The Empire Strikes Back Added To National Film Registry 129
aztec1430 writes "Airplane!, The Empire Strikes Back, The Exorcist, and All the President's Men, were among the 25 films named by the Library of Congress to the National Film Registry on Tuesday for their cultural, historical or aesthetic significance. Now, which version was added? And will each new Lucas-a-fied version need to be resubmitted every year? ;)"
Lots of old films (Score:1)
I'm surprised they didn't include Birth Of A Nation.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_film_registry [wikipedia.org]
Thanks. I went and out and looked it up. Here ya'll go.
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Thanks for the link to wikipedia... but for those who would like to go to the actual National Film Registry (NFR) site:
Also, if you'd like to make recommendations for next year's list, here are some ideas on possible films to nominate [loc.gov].
Airplane!? (Score:5, Funny)
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Didn't the "Don't call me Shirley" line get used in the 1978 Superman film as well? I may be misremembering, but I thought that that fellow who was the editor of the Daily Planet (can't remember his name) said "Don't call me Shirley" to either Lois, Clark, or Jimmy.
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Didn't the "Don't call me Shirley" line get used in the 1978 Superman film as well? I may be misremembering, but I thought that that fellow who was the editor of the Daily Planet (can't remember his name) said "Don't call me Shirley" to either Lois, Clark, or Jimmy.
Perry White added "don't call me sugar" to his request for coffee from Jimmy Olsen. He was trying to say, "don't call me chief."
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I am Shirly, and don't call me Sirius.
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I am Shirly, and don't call me Sirius.
As an amateur astronomy buff, I would agree with you. Sirius certainly is a dog star. But, since dyslexics worship it, you might want to calm down.
That would be pretty funny.. (Score:3, Funny)
If a government archive ends up being the only place the original un-sullied version of Empire ends up existing. LucasFAIL!
"Hundreds of years from now, in the ruins of civilization, rumors reach the roving tribes of the over-nerd that a pure copy of the fabled 'Second War of the Stars' exists." A brave band of technomancers and their trusty and nubile amazons set out on a quest for this fabled item."
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My favorite part of Wierd Al's "White and Nerdy" video is when they trade a bootleg copy vhs with a cover drawn in crayon of that thing.
It really is more horrible than you can imagine. I had to watch it in two sittings.
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I had to watch it in two sittings
You. You. Watched? (blinks) The whole thing? (stares in disbelief). No. Not possible. (walks away).
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ESB is Star Wars 5. (Score:2)
rumors reach the roving tribes of the over-nerd that a pure copy of the fabled 'Second War of the Stars' exists.
You mean Attack of the Clowns?
Ocean's started at 11, Apollo started at 13, and Zombi started at 2 [wikipedia.org]. Star Wars started at 4, just like The Fantastic. Get it right :p [tvtropes.org]
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Part of me wants to agree with you, because you are technically correct. However, the other part doesn't want to acknowledge the truth in your assertion because that leads to a risk that Lucas might actually make I, II, and III someday. And that's a horror on a scale too large to contemplate. It took years of therapy to get rid of that bad dream I had a while back that Lucas had actually done such a thing, and I still scream sometimes at night when I think of that nightmarish monstrosity that can only be
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Since Star Wars started at IV, the second one was indeed V.
And "Apollo" didn't start at 13, 13 was the only movie made about the Apollo program, and it was about the most suspenseful spaceflight that ever launched anywhere. Nobody expected those astronauts to live, but they and the engineers on the ground pulled off some of the greatest hacks in history.
Yes, I was alive then. [slashdot.org]
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Correction: Star Wars started at nothing -- no sequels, no episode number.
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Sigh. Nobody talks about The Right Stuff anymore.
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Um, my DVDs of episodes IV-VI have both the borked and original versions. Check disk 2 for the theatrical version.
