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Captain America Dead at 66 327

jas_public writes to mention ABC news is reporting that comic book super hero Captain America has apparently tackled his last mission. "It ends a long run for the stars-and-stripes-wearing character, created in 1941 to incarnate patriotic feeling during World War II. Over the years, an estimated 210 million copies of "Captain America" comic books, published by New York-based Marvel Entertainment Inc., have been sold in a total of 75 countries. But resurrections are not unknown in the world of comics, and Marvel Entertainment editor in chief Joe Quesada said a Captain America comeback wasn't impossible."
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  • Dead at 66? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Whiney Mac Fanboy ( 963289 ) * <> on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:02PM (#18267878) Homepage Journal
    Dead at 66?

    According to the Captain America Wikipedia page [] (far more in depth than the encyclopedia britannica page I might add!), Steve Rogers was born on July 4, 1917 in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, New York City, to Irish immigrants Sarah and Joseph Rogers.

    Anyway, lets hope this original & innovative storyline is as lucrative as the "death of Superman" thing DC ran a while back.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Omeger ( 939765 )
      He's been around (as a character) for 66 years, not him being alive (as a person) for 66 years.
    • I was more than a Marvel than a DC man so you'll have to pardon my ignorance, but didn't DC do a big reality-shifting relignment of all their stories at one point?

      I agree that this sounds suspiciously like an attempt to temporarily 'kill' a major character to boost sales. I just hope that his ressurection is better thought out than Spock's.
      • by revlayle ( 964221 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:21PM (#18268162) Homepage
        Crisis on Infinite Earths []

        followed up by "Zero Hour" and "Infinite Crisis"

        Give it a couple more decades and we will also probably get:
        * Infinite Zero Hour * Zero Crisis Infinity * Earth Hour Zero * Crisis on Zero Earths
      • 'Fraid not.

        I, like you, preferred Marvel over DC. Though I've been out of comics for several decades now, from time to time, I do dip back in. It is clear to me that Marvel today is where DC was.

        Marvel's characters are getting old and stale at a time when DC seems to be invigorating their characters with new life. Hell, they even had me reading Green Lantern again despite bringing Hal Jordan back. (Hey, DC ASS-HOLES! Bring back Barry Allen! And you can forget that shit about Iris Allen being from th

        • It is clear to me that Marvel today is where DC was.

          Agreed. As a former Marvel Zombie myself, It's actually a bit of a shock to finding DC's stuff a lot more interesting and cutting-edge (well, as cutting edge as one of the major publishers can be, at any rate.)

          Further, the current Marvel "Civil War" storyline was worse than bad. Despite a few interesting subplots, the whole thing's been a dull and plodding affair, which is weird, as Marvel used to be pretty good when it came to major crossovers li
        • I think that Zemo is back. They even brought back the Red Skull after 10 or 15 years.
    • Is that Dead == Dead forever, or is that dead == "marketing dead" like Captain Marvel, Superman, Jean Grey/Phoenix/Jean Grey/Alien Substitute/Dark Phoenix/cough, etc... etc...

      I used to be a massive comics reader up until the late 80's when I quit reading all together. What did it? It was the combined fiascos of the Marvel crossover series Inferno [] where some a$$wipe decided to unwind the entire history of Kitty Pride and Illiana (Cyclops little sister) with an "oops, it was all a group hallucination? Or was
      • I'm calling it bullshit! Capt. America will be back from the dead just as soon as it econmically explotable. It really hacked me off when they brought back Jean Grey too. I actually tossed the comic book in the trash and canceled all my subscriptions. Fucking bastards. Jean Grey's story line and death was one of the best I read.

        • Jean Grey's story line and death was one of the best I read.

          Yeah - that and Batman: A Death in the Family was one of my favourites.

