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Disney Bans Selfie Sticks 177

New submitter albimaturityr writes with a story from the Orlando Sentinel that Disney is banning selfie sticks from its parks, starting with Disney World (as of Tuesday) but continuing with its other parks in California, Paris, and Hong Kong. Says the report: The issue has been building at Disney. Previously, the sticks were prohibited from its rides, and "no selfie-sticks" signs were at select rides, such as Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Magic Kingdom. Cast members have given verbal warnings to rule breakers. Several incidents preceded the change, but officials have been discussing the rules for some time, Disney said. This week at Disney California Adventure park, a roller coaster was halted after a passenger pulled out a selfie-stick. The ride was closed for an hour.
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Disney Bans Selfie Sticks

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    What are us narcissists supposed to do now?

    • by grahammm ( 9083 )

      Hold their phone at arm's length.

    • They could go back to posting on-line about how they're not sheep because they have an Android phone.

    • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

      Taze yourself, Guaranteed to get far more likes and clicks than any selfie you can take.

    • by arglebargle_xiv ( 2212710 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @05:43PM (#50008279)
      Oh, are they for narcissists? I thought they were courtesy items carried by selfie-takers to allow annoyed bystanders to beat them to death. I have personally beaten at least five selfie-takers to death with their own selfie sticks. If you go to the large fountain in Buda Castle, the one that people like to take selfies in front of, and look for the blood stains on the cobbles, that was me.
    • Get a life....
  • by ArcadeMan ( 2766669 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:01AM (#50006079)

    The new rule doesn't apply to selfie drones!

    • I wouldn't want to be riding during testing; but the combination of tight quarters and fairly substantial air currents from passing coaster cars in an enclosed roller coaster would be a pretty neat challenge to watch a drone work through. Extra credit for drones capable of exploiting passing cars(riding their air currents in some controlled way, maintaining position immediately behind them if a relatively static trapped air region is available, 'roosting' on a beam and using regenerative braking on their ro
  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:01AM (#50006085) Journal
    I imagine that there are parts of a given ride where you can safely deploy a 'selfie stick'; but what kind of idiot waves a pole around when moving at nontrivial speed near walls, beams, etc. that the pole can catch on? Roller coasters are designed not to subject you to unsafe levels of acceleration or deceleration; but that does not include sticking to speeds that are safe it a modestly rigid pole abruptly couples your moving, and squishy, body to an immobile structural element.

    If you are lucky, you bought a cheap crap stick, and it will snap(and not send a sharp end into anyone's eye) before some part of your body does; but that's not really a gamble you want to take just for a lousy picture of yourself.

    The little racket of selling pictures of the riders, taken by fixed cameras installed at strategic points, probably helped contribute to this decision, doing well by doing good and all that; but what a stupid idea.

    Do people also take care to wear ponytails and/or ties when near rotating equipment? And dangle loose clothing over any exposed gears and belts they find? Or do we have people who've never met a machine more dangerous than an iPad or a minivan and just don't think?
    • by Shados ( 741919 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:06AM (#50006111)

      but what kind of idiot

      You're in a world where everyone is constantly being told to do whatever the fuck they want, and everyone else is told to deal with it. People smoke while leaning on no-smoking signs, people drive through streets clearly labeled as private streets, people scream in libraries, yap on their phones in theaters, and take flash pictures in zoos scaring the animals away and there is fuck all reasonable people can do about it.

      So now you have a rule in an amusement park that some idiots don't think apply to them (as usual), and its actually really important. You think they'll get it, after being able to ignore every other fucking rule they were ever subject to?

      No, they won't. They'll treat the "No selfie stick sign" the same way they will every other damn sign they ignored.

      • Then they'll get thrown out of the park and admission is not at all cheap.

        • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

          Let's be honest that selfie stick rule has absolutely nothing to do with what happened on the ride, that is the excuse. The real problem with selfie sticks is a little more subtle. New digital cameras, unlike old film cameras, can take shot, after shot, after shot with bad ones deleted not costing quite a bit of money each and every time the button is pushed. So old film camera, near enough, good enough. New camera, hmm, didn't like that one, lets try again and again and again, how about trying this or thi

      • The difference is that merely being a dickhead is relatively low risk, so it's annoying but not surprising that people do it when it suits them. Waving a selfie stick around is an excellent way to lose a phone, at minimum, and potentially do yourself some actual damage.

