Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow 571
Set in a mythic version of the late 1930s, this movie is a stunning tribute to classic sci-fi serials, comics and pulp magazines of that era. Starting with a reporter investigating the disappearances of top scientists, the story quickly becomes a nearly constant barrage of giant robots, aeroships, submarine planes, ray guns and retro technology on a grand scale. The plot, which hurtles across maps of the world Indiana Jones style, definitely take a back seat to the effects. The character interactions are all predictable. But all of that is consistent with the genre, and for me it didn't get in the way of enjoying the hell out of this movie.
What sets this film apart from others is that every scene was shot against a blue screen. Except for some hand props and the actors themselves, the whole thing was computer generated. We've certainly seen plenty of CG, going all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" in the 80s, but I've never seen anything done so stylishly or so well. Perhaps the hazy, murky look is perfectly suited to both the 1930s atmosphere and the current state of the art of CG. It works.
The packed screening was followed by a Q&A with director Conran, who turned out to be an impressively low-key, likable guy. He started working on the film about 10 years ago with a blue screen in his living room, wondering whether he could create an entire movie in his Mac. The first 6 minutes took him 2 years. Initially he made an animated version, which actors later used as a guide as they mimed their way through the live version. When Paramount got involved they insisted on big-name actors, so the theatrical release is actually version 3. Hopefully all three will make it onto the eventual DVD. Conran mentioned that for his next project he wants to tackle Edgar Rice Burroughs' epic John Carter series.
The presenter, a filmmaking friend of Conran's, closed the screening with a joke about Pete Townshend meeting Eric Clapton in a London bar and commiserating about some new kid named Hendrix, "who's gonna kick our asses." He imagined that Spielberg and Lucas might soon be having a similar conversation somewhere in California. I have to agree that it seems like a distinct possibility.
Thanks to serutan for this review!
I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
Pretty sure that Attack of the Clones was also shot entirely in front of a blue screen.
Re:I can think of another... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
But the reason that Anakin and Padme interacted so poorly must surely have been because the actors were filmed independently and then composited together!
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
Funny.. the first thought that came to my mind was the word "blew."
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
-bs
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I can think of another... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Interesting)
And you can tell. Up until now, I didn't know it was entirely shot in front of a blue screen, but every time I saw the commercial the thing that struck me was just how obvious the blue screen effect is. I just can't get over how awful (visually) this film looks, based on the trailer.
Re:I can think of another... (Score:5, Funny)
Just think of it as an animated film and it will all go down better. Even the parts with live actors. :)
Re:I can think of another... (Score:3, Funny)
Can't wait to see this! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Can't wait to see this! (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/skycaptai
My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Interesting)
-Jesse
Movie theatre trailer (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:4, Insightful)
From what I've read, I want to see this film, but it hasn't sparked even the remotest interest for, say, my kids - who are the ones they want, to turn this into the Star Wars of their generation.
Angelina Jolie is IMO overrated and sucktastic. The commercials feature her fat lips so prominently it looks like another wretched Tomb Raider promo.
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Funny)
I'll be in my bunk.
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:3, Insightful)
Let me know if she is going to be naked most of the time, then it'll make seeing her character worthwile.
Angelina Jolie Naked (was Re: My Impressions...) (Score:3, Insightful)
I also have to think that anyone who has dated a batshit crazy woman (ah, the good old days... when I could look beyond a woman's crumbling psyche and see the great rack inside), sees the downside in Angelina. Basically, I might want to do someone who looks like Angelina, but even just a night with that psycho might be more work than it
Re:Angelina Jolie Naked (was Re: My Impressions... (Score:3, Funny)
Brought back some memories here as well
-Jesse
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Insightful)
You made the right call.
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Funny)
"Honey, *I* think you're perfect. But it's YOUR body, and if YOU think you'd want to change something, I'll still support you and think that you're perfect--just like I do when you cut your hair."
(An optional "but, yeah, that'd be hot!" is only allowed for those of us with loving wives who have grown used to sarcastic comments.)