          Watching Robin die was actually kind of satisfying.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by rtb61 ( 674572 )
          Maybe Captain America is just in limbo temporarily because water boarding is not a direction that Marvel comics considers suitable for an American Icon.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by BakaHoushi ( 786009 )
        Personally, I've always liked comic book CHARACTERS, but have never been able to get into comic books as a whole. There's so much cross-referencing, "required" reading, and the volumes are so thin, it's ridiculous. Plus, add to that the "comic book death" syndrome. Nothing is ever permanent. Spider-man will always be around. His villains will always be around. No matter how many times he tries to give up web-slinging, he'll still end up doing it again and again and again.

        This is why I do read a lot of manga
    • Maybe they're not counting the time he spent frozen in the north pole.
  • Lone Gunmen Deja Vu (Score:2, Interesting)

    by gambit3 ( 463693 )
    Nice Lone Gunmen-ing the title there, Sherlocks. So much for me being surprised now when I read it.
  • by Pacifix ( 465793 ) <zorp@z o r p y .com> on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:06PM (#18267918)
    That's a fine way to start the day. Log on to the computer and find out Captain America is being killed off? Why don't you shoot my dog too?
  • Oh no! (Score:5, Funny)

    by brewstate ( 1018558 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:06PM (#18267920)
    Now only Jack Bauer Can save us against the evil that confronts the United States.
  • by RLiegh ( 247921 ) * on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:06PM (#18267928) Homepage Journal
    I just heard some sad news on cnn. Famed costume advernturer Captain America was found dead in his home at Timely Comics. Even if you are not a comic book fan you probably enjoyed his defeat of the nazis and his relentless persuit of freedom for all americans. Truly an American Icon. He will be missed.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Tackhead ( 54550 )
      > Even if you are not a comic book fan you probably enjoyed his defeat of the nazis and his relentless pursuit of freedom for all americans. Truly an American Icon. He will be missed.

      So will America.

      If Captain America is the embodiment of what it means to be American, let the record show that he didn't die because he failed us. He died because we, the Americans, failed him.

      • by lymond01 ( 314120 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:54PM (#18268652)
        Given the story line of Civil War where the government wants registration of heroes and Captain America chooses a more libertarian approach by going underground to fight against the Big Brother government, I'd say Marvel is trying to make a point. And I think your post was it: Captain America died because we, the Americans, failed him.

        But you know what: we voted in a new House and Senate who will hopefully change America back to the way I think it should be. How's that for an honest statement.
        • by Dun Malg ( 230075 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @07:05PM (#18268804) Homepage

          But you know what: we voted in a new House and Senate who will hopefully change America back to the way I think it should be. How's that for an honest statement.
          Heh. Won't happen. They're all the same. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. How much of guardian of freedom was congress between 1954 and 1994? They all suck. We're doomed.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by syrinx ( 106469 )
          But you know what: we voted in a new House and Senate who will hopefully change America back to the way I think it should be.

          You're either an idiot, 10 years old, or just have amnesia. The Democans are just the same as the Republicrats. Politicians are politicians, no matter their letter.
        • by dr_dank ( 472072 )
          But you know what: we voted in a new House and Senate who will hopefully change America back to the way I think it should be. How's that for an honest statement.

          The late, great Bill Hicks said it best:

          I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. "I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs." "I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking." "Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!"
  • Clearly (Score:5, Funny)

    by eclectro ( 227083 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:06PM (#18267940)
    With Captain America dead, the terrorists have won.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Who235 ( 959706 )
      Funny you mention that, since his death is roughly coinciding with the death of our Constitution.

      I think the only right we have left is the one that says they can't quarter soldiers in your house.

      Expect that one to be gone by the end of the year, *sigh* . . .
      • by kabocox ( 199019 )
        I think the only right we have left is the one that says they can't quarter soldiers in your house.
        Expect that one to be gone by the end of the year, *sigh* . . .