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That's not film. It's actually not even a very good transfer. When creating the screwed up versions, they restored the film from all the copies they could get their hands on, not in high def, and then made all their edits and unnecessary CG filler. Then, they ordered the original film destroyed, I believe. The "originals" on there are from an older scan of the film and don't even use the better film copy they used for the "special" edition.
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Too soon to tell if they have actually contributed (or detracted from) our culture, although it might in time. The movie Bigger, Longer and Uncut was considered to be one of the most important musicals when it was released, as that genre has been slowing fading away. The music score is actually quite impressive.
Blazing Saddles or Young Frankenstein would be worthwhile examples of our culture and the best works of Mel Brooks, who is arguably one of the more influential film creators in the late 20th century
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Ah, good link, and actually a pretty good list of flicks for movie night. None you would expect to see on MST3K.
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Young Frankenstein was added in 2003, Blazing Saddles in 2006. "The Producers" was added in 1996, as well. I thought "To Be or Not To Be" (also added in 1996) was one of his, but it's the 1942 Ernst Lubitsch version, not Brooks' remake.
So Brooks has at least three movies in the registry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Film_Registry [wikipedia.org]
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Kenny, Eric, Stan and Kyle. They fought so hard.
Blame Canada.
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Kenny, Eric, Stan and Kyle. They fought so hard.
Blame Canada.
NO, NO, NO!!!
Blame Celine Dion and Bryan Adams. WE'VE already apologized, it's their turn.
Which Version? (Score:3)
Now which version was added?
This is version 4.38.11.9, the one where Lucas replaced Boba Fett with Jar-Jar Binks.
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Now which version was added?
This is version 4.38.11.9, the one where Lucas replaced Boba Fett with Jar-Jar Binks.
Wrong. Its version 4.39.12.8, where they replaced the millennium falcon with a taco. Please hand over your nerd card and report to your local deportation office.
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Why do I want to mod you funny and kill you at the same time? Is that a sign of good humor, or bad? :)
Timing (Score:2)
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I hope he was buried with a fart machine.
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Now if Lucas could do the same and stop killing our childhood movies
In another generation, Jar Jar will be "our childhood movies"; I was in my twenties when I saw EPIV in the theater when it first came out, and rather than "the last three were high art but the prequels killed my childhood movies", I enjoyed EPs1-3, but absolutely HATED EPVI. Jar Jar? Pshaw, those goddamned Ewoks spoiled the end of the fucking story!
I'm finally starting to realise that all the people who hate EPs1-3 saw EPs4-6 as children.
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No, they really were bad, incoherent movies. You owe it to yourself to watch RedLetterMedia's reviews on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI [youtube.com]
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Why would I want to see a review of a movie I've already seen? I don't need a movie critic to make my mind up for me. But if you want critical reviews, there's wikipedia [wikipedia.org]; 62-80% positive reviews for the prequels.
How old were you when you saw EPs IV-VI?
Lucas got two films added (Score:2)
Electronic Labryrinth: THX 1138 4EB was also added. That was a student film of Lucas' in 1967 while he was at USC.
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It's sortof strange that THX 1138:4EB (note the colon, sir) would be included on the registry when his actual feature film version of THX 1138 was declined. The second was much longer and had an actual plot; the original film school version was rather plotless and hard to follow, and as an avant-garde art film there are much more interesting works from that period-- Lucas was just one voice in a chorus of experimental filmmakers from that period. On the other hand, the web informs me that Jonas Mekas's Re
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Which means that Lucas and Spielberg are tied at five each for films included in the Registry (unless I have overlooked some).
Lucas: Star Wars, American Graffiti, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Empire Strikes Back, THX 1138
Spielberg: Jaws, ET, Raiders, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Schindler's List
Oddly enough, neither Wikipedia entry for Lucas nor Spielberg makes mention of the inclusion of their films in the National Film Registry.
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Which means that Lucas and Spielberg are tied at five each for films included in the Registry (unless I have overlooked some).
How many for John Ford? I saw The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance on the list. Anyone recognize any others?
