Battlestar Galactica DVD Movie In the Works? 202
Philias writes "Although Battlestar Galactica has been going down in ratings and has yet to get picked up for another season, the sales of its DVDs has got Universal thinking of a Direct-To-Video Movie. GeekMonthly.com is reporting that plans are afoot for a film that will bridge the gap between Galactica and the new spinoff 'Caprica.' The film would be shot in March during the usual hiatus between seasons. The big difference between this and the mini-series and other seasons would be that this would be sold on DVD before being aired on the SciFi channel."
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"Unfortunately, nobody will be paid for any part of it." [slashdot.org]
No surprise ratings are falling. (Score:5, Insightful)
Other than that they really seem to be pushing the preachy morality play of the week. I think the listened too much to the critics who liked them touching "real issues" and now they have gone overboard on the "real issues" and the story and characters seem to be suffering, so much so that I have a hard time buying their actions. It is just not as good this season. I hope they get back to form soon.
They shouldn't try to drag this on endlessly, when the story is over they should stop and not inject filler seasons that increasingly make it unrealistic. I would rather have 3 or 4 good season ended properly rather than dragged out mediocre 5 or 6 seasons.
I expect modding down from fans who will claim it is better than ever.
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Now they seem too human, too emotionally vulnerable and the base star's interior just seems like a space that's too large and relaxing. And seeing base stars filled with Xena's and Tricia Helfer's is somewhat detracting. Though the cylons I really really like are the Dean Stockwell ones and the Grace Park ones. Whereas Lucy Lawless' and Tricia Helfer's cylon characters have grown somewhat flat to me, the other two mentioned represent a lot more of the sadistic cylon determination (Stockwell) and the schitzophrenic identity crisis that organic cylons are bound to have (All those Sharons)
I listen to the podcast commentaries a lot and Ronald D Moore, the producer, openly acknowledges a lot of these issues, that whatever cylon sets they built wouldnt never live up to peoples' imaginations and that revealing more and more about the cylons was always simply too tempting for them as authors. I can appreciate that, but I still think they were perhaps incorrect choices.
What I think they should do with this current arc they are doing is to give Baltar back to the Galactica. The only problem with that is considering how enthusiastically they've ejected people out of airlocks for less, keeping him alive on Galactica would be difficult to do believably. Maybe strand him on the algea planet with someone like the Chief... Also, while another election episode would be rather dull, Laura has stayed in powr through so many unlikely twists that to remove her from power within the fleet would put her character in an interesting position.
For the record, I still think it's the best drama on television, and easily soars above the 99% of TV that's just utter cultural garbage.
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Well, when they lost the Pegasus, they kept the crew and the Vipers and Raptors IIRC. So yes, twice as competent sounds about right
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You see, so much of this depends (as some other sci-fi show once said) on you point of view....
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I agree with you. The more we see of the Cylons, the more uninteresting they become. They joke, they display sarcasm, they fall in love, they have faith, they get angry, jealous, etc. They've taken all the mystery out of them, along with all the menace. They're just annoying zealots who look and act EXACTLY like humans, except they can't be "killed" while they're near a resurrection ship.
The numerous interpersonal conflict-driven stories lately were getting pretty tiresome, and real
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I personally think that the current Adama / Starbuck / Anders storyline is the weakest one they've done. It's predictable, and it's just not satisfying
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Is there a SINGLE person who's seen both recent BSG and Minority Report and didn't make the obvious connection between the two?
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to quote wikipedia"The Spacing Guild has a monopoly on imperial banking and interstellar travel: with the use of melange, Guild Navigators are the only beings capable of piloting the m
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It's already been answered. If he was a cylon he would have been infected when he went on the infected base star. He wasn't. If that wasn't enough confirmation for you then how about this: why would the cylons let him go to the infected base star knowing he would return if he could be infected?