        Nah, soliders expect better housing than my place nowadays. I could see us "housing" 1-2 soliders, but we don't have the driveway space for a hummer or jeep. No, this is definitely the only one they'd leave want to alone. I really couldn't see the government being that cheap unless we had a war on our homefront. Heck, we have enough hotels/motels t
  • I read about this earlier, and the whole thing bothered me. Supposedly the death of their oldest hero is supposed to "resonate" more with people. I'm trying to figure out how that works when they explicitly state that there's the possibility of a ressurection. Death sort of loses its meaning when you can continually return from it without consequence (see Dragon Ball Z).
  • SPOILERS!!! (Score:5, Informative)

    by R3s0lut3 ( 861752 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:07PM (#18267952)
    Excuse me! There are some of us out here who haven't read Civil War yet! Ugh.
    • It actually happened in his main title, not the Civil War mini-series. But in all fairness, finding out was unavoidable. I'm out of town and can't pick up my books until this weekend. It was ruined for me just by reading CNN earlier. The AP Wire even has the spoiler in the title. If you didn't get your issue by the time the comic shops opened on the East coast, then you were SOL on this surprise.

  • The friendly article didn't seem to mention the future of the comic, will it continue without the main actor? His son Junior? Hitler the real father?

    Or maybe they can pull a Lost-stunt by drawing pages and pages of Captain America's flashbacks.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by DeeSnider ( 899643 )
      Well, the publishing schedule for Captain America has a two month break after this issue. In the meantime, you get lots of one-off issues of a series called Fallen Soldier chronicling the reaction of other heroes to Cap's "death".

      Now, what's also not mentioned is that in another comic released today he seems to still be alive, "fighting for his life" (He was shot in the shoulder and stomach after all, how fatal is THAT in comics?). So, I think it's pretty safe to say he will be back soon enough, that's
  • I've got that issue... It was going to be a massive collector's item...

    Then they brought him back...


    Of course I'm not sure what the big deal is... Starbuck just died and there's no media hoopla about that.
    • by Zenaku ( 821866 )

      Probably because nobody believes she's dead. Maybe I'm still in denial, but I just don't buy it. After all that buildup about her destiny and crap I'm supposed to accept that said destiny was to fly into a storm and explode? I don't buy it. I put the odds at 50 percent chance of some future episode revealing a barely plausible explanation for how she ejected and was picked up by the cylon heavy raider (or similar deus ex machina), 30 percent of some mystical afterlife nonsense based on "god" or "the god
      • by Sponge Bath ( 413667 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:39PM (#18268398)

        ... one of the remaining 5 cylon models.

        Or (follow me on this), the storm caused her to be thrown
        back in time and across the galaxy (to say 1980 Earth) where she
        has adventures on what appears to the the set for CHiPs.

        This will be spun into a new series.

        • by Zenaku ( 821866 )
          Ha! I like it. I was reserving my last 10 percent for "I'm wrong and it's none of the above" but what the hell -- 10 percent chance she is thrown back in time.

          Only I think it will be to the dark ages, where she will fight Deadites using her appropriately modifed Viper and her knowledge of gunpowder.
      • I wouldn't be surprised. That show has already had way too many cases of deus ex machina, what's one more? So many times I've hoped that I'd finally seen the last of one of the characters I don't like, but no, the biggest character who died (and probably ever will) was Billy. Great.

        Maybe the key to finding earth and making peace with the cylons is having every character on the show come back from the brink of death.

        And as for your predictions, I vote that all 3 will happen.
        • by tm2b ( 42473 )
          I would say that Kat was a bigger character than Billy was. Her death was well done.
    • by solios ( 53048 )
      Marvel never, ever actually kills a character. They just can't; it goes completely against their Franchise-And-Flog mentality, and it's the main reason I stopped reading Marvel titles in the late 90s. If you're going to kill my favorite characters, have the decency to leave them dead, dammit.

