Neal Stephenson Returns with "Anathem" 248
Lev Grossman writes to tell us that Neal Stephenson, author of greats like Snow Crash and Cryptonomicon, has another novel due for release in September. The catalogue copy gives us a small glimpse at what may be in store: "Since childhood, Raz has lived behind the walls of a 3,400-year-old monastery, a sanctuary for scientists, philosophers, and mathematicians--sealed off from the illiterate, irrational, unpredictable 'saecular' world that is plagued by recurring cycles of booms and busts, world wars and climate change. Until the day that a higher power, driven by fear, decides that only these cloistered scholars have the abilities to avert an impending catastrophe. And, one by one, Raz and his cohorts are summoned forth without warning into the Unknown."
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After Diamond Age and Cryptinomican, I half expect any book I read by Stephenson to end in mid-sente
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Endings are definitely not Stephenson's strongest point, but the fact that this book at least has one, and every single one of the 1100 pages before that ending being exciting, thrilling, interesting and witty, has made Cryptonomicon my favourite book ever. It knocked Lord of the Rings off its throne, and is a must-read for every nerd who is even the slightest bit interested in computers, math, information warfare, submarines, treasure hunts, WW2, or reading.
The only real downer in the book was the two consecutive descriptions of Manilla, one during WW2, the other in modern times. I'm sure the differences between the two descriptions should have been enlightening, but to me it was just boring twice in a row. The rest of the book is absolutely brilliant, however, and that brilliance far outshines these minor downsides.
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That is epilogue, and is not always necessary for an ending. Also note that I didn't say it was a brilliant ending, just that it had "something of an ending", which it did.
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So, I hear criticsm of Stephensons endings all the time, and it genuinely mystifies me.
What book are you referring to? Between The Big U, Zodiac, Snow Crash, The Diamond Age, and The Baroque Cycle I can't come up with any major unresolved plot elements at all. I'm genuinely curious if anyone can enlighten me... What did you want to know about a Stephenson plot that didn't get wrapped up?
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I'm reading the Diamond Age now. I really didn't like how he ended the Cryptonomicon,so I suppose I should be prepared.
You didn't like Cryptonomicon's ending? Oh boy. It's the most satisfying ending he's ever written. You should have read The Diamond Age and Snow Crash first. Then you'd really have apppreciated Cryptonomicon's ending.
But his books aren't about the ending. They're about the detailed world he's painting, and about the attention to technical detail. The rushed ending is just something you'll have to accept in order to wrap up all the juicy goodness in the rest of the book.
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I couldn't agree more. I think Stephenson, at his best, has a singular gift for conveying background information, often fairly technical stuff, without interrupting his narrative. Consider the passage in Cryptonomicon where he explains modular arithmetic using the broken spoke on Alan Turing's bicycle, or the gradual explanation of universal Turing machines that's woven into the second half of The Diamond Age.
Sometimes I think he takes it a little far... the first half of The Confusion sometimes felt like it was trying to explain the entire political framework of sixteenth-century France, and not always succeeding (at least, not in my case) - but by and large it's an aspect of his writing I enjoy very much.
(I also think it demonstrates an interesting contrast with another great sci-fi/'cyberpunk' author, William Gibson. Where Stephenson will take several pages explaining some neat gadget or system, Gibson just throws his technological ideas at you and lets you work out for yourself what he's talking about. Count Zero opens with the line "They sent a slamhound on Turner's trail in New Delhi, slotted it to his pheromones and the color of his hair."... and closes 333 pages later without ever telling you what a slamhound is or how you would go about slotting one.)
I wonder if Enoch Root will be in this one...
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What am I missing? That's a genuine question.
He's Neal Stephenson [wikipedia.org]. If you want an idea of why Slashdotters enjoy him, check out his (free to read) non-fiction piece In the Beginning was the Command Line [spack.org].
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Also check out Mother Earth, Mother Board [wired.com], which is a fast-moving, gripping, action packed, 42000 word essay on... the history and practice of submarine cable laying. Really. It's awesome. Read it. (He used bits of it for the background in Cryptonomicon, so if you've read that you may find it a little familiar.)
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Ok, genuine answer here.