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If The Longest Day and The Quiet Man were on the list, and they certainly should be, that would make 6 for both John Ford and 7 for John Wayne.
Obviously the people making the selections have some catching up to do. Until then, and unless I've missed some, Wayne and Ford are tied with Lucas and Spielberg.
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Patton? That wasn't Coppola, that was some dude named Franklin Schaffner.
Coppola did participate in the screenplay, but that hardly counts as a Coppola movie.
Because if it did, in that case you'd have to count The Godfather as a Lucas film too, because he was a second unit director.
Without hesitation, I would count Raiders as a Spielberg AND Lucas film, it was very much a joint collaboration, Lucas came up with the idea and was intimately involved down to the very end.
In regards to Kubrick (and I haven't c
Ahem, the other 24... (Score:5, Informative)
Y'know, there's a lot more to movies than Star Wars:
1. Airplane (1980)
2. All the President’s Men (1976)
3. The Bargain (1914)
4. Cry of Jazz (1959)
5. Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB (1967)
6. The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
7. The Exorcist (1973)
8. The Front Page (1931)
9. Grey Gardens (1976)
10. I Am Joaquin (1969)
11. It’s a Gift (1934)
12. Let There Be Light (1946)
13. Lonesome (1928)
14. Make Way For Tomorrow (1937)
15. Malcolm X (1992)
16. McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971)
17. Newark Athlete (1891)
18. Our Lady of the Sphere (1969)
19. The Pink Panther (1964)
20. Preservation of the Sign Language (1913)
21. Saturday Night Fever (1977)
22. Study of a River (1996)
23. Tarantella (1940)
24. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (1945)
25. A Trip Down Market Street (1906)
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Re:Ahem, the other 24... (Score:5, Informative)
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Well, to be fair to them, the list has been added to since 1989, at the rate of 25 movies a year. Also, the selection has little to do with the quality of the films, but more with their lasting effects on American culture. "Airplane" and "Saturday Night Fever" both introduced of lines and memes that have come into common usage.
As far as flack for "Airplane!", comedy is a matter of taste. Personally, I run the risk of hurting myself laughing each time I see it, and it's one of the fewer than 20 movies in
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Ooooohhh... did that sound gay to you?
And no, i've never seen a gladiator movie........... recently.
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There are absolutely no redeeming qualities to it whatsoever, it's a "check your brain at the door and pour a good glass of whiskey"
With Airplane (or any comedy with Leslie Nielson), a big fat doob works a lot better than that glass of whiskey.
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Probably true.
I've always worked for companies with random drug testing policies, however, so the potential enjoyment has been outweighed by ending a career I've put a large amount of money and effort into.
Until I retire or it gets legalized, whiskey will have to do.
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Well, alcohol is an almost good substitute.
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Saturday Night Fever was awful...
The song Staying Alive can be used to time CPR [msn.com].
That partially makes up for Travolta's hair.
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~100 BPM (Score:2)
Any song with a tempo of about 100 BPM (that article specifies 103) can be used.
Another One Bites The Dust, mentioned by the sibling post to mine, also is mentioned in that article.
BTW:
MC Lars, one of my favorite indies, did a song called "That's CPR" for the American Heart Association as a side project; he talked about how he set the tempo to an even 100 for exactly this reason. (Not bad as far as purposely educational songs go, but I like his regular stuff more. :P)
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I hated disco, so of course I hated Saturday Night Fever, but despite my loathing it, it was a cultural phenomena that made it worthy of the list.
You didn't think Airplane was funny? Surely you jest! You probably saw the "sanitized for TV" version; I refuse to watch a comedic movie on TV, because they usually excise the funniest parts. The old white woman translating jive for the stewardess, with subtitles, was a stroke of comedic genius. Black fellow: "Sheeeet." Subtitle: "Golly!" The part where the kid is
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> Y'know, there's a lot more to movies than Star Wars:
Yeah, and if the charter of this site weren't ``Linux, Open Source Software, Legos, Games, Star Wars, Science, Technology and pretty much anything else that falls into the "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" umbrella'' [cmdrtaco.net] they might have been mentioned. For example, if this were a site run by dance fans, the headline might have been "Saturday Night Fever Added To National Film Registry."