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If he was a cylon he would have been infected when he went on the infected base star
He was in an isolation suit on the infected base star, so he wouldn't have been infected either way. Other Cylons could not have been infected, but they were unwilling to go because they had no idea what it was that was causing the problems.
why would the cylons let him go to the infected base star knowing he would return if he could be infected?
The other Cylons would not be aware if he was a member of the final five. They have already stated that they don't know what the final five look like.
However, he developed a Cylon detector; don't you think he would have put himself through it? Also, Cylon's spines
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I liked them better when they were not like humans. It gave a good bit of separation... the 'Us and Them' bit. As well, it was good to keep us off balance a bit since we didn't/couldn't understand them or know what motivated them, and therefore we didn't know what they would do next. To keep us on edge. When it gets predictable, it gets boring.
Unfortunately both Cylons/humans less interesting (Score:2)
A lot of the sense of mystery has been removed from the cylons with Baltar wandering among them.
As far as it being the best Drama on TV, "Deadwood", and "The Wire" were/are much better dramas which much more believable characters. I am sure other people can list more. As a drama it would not be high on m
BSG is top-rated cable series on Friday (Score:2, Interesting)
From http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/search/article_display
-Respectable Start for Sci Fi's Battlestar Galactica:
The two-hour, third-season premiere of Sci Fi Channel's Battlestar Galactica was the top-rated cable series on Friday, Oct. 6, with a 1.8 household rating and 2.2 million viewers. Comparatively, however, that was still down by 900,000 viewers from the season two opener in July 2005 (3.1 million).
So, they lost almo
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I'm in Canada. Every one of my friends watches BSG religiously. Every single week.
But not a single one of them watches it on Space. BSG is the reason for bittorrent. What's the adjusted ratings for bittorent users?
As for the ratings discussion...they are not that bad nor at any sort of critical stage. Leave it to the Slashdot crowd to ignore the Direct To Video movie discussion and seize on the ratings speculation one-liner.
As for the Iraq war parallels. They were strong, solid scr
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Here in Canada, Season 2 was aired several weeks later than in the US, so we pretty much HAD to download if we didn't want some asshole at work to spoil it for us! Things are a little better now, but they still aren't getting any advertising into me thanks to media center
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Sci Fi doesn't care. Unless you're putting eyeballs on advertisements, you're irrelevant in their calculus. That's the way TV works.
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Sci Fi doesn't, but Universal should. The torrent factor is probably one of the reasons why the DVDs sell so well - I get BSG off of BitTorrent because I hate the fixed schedules and advertising of traditional television. But I also buy the DVD sets as soon as they're released, because I want to support the series and get them in a nicer format that feels more permanent.
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I agree, the Cylons were at their best when they were mysterious. We didn't know what they looked like, what their powers were, or even whether they had a hotline to God. They spoke with one voice, and as the teaser for each episode reminded us, "they have a plan".
Now they are a bunch of confused humanoids who don't know the meaning of life or what they want to do when they grow up. They argue amongst themselves. They order the mechanical cylons around like a bu
The Colonies and Kobol (Score:2)
I haven't listened to the RDM podcasts, partially for fear of spoilers, but perhaps I should. Thanks for bringing up this interesting info.
In "Home, Part 2" (s2e07), didn't th
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...and started being a bit more imposing and even began leading the cylons?
Yeah I really like that idea. Rather than the puppet leader he was on New Caprica, they could have him as a dominating cult-of-personality type leader, giant posters of his face, etc. aybe even have him discover that he isn't one of the 'Final Five' but have him and his regime claim he is anyway, a Cylon Messiah. Then he can graduate to being a full fledged villain, but his rational side would still fnd conflict with his situation. Plus the Cylons always seemed prone to hysterical zealotry, they now seem
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The only options the humans have is slow death by attrition, quick death by Cylon, or jump as far and fast as possible away from the cylons and try to resettle, hoping that by the time
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The ratings are falling because who the hell watches TV on a friday night? Wait till the show is moved to 10pm sunday, then we'll see ratings go up.
