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Kozz writes "Universal Pictures and NBC Universal Television Entertainment have closed a deal to turn Stephen King's mammoth novel series The Dark Tower into a feature film trilogy and a network TV series, both of which will be creatively steered by the Oscar-winning team behind A Beautiful Mind and The Da Vinci Code. 'The plan is to start with the feature film, and then create a bridge to the second feature with a season of TV episodes. That means the feature cast — and the big star who’ll play Deschain — also has to appear in the TV series before returning to the second film. After that sequel is done, the TV series picks up again, this time focusing on Deschain as a young gunslinger.'"
It seems to me (Score:2)
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This reads like, "we have a plan that cannot fail! let me outline how we will plan to suck all the life and joy out of King's story while generating the greatest profit possible in a series of alternating movies and made for TV movies^H^H^H^H 1 hour TV drama seasons".
Stephen King has sort of thrown in the towel and is happy to let the visual media butcher his stories in the past, while people buy his the books to understand what the hell directors were trying to convey. I don't see this bein
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Agreed, it sounds like that Star Trek crap all over again with movies, series and spin-offs. It was a total disaster; nobody liked any of it, ever.
Excited (Score:2)
I was just thinking about this (Score:2, Interesting)
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On the other hand, as long as Shia LaBeouf stays the fuck away from the movie, I'll be happy.
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Clancy Brown could do it. He's about the right age, too, around 50 or so. Roland of Gilead was a bit younger than that in the books, I think, but given how hard his life was you'd expect him to look bit worse for the wear.
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Clint could still pull it off.
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Very Tricky Translation to Make (Score:2)
There's so much material there though, how could you possibly adapt it even into 7-films without leaving newcomers behind?
I mean, the TV series piece will be helpful, but that's asking for a large time investment for someone that wasn't already a big fan of the books. I am cautiously hopeful though, and even if this is just something that ends up being for the fans it could be great fun for a season.
They did do a pretty good job a few years back translating Nightmares and Dreamscapes to the small screen *f
Never read (Score:2)
I'm a big King fan, but I've never read this series...often wondered if it's worth getting into. Any opinions/advice/suggestions?
Won't take long to form an opinion (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm a big King fan, but I've never read this series...often wondered if it's worth getting into. Any opinions/advice/suggestions?
Take a risk on the first paperback or go to the library. My recollection is that unlike other books(*) you will get a sense of the story and style pretty quickly. If you like what you are reading keep going.
(*) As for book that don't really reveal themselves for a while I'd have to refer to Dune. Friends told me how great it was so I started reading. I pushed myself for the first third or so wondering what the hell the attraction was. Now while reading the second half I could not put the book down.
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I think it's some of King's best work. It's worth reading at least one to see if you're into the series. The first one is harder to get into than the rest.
I read The Wastelands first. It reminded me a little of The Stand, but with more detail around Roland (main dude) and less background on what's going on in the world. It was interesting enough that I decided to go back and see what I'd missed.
Tried to read The Gunslinger and got bored after a little while - there are a few other characters, but it's mostl
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The first 3-4 books are absolutely amazing. If you like the Gunslinger (which shouldn't take that long to read) the other 3 will be fine. Books 5-7 are ok, but there were times for me that it definitely stepped out of the realm of wow and into something else entirely. That's not to say they were bad, just um different.
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Definitely pick up at least the first book. I was hooked after that one and had to finish the whole thing.
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Thanks for the responses, everyone. I know what I'm loading up on my nook tonight!
Re:Never read (Score:5, Insightful)
"The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed."
If that first sentence doesn't grab you, don't bother with the rest of the book. If it does, then go for it; you'll never regret it.
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That sentence still gives me chills every time I read it, even now, 20 years after the first time I picked up The Gunslinger... If anyone's on the fence: If you've read his other work, you'll probably get a glimpse into it from Mid-World -- or a glimpse into Mid-World from it. It's not Tolkien, but it's very good. Unlike most people, I *loved* the ending, but YMMV.
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The Dark Tower series was good, but I liked Insomnia & Black House just as much.
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Like I said in a post further down, it's good until book six, then does a left turn at Albuquerque. Still good, and you'll want to finish it, but does not live up to the hype. I think King pushed making the key and it didn't
Yes (Score:2)
Especially if you're a big King fan. I don't want to give things away, but King references his other books quite a bit (more in the later parts of Tower), which I thought was a lot of fun. I would also recommend reading Hearts in Atlantis, The Talisman and Black House first if you haven't read those. Not necessary, but Dark Tower is more fun if you have.