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:3, Insightful)
Some possible safe answers are:
Take off your clothes so I can compare.
What fat?
Damn I think I left the oven on (run from the room and out the front door and don't ever come back).
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Funny)
I recommend it to everyone.
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:5, Funny)
See, it's like a lottery. The coolness of the remote possibility of success is worth the probability of losing, and having to sleep on the couch for a week.
Angelina (Score:4, Informative)
Angelina's small part, preview showing (Score:3, Informative)
BTW, I went to the same preview showing you did (which was fun (and no previews!)). I had read about this movie a while ago (can no longer find the article online) and I thought it was an awesome premise and it was neat how the guy started it on
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:3, Insightful)
I also don't like that waxy white "CGI" sheen that everything has. The latest Harry Potter movie had that, too. Ick.
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:3, Informative)
--Kimota, who is almost as excited about seeing "Sky Captain" as he was at 13, when seein
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:My Impressions from the Commercials (Score:3, Insightful)
First intirely blue screen movie was.. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:First intirely blue screen movie was.. (Score:5, Funny)
So there.
Kinda Reminded Me (Score:5, Interesting)
of the PC / Xbox game "Crimson Skies" when I first saw the previews.
Hey Great (Score:5, Insightful)
Wow, they should make more of these!
Re:Hey Great (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hey Great (Score:5, Funny)
Groundbreaking? (Score:3, Insightful)
The plot, which hurtles across maps of the world Indiana Jones style, definitely take a back seat to the effects. The character interactions are all predictable. But all of that is consistent with the genre
Is this a little contradictory? Special effects are not ground-breaking. Give me a movie with effects like these and a plot that doesn't insult me. Then, we can call it "groundbreaking."
Groundbreaking! (Score:5, Insightful)
Special effects are not ground-breaking.
Why not? There's no SFX ground to break? Or does this not constitute a ground-breaking level of SFX achievement according to you?
Give me a movie with effects like these and a plot that doesn't insult me.
The plot insults you? WTF?
Its a pulp! I love these! Indiana Jones, Tom Strong, and now Sky Captain. I'm happy.
If you don't like pulps, that's your loss, but to say that it insults you...that's something else.
Re:Groundbreaking! (Score:3, Insightful)
As for the plot, why does a movie with special effects have to be a pulp? Why not run with the great effects and make a movie like Minority Report? Yes, I understand that not all movies have to be serious, but just because a movie has a thin, cheesy veil of a plot, does not mean I am going to defend it. Kill Bill went for that type of pulp plot and succeeded. Sky Captain does not try for it, b
Re:Groundbreaking! (Score:5, Insightful)
You are approching this completly backwards.
Its not a movie with SFX that has to be a pulp; Its a pulp movie that has to have SFX.
Why not run with the great effects and make a movie like Minority Report?
Because that movie was already made?
Why do you object to people making the storie they want to make? He started this with a mac in his house. You don't like it? Buy a mac, make your own instead of attacking his movie, without even having seen it no less!
If you have a movie in your head you want to see on a screen, make it instead of demanding that others refrain from making theirs in order to make what you want to see.
God I can't stand that attitude! He's not taking anything away from you!
He's making something new, he's contributing years of effort to our cultural heritage, and you sit there complaining that he spent these years making something he likes instead of something you like.
Sheesh.
Re:Groundbreaking? (Score:5, Funny)
I must have the abridged version of "The Picture of Dorian Gray."
-Peter
Re:Groundbreaking? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Quick Question (Score:5, Informative)
At one point in Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea, Nemo declares himself to be a native of India, who has lost his family and his homeland.
He shows up again in The Mysterious Island, and although there are inconsistancies between the two books, we get a lot more information about him:
check this out (Score:3, Informative)
Crimson Skies (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Crimson Skies (Score:3, Insightful)
Not that I've seen this movie yet, but the previews look so similar that I wonder if they wanted to make a Crimson Skies movie, but couldn't get the movie rights.