      As for Starbuck... the media (and many fans) stopped giving a shit about Galactica when the writers gave up on serious, interesting bits (genocide, fleet issues, politics, etc) to dwell on the goddamned Starbuck/Apoll
      • It think that the love triangle was because some marketing guy or producer said "We need a love story to attract a broader audience and more female viewers". So the writers said, "Sure we'll write a love story. The shittiest, most contrived piece of drivel you've ever seen. And then when the ratings fall we'll go back to making a good show".
    • Starbucks died? No more Latte? This can't be...
  • I have the first Captain America, he fights the German Donald Duck. Guess who wins.
    • ...the German Donald Duck

      I had always assumed Donald was Canadian.
      Slashdot is better source of information than Wikipedia!

  • Pre-Curser (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:09PM (#18267972)
    Maybe they could do a back-story series, something along the lines of "The Adventures of 2nd Lieutenant America".
    • There was a one-shot spinoff/alternate version of the X-Men comic book called Codename: X-Men that featured a variety of mutant miscreants being gathered for a mission rather than rotting in prison. In that world, Iceman used a squirt gun that he would turn into a lethal weapon, freezing blasts mid-flight. The leader of their organization was a dark fellow named "Colonel America". When asked about who he was and his relationship to Cap, he replied, "I'm who Captain America will be in a few years if he sa
      • He also had no remorse torturing and harming the X-Men as was. Kind of like today's America.
        Yes, truly sad. I hear the President is kicking Wolverine in the 'nads and Dick Cheney's gay lesbian daughter (did you hear? She's gay) is molesting Jean Grey as we speak!
  • by StefanJ ( 88986 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:09PM (#18267986) Homepage Journal
    Our sinister plans are coming along just fine.

    Without colorfully decked out heroes to inspire patriotic thoughts, America's youth will now turn to video games, skate boards, meaningless text chatter and enormous quantities of junk food to fill the empty hole in their lives.


    Already doing that, are they?


    Well, perhaps we need to demoralize the younger set. We have an offer to kill Barney the Purple Dinosaur. Kids still like him, right?

    Wait, the KIDS want us to kill him?

    That's it. I'm going back to Eddoria.
  • confusing (Score:2, Funny)

    by niloroth ( 462586 )
    i am wondering if it is to much for me to ask for some semblance of reality injected into the comic industry. With the frequency that characters are killed, resurrected, killed again, cloned, or brought in from another universe, i highly doubt that Cap will make it more than 6 months before someone finds him under a rock somewhere, most likely with amnesia if i had to guess.
    • by Snowgen ( 586732 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:20PM (#18268152) Homepage

      i am wondering if it is to much for me to ask for some semblance of reality injected into the comic industry.

      I agree! Let's stick to realistic flying people with telepathic powers and super-human strength that the got from a gamma-radiated firefly!

      • "Suspension of disbelief." It's easier to be convinced by a representation of a world otherwise normal where people have psychic powers than a world where popular people never seem to stay dead, transparently for the purposes of marketing.
  • According to Wikipedia []:

    Rogers attempts to enlist, only to be rejected due to his poor constitution.


    A U.S. Army officer looking for test subjects offers Rogers the chance to serve his country by taking part in a top-secret defense project -- Operation: Rebirth, which seeks to develop a means of creating physically superior soldiers. Rogers volunteers for the research and, after a rigorous physical, combat training and selection process, is chosen as the first human test subject

    So he was not fit to be enl
    • by geekoid ( 135745 )
      Well the people who did well failed.
    • by PhxBlue ( 562201 )

      So he was not fit to be enlisted, yet strong enough to participate in this rigorous physical, combat training and selection process?

      Since he obviously wasn't good enough to be enlisted, they settled for giving him a commission. Hence, Captain America.

  • Death in comic books is always nearly kinda sorta semi perminent.
  • You call yourselves nerds?


    I laugh at you!

    Is this the Capt. America that fought the Red Skull, or the Capt. America that fought the Red Skull?

    I can tell by the perplexed looks upon your pale faces that you don't realize that there was another Capt. America, in the 1950s!

    Drag yourselves back to your mother's basement to dig out your old comic books and you will disgust yourselves almost as much as you disgust me.

    I laugh at you again. No, better yet, I spit on you.