        I'm not expecting civility here; but even relatively dumb animals learn to avoid aversive stimuli; and the slightly smarter ones sometimes even anticipate and avoid them.
        • by Shados ( 741919 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:20AM (#50006157)

          The difference is that merely being a dickhead is relatively low risk

          People don't try to understand why rules are there. "Don't park there" could be because the snow truck has low visibility and risks ripping your car off. "Don't jaywalk" has a pretty fucking good reason behind it. Ignoring non-smoking signs isn't just being a dick head. My condo complex has a no BBQ rule, because its a group of historical buildings that are basically dry firewood close to each other. I don't think anyone aside me does NOT have a BBQ. Someday everyone will roast alive.

          Thats my point: people cannot make the difference between just being a dick head and putting themselves and others genuinely at risk. Rules are meant to be ignored, no matter how important they are, to these people.

          • by beelsebob ( 529313 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:40AM (#50006257)

            "Don't jaywalk" has a pretty fucking good reason behind it.

            It does? The UK doesn't have a "don't jaywalk" rule, and there don't seem to be any adverse effects.

            • by jabuzz ( 182671 )

              Looking a raw statistics one might argue that lack of a "don't jaywalk" rule has lead to increased safety of pedestrians in the UK compared to the USA.

              In reality it has probably more to do with stricter driving tests, structurally safer roads; I am primarily referring to far fewer intersections and far more roundabouts, and on average smaller cars than the USA. However I imagine road safety as taught to children probably plays a part as well.

          • by bzipitidoo ( 647217 ) <bzipitidoo@yahoo.com> on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:50AM (#50006301) Journal

            There's good reason to be skeptical of rules. Too often, rules are not honest. The usual tactic is to not give any explanation. When that won't fly, safety is the #1 excuse for a rule. But so often, it turns out that someone profits from a rule, and that is the real reason for it. Even when there are genuine safety concerns, there is often also a profit motive. That seems highly likely with this particular Disney rule. Why couldn't people use electronic devices or carry nail clippers on planes? Why did so many cities try red light cameras? Why can't people bring their own food and drink to the movie theaters? Why can't we play movies on our computers' DVD drives?

            Yeah. Don't blindly trust The Rules.

        • There are two factors at work. 1) People are seriously fucking stupid, largely because of shit parenting. MY parents (well, parent, really) taught me to stay the fuck out of the street, keep my arms inside the roller coaster and so on. 2) People hate their lives. Who cares if they die? Life sucks, then you die, right? Especially teenagers. When I was 15 I didn't expect to live to 30. Who cared? The world was going to hell in a handbasket.

      • by quetwo ( 1203948 )

        Just this comes to mind : https://youtu.be/oeT5otk2R1g [youtu.be]

      • Half the world is intent on making rules for everything, just because "there ought to be a law" against anything remotely risky or unpleasant. And the other half lashes out by ignoring those rules an doing what the hell they want.

        1) If you treat people like children, they will start behaving like them.
        2) If you make tons of unreasonable rules, people will start breaking them in protest, and start breaking the reasonable ones as well, especially if it's hard to tell the two apart ("You can't bring your
        • Half the world is intent on making rules for everything, just because "there ought to be a law" against anything remotely risky or unpleasant. And the other half lashes out by ignoring those rules an doing what the hell they want.

          Everything not forbidden is compulsory!!

        • Hi, this is a rule established by a business. They can do pretty which whatever the heck they want. You violate their rules and they can throw your ass out of there. Have a nice day.
      • by RyoShin ( 610051 )

        there is fuck all reasonable people can do about it.

        I disagree. The way that you deal with one of those types of people, who I deem "assholes", is a simple idea that is hard for many people to do: Be an asshole in turn.

        Assholes are not going to listen to reasonable people, to polite requests. Certainly try these first, but do not expect them to work and be ready to up the ante. See someone throw a cigarette butt on the ground? Ask them to pick it up. They refuse? Pick it up and stick it on them.

        Nice people

    • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:38AM (#50006251) Homepage

      I imagine that there are parts of a given ride where you can safely deploy a 'selfie stick'; but what kind of idiot waves a pole around when moving at nontrivial speed near walls, beams, etc. that the pole can catch on?

      The kind of shallow, vain, social media obsessed person who carries around a damned selfie stick in the first place?

      This isn't people thinking "gee, this could be stupid and dangerous", it's people thinking "I'm so putting this on Instagram".

    • by QuietLagoon ( 813062 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @10:07AM (#50006401)

      ... but what kind of idiot waves a pole around when moving at nontrivial speed near walls,...

      There are many, many people ion this planet who are so self-absorbed, so oblivious to the world around them, that they regularly put others at risk.

      .
      At least those who walk into streetlight poles while texting hurt only themselves.

    • by sjames ( 1099 )

      Not to mention the risk of whacking the rider in front of you in the head when the apparent gravity shifts, a poorly secured phone getting loose and hitting someone behind you (with great force if the phone rebounds off of a fixed object first), or simply losing your grip on the stick.

    • "Do people