Hitchhiker's Guide Quandary Phase Starts May 3rd 166
MilenCent writes "Time to grab your towels once again! BBC Radio 4 is set to begin the Quandary Phase (that is, the fourth) of the radio version of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on May 3, covering the events of So Long And Thanks For All The Fish. Once again you'll be able to listen to it on the web from Radio 4's site. There's a production diary on BBC Radio 4's website that discusses the Quandary and Quintessential Phases, which will each be four episodes and will deviate further from the books than the Tertiary Phase did (it may not end the same way it did in Mostly Harmless), as well as tie up loose ends from the first two phases. In other news, their illustrated version of the Hitchhiker's text game won a BAFTA! They also have an interview with the game's co-creator, Steve Meretzky, who also created Planetfall."
British radio stirkes again (Score:5, Insightful)
Just step on it a little more... (Score:2, Insightful)
Maybe they should put a paypal donate link on their homepage. I'll do anything to keep enjoying this forever.
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't like these all-or-nothing deals that charge me a flat rate when I want only a tiny fraction of what is offered. I mean, $300 is a year of NFL Sunday Ticket on DirecTV, a much greater volume (let alone percentage) of the programming of wh
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:1)
I'd rather have BBC. I'd be DELIGHTED to pay the license fee and get that, instead of the crapfest that is American cable TV.
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:1)
FWIW, Monty Python's Flying Circus sucks. I've never liked it, and I'm glad I never had to pay for it. Mandatory fees bad; choice good.
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:2)
You like endless programmes about decorating, house buying, gardening and auctions? Not to mention mind-numbing soaps and crap like Doctor Who? And you like paying for all this against your will? What about the same-jokes-every-week Little Britain? What about paying for programmes then the BBC putting them on digital where you can't see them? Snooker anyone?
It seems that these days all the best stuff is coming from America. A lot of people like Desperate Housewives, and that
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Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem with advertising based revenue, or 'subscriber-choice' based revenue is simple
The 'experts' can happily say that show a will attract x million viewers because it fits into the same mould as another show that got a similar number of viewers, whereas with show b - which is a completely original affair, or a departure from the current norm - they have no idea, no frame of reference to say that it is going to make so many millions in revenue. Most companies will therefore stick with the same-old same-old tried and tested variants of Big Brother.
Organisations like the BBC have extra freedom to experiment somewhat, and therefore do a lot of quality non-mainstream programmes (I presume that many of the ones I don't like have a quality an purity of their own) including a hell of a lot of excellent stuff that would very rarely even be attempted elsewhere - things like Monty Python, Dr. Who, Neverwhere, HHGTTG, Hustle, Red Dwarf, Blackadder, Little Britain to name but a few. They are encouraged to 'push the envelope' rather than chase ratings.
Sure, there are some notable experiments in the ratings sector (Ultraviolet, 24 and BSG spring to mind), but these are relatively few and far between in comparison to the BBC's gems.
I'm happy to shell out my hard-earned for a situation that engenders creative programming.
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:4, Interesting)
As a non-Brit (Aussie) I have to say I've always had a high opinion of the BBC, which just seems to get better. OK influenced a bit by recent events.
Last night I watched the second installment of the BBC series "Grumpy Old Men" gotta be the funniest documentary I have ever seen. Brilliant idea, well executed. And inspired by these "grumpy old men" of my gen I have decided to be a boring and obnoxious old fart and have my own rant!
OK. Last Sunday here the ABC (Oz's weak but welcome clone of the BBC) screened the BBC production of Supervolcano ... which I have to say is the best disaster movie I have seen ... an eerie doco that looks more like a blockbuster with nice interviews interlaced into the story that reminds me of "The Third World War" some years back. In some ways the interviews are the most disturbing parts. Well acted too.
I remember hearing the original HHGTTG series that was broadcast on double-J locally. The ABC mainstream stations wouldn't touch it, so they gave it to the rock station. Somehow appropriate. Nice to listen again online.mmmmmm
Hmmph. Ranted out. BTW, agree about Utlraviolet, nice idea ... was too busy at the time to follow it but interesting ... a war between intelligence agencies and vampires treating them as spies.