Either way, it looks like it's right up my alley. Alas, with kids, going to the movies is hard. :)
Re:Crimson Skies (Score:3, Informative)
I think it's just a captivating idea...WW2 plans always seems to be one of the "coolest" eras, not quite as primitive and "knights of the air" as WWI, but not so electronic and jet powered as Korea and beyond. Making a retrofuture of it might just be a natural fit.
Crimson Skies actually played a lot like Wing Commander and Wing Commander 2...a LOT of gameplay parallels. And WC was indeed modeled on WW2 type st
Angelini Jolie wearing an eyepatch? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Angelini Jolie wearing an eyepatch? (Score:5, Funny)
-Peter
Aha! (Score:3, Funny)
I Miss ol' Jon Katz's reviews (Score:5, Funny)
Couldn't you have put in a paragraph or two drawing parallels between this movie and Columbine? Or how it relates to globalism? Your plain vanilla movie review kinda feels naked without you attempting to link it in with current events or society.
GMD
I'd almost completely forgotten! (Score:4, Funny)
Oh yeah... now I remember. That was about the time I started browsing at -1.
Re:I Miss ol' Jon Katz's reviews (Score:3, Funny)
Where's Katz? (Score:5, Insightful)
What happened to Katz? Why did he stop contributing to slashdot? Is he still talking about Columbine and geekdoom? Did he lear to use a computer?
I wish slashdot would post an interview with him, I predict record page hits!
Jon Katz we miss you, you sucked, but you are missed!
Re:Where's Katz? (Score:3, Informative)
You can read an interview [workingdogweb.com] with John.
Perhaps dealing with real dogs is easier than dealing with the Dogs of Slashdot.
the Sci-Fi museum (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:the Sci-Fi museum (Score:4, Informative)
The real reason to visit a museum for the artifacts, and on this level they sometimes impressed and sometimes were lacking. A number of items were not authentic props- there were replica lightsabers, a replica R2-D2, a reproduced Terminator - and these sometimes made the displays seem a little incomplete. On the other hand, they have lots of Star Trek originals: Patrick Stewart's Borg accessories, a couple dozen phazors, tricorders, Captain Kirk's chair. They had a lot of scripts and original manuscripts, as well as model spaceships... Actually, my disappointment might just be bitterness at the gift shop lingering - I just wanted something with a logo on it, and everything was wildly overpriced, I think the cheapest pen was $10... oh yeah, that and the wording on the back of the ticket rubbed me the wrong way, I believe it starts "This ticket is a revokable license..." - I shit you not.
Meh, I'd still go again, but if you're planning a trip, keep your expectations in check. I'm sure that as the years go on it will only improve.
As a more on-topic aside, the Sky Captain movie reminds me of my friend's comic that he's been working on for the past year or so. It's more of a traditional pulp thing, but what I've seen [that he hasn't posted yet] seems pretty cool (he just finally put up the first installment recently - I believe he'll be updating weekly): Captain Spectre and the Lightning Legion [captainspectre.com].
personally (Score:5, Interesting)
CGI should be a tool to enhance a good, original story.
I rarely see original plots anymore being made into movies.
One notable exception though, is the recently made Oldboy [imdb.com], a Korean movie.
If you intend to see this work of genius, avoid spoilers at all costs.
Obligatory Futurama Quote (Score:5, Funny)
How about a plot too? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why can't Hollywood make movies that have great special effects AND good plots? The Matrix and Spiderman were the the only two decent movies in recent times that have had good CG and a decent plot. I guess you could toss some of the Pixar flicks as well, but that's still a small minority when compared to all the crap that has come out.
