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Red Dwarf To Return, Find Earth 298

Lawrence Person writes "Everyone's favorite live-action science fiction comedy series will finally return to TV, with Lister, Rimmer, Kryten and the Cat all making it to Earth. The new two-part series Red Dwarf: Back to Earth will appear on digital channel Dave, will be written and directed by Red Dwarf co-creator Doug Naylor, and will reunite the line-up. 'It will sit alongside two further new episodes — the improvised Red Dwarf: Unplugged, which will feature the cast dealing with no sets, effects or autocue, and Red Dwarf: the Making of Back to Earth, a behind the scenes look at the new production.' Personally, I think this is pretty smegging fantastic."
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Red Dwarf To Return, Find Earth

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  • by VShael ( 62735 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:18AM (#26653563) Journal

    Season 7 and 8 levels of crap.

    • by Blue Stone ( 582566 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:28AM (#26653739) Homepage Journal

      When Rob Grant left, it all went to hell.
      It was a real shame to see a show I loved, grow from very humble beginnings, develop into something delightful (despite its still significant budget restraints) and then have to watch through two agonisingly bad series of death throws.

      It looks like it wasn't quite dead though.

      Quick! Someone get a shovel!

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by VShael ( 62735 )

        When it aired, I didn't manage to make it through season 7. It was just too painful. Never saw season 8 when it was airing, but borrowed the DVD's from a mate. Tried to watch some of them but... in the end settled for seeing how it ended. And it ended BADLY.

        Rimmer kicking the anthropomorphic version of Death in the nuts? WTF?

        • I thought Rimmer kicking death in the yabos was a great moment. The show was always corny. What makes it great is the interplay between the actors. There have always been times in the show when the writing wasn't what carried it. Not the same show? Okay. Still funny for most of the same reasons? Yes. Looking forward to this new stuff? Ab-so-smegging-lutely.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by HTH NE1 ( 675604 )

          Rimmer kicking the anthropomorphic version of Death in the nuts? WTF?

          It's a great counter to his (original self's) earlier exchange with Lister in "Future Echoes":

          Lister: Come in number 169, your time is up. OK, what was I wearing?
          Rimmer: Ahhh... that jacket, and that red T-shirt.
          [Lister pulls out his hat and replaces it on his head, then yanks a hefty length of piping off the wall.]
          Lister: You said yourself, I can't stop it. Let's get it over with.
          Rimmer: Ah, Lister, what's that for?
          Lister: I'm goin' out like I came in: screaming and kicking.
          Rimmer: You can't whack death on

      • by ezzzD55J ( 697465 ) <slashdot5@scum.org> on Thursday January 29, 2009 @12:02PM (#26654153) Homepage

        I'm a huge fan of red dwarf, so I somehow feel like I suddenly have the authority to post spelling/grammar corrections in this story.

        death throws.

        That's death throes. http://xkcd.com/386/ [xkcd.com]

        BTW I actually totally agree with you - I only watch seasons 7 and 8 out of loyalty. 1-6 still really rule hard.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by prelelat ( 201821 )

      Even if it's crap it's not worth missing. Even when the stories got a little stale I thought that it was still good I liked that caliber of dedication by the actors and the fact that they are all excited to come back so many years later to finish it off is great. Though I thought that it wasn't going to be written by just doug nailer in the coffin :(

      But it will be a good farewell I think, and I won't have to sit around thinking "but what next" for the next 40 years(even if it's not like the original I sti

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by rhyder128k ( 1051042 )

        "even if it's not like the original I still sit down and watch the whole series some weekends"

        What I wouldn't give to have a machine that erases the memory of things like RD, so that I could sit and watch it all again. Sometimes it would be nice to be like Holly in that regard.

  • Indeed (Score:2, Insightful)

    One of my all time favorite SCI-fi series. I thought Earth was destroyed and Lister the last human being in the universe(well until the nanites brought back the crew?) So lets hope they arent going to go BACK through time. Or have another BTL episode.
    • Re:Indeed (Score:4, Interesting)

      by gnick ( 1211984 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:44AM (#26653923) Homepage

      I don't recall the Earth being destroyed. Lister was in stasis for a long, long time as the ship drifted further and further away, but IIRC, Earth was still there - just unreachable in any reasonable length of time (kind of like Dark Star). (Feel free to correct my bad memory.)

      But, there was at least one episode where the crew does go back in time to visit Earth. I liked it just because it was so terribly un-P.C. to suggest that JFK needed to be assassinated in order to save the U.S. (Not unrealistic, just not P.C.)

      • In the book (and it's a long time since I read it) the Earth still exists bit it's been turned into huge garbage dump. At some point, Lister returns and becomes friends with the new dominant species - cockroaches.

  • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) * on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:20AM (#26653591)
    Usually these sort of "and then they came to earth..." plotlines are cost-cutting measures (so they can shoot in "regular" locations instead of on elaborate sets). They also often represent "jump the shark" moments for a series. When they did this on Lexx [wikipedia.org], the show (which had already begun to go way downhill in the previous season) went from bad to ABYSMAL.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Red Dwarf jumped the shark when they brought back the old crew.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Are you really talking about elaborate sets in conjunction with Red Dwarf?

      • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *
        Point takenb. The BBC doesn't exactly throw big piles of money at their shows to begin with.
    • by Ed Avis ( 5917 )

      For a counterexample, I quite liked the Doctor Who series set on Earth with Jon Pertwee, UNIT and the Brigadier. (Shown as repeats - I'm not that old!)

      • Absolutely - classic era Who, though I haven't seen it since I was a kid, so I've no idea how well it's aged. It's certainly better than the current series, at least through the rosy glow of fond memories.

    • by SuperBanana ( 662181 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:57AM (#26654081)

      They also often represent "jump the shark" moments for a series.

      Did you ever watch the show? They jumped the shark at least once an episode. That's part of what made it so great.

    • by RiotingPacifist ( 1228016 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @12:01PM (#26654133)

      I would hardly call the red dwarf sets elaborate, they look like they are about to fall apart most of the time

    • Well the entire point of the show was returning to Earth so I don't think it's a cost cutting measure.

      That being said, the last two seasons of the show were sub-par at best.
    • by Bemopolis ( 698691 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @12:08PM (#26654237)
      Clearly you have forgotten the brilliance that was BATTLESTAR GALACTICA 1980.

      And I would be a lot better off if you tell me how you managed it.
    • Sorry 'cost cutting' measure, what?!?!?! It only cost them 47p to make the sets (possibly an overestimate) so I don't see how location work would be any cheaper.
    • I'm glad someone else remembers this, it's exactly what came to mind when I read the summary.

      My memory of it is slightly different, however. The first season (the four two-hour movies) showed a lot of promise, it had a weird European feel to it, and it was pretty dark and overall quite interesting.

      Right away, the second series was absolute garbage in comparison. It consisted of the Lexx visiting a series of improbable locations while Stan tried desperately to find something to shag. The plot arc was virtual

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Sockatume ( 732728 )
      Red Dwarf's traditional picture of earth in 1M BC (from the novels) is a giant trash ball ruled by mutant shapeshifting horrors. Quite how that reduces the budget I'm not sure.
    • by Aneurysm ( 680045 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @01:54PM (#26655847)

      Usually these sort of "and then they came to earth..." plotlines are cost-cutting measures (so they can shoot in "regular" locations instead of on elaborate sets).

      Not sure this really matters. Red Dwarf has always been low budget, and the later series (7+8 and to a lesser extent 6) where more money was thrown at it also corresponded with a huge dip in funniness. Generally speaking the same few rooms are used on the ship or often just Starbug. Growing up in the UK you get used to low budget comedies and high budget stuff just doesn't have quite the right feel; Red Dwarf always used to be perfect, incredibly low budget and relying just on script and actors to make it enjoyable. My favourite Red Dwarf episode ever was Marooned and that's just Lister and Rimmer in a single part of Starbug for the whole episode (with a Thunderbirds style crash at the beginning).

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by nategoose ( 1004564 )
      I enjoyed the on Earth Lexx episodes, but unless the Red Dwarf crew went back in time (or they adopt the circular time line from the Lexx universes) your argument is not relevant. The Red Dwarf is supposed to have left our solar system in our future and by the time they get back elaborate sets and props should be needed.
  • by Minwee ( 522556 ) <dcr@neverwhen.org> on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:22AM (#26653619) Homepage
    Neat. Does this mean that there will be flying motorcycles and super-powered boy scouts too?
  • My faith isn't so strong. I loved the first few seasons of Red Dwarf. When it was a sit-com, I thought it was hillarious. Then, it started to turn into a space adventure when they ran out of "situations" for comedy on the ship and started visiting planets. I'm not sure the later seasons were bad, but it just felt like a different show.

    Finding Earth? This has the potential to be something entirely different. Maybe having the same director and line-up will ensure something good. Even if it's not the

    • by gnick ( 1211984 )

      Did anyone watch the failed American pilot for Red Dwarf? Eww.

      I watched it - Be fair. It was as good as the American pilot for Coupling. =)

      Seriously, why take a perfectly good series and re-make it only changing the actors' accents and replacing "chips" with "fries" and "loo" with "bathroom"? British humor is a little bit different than American humor - And anyone who is going to enjoy it will be willing to infer from context what a "loo" is when somebody's had too much to drink and needs to pop off to one.

      • by Moryath ( 553296 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:52AM (#26653999)

        Try asking the average American to tell you what a "bog roll" is and watch the steam come out of their ears thinking about it.

        • Is that like a hay roll, except that instead of getting laid you get stinky and go down to live with little lights?

        • This reminds me of a scene from the Clerks animated series. Randal and Dante are in a clerks exchange program and are working in an English shop.

          [Dante and Randal are working in Ye Olde Quick Stoppe in England.]
          Customer: Pack of fags.
          Randal: You're a fag!
          Customer: It's a cigarette, mate.
          Randal: I'm not your mate, fag!
          [Randal jumps over

      • Those minor changes are important. The Average American is not going ot understand all of the British slang, nor be willing to learn it to start to enjoy the show. Switch from British to American actors/slang can work well (The Office).
        • by gnick ( 1211984 )

          I'm not convinced that The Office's success was really a factor of a switch in slang as it was good (and different) writing and great work from the cast (Steve Carell of course stands out, but there are several star performers there). Also, Steve Carell plays the manager much differently than his UK counterpart - A little sillier & stupider which I think plays well here. With Coupling (at least from what I saw), they didn't even bother writing new episodes or even re-writing the existing ones. It was

      • So far, the only direct UK->US remake that I thoroughly enjoy is "Life on Mars." I think it's a great show and they're doing a wonderful job. That being said I only saw a few minutes of the UK version so I can't say that I like the US version more... just that I think it's excellent. However I'd imagine that I'd "get" the 70's US styles/culture/references more than the 70's UK styles/culture/references.

        The America version of "The Office" is... alright. The British version only had a few episodes (qua

    • How much you wanna bet they'll be sending-up Battlestar Galactica every chance they get? With a title like "Back to Earth"...

  • by hack slash ( 1064002 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:25AM (#26653669)
    I don't care what people think about the latter series of RD, I loved them all but the first series is still my favourite. Looking forward to more of the Smegs In Space!

    P.S. Would anyone like any toast?
  • in 3, 2, 1... actually I like them both...
  • I know it'll probably be a disappointment, but this is like...the Sci-fi/comedy equivelant to Duke Nukem Forever!

    Pinch me!

  • fantastic? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:35AM (#26653829)

    Personally, I think this is pretty smegging fantastic.

    Why is resurrecting Red Dwarf fantastic but resurrecting Blade Runner an abomination?

    • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
      neither as bad as the Karate Kid remake that is apparently going to happen. Jackie Chan and Jaden Smith.... ugh.
      • by genner ( 694963 )

        neither as bad as the Karate Kid remake that is apparently going to happen. Jackie Chan and Jaden Smith.... ugh.

        Hey lets not even joke about that. You are joking.......they would never green light .....this can't possibly be good.

        • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
          I heard it from a friend last night, went to IMDB.com and it is listed on there, set to begin production sometime soon. It makes me want to cry.
    • Re:fantastic? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by AKAImBatman ( 238306 ) * <akaimbatmanNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday January 29, 2009 @12:11PM (#26654297) Homepage Journal

      Why is resurrecting Red Dwarf fantastic but resurrecting Blade Runner an abomination?

      Because the creator of Red Dwarf is alive and well, and is coming back to revive a universe that was created for the purpose of an episodal series.

      The author responsible for Blade Runner (Philip K. Dick) died during production of a standalone movie based on his standalone book. Given that the story (originally "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep") was an exploration of what it means to be human and NOT an exploration of a fantasy future (ala Star Trek, Star Wars, etc.), expanding the universe would only detract from the original creation.

      Besides, Olmos is too old to play Gaff again. He just wouldn't have that same menace about him. ;-)

  • by DarthBender ( 1071972 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:37AM (#26653845)
    Puncture repair kit on standby.
  • Announced on twitter (Score:5, Informative)

    by Tryfen ( 216209 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @11:49AM (#26653981) Homepage

    ...well, actually, Robert Llewellyn (Kryten) announced it on Llewtube [youtube.com] quite some time ago.

    You can also get regular updates from him by following @bobbyllew [twitter.com] on twitter.

    He's a really good user of social media - he's very active on YouTube and twitter.


  • by Yuioup ( 452151 ) on Thursday January 29, 2009 @12:14PM (#26654351)
    I wonder if Craig Charles has dealt with his serious drug problem [mirror.co.uk]
  • When I was in America, I saw complaints that Slashdot was too America-centric, never any nerd news for the English. The response was always something along the lines of "Fuck off, we don't care about your stupid British TV shows coming back or being canceled."

    Okay, I live in England now, and I still don't care. Why am I suddenly seeing articles about things that involve countries I live in?

  • I'm reminded of how MST3K went whereas the show died, and was resurrected, and it changed so much, it wasn't entertaining anymore.

  • Does this mean Lloyd's leaving Corrie? What about Liz, he'll break her heart? And what about Steve, the feckless rogue? Mark my words he'll run Streetcars into the ground.

    WTF [wikipedia.org]

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