Time to go back to sleep ..............
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:2)
Kids these days! In my day we only had 2 J's [abc.net.au] and liked it!
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:2)
Sure, there are some notable experiments in the ratings sector (Ultraviolet, 24 and BSG spring to mind), but these are relatively few and far between in comparison to the BBC's gems.
You know, good programmes on the BBC are also few and far between. You make it seem that every other programme on the BBC is Blackadder or
Re:British radio stirkes again (Score:2)
Having said that I subscribe to standard and premium channels on Sky's digital broadcasting and I still find that most of my viewing is of BBC produced content, either on the BBC channels or on the "UK" network.
A tenner a month is damn good value for money for the ability to keep up to date via the BBC News website, listen to old radio
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Re:Actual figures... (Score:2)
Re:Actual figures... (Score:2)
300-195/16.6 = 6.33; statistically, "way the fuck out there".
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Let me be the first to say... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2)
I loved (and still do) all those old Infocom games when I was a kid...
Planetfall taught me how to type.
Bureaucracy taught me how to swear.
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Bureau
3 Steve & Douglas
I miss Floyd, too
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2)
Off topic, but in my opinion, modern adventure games pale in comparison with Infocom's classics. Their stories were top-notch, and the puzzles were well thought out. And the graphics (AKA mental imagery) were better than anything in today's games.
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2)
I think it's due to the rigid parsing structure and spelling constraints that my grammar skills are what they are today.
I blame the click-fest games and minimal typing interfaces on the current 'how r u?' and 'c u l8r' epidemic.
I appreciate the quality levels in the ongoing 'Myst' games, but the engrossing _story_ just isn't there. I
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2, Interesting)
Anyway, when I met him at GDC in 1999 or so, he didn't remember my letter. Bastard. I wish he was doing something more inter
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2)
Nitpicking (Score:2)
Hoopy is not an adjective. It's a noun. It's like saying, "You're a relly-together-guy amazingly-together-guy." Which sort of implies that whoever is saying such a thing hasn't quite got a handle on the whole "together" thing.
Re:Nitpicking (Score:2)
That's not technically possible.
In related news (Score:4, Funny)
The series will be cancelled six weeks into its 13-week series due to Lack of Interest by listeners.
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Well, I wouldn't put it past them
BAFTA (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not sure why an 'academy of film and television arts' thinks they're particularly qualified to judge interactive media [bafta.org] though...
So long and thanks for all the fish! (Score:2)
Surely you mean... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Surely you mean... (Score:4, Funny)
What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
What do people like so much about Hitchhiker's Guide, what is it about? How does he compare to other great writers?
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:5, Insightful)
Then you can form your own opinion about the series, as any answer you get will be someone elses opinion.
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:3, Interesting)
No, no, no. Listen to the first two radio series. Then read all the books. THEN listen to the new radio series.
Disregarding my personal dislike of the new radio serious, radio-then-books seems like a much better order to do things in to me. Radio will leave gaps which your imagination can fill as well as providing a much more condensed, rich experience. The books will fill those gaps. The other way around is less entertaining. Also, this is the way they were originally presented.
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:1)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:5, Informative)
Ok, listen, it isn't really any of those things. It's a deep parable of man and his nonsensical attempts to control the uncontrollable universe.
And it has some good bits about robots and artificial inteligence.
Oh, fark it, just read the damn thing. If you've are somewhat intelligent and a sense of humor, you like it.
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:1)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:3, Insightful)
Ok, listen, it isn't really any of those things. It's a deep parable of man and his nonsensical attempts to control the uncontrollable universe.
I'll have to pick it up. It sounds like Catch-22 (the humor and the deep parable of man and his nonsensical attempts to control the uncontrollable).
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:1)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
The way I see it, science fiction is a setting, not a genre. So the Guide is happily a comedy in a sci-fi setting, just like Star Trek is a drama in a sci-fi setting and Star Wars is a fantasy in a sci-fi setting.