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though I do like this season more so than the last. I do hope tough that they end it sooner rather than later. I also hope Caprica deals with the creation of the cylons it's a good way to continue the story without repeating the same old story lines.
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Naw, you're right. The season started off strongly and the last episode was ok, but the eps in between were crap. It was like "Black Market" from season 2. Total crap. Anything showing the cylons inside their basestars shows too much, they did indeed kill Baltar's character, the ep that was a 1 hour excuse to kill off Kat was pathetic, the Apollo/Starbuck romance? Please. Oh, and then there was ep with the old pilot or something. Zzzz. Boxing? Fucking boxing? Apparently RDM is off working on the s
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Jumped the Shark (Score:2)
After the first two or three episodes this season I can't watch it any more (though I try occasionally). The litany of issues I have with it are numerous. What started killing it was my inability to suspend disbelief any more...
Re:No surprise ratings are falling. (Score:5, Insightful)
Every episode the writers add new canon. They reveal new aspects of characters, back-story, colonial religion, Cylon goals, and secrets about Earth. The problem is that this show started off with a huge bang, and due to its uniqueness and high quality, a lot of viewers "fell in love" with various aspects of the characters or plot or even style of presentation. Today, it's virtually inevitable that every episode will introduce some element to "taint" the adoration and respect viewers have. Starbuck's recent behaviour? Helo's? Discovering the Cylons want Earth as well?
I guarantee that when the "Final Five" have their faces revealed, for every fan who says "that's neat!", there'll be some disgruntled soon-to-be-ex-fan who throws his hands up in the air and says "that's not what I would have done".
The show continues to be a very high-quality, well-written and well-acted one. I expect the ratings problem is due much more to unrealistic expectations of many, many fans that BSG will contain nothing but plot elements THEY adore.
Try caring more about what BSG IS instead of what it ISN'T, each episode. What it certainly is, is the best show on television.
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Shitdrummer.
Episode No Nos.... (Score:2)
* Use elections for the whole episode, make it a minor event taking 10% of air time.
* Court room type episodes are also boring, make it fast, like StarShip troopers.
* Fake Reality TV , come-on, its a fad, dont use it to add 'realism' and something to relate to.
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1 - ratings for ALL shows have been tanking. OVerall the show is still doing good compared to the other shows.
2 - tv viewers are geting sick of the have a show or two and then reruns for a month crap they pull lately.
3 - Filler episodes... the frequency of unrelated filler shows is increasing in BSG... Nobody cares that during a silly boxing fight they cover some love crap or other useless filler to satisfy the viewers while shooting an episode quickly and cheaply and using
Final Five (Score:2)
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At the end of last season, I downloaded the BSG podcast for the first time. Big mistake in this case. The podcast was about 90 minutes of the writers room, and in those 90 minutes it became increasingly clear to me that the BSG writers have no frakking clue as to where they are taking the show. They didn't have an overall arc to the show; they mapped out only the next "pod" (that's "mini-season" to the rest of us) and were clear that they'd end it on a note where you could take the next "pod" in any numb
... and they have a plan. (Score:2)
It is pretty sad that the writers don't.
Falling ratings? Bring in the big breasted woman! (Score:2)
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1. Baltar on the basestar is incredibly boring. I think a lot of this has to do with the writers dropping the interesting disease/genocide angle in favor of several episodes of the 'hybrid' mumbling. Combined with the cheapass set design and the "inside the Cylons" aspect of season three isn't just a boring letdown, it's a cheap boring letdown. The Cylons were better off as faceless killbot "less is more" things - this attempt to plumb their psyche feels like a set-dressed coffee
First Sci-Fi program to consider the female viewer (Score:2)
Some of the drama stuff might turn our stomachs, but I think RDM will take
It's the intensity that has gone. (Score:2)
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You either didn't watch DS9, or didn't pay much attention. I thought that DS9 was some of the best Trek ever, and much of the best stuff was when the Federation was getting it's ass kicked big time. This was, supposedly, due at least in part to RDM's influence... and that's when it got "darker" and more realistic vs everything is perfect and the Federation always saves the day. Sure, in the end they won, at great cost... but
How to be stupid (Score:5, Insightful)
I learned last year that UniversalHD runs the BSG reruns after 6 months or so, in high def. So, now I am just going to wait it out until the show is available in HD.