Hollywood, pay attention: we need something that interests us, not just something that looks pretty.
the simple answer... (Score:5, Insightful)
hollywood is kind of like the gymnasts in the olympics. you always want them to do a spectacular routine, they always wants to do a spectacular routine, they practice forever to do it right, but they can still screw up badly, even at the highest levels of competition. it's just plain HARD. and you can still fail on the easy stuff you know how to do in your sleep.
there is just so many variables involved, and so many nuances of execution to keep track of, that hollywood will always be churning out bad movies.
but look at it this way: there are no peaks without valleys. you can't have something seem great if you compare it against a bunch of other movies equally as great. you're a tough judge. we all are. if every movie was matrix-quality, then it stop impressing you as much as it did. so bad movies will be made, in a greater number than good movies, forever. it's statistical inevitability and human psychology conspiring together.
Yeah... (Score:5, Funny)
And you probably like women for their personality too. Wierdo.
Re:How about a plot too? (Score:4, Insightful)
Whenever I catch myself thinking about the "good old days" when everything that was put out was good quality and worthwhile, I have to remind myself that things only seem that way in retrospect because I've forgotten about all of the drivel that was produced back then, and have remembered all of the high quality stuff. Take music, for example - the only reason "classical" music has a reputation as being high quality is because nobody plays the crap that was written in the 1800's. Only the very best of what was written then is still around.
The lifespan of craptacular movies is shorter than that of bad quality arts in other genres, I think, so it doesn't need to take several hundred years for the quality to be separated from the crap.
Anyway, just my two cents on the issue of "Why is there so much crap coming out these days?"
Re:How about a plot too? (Score:5, Informative)
Lord of the Rings?
Great (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Great (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah, all Jackson got for his effort was shitloads of money, shitloads of great reviews, and shitloads of awards, including an Academy Award for Best Director. Okay, sure, he didn't win an Unobtanium Zrigny Award from the Unaligned Worlds Council for the Electromagnetic-Spectrum-Based Arts, but th
FireFox (Score:4, Funny)
Re:FireFox (Score:5, Funny)
I'm impressed with something different (Score:3, Interesting)
1. Laurence Olivier starring in the movie, from old celluloid.
2. That film noir look achieved through filming the scenes in black and white... and then colorizing them! (Smacks forehead) What a great, simple, and clever idea.
Those 2 slick gimmicks have to lend an air of retro feel to the movie with aplomb, nevermind the other design elements, like the look and feel of the robots.
Gotta see this one.
see for yourself (Score:3, Informative)
Groundbreaking, my arse (Score:3, Funny)
What you said:
What you meant:
OK, OK, I know this film is just a cheesy knockoff of a pulp '30s-era sci-fi rag, but Angelina Jolie pops her tiddies out! TWICE!!!
The coolest part of this movie is... (Score:5, Interesting)
Wired had an article [wired.com] about it a while ago, and i've been excited to see it ever since.
Horray for garage studios!!
Re:The coolest part of this movie is... (Score:3, Informative)
Although I had originally been under the impression that he took pictures of the actors, and added them to the movie that way. Oh well, still just as cool.
If you ever want to see a cool CG anime done ENTIRELY by one man and voiced by himself and his wife, check out Hoshi No Koe (Voice of the Stars), and he recently did another one but I forget the name.
Wild ride to the past that should have been (Score:5, Interesting)
I wasn't part of the pulp era, but I enjoyed reading pulp and Golden Age sf works. There's just something free-wheeling, childlike, and wondrous about the visions of tomorrow that those stories embodied. I still like space opera, with vast galactic fleets spinning out of a nebular cluster to go into battle with the dreaded Zorkanoids -- or whatever the evil space being of the moment was.
The trailers for this reminded me of another "guilty pleasure" film, "The Rocketeer." I suspect "Sky Captain" will join "Rocketeer" in my movie collection as something that is aimless, harmless exciting fun.
Re:Wild ride to the past that should have been (Score:3, Insightful)
The Rocketeer was one of the most underrated movies of my time, I'm really looking forward to next weekend.
John Carter of Mars! (Score:4, Interesting)
If done "so seriously it's fun" like Sky Captain appears, it could be one hell of a ride. If nothing else, I love a good swashbuckling movie.