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:4, Insightful)
>what is it about?
RTFBRe:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:5, Insightful)
I really can't describe it with words - I'm not the writer Adams was, clearly - but all I can say is that you owe it to yourself to read at least the first book. If you don't like it, that's fine, but I suspect you will.
What's it about, though? Life, the universe, and everything about sums it up. Read it and find out.
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:3, Informative)
If you like Python, you will love h2g2.
Best review EVER of H2G2.... (Score:2)
My review of this book is irrelevent. I could sooner review Newton's Principia Mathematica or the Book of the Subgenius. My point being, this is a book that should be read by everyone, if not for enjoyment then for cultural reference; moreover, anything I have to say about it would neither add to or detract from the book, and would only make me look like an ass (the braying kind). --Hoopy Frood (06/06/2001)
Re:What is so great about the Hitchhiker's Guide? (Score:2)
I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:2)
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:3, Funny)
Actually, he'd probably go along with you on that one. Sounds like quite the dogmatic traditionalist. You'd think he'd at least get a head-worn mic so that his assistant can quit wobbling that late-1980's handheld-on-a-gooseneck in his face. I mean, let's put the A/V back into into Ave Maria!
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:5, Funny)
The SlashPope would make it a lot easier - he would just tell you your opinion. No more confusion over whether to hate Microsoft, IBM, Java, etc. No more arguments over whether or not Google is evil. We can now speak as one unified voice - and this voice will be the SlashPope.
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:1)
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:2)
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:2, Funny)
Thine edicts are as follows:
Microsoft: evil
IBM: formerly evil, now somewhat holy
Java: naughty, but not really evil
Apple: currently good, but evil is brewing
Adding graphics to Infocom interactive fiction: Satanic
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:2)
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:2)
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:3, Interesting)
The real blasphamy is adding in the ability to save the game. Part of the design philosphy behind Hitchhikers was to make it complete bastard of a game. Thus something you forgot to do (eg feed dog) screws you right up later in the game, with no chance of recover other than to start from scratch.
from the horse's mouth (Score:2, Interesting)
4. Why don't your games have graphics?
We have nothing against graphics per se. However, given the quality of graphics currently available on home computers, we would rather use that disk space for additional puzzles and richer descriptions. After all, as our famous "brain ad" says, the world's best graphics generator is your own imagination.
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:1)
Actually, I just don't see the need to add illustrations to the game. I loved it when it was released and it remains an enjoyable text-based game. [douglasadams.com]
On the other hand, I am thrilled about the new remakes of my favorite early Ultima games . . . so I guess I can see both sides of the argument.
Maybe I wouldn't make such a good SlashPope after all. . . .
Re:I call upon Pope Benedict . . . (Score:2)
I still have my home-made maps of the Maze of Twisty Little Passages, All Alike, some of which are even accurate. And my blood pressure has never quite recovered from Bureaucracy...
I remember when I first encountered the Babel Fish Puzzle. Some people
Is it on BitTorrent yet? (Score:5, Funny)
I'd definatly listen in... (Score:1)
I like the trailer!
I remember Planetfall (Score:3, Funny)
Best Quote from Interview (Score:4, Informative)
Damn, that was a fun game that sucked up weeks of my life.
-Charles
Torrents? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Torrents? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Torrents? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Torrents? (Score:2)
Re:Torrents? (Score:2, Informative)
I'm hoping someone has MP3s of the album versions - I have them on vinyl and cassette, but no working kit that'll play those formats :(
Hitchhikers Digital Trading Cards (Score:1)
Greater deviation == good (Score:4, Interesting)
Lintilla (Score:2)
I didn't even know they did a third series. I LOVED the cliffhanger at the end of the second series, and didn't care much for how the books carried the story along.
Stefan
Quandary? (Score:1)
Please enlighten me if I'm missing the joke or something. They do identify the previous phase as the TERTIARY.
Re:Quandary? (Score:2)
It will be clear when you understand why 6x9=42.