TV shows most watched (Score:1)
I think we should add
I Love Lucy
Star Trek
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Oh yeah!
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misbehave
Grunt and grumble
rant and rave
Shoot the brute
some Burma Shave
Pa acted
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Ma thought
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He'd just used
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What, no Westerns (Score:1)
"I'm not going to tell you again,
"Get off my land!"
If that doesn't represent historical and cultural significance, what does?
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HERESY!!!!!
Well, ok, there's Star Trek...
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Y'know, there's a lot more to movies than Star Wars:
1. Airplane (1980)
2. All the President’s Men (1976)
3. The Bargain (1914)
4. Cry of Jazz (1959)
5. Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB (1967)
6. The Empire Strikes Back (1980)
7. The Exorcist (1973)
8. The Front Page (1931)
9. Grey Gardens (1976)
10. I Am Joaquin (1969)
11. It’s a Gift (1934)
12. Let There Be Light (1946)
13. Lonesome (1928)
14. Make Way For Tomorrow (1937)
15. Malcolm X (1992)
16. McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971)
17. Newark Athlete (1891)
18. Our Lady of the Sphere (1969)
19. The Pink Panther (1964)
20. Preservation of the Sign Language (1913)
21. Saturday Night Fever (1977)
22. Study of a River (1996)
23. Tarantella (1940)
24. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn (1945)
25. A Trip Down Market Street (1906)
I haven't seen most of those. I guess I'll do the proper thing and download them via torrents.
Wouldn't want the MIAA or whomever to get money they don't deserve.
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Which version? (Score:2)
Greedo shot first.
Surely you can't be serious!
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Wrong movie.
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Shouldn't this entail a suspension of copyright? (Score:2, Insightful)
If these are of our cultural significance, should we still be requiring people to spend money on them?
Maybe adding them to a list and requiring people to pay money to view them is even more telling about our culture.
Seems like late, but free advertising to me...
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In a sane world, most of these works would have fallen out of copyright protection years ago anyway, rendering the point moot.
In fact, I'd say that only movies that have fallen out of copyright protection should be eligible for this list, since "cultural significance" takes a while to develop anyway. We just need to go back to the 20-year copyright and we're good.
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If these are of our cultural significance, should we still be requiring people to spend money on them?
No one is "required" to spend any money on them.
That is why master prints are lost or allowed to deteriorate.
That is why films [and radio and television productions] disappear from broadcast and cable schedules.
Government support for the arts in the United States is fragile.
Corporate charitable support for the arts in the United States is fragile.
The one reason why classics like Forbidden Planet remain in
Airplane? (Score:1, Funny)
Apparently it represents US culture (Score:2)
Apparently it's there because it represents US culture. Make your own conclusions.
How many... (Score:1)
How many Libraries of Congress does it take to store those movies in the Library of Congresses database?
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Just one, my man. Just one.
One named Shirley. (I'm serious)
What?? Gigli didn't make it?? I'm so upset... (Score:2)
You're kidding ? (Score:2)
Pulled? (Score:2)
It was pulled? What?
Seems Ironic (Score:2)
Why should public monies be spent to preserve any film not in the public domain?
Pug
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So they're still around by the time they become public domain -- and not locked away in rotted, obsolete, DRMed 95-year-old media.
Really? (Score:2)
I thought Reagan loved Star Wars. I would've assumed the SW trilogy was already in the registry
Can Somebody Help me Hide Entertainment Section? (Score:2)
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They probably thought about it in 2002, but had to make room for "Theodore Case Sound Test: Gus Visser and His Singing Duck" :)
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Hmmm, you might want to work on that karma thing a little...