One of the things that used to keep people away was that it seemed like it'd never be finished. Now that it has an ending, I'd definitely say take a loo
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The fifth book was my favorite of the whole series.
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Encouraged (Score:2)
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So you're saying a picture may be worth 1,000 words, but not 100,000?
Re:Encouraged (Score:4, Insightful)
I dunno...The Langoliers was pretty good, despite (or possibly because) it's campy script and hammy acting.
Also...are you forgetting Carrie?
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(or possibly because of)
its
Fixed.
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Shawshank Redemption, Stand By Me, and Green Mile are all on my somewhat short list of great movies. I personally liked Dream Catcher, but I can understand why some wouldn't love it. The stand was made as a 4 part mini-series and the book was 1200 pages, so yeah they cut corners. The dark tower series is around 3000? pages and being made as three movies and a series. That sounds like a lot more breathing room. More importantly though, this story was King's baby ever since he started writing. He won't let s
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Funny that you should choose The Shining as a good screen adaptation. King himself has said that he hated it, that Kubrick made too many large changes to the story, and that it wasn't a good adaptation. I think what you meant was that it's a good movie that was based on Kings book, but that doesn't necessarily make it a good adaptation. Personally, I'd be more interesting in a good rendering of The Long Walk, a book which I found to be an almost pathological mix of interesting and repulsive. Like watchi
Sigh... (Score:3, Insightful)
I give it until Blaine the Mono, and then the audience will be distracted and wander off and the project will be cut.
Well, maybe they'll jiggle the timeline a little and do Wizard and Glass first. That would actually make a decent movie.
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Blain the Mono was one of my favorite parts.
If you've read the series, then you know the time-line comes pre-jiggled. I'm not sure how you could get away with jiggling it much further without fucking things up.
It's also good to have read a lot of King's works when going through The Gunslinger series - it's King's "connect everything together" work, like Asimov did with the Foundation novels.
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Blaine is a pain, and that is the truth.
Marvel is doing a very nice and very, very authentic translation. They started with W&G, I believe. It's working out very very nicely so far. They've also got a King-approved-and-guided added section, connecting the end of W&G to the Incident with Roland's mother and the Grapefruit. It's a nice little thing.
The first movie should be Young Roland, his training and Trial, and Susan, the Barony of Mejis, and the journey home. The first movie should end with Rolan
follow the author's wishes (Score:2)
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Excited and Terrified (Score:2)
Excited to finally get to see it on the big screen to see my imagination come to life. Terrified they will destroy it so badly that I will sulk away in horror.
Personally I thought it started coming off the rails in book six and book seven basically threw away the build of the first four books plus how much backfill from The Stand, Salem's Lot and Eye of the Dragon.
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To be fair, he did write those novels and others with kernels of the gunslinger, not the other way around. You are right though. The series did start to languish near the end though.
Excited and scared (Score:2)
the creative team is middle of the road (Score:4, Interesting)
we need wacky and out there for this material
ron howard: apollo 13, a beautiful mind, the davinci code
akiva goldsman: lost in space, batman & robin, i robot
eh
they are excellent filmmakers and producers and writers with a spectacular run of success with solid well-done pop fare and are well-regarded and appreciated
but they have strolled into psychedelic territory here
a story like the dark tower needs a stanley kubrick, a david lynch, a martin scorsese, maybe even a tim burton: a master of the theatre of the macabre and absurd
not these middlebrow crowd pleasing hollywood mainstream guys
for something like the dark tower, we want week old road kill roasted over an oil drum fire by a paranoid schizophrenic hobo. we don't want olive garden
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Yeah, Kubrick would definitely be interesting, considering he's been dead for over a decade. I can see the headlines now: First Film Directed By Zombie Nominated for Oscar!
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furthermore (Score:2)
when zombie charlton heston says we can have his oscar when we pry it from his cold dead hands... is that redundant?
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I'd rather Dark Tower not get "Burtoned". The biggest problem with a Tim Burton film is that if you've ever seen 5 minutes of one, you can immediately identify any other movie he does in an equal amount of time. I'm not saying they're bad (except Nine), I'm just saying that his penchant for the surreal is 1-dimensional. Kubrick, Scorsese or Lynch would be interesting though.