Re:Quandary? (Score:2, Informative)
Please enlighten me if I'm missing the joke or something. They do identify the previous phase as the TERTIARY.
You're missing the joke. A quandary is a "state of uncertainty or perplexity", and something that is quintessential "[represents] the perfect example of a class or quality." They're puns, in other words (ahaha).
Re:Quandary? (Score:3, Insightful)
Direct link for those listening live (Score:5, Informative)
1) Grab RA WAV Recorder [homestead.com]
2) Open this location with it, at the appropriate time: BBC4 radio feed [bbc.co.uk]. Last September, it played Tuesdays at 10:30AM on the west coast (US).
3) Convert WAV, if you want to (or put right to CD for the car).
4) Profit (no, not really)
Just tried it again, to make sure the address hadn't changed, and it still seems to work great!
Re:Direct link for those listening live (Score:2)
Hilariously, I didn't get around to listening to them until after they had aired.
Re:Direct link for those listening live (Score:2)
Re:Direct link for those listening live (Score:3, Informative)
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#!/bin/bash
url=$1
file=$2
mplayer -dumpstream $url ; mencoder -oac pcm -o $file.pcm -noskip stream.dump ; oggenc -o $file.ogg $file.pcm
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Re:Direct link for those listening live (Score:4, Informative)
Those with modern Palms can play the RM stream on those, or convert them to something else, but it's always nice to keep the original format.
Re:Direct link for those listening live (Score:2)
They're only around for a week afterwards. #4 hasn't aired yet, #3 was months ago.
Lem (Score:3, Interesting)
If you like THGTTG you should read Stanislaw Lem's
The Star Diaries - with the main character Ion Tihiy (Ion Quiet,) you will not regret it.
If you thought the books unhoopy... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:If you thought the books unhoopy... (Score:2)
There is also a box set collectors edition, which I have, which is the original radio series plus an interview disc with DNA. In my opintion, the original radio series is the unsurpassed canonical version, but I like the books and the original TV series too. Pity about the film.
Re:If you thought the books unhoopy... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:-1 Troll (Score:1)
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Re:-1 Troll (Score:5, Funny)
Your brilliant failure to use a question mark, inability to punctuate the colloquialism "I mean" appropriately, and decision to misspell "repetitive" belie a deeper appreciation for the English language than the average Hitchhiker's Guide fan possesses. Maybe that's why you didn't like the sequels.
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The Tertiary phase simply didn't work as good radio for me, compared to the original series. The narrative didn't carry me along, the writing lacked the great 'radio moments' that the original had.
Sad.
Re:-1 Troll (Score:2)
If so, Belgium man, Belgium!
Re:-1 Troll (Score:2)
Actually I kind of agree with you - the first two books were great (I read them when they first came out). The third book was, if anything, a better singular novel than either of the other two.
The fourth book was okay at best, and really the less said about the fifth book the better.
Adams gets a free pass for his extreme cleverness in the first three books, but apart from that he was never a great writer.
Amazon UK preorders (Score:2)
Hmm, good thing I took another look now. My order seems to be for ISBN 0563529644 which is out of stock and not being produced, whearas they are taking preorders for it under ISBN 056350496X for £12.99 ($24.58). I'm doubting I'll get my lower price now. And Amazon.co.uk has been a little ba
Re:Amazon UK preorders (Score:2)
Short response: it might not be a retcon! There appear to be some significant differences between the upcoming two series and the books....
According to the production diaries, Adams wanted the third series to stick to the book fairly closely, but thought himself that the fourth and fifth books needed some editing. And they're actually going to try to tie up loose ends in the radio show.
Re:Amazon UK preorders - Quandary? (Score:2)
I speak the dialect of English in use in the U.S. In my vocabulary "quandary" is almost identical to the concept of predicament or dilemma. Quick consultation with Google points up no association between "quandary" and the concept of 'fourth'.
The word "quintessential" does invoke the concept of fifth, specifically the fifth essence (bu
Dupe Post (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:QUATERNARY not QUANDARY (Score:2, Informative)