I think Universal is just frackin stupid to run the premier episodes in crap-def on the sci-fi channel. If there is a single demographic most likely to own HDTVs and actively seek out HD shows, it is the one that watches BSG. They need to get their shit together and simulcast the show in HD, not make us wait 6+ months for it.
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I have had hidef for about 3 years now (Samsung DLP), plus HD-TiVo. Once you get into hidef, you quickly get frustrated by lowdef- which looks much worse on a hidef TV than on a lowdef one. Lowdef DVD is not bad, though (Netflix, of course).
I suppose it will work in your favor if you can wait another year- real HD content choice should explode on the scene by then. Meanwhile, we have to settle for the few stations available on cable or Sat + locals (plus the few sports, premium m
What did they expect? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not sure what Sci-Fi expects ratings to do when they run what amounts to half a season of episodes, call it a season, and run them the better part of a year apart. TV audiences of the TiVo generation have shown that they're not content to just watch reruns for long periods of time. With decreasing new episode counts, the problem of ratings getting harder and harder to come by shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
If Sci-Fi wants a show to succeed, they should try a novel approach: go back to a 30+ episode season. These silly little 10- and 13-episode runs are barely long enough to start getting into the action, then bam: 3 month hiatus....
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Season 2 had 22 episodes, with a long hiatus.
Season 3 has 22 episodes, with a four-week hiatus.
A "normal" season for a television show is 26 episodes.
Don't get me wrong... I'd love to see year-round new episodes, 52 times a year, but it doesn't work that way in TV. Further, what SciFi has done with BSG is increasingly more like "normal" shows, so there's no trending towards "worse", I'm afraid.
Another element to the downward ratings movement may very well be that SciFi started Seas
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I think you hit a key point there and should have been modded insightful for it. BSG is basically a soap style. Each episode leads into the next one in a flow. Gaps in that flow are distracting and push the audience away. Non-episodic shows do not hold up well in reruns at all, and the big networks know this. That's why soap operas run one hour episodes five days a week, with reruns only on New Year's Day, Christmas Day, and Thanksgiving Day. Maybe one or two others.
That's the style of show BSG is
no wonder ratings are declining! (Score:3, Informative)
Farscape (Score:2, Informative)
Death by Multiplication? (Score:2, Interesting)
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http://www.ogrecave.com/archives/004519.shtml [ogrecave.com]
Well I'd Watch It... (Score:4, Insightful)
I watch the US versions, a day after they air. You can work out the rest for yourself. But there is no point viewing on Sci-Fi UK when I've already seen it. If we had parity with the US, or at least something more sensible like a week, the viewing figures would be much higher!
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btw. They're on Sky One here not SciFi (SciFi UK is mostly a horror film channel, with the occasional repeats of V and Logans Run).
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Still, is HD enough for me to re-watch BSG? I'll be honest, probably not. By the time the HD versions hit our screens, I'll be back to watching the second half of the series from the US....
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BSG for Doctor Who AND Torchwood (Score:3, Insightful)
I'll up that wager, I'll trade you getting Battlestar Galactica at the same time as the USA for getting Doctor Who AND Torchwood at the same time as the UK.
Unfortunately, the reason Torchwood would never come to the US is because the censors in the US would throw a fit about the content of the show. Way to much swearing and sex. The show would have to pull a sex and the city, and b
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I just spent two weeks in Europe, and BBC started an episode of Doctor Who, but I had to turn it off because it was a season ahead of where we are in the US. I didn't WANT to know that Rose was dead yet, damnit!