This, plus I don't think Johnny Depp would make a good gunslinger.
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for something like the dark tower, we want week old road kill roasted over an oil drum fire by a paranoid schizophrenic hobo. we don't want olive garden
Amazing description and, to my mind, fits perfectly
GDI NOOOO! (Score:5, Insightful)
The Dark Tower is my all-time favorite series of books, and I'm appalled to read this....
It would need 3-4 3-hour R-rated moves, and Clint Eastwood at 30 years old, to play Roland.
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I pretty much agree -- I don't see how you could really do Dark Tower (or as much of it as I read... I fell off when he stopped writing them for a while and haven't gotten around to going back yet) justice on normal TV.
Probably a HBO series setup like A Game of Thrones is getting would be the best fit.
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Why wouldn't it be done as a series of R-Rated movies? There are also plenty of TV-MA series/mini-series on television.
I'm not sure why you're concerned at this stage.
The last few books stink. (Score:2)
This is one instance where I seriously wouldn't mind if hollywood completely re-wrote the story when doing the later half of the series.
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I completely disagree more. King likes to do weird shit, and that's what makes him popular.
Frankly, Song of Suzanna has been my favorite so far, almost a toss-up with Wizard and Glass. I have yet to read the 7th book though.
Howard directing the TV series.... (Score:2)
TFA: It seems hard to fathom he'd direct a full season's worth of episodes, but that is the early plan, and who says they have to do 22 to create that bridge to the next film?
Well duh. They should obviously only do 19.
Canceled in Season 2 (Score:2)
With so many outstanding series were canceled after only two seasons, like Firefly, Deadwood, and countless others, is there any hope that the same might happen here? The first Dark Tower book was outstanding, and the next three were all right. The last few were bizzare self-indulgent crap where King appears to have simply transcribed his therapy sessions in the wake of his being hit by a van. The man has never written good endings, let's hope the studios do it for him this time.
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With so many outstanding series were canceled after only two seasons, like Firefly, Deadwood, and countless others, is there any hope that the same might happen here?
Easy.
King has enough clout now to demand that if the studio fails to follow through and cancels the TV portion they would be liable for a set penalty that would be equal to the ad revenue for a successful show. Therefore they would have no incentive to try and play the margins by cancelling this show for one which might earn a % more.
That, an
English Lesson (Score:2)
There is a redundant statement here can you see it?
Re:This has suck written all over it. (Score:5, Insightful)
Band of Brothers called...they told me to tell you "piss off".
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TV miniseries has to be the lowest form of entertainment. I'd rather watch the local junior high community theater production.
Yeah, it's right up there with "seasons" for story-based shows. Preposterous, nobody would want to watch that crap.
Re:the last two books (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah... The Shining, It, Stand By Me, Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile... pure crap! What the fuck ever, douchebag.
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Touche. People remember the bad adaptations, but there have been a number of excellent ones. Too bad hollywood's interest is high enough that much of their King adaptation work has been shovelware, the source material is certainly not at fault.
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There are many bad adaptations, even with King himself directing...remember the horrendous "Maximum Overdrive"?
However...the two television adaptations of his works that were excellent were "The Shining" (the one starring Steven Weber as John Torrance, not Jack Nicholson) and "The Stand".
"The Stand" was brilliantly done, and while there were a few creative licenses taken, stuck extremely close to the brilliant novel he had written.
It took me three tries to read "The Stand" when I was a teenager. Every time
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I actually liked Maximum Overdrive for what it was: A zombie-style horror movie with mechanical devices taking the place of the zombies.
Perhaps if I'd read the book I would have found it appalling?
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I'd say The Shining (movie version), and Green Mile are both the exception, rather then the rule.
Nephilium
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The Langoliers was one horrible mini-series adaptation, but I think that was mostly because of the extremely bad special effects with regard to the langoliers themselves.
They used low-budget CG (TV quality) in a time when even big-budget CG was terrible for anything remotely large on-screen.
The rest of the show was OK - not fantastic, but not horrendous either.
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Re:the last two books (Score:5, Funny)
The man in black fled across the desert and the Gunslinger followed.
Next time add "Spoiler Alert!"