I'm sorry, Microsoft has patented the blue screen (Score:5, Funny)
View the trailers (Score:3, Informative)
Doc Savage, Man of Bronze!! (Score:4, Interesting)
The real thing were written before physics was a respected scientific profession, and chemists and electricians were the cutting edge of technology. The World's Fair and the technological marvel of the Golden Gate Bridge are the settings for the Man of Bronze, a paragon of physical perfection raised by five scientists and flanked by his four comrades in arms, plus their pet monkey, pig and occasionally aided by Doc's sister.
They are slices of a different age, a different outlook. The world was as full of sinister forces as the headlines of today, but the steadfast belief that honorable and well trained (and euro-caucasian) men could triumph over evil was held as a truism. Airplanes were new, the world had just become global, but war had yet to span the whole planet.
Great books.
I have a strong feeling that this movie is based more on the modern steampunk and Sons of Ether (a la White Wolf's Mage) genre. A modern retake on an era, just like RenFaires have little to do with the actual Middle Ages.
--
Evan "Not for the Politically Correct sensitive"
Tom Strong, modern and postmodern. (Score:3, Informative)
Then you should rather enjoy the adventures ofTom Strong [leguy.de], from America's Best Comics. Very good pulp.
I have a strong feeling that this movie is based more on the modern steampunk and Sons of Ether (a la White Wolf's Mage) genre. A modern retake on an era
There is a vocabulary used to discuss and analyse art, and by extension science fiction, that uses the words "modern" and "postmodern" that you might or might not be aware of.
I don't want to go into a len
Wired Magazine Article (Score:5, Informative)
Blue Screen Filming (Score:5, Interesting)
The trouble is: It looks very much like that.
Good use of blue screening results in the characters looking like they're "there". From the commercials I've seen of this movie, it reminds me of one of those old CD-ROM games where they mixed live actors and CG backgrounds.
This one just doesn't work for me. It feels so artificial.
They finished it? Finally! (Score:4, Informative)
(Incidentally, this is why working with Hollywood is such a pain. Either you're in development hell, and there's no money, or you're in production, and and there's no time.)
"Sky Captain" does look a bit too much like Crimson Skies. Microsoft has a line of Crimson Skies pulp fiction novels. [crimsonskiesuniverse.com] that seem designed to be movies. Dreamworks optioned movie rights for Crimson Skies back in 2001, but didn't use the option.
all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" (Score:5, Funny)
all the way back to 1984?
Never heard of Tron? 1982? CG all over the place?
You whippersnappers with your fancy Angelina Jolie-la-di-da and Jude Law-la-di-doo! Back in my day, all we had was Jeff Bridges and Bruce Boxleitner in neon jumpsuits. And we liked it!
Re:all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" (Score:3, Interesting)
TLS was rendered completely on a single Cray, and while some shots have a definite "atari" quality about them, some shots still hold their own, even today.
Yeah, Tron might have been first to market, but TLS was, imo, a whole hell of a lot cooler. TLS is why I went to Art School and why I have a degree in Computer Animation.
Of course, I spend my workdays subtitling video and being a linux bitch, but he
Re:all the way back to "The Last Starfighter" (Score:3, Interesting)
The Last Starfighter had a lot more compelling features:
1) Everything that looked like CGI in i
Princess of Mars, A (2006) (Score:3, Informative)
Princess of Mars, A (2006) [imdb.com]
Announced, and in production as of March 2004, my friends!
And to start the rumors flying like a Sky Captain, I heard they are looking at Rena Sofer.
kulakovich
ooh, look! (Score:3, Funny)
And now we have something new! It's now cool to do the same thing to Angelina Jolie! Those same geeks who watched "Hackers" 67 times and jacked off wildly to every scene with Angelina in it now turn around and try to score points with their uber-arrogant crowd by claiming that Angelina Jolie, like "suxx0rs, d00d".
You know, if it were legal to sterilize you little twits I'd be out there with a pair of nail clippers in a heartbeat, doing my part to clean up the gene pool.