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The cylon bayships are showing WAY TOO MUCH. Its like going into Darth Vaders bathroom and watching him take off his mask and slap on some aftershave. Cylons were more interesting when it was a mystery what is going on inside there. When we knew just as much of the cylons as the humans did. Now we are watching the cylons run around in their underwear, and the bayships seem like a pretty cush place no?The scariest thing going on there is the digital lights that are unnecessarily being fla
Are these types of movies "swan songs" ? (Score:2)
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Simpsons jumped the shark years ago and should have been killed a long time ago.. the recent episodes are getting painful to watch, they're so bad.
Didn't know x files died after the movie.. the movie was nearly the first thing I saw - watched x files for a long time afterwards (seems like they did thousands of them because it took ages before they started repeating).
Loss of stargate as a lead-in (Score:4, Funny)
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What? They moved it, what, AN HOUR!? Gimme a break.
I think other posters have hit on one of the real reasons that ratings might have slipped: They decided to go against all the broadcast shows, during broadcast season. A bold move, but perhaps a bad idea -- especially with all the sci-fi / fantasy shows (lost, heroes, jericho, etc.) that are competing for viewer's eyeballs.
(btw, I think they're moving it back to 10:00 in Januar
This Feels Too Familiar (Score:2, Insightful)
The new season of BSG did the exact same thing. They started focusing on the morality of the world around us. They had terriosts and suicide bombers.
I'm sorry, but I watch SciFi because I want to escape from the problems we face in the world today. Didn't Universal learn anyt
BSG fan (Score:2)
1) The episodes are less balanced. I.e., they are more standalone episodes than before. IMHO, getting new viewers is very difficult if there's a lot of backstory needed to understand new episodes. For example, when X-Files was good it relied on some backstory. Regular viewers could be very inte
bridge the gap... (Score:2)
There's one problem right there. Why is there a gap? Why is there a spinoff? Did the events on Caprica really warrant a spinoff? Could the Caprica story, in no way, remain integrated with the main storyline in some way? And if it couldn't, and it didn't really warrant a spinoff, why not just let it be and move on?
Too many spinoffs these days - in the end, it merely divides focus (and money!) on the end of producers, actors, and audience al
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With bad cliches and weak devices: time travel, flashbacks, or some events from the past that haven't mattered until now suddenly becoming pivotal points of the existing story (making the writers free to expand upon those past events).
I wish the DVDs were cheaper. (Score:2)
I won't do it. It's a great show, and I'm glad to borrow it from people willing to fork out the dough. But it isn't worth it to me. And I think it's pro
Does RDM have film rights? (Score:2)
Touchy Feely Meets Cost (Score:2)
This entire character driven story arch lately. Especially the shit between Starbuck and Apollo. Don't get me wrong I wanted to see them together since the Mini Series, but my god...that one boxing episode it was like one giant emo trip. All Apollo needed was a myspace to record his feelings on and the plot line would have been complete. They didn't need to dedicate an entire episode to boxing. Run it in the background along some other story arcs th
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If you think the DVDs are a ripoff, you've obviously never bought anime. typically 20-30$ for four 22-24 minute episodes*, with shows typically being
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First season: Kewl! Seriousness! No disco music in space, no comedy relief robot antics, none of the (then)cornball jokes!
Second season: Kewl. More seriousness, nice parallel with current events in the real world.
Third season: Kewl? More seriousness, moving now into more oooh spooky booga booga mysticism.
I mean, come on, put something in to lighten the mood! Yeah ye
WTF is up with this month long hiatus? (Score:2)
Bill
Lose the shakeycam (Score:5, Interesting)
I used to dislike "NYPD Blue" for the same reason (Score:2)
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Now don't get me
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actually it was much closer to 10 months than 10 years.
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Needed to make what work? They pretty much did a complete undo on this arc. I found it jarring because it was comically, badly done, this was a turning point in the wrong direction for me. The characters all seemed off character and they went to the cheese closet to point out the passage of time with mustaches (Adama), fat suits (Apollo), and hair extensions (Starbuck). Then post "New Caprica" they get rid of the
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