNG. TNG was once the most popular TV show on the planet; Enterprise does all it can do just to stay on the air.
      • They could probably get away with holding on to some of the of the cast, but they need to change the characters quite a bit. The crew of the ship is supposed to be like a Navy ship, that's what the heirarchy is supposed to mirror. These characters are so unprofessional that they would all be kicked out of the Navy in a moment. Now, I know it's the future and everything is all roses but c'mon..

        Think of them as more like the the army air force test pilots. Ever seen "the right stuff"? Those guys were a li
    • >>IMHO the new Star Trek, as of late, has fallen
      >>into an old formula that is fast making me lose
      >>interest. Bringing back James Kirk could breathe
      >>new life back into the series:

      The only problem with bringing back Kirk is that it will, by necessity, involve yet another freakin' time-warp episode. This is, by definition, more of the same ol' crap. There's an entire rich and diverse world of sci-fi literature out there that doesn't involve time travel that is just waiting to be ri

  • Hmmmmm.....Priceline...... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:04AM (#9228228)
    How much would *you* pay to see him on Star Trek again?
    • The question is "How much would I pay to keep Shatner OUT of the show, thus killing any thoughts of a headache inducing 'time singularity/distortion/graviton flux' plot-line?"

      I say we toast the cast of Enterprize with some Iocaine powder.

  • ancestor... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by IronMagnus ( 777535 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:05AM (#9228230)
    If anything, he should play Kirk's great (great?) grandfather or however it works out...

  • Urrrr... (Score:5, Funny)

    by xxx_Birdman_xxx ( 676056 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:05AM (#9228231)
    although I'm sure we'd all love to see Captain James Tiberius Kirk again, right?"

    As much as I'd like to see my grandma appear on new episodes of Baywatch...

  • Overlay (Score:2)

    by rf0 ( 159958 )
    How about if they tried to get the crew of DS9 + TOS + Enterprise in something like Trial And Tribulations? OK it would be overkill but would make for a classic episode

  • Final Nail in the Coffin (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:08AM (#9228249)
    Don't they know anything? Nothing pisses off a geek more than errors in continuity...

    ...bug the hell out of me.

  • My thoughts: (Score:4, Funny)

    by jm92956n ( 758515 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:09AM (#9228252) Journal
    I'm all for it, so long as he sits on a stool and sings some lame ass song about how to best go about finding inexpensive airfare.

    Oh, wait...
  • She's Dead Jim. Jim, She's Dead. Dammit Jim I'm a doctor not a ..... RIP Deforest Kelley.

    • Re:Bring back Bones instead! (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      There's Klingons off the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow, there's Klingons off the starboard bow, starboard bow, Jim!

      They'll bring him back, but.. at what.. cost?

  • Good for him (Score:4, Insightful)

    by 4b696e67 ( 670803 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:10AM (#9228259)
    He may not be the best actor, but I always thought he did ok in Star Trek. He seems like a duck out of water in anything else. I'm sure he would want his retiring role to be Star Trek instead of commercials. ...now if they could only get Nimoy.

  • Why bring back kirk? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Veramocor ( 262800 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:12AM (#9228265)
    Why bring back Kirk when you could bring back evil mirror kirk.

    And quasi-evil goati wearing evil spock too!

  • Technobabble (Score:5, Funny)

    by ChilyMack ( 720195 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:15AM (#9228277)
    "No, sir, he's really just 18 - distortions in the space-time continuum have made dashing young Kirk look old and chubby and act like a condescending travel spokesman."

  • I'm looking forward to seeing Shatner (Score:4, Interesting)

    by koreth ( 409849 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:17AM (#9228278)
    ...but not on Star Trek. He's one of the regulars on next season's "Fleet Street" on ABC, a spinoff of "The Practice." I was never much for courtroom dramas, but I tuned in to see Shatner's guest role toward the end of the just-concluded season -- and kept tuning in week after week until the end. His role on that show must have been written with him in mind; it fits his acting style absolutely perfectly, and it's funny as hell. (James Spader and Rebecca de Mornay aren't bad either.) If "Fleet Street" can maintain anywhere near the goofiness and energy level of the last several "Practice" episodes, it'll be a must-see, and a few years from now it'll be what anyone under 20 thinks of when the name William Shatner comes up.