Max
Castle in the Sky / Laputa (Score:3, Interesting)
I definitely need to see this movie, if nothing else than to check for more similarities. :)
Re:Huh (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Woo hoo! (Score:3, Insightful)
Don't they all start off as little guys?
Re:Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! (Score:3, Insightful)
Sadly, if he did that, few would have the opportunity to share in even a "corporatized" version of his vision simply because all the trumpeting in the world isn't enough to reach the masses.
It's all about distribution.
Re:Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! (Score:5, Insightful)
It's easy to decry someone who 'sells out'. But why lambast someone who used the system to bring a dream to life?
Gainsaying mainstream distribution by mplying traitorship to some imagined cause is silly. What's the cause in this case? Simply an artist's desire to bring his vision to life.
To reach the masses, he cannot do this on his own. He either uses 'establishment' media channels or uses the internet, which despite the apparent chaos and freedom, still runs on a commercial backbone. He cannot show the world his vision without some medium (or media) to carry the message, who cares what path he takes? The important thing is that a man had a vision, and that vision was powerful (or at least compelling) enough to make the powers-that-be in the media industry sit up and take notice. Why should we not celebrate his success for what it is?
If visionaries can make their visions seen, by hook (the internet) or by crook (big media) what more revolution do we need?
Re:Yay for the little guy?!!!! BZZZZZT! (Score:5, Insightful)
Just because you haven't had an idea worth making into something significant, don't carp that this guy did.
Dying alone and silent in idealism is nothing to hawk to the masses. Or even individuals.
Re:How do you figure? (Score:4, Insightful)
Even movies that are flat out bad can be watched in such a state of mind that one can find fun in them (without chemical influences of course).
Re:THEFT! (Score:4, Informative)
From the FAQ on imdb http://imdb.com/title/tt0346156/board/nest/115099
1) Why is the STARGATE theme in the teaser trailer? Why did they steal the music from Stargate? Will this movie have an original soundtrack?
Because the trailer editor thought it envoked the right mood, and the Paramount marketing people didn't say, no and it wasn't too expensive to license. Its been used in other trailers, and there are Star Gate Freaks all over the internet freaking out on this for some reason.
The score is one of the last parts of a film to be developed. A teaser trailer usually has to be released well before the composer has been able to do much work, if any.
Music from Stargate has been used in the following trailers:
Dragonheart (1995) - Theatrical Trailer
Independence Day (1996) - Theatrical Trailer
Jumanji (1995) - Theatrical Trailer
Lost in Space (1998) - Theatrical Trailer
The Man in the Iron Mask (1998) - Theatrical Trailer
Mighty Joe Young (1998) - Theatrical Trailer
The Mummy (1999) - Theatrical Trailer
Volcano (1997) - Theatrical Trailer
Warriors of Virtue (1997) - Theatrical Trailer
Waterworld (1995) - Theatrical Trailer
Mission to Mars (2000) - TV Trailer
Titan A.E. (2000) - TV Trailer
Dungeons & Dragons (2000) - Theatrical Trailer
Deep Rising (1998) - TV Trailer
The Time Machine (2002) - Theatrical Trailer
Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002) - TV Trailer
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004) - Teaser Trailer
The music is from the original Stargate movie, and was adapted for Stargate SG-1.
It also features music from "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within". (It's the music from Aki's dream sequence)
They did not "steal" this music. It's called "licensing"
The second trailer doesn't use the Stargate music.
Yes, the movie will use original music composed by Ed Shearmur.
It's getting rave reviews, and will be released Sept 7, 2004.
You can listen to it here
RealPlayer format: http://demand1.stream.aol.com/ramgen/aol/us/aolmu
or
http://mp.aol.
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It may interest you to know that the Stargate movie "stole" the music for its own trailer
from http://www.soundtrack.net/trailers/?cid=S&id=5 91
Stargate (1994)
"Rhythm of the Heat" - Peter Gabriel
Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) - Wojciech Kilar