    SIGNED Red Skrull

  • What really peeves me is that I've been reading Cap regularly for a while now, and I was just trying to by the next issue like I always do but all the frigging collectors and speculators bought them first. So a bunch of people who couldn't care less have it and I don't.

  • I never read much Captain America, but I read a good number of other Marvel comics. Frankly, getting sniped seems like a pretty damn weak death for someone so badass. It just doesn't seem fitting for a superhero to get taken out by a single dude with a rifle.
  • Marvel Database [] is the best place to read about this kind of stuff. (20,000+ articles)
  • by ikekrull ( 59661 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:32PM (#18268312) Homepage
    Its clear the old Captain America doesn't really symbolise what America stands for any more.

    I'm picturing a Baron Harkonnen from the Lynch Dune movie, drenched in blood and oil. His superpower would be the ability to fly at 50,000 feet in an invisible plane, and destroy his enemies (along with anyone else who happened to get in the way), with radioactive munitions.

    His weakness, which all superheroes have, would be his incredible stupidity.

  • by DreamingReal ( 216288 ) <{dreamingreal} {at} {}> on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:42PM (#18268440) Homepage
    Joe Quesada is dissembling because "death" in comic books rarely is. Hiatus is a better word to use for characters that supposedly die only to be brought back to life by the new writer on the next arc (Magneto anyone?).

    That said, Cap will be back. Steve Rogers was not the only Captain America and he won't be the last. William Naslund, Jeff Mace, a "fake" Steve Rogers, and most recently, John Walker briefly took the mantle of "Captain America" from Rogers. I am sure another Marvel hero will assume the role of Captain America in his stead.

    As a collector of the series, I am disappointed as Steve Rogers has been the one and only Captain America in my opinion and he can never be replaced, no matter who wears the costume.

  • 66 huh? So we are expected to believe that it's a coincidence that just 1 year after his pension benefits kick in he suddenly dies. I think not. Just a little too convenient...
  • Art imitates life (Score:5, Insightful)

    by vivaoporto ( 1064484 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @06:45PM (#18268508)
    So, Captain America dies. He, a hero burned in the popular imaginary as a *defender* the multiple freedoms people are naturally entitled (note the operative word there, defender, as in "a fighter who holds out against attack"). He that, even to the ones (like me) that didn't read the comics, is known to portrait the very image of America, the World Police, the Shield of the free world. He that used all his strengths to defend the world against the Nazi and the commies, armed with nothing more than a shield and his will to do the right thing. Dead.

    Maybe it is just coincidence that he is dead now, right when the vision of an U.S.A holding the high standards of freedom and fighting the good fights is vanishing every intervention, every occupation, every bad move in the fragile international relationships. (And I say "the vision" because, even U.S.A. making some bad movies between the end of WWII and the fall of The Wall, the fear of the communism was enough to impair the sight of the so called Free World, forgiving every single American mistake on that time, from Indochina to Central America, from Africa to South America).

    I doubt the artists behind the comics would be courageous enough to make such a statement, to kill a superhero only to make a point. But the could have done. Captain America doesn't represents U.S.A anymore, America a long time ago gave up of the "land of free and home of brave" motto, gave up the "land of opportunities" ideal to embrace a no holds barred savage capitalism, where companies have the same rights but none of the duties of the natural people and can leverage their immortality to get rich at the expenses of the less favored. If Captain America was a real person in the real world, it would probably be fighting with all his strengths to restore to America everything that was lost in the past 60 years. But he isn't, so he is better off dead.

    Jack Bauer is a better hero for U.S. now, anyway. Rest in peace if you can, Captain America, knowing that everything you fought for is about to be thrown away for 30 pieces of silver.
    • I doubt the artists behind the comics would be courageous enough to make such a statement, to kill a superhero only to make a point.