I strongly recommend Cryptonimicon as a good start. It's a big novel with two storylines from different historical points converging to a single dramatic and climatic end, with a subtle blend of emotions, tensions and strong, believable obligations. Woven throughout is an intensely technical drama concerning the power of cryptography and the people who had a life and death effect on the world around them because of their knowledge. Possibly the best insight into the ancestors of computing in the WWII era. Hugely scientific, well-drawn characters, mathematical, and a truly gripping read. Dangerously engaging in the way that only a truly great novel can affect your sleep cycles. This book, good sir or madam, is for the geek, and a new novel from him is profoundly Stuff That Matters.
I will be hanging out for the new book, and he's got at least one guaranteed customer.
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The codename for the Kindle was "Fiona", as was the root password [blogspot.com]. That indicates that they were very much thinking of Diamond Age.
--Rob
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Yes, hand-written. I saw that huge stack of paper, and all the little pen nubs and such, and my wrists starting aching in sympathy.
It might seem stupid to write in such a time-consuming way, but it seems to work for him. This rung a bell for me: I have a degree in sculpture, and one of the first and most lasting lessons I learned is that your choice of tools shape the final work just as much as your intention does, if not more. The process matters; it effects the end result in subtle, hard-to-identify ways. I did an experiment when I was a student, I carved two marble busts (1/3 life size, I was poor), both of the same model. With one I used only hand tools: chisels, rasps, sandpaper, picks, etc. With the second one, I used only power tools: air hammer, sander, dremel, etc. (yes, that one took about a 5th of the time) I was pretty equally skilled with both kinds of tools, and although I was intending to create the same piece each time, they came out very very different. You can't tell from looking which tools I used to make which bust, but one is far "harder".... more aggressive in the expression, people say it seems arrogant. The other looks wistful, serene, relaxed, playful. Obviously just an anecdote, but it made a big impression on me.
Both from the same model, both from the same initial study I made in plasticene. The process matters.
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But yes, I'm sure the experience of creating the first one also influenced the result: there's no way to avoid that, IMO. The other thing that made a difference were the natural flaws in the marble: I had to work around them, so the posture of the two pieces is slightly different for that reason as well.
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Has he gone back to writing enjoyable books or are they still self-indulgent treatises that he's too important to allow editing of? (Judging from ScuttleMonkey's "...author of greats like Snow Crash and Cryptonomicon...", the latter seems more likely.)
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AND it had an ending!!! (Score:2)
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Let's hope this book is as good as his pre-Baroque Cycle stuff, if so then it should at least be worth reading.
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I'd never thought of putting it into an actual story with a more structured actual separation.
Should be a good read. He can be rather better at predicting how people react to changes in technology rather than how most people think we'd react. (I.E. Relationship role changes and the way we interact fundamentally changed rather than just slightly bent.)
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In the real world, the reason the ancient Greeks despised experimentation was because the real world was "dirty", and many
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Stephenson, among others, clearl
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Well, he might not be Shakespeare, but try reading, say, Dan Brown or Tom Clancy, and then tell me he's mediocre. When you're better than 90% of the tripe out there, sci-fi included, you've wandered away a little bit from "mediocre".
As for Disch and Delany, never read 'em, unless they were in one of the many millions of sf short stories I devoured as a kid. All you need is Bradbury and Heinlein to get by anyway. Everything else is icing on the cake.
Oh, and don't let anyo
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Fair enough. And to be honest, at times I've liked Stephenson - usually for short bursts at a time. His writing is often a pastiche of clever ideas and descriptions held together by - well, not really held together by anything at all. I think he's be more effective if he didn't
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But your lame defensive posture against "elitism" works for other domains, too. "What OS name if Linux or BSD got too popular to like?" You may not believe it, but I like those authors because they write much more interesting and compelling books, not to impress people.
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deja vu (Score:5, Funny)
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After reading Shakespeare, isn't everything since then redundant?
We're all standing on the shoulders of giants, buddy. That's no reason to stop creating.
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Both have monasteries, but lots of books have monasteries... If anything, Canticle was far more nuanced with the whole "propagation of knowledge through dark ages" thing than just a bunch of effete intellectuals cloistering themselves from the unwashed masses.
Great book, though.
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So that's a bit like pointing to Tolkein to claim prior art on dwarfs and elves and magical quests.
Also, whether Stephenson comes out and says he is rewriting Canticle..or he was just subconsciously inspired by it, I'll want to read Anathem.
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Oh, and right away he barrages you with the laughable similes. Just check out the first page of the novel [google.com]: "her head forces [the noose] open
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And speaking of similes, one of my most favorite lines from Cryptonomicon was where he referred to someone's close-cropped hair as "standing out from his head like a field of normal vectors." It was a great little geeky moment in a book full of great little
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I absolutely loved (and still love after many, many re-reads) his previous best sellers. Read Snow Crash, Diamond Age or Cryptonomicon (preferably in that order) for pure Neal awesomeness.
I guarantee you'll be hooked to Snow Crash by the end of the second chapter. Have faith in my words.
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For the guys who hate anything since Snow Crash, well this will probably not be for you. Neal's obviously grown and changed as a writer, and his newer stuff is unlikely to engage you.
According to something I read somewhere, the idea for Baroque Cyclecame about as an idea for a science fiction novel set in the historical past. A long, luxuriously, wonderfully rich read.
For the rest of us, this is like christmas. The man is a gifted storyteller, no doub
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Unfortunately, one can change but not not actually grow.
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Both: either way you meant it, yes I disagree. I don't believe most of us stop growing, gaining skill and refinement at our chosen craft, until we give up or they stick us in the ground.
Growth is change. Life is change. Growth is life.
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I actually liked Snow Crash the least out of all his books I've read. I really liked the style, but the story was more than a little preposterous; had this annoying tendency to snatch a few random, out of context tiny bits of science and history here and there, and then weave them together into this Grand Unifying Theory of Everything. Well, OK, but that leaves out the other 99.9999999999% of everything, ever. Fun
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I have to think that the reason for it is that Neal seems to have three distinct fanbases:
1. The ones who never got over Neuromancer and only like the books where he's channeling Bill Gibson.
2. The ones who appreciate the convoluted storylines and textured histories of Cryptonomicon and the Baroque Cycle.
3. The Venn-diagram overlap of the two, which appears to be tiny.
I'm a #3, but
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Anathem? (Score:2)
HW
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Or a play on words...Anthem...Anathem...Anathema?
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Nah. We just have a new Cowboy Neal.
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The worst would be if he tried to tie the Baroque Cycle, the Cryptonomicon, and Snow Crash all together in this book, like Asimov did at the end of Foundation.
Pity that S.F. authors seem to go a little nuts when they get old.
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It isn't a pity, it is the way of things. A young S.F. can obscure the fact that he is, in fact, nuts by his creativity. The problem with age, is that it tends to bring less creativity and thus unable to hide that which was always there.
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Reading his books, you can't help but feel that he's constantly nudging and winking at you, sharing the joke and deligt of writing as it were. I can see why some people would hate that, or not have the patience to wade through it, but I can't get enough of it.
In that, he reminds me of Roger Zelazny. Lately, though, I find Charles Stross to feel rather similar.
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the forced need of self gratification by grandeur. too unrealistic when repeated that often and in every context.
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I think they just meant "the other people at the monastery" by "cohorts"; could've as easily said "buddies" or "pals". Must the hero always be some kind of brooding solitary recluse?
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Good SF writers... (Score:2)
If your favorite cool SF writer isn't in this list, I'm sorry! I'm sorry! It's off the top of my head.
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I wonder if there's going to be a similar moment in his new book?
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Hush, don't give Neal any ideas for even more revolting sex/romance scenes.
That's the one thing about his novels, the sex/romance scenes will make a normal person want to toss their cookies, or maybe contemplate joining an order with chastity vows. A list of gems and highlights might include sex orgy with pivot gangbang girl reduced to ashes and eaten to get result of computation, or description of guy deprived of sex or masturbation so long everything from his knees to his nipples becomes (in protagonist's mind) a giant sex organ and then he finally relieves himself when his virgin girlfriend impales herself onto his pole with a single extremely painful leap and he immediately ejaculates "a Canadian imperial gallon" (sic) into her, or the King of France getting his hemorrhoids cut off sans anaesthetic while a woman feigns moaning in orgasm so those outside won't know the king is having surgery, or where a guy with syphilis and a half-burned off penis gets his load blown with the kind help of a sympathetic women who wraps bung around her finger and jabs him in the prostate via the anus (at least we can be spared Neal's idea of foreplay).
I could go on about Stephenson sex/romance but I think the point has been made. Stephenson sex is pain. My apologies to those of you of a more sensitive nature who read this and don't have your therapist on speed-dial.
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Look, this is the Internets, you have to be more specific in your insults and more obvious in your humor.
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right-loony, left-loony, libertarian-loony, or just an Ayn Rand fetishist
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Sounds awesome.
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