  • It could work... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by voss ( 52565 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:22AM (#9228291)
    Get Leonard Nimoy to direct the episode.

    Shatner can play Kirk's great-grandfather...

    He doesnt have to be the young sex symbol anymore, he can be an old space dog.

  • In this economy (Score:4, Funny)

    by taped2thedesk ( 614051 ) * on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:23AM (#9228293)
    "I'm sure we'd all love to see Captain James Tiberius Kirk again, right?"

    Well, he needs the work since he was fired from Priceline.com. [clickz.com]

    The fact that he's found new work so quickly is a sure sign that the economy really is on the rebound...

  • Okay this is kind of off topic but anyway... My impression of STTNG was that it was pretty modern but then recently started watching it more frequently ever since getting a Tivo. I then realize that the first episode of STTNG came around 16 years ago! I look at many of the early episodes and it just looks so odd. There are people with afro hair cuts and women in short-short skirts like in The Original Star Trek. Geordi is not even the chief engineer... there are all these "nobodys" in engineering. The comm

  • Please don't .. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by SirFlakey ( 237855 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @01:38AM (#9228337) Homepage
    Please don't bring him back - don't get me wrong, Kirk was good in the original enterprise but for show that is seeking new funding to survive past the next half of season four and is competing with all those zillion reality shows - the last thing we need is Shatner giving yet another re-rendition of a character that he theoretically should be too old to play.

    Enterprise is my favorite star trek franchise series don't mess it up please !

  • Pity or Annoyance? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Bill_Royle ( 639563 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:03AM (#9228405)
    I don't think Shatner's been much good at anything since his wife died [eonline.com]. Frankly, I don't blame him... if my wife died, I'd probably be a bit aimless as well.

    All of that said, Shatner's milked the Star Trek thing long enough. Milking a role 10 years after a show ends might be ok for awhile, but the original Star Trek has been gone for a LONG time. The Johnny Carson show was as good as Star Trek, but you don't see Carson showing up everytime someone opens the curtains.

    He's had a full life - he should stop embarrassing himself. There's nothing unique about a 1-role actor. He's a nice guy, but really... bury the role, and try something else.
    • All of that said, Shatner's milked the Star Trek thing long enough.

      Actually, if you ever see him interviewed, he wishes people would stop talking about Star Trek.

      There's nothing unique about a 1-role actor.

      That's the thing - he feels totally trapped by the Kirk role. He wishes that a) he could do something else and b) people would want to talk about anything else he's done. It's not fair to him to suggest he's "milking" his role as Kirk, I think he almost wishes he'd never taken it.

  • This gives me an idea!! (Score:4, Funny)

    by ImTwoSlick ( 723185 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:06AM (#9228417)
    Let's cast Lucas as an Ewok who gets sliced in half and falls into the lava during the lava surfing scene!

  • What Enterprise Needs... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pico303 ( 187769 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:22AM (#9228453)
    I had nothing but high hopes for Enterprise when it came on the air. Maybe I expected too much, but how about storylines leading in the direction of the founding of the Federation? I think they could do some very interested stories about meeting new alien races, overcoming cultural differences, and moving on towards a confederacy of planets.

    While I didn't like the ongoing story line this past season, they could turn it around (noticed a little of that the past couple of weeks). If they bring the Xindi in as allies of the humans against the sphere builders, that could start things in the right direction for the Federation (gotta get the Vulcans involved first, though).

    I did like some of the stories this season too, especially the one about Trip's clone and the one with Archer's quantum brain injury. Very creative.
    • I, too, shared your hope.

      And I think that had I been in charge, the plots would be more cerebral and less action-packed. They basically took a bunch of characters and put them on a ship roaming the universe. This is dumb because the plot is the same every week; Go to planet, get in trouble, get out of trouble, and go to another planet.

      DS9 is rapidly becoming my favorite Trek because it has done so much with its premise. Conflicts between Bajoran and Cardassian, the politics of reconstructing a world that ha

  • A slight problem (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Stonent1 ( 594886 ) <stonent@stone[ ] ... t ['nt.' in gap]> on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:27AM (#9228470) Journal
    James T. Kirk hasn't been born yet.

  • Not as Kirk (Score:5, Insightful)

    by GrouchoMarx ( 153170 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @02:54AM (#9228531) Homepage
    Having Shatner guest star as a random alien villan is cheesy and dumb, but in the end harmless compared to the other stupidity that is Enterprise.

    Having Shatner appear as James T. Kirk would be the final straw that would have me petition to have the "Star Trek" taken back out of the show's title, the show disowned as part of the Trek franchise, and a price taken out on Rick Berman's head.

    I mean, come on. Kirk is in his what, 30s or 40s during the TOS series? Enterprise is set over a century before (early 2150s vs. late 2260s). Even with the overreliance on screwing with the timeline that Berman is so fond of, there's no way to make that work. Besides, Shatner himself is in his 70s now. He'd have to be playing an extremely old Kirk sent back in time or something. Of course, Kirk already died in Veridian III ("Generations").

    Whoever speculated that Shatner would be playing Kirk either has an even lower opinion of Berman than I do (which is saying a great deal), or is even more of a moron than Berman and Braga (which is saying even more).

  • Shatner cameo (Score:3, Insightful)

    by payndz ( 589033 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @03:55AM (#9228665)
    I'd get more enjoyment out of a five-second appearance by Shatner than I have from the last three years of what passes for Star Trek these days!

  • Come on! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by darnok ( 650458 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @04:09AM (#9228700)
    I can't believe all these people dissing BS - sorry, WS. For anyone who watched the original Star Trek as a kid, I ask you:
    - who didn't want to be Kirk, tooling around the galaxy getting it on with alien chicks in nearly every episode?
    - who didn't want to kiss Nichelle Nicholls?
    - who didn't want to fight aliens on a regular basis, always win, get the girl and only token injuries, then do it all again next week?
    - who didn't want to be boss of the Enterprise? Not some toy Apollo mission, this is the Enterprise!!!!
    - who didn't want to have Spock as a buddy? Spock, the guy who knows everything, is super strong and would *never* horn in on your action

    And, somehow, he did all this despite an almost total lack of acting ability. Even as a kid, I knew all those dialog ... pauses ... weren't the way a normal person spoke, and all that high-drama music during the fight scenes was really there to cover up the lack of credible violence. If Shatner could do all this with an obvious speech impediment, then I, a mere kid, had the universe literally at my fingertips!

    Bring him back, bring him back now. Cram the TV schedule with Shatner, and bring hope to a new generation of kiddies!

  • Traveller (Score:3, Funny)

    by m00nun1t ( 588082 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @04:31AM (#9228744) Homepage
    I'd like to see him appear as an inter-galactic travelling jester of some sort - he certainly has the musical background [penduluminc.com] to pull of someone warbling in Klingon.

  • Romulans, maybe? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by the_greywolf ( 311406 ) * on Sunday May 23, 2004 @04:53AM (#9228788) Homepage
    we're almost due for the Romulan Wars. maybe Kirk will play a Romulan that helps start the war?

    or maybe he plays a human that brings about the Romulan Wars?

    ("Star Trek Chronology" 2nd ed. places the Romulan Wars in 2156. Enterprise 3rd season ends in 2154.)

  • Yes to Shatner; No to Kirk (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jjohn ( 2991 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @07:40AM (#9229084) Homepage Journal

    Shatner is a fine actor. He always brings something to the part. I love the orginal series. However, Kirk is f*cking dead. Ditto Spock. Ditto Scotty. I wish Berman would stop masturbating about action-figure sales and put PLOT first. Tell interesting stories. Have the characters make interesting choices. KILL a few of them.

    That's a spicy meatball!

  • Hmm... (Score:5, Funny)

    by segfault7375 ( 135849 ) on Sunday May 23, 2004 @10:13AM (#9229875)
    ...Rick Berman did not disclose which role wants Shatner play, although I'm sure...

    Did Yoda get a job as a Slashdot editor when I wasn't paying attention?

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