      I could see the excellent J Michael Strazynsci (speling?) doing this. Or individuals like Grant Morrison who routinely pervert characters to their own sociopolitical interests (I don't like my X-Men comics infused with Freudian undertones.)
    • Today's Captain America would carry an assault rifle and defend oil pipelines from insurgents.
    • by dexter riley ( 556126 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @09:53PM (#18270922)
      America a long time ago gave up of the "land of free and home of brave" motto

      Remember, the last line of the national anthem isn't a motto, it's a question:

      "O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
      o'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?"

      Every generation has to ask themselves the question; every generation has to work to make the answer "yes".
  • I will no doubt be offending fans of Captain America with this post, but frankly, I'm glad he's gone. I never liked Captain America for one very important reason: he took the place of the superhero who should have served as a patriotic, shield-wielding warrior -Captain Canada. What I'm trying to say is this: Captain Canada should have been the super hero with the shield. Think about it. If we are picking an item to represent the policies of the US, is a shield really the right one? Wouldn't a stealth missil
    • by djKing ( 1970 )
      The First Rule of the Canadian Shield, Don't Talk about the Canadian Shield. Why would we advertise it with a comic book hero?

      - Peace
  • I can't believe mainstream media (not Slashdot) actually got in on reporting this. Didn't they learn anything from "The Death of Superman?"

    This isn't even the first time Captain America has been killed off... sheez.
  • The smoking and burgers finally caught up with him. I guess he really was an american.
  • Surviving members of 'Captain America's Red, White, and Blues Band' will re-unite for the first time since the late '60s to play at the funeral, with Nick Fury taking Cap's place on lead shield.
  • by searchr ( 564109 ) <.searchr. .at.> on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @07:31PM (#18269184)
    Some folks, those who actually read comics, have been slogging through this particular story arc for the better part of a year. One of those frustrating "cross-over" event stories, that involves every comic on the shelf, so there's no escape.

    A Year. A year of waiting and guessing and theorizing about the big ending, which is still a month or so away.

    So now, the ONLY people who give a crap just got a big steaming pile of **SPOILER** handed to them thanks to a too-soon press release and an unthinking media that, in spite of a multi-Billion dollar comic book movie market, still thinks no one's reading them enough to care if they ruin entire plots in the headlines.

    Jack Bauer Dies on 24 This Season!

    Lost Is Really On An Alien Planet!

    The Cheerleader Dies on Heroes!

    Harry Potter Becomes Evil In Final Book!

    you'd figure at least here in geek-land, a little more care would be taken.
  • The Return (Score:4, Funny)

    by brownpau ( 639342 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @08:11PM (#18269746) Homepage
    I'm sure Marvel's already working on a "Return of Captain America" line involving four people all claiming to be Cap - a black man in adamantium body armor, a young boy, a cyborg, and an energy being.
  • by twifosp ( 532320 ) on Wednesday March 07, 2007 @08:20PM (#18269876)
    I believe killing off Captain America was just a metaphor.

    Captian America was a bit different than your gadern variety superhero. He didn't fight super villians, evil geniuses, and/or monsters/aliens. He fought for civil liberty, freedom, and rights. Analogies of those at times, but those were his core reason to fight.

    Imagine then the writers dillema when they realize in order for Captian America to fight for those things, he must fight America itself. Instead of be faced with that overwhelming irony, they took the easy way out and killed him off. I would have preferred they make a stand and actually had Captain America turn his shield on the White House for a few issues. Mr. Smith goes to Washington squared.

    Captain America
    Crushed by Irony

  • by AndroidCat ( 229562 ) on Thursday March 08, 2007 @02:05AM (#18272898) Homepage
    Better get out the word that someone might be killing costumed crimefighters.
  • by clickety6 ( 141178 ) on Thursday March 08, 2007 @07:12AM (#18274428)

    Apparently Captain America no longer symbolised the new American ideals.

    Instead, he will be replaced by The Punisher:

    "...the Punisher is a vigilante who considers killing, kidnapping, extortion, coercion, threats of violence and torture as acceptable crime-fighting tactics."

    [Source: Wikepedia]

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