Re:Just what we needed (Score:5, Interesting)
If it proves popular I can't wait to see people's reaction to the ending (those that aren't familiar with it). It'll make everyone's disappointment in the Lost and Battlestar Galactica finales look like indifference. I know people who are still pissed off about everything that happens after the "don't read past this point" warning. Personally, I laughed out loud at the ending since it basically came down to with thing: "Ka is a wheel bitches! Deal with it."
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Indeed. My new rule is that good writers are separated from the bad (aka hacks) by their ability to devise a good ending to the story they started. Hint: There are few good ones, particularly in television. It's probably no accident that many writers in television today also contribute to the comics medium. I love comics, but they aren't exactly known for wrapping things up and declaring it done.
and then there is Chuck (Score:2)
The writers seem to wrap-up things very nicely at Episode 13 and then at the season finale. Basically because they are never sure if the show will be back. It makes them move things along. And no freakin' awful season long arc crap.
BTW, Season 4 premieres 9/20 in the States. Again, only 13 episodes were ordered.
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My new rule is that good writers are separated from the bad (aka hacks) by their ability to devise a good ending to the story they started.
Michael Criton is king of the hacks this way. He comes up with interesting starts and middles, then the end is always that the problem gets solved by some dues ex machina. It's like he read War of the Worlds, and based an entire career on that ending type.
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Say what??? (Score:2)
... a happy ending with a problem solved. Not everything has to play out like a French movie.
What world are you living in? A french movie with a happy ending and a problem solved? I thought the French invented the muddy, unhappy, wtf ending.
BTW, I have met way too many Harvard grad idiots.
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No, he said, "Not everything has to play out like a French movie." To me, that implies that all French movies end that way.
Did you go to Harvard by any chance?
I gotta remember that, the next time someone says something stupid. ::grin::
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ARG! I must have gone to Harvard!!! My apologies, you are quite right.
I should just be barred from slashdotting after an all-nighter+.
Never mind...
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Two possible ways to interpret a sentence and you choose the one that made the other guy sound stupid. What does this say about you?
By the way, I read it as "it's okay to have a happy ending, not every movie has to have a sad ending like french movies do"
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That's funny, I just found a new rule that good Slashdot commenters are separated from the bad by their ability to see the world as shades of grey and fine distinctions, rather than dumping everything into buckets of "good" and "bad".
Also, the ending was perfect.
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Funny, I thought the ending was perfect. How the hell else would you have the series ended? Happily Ever After? Maybe Roland settles down with a nice lady and has a couple kids and an SUV?
Re:Just what we needed (Score:4, Insightful)
Don't get me wrong, the ending was perfect. The whole 7 book uber-novel is about two things, the journey to the tower and Roland's character development from heartless asshole bent on revenge to someone his companions could put trust in. From a literary standpoint, it's pretty clear that those two elements are meant to be connected, Roland only ever gets closer to the Tower when he puts his faith in others, helps others, sacrifices for others, etc. (spoiler) Since his character development wasn't complete (his obsession over the tower still overpowered his love for his companions) it doesn't make sense that he should reach the tower either. The idea that Roland has been living the events of the novels over and over again, each time gaining a tiny piece of humanity back (or maybe sometimes not even succeeding that much) is a very powerful idea from a literary standpoint. Of course, try telling that to people that feel they got cheated out of an ending that they read a few thousand pages to reach and they just don't seem to appreciate it.
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I also loved the ending very much, both the first and the second (post-warning). Both could are logical endings to the series.
*** Spoiler Alert ****
A small point: IIRC (I don't have the book near me), in the "reincarnation" he has with him his friend's horn - so it isn't exactly a wheel, some small detail changed and it gives hope that things will end differently. Should we say "ka is a spiral"?
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See, I took at as implied that not only will Roland relive the events again, but that he has already lived them many, many times, each time earning (or failing to earn) a small piece of his former life (symbolizing his humanity) to take with him. Maybe the first time he didn't have his original guns, or his hat, or his coin, etc. Roland is doomed to repeat the cycle endlessly until he has enough of his humanity to value his friends over his search for the Tower, the items from his past are meant to remind
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That IS an interesting way to look at it. It makes it all the more interesting when you think about what he sacrificed just before he literally lost a piece of himself on the beach.
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How can you know the ending when the series isn't finished yet?
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/spoilers:
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King's got to be around to play himself, nay? With him being around 63, its hard to guarantee that he'll be around another 7 or so years to play his part in the films. By the rate that films are made and aired it could be another 12 years from now before we could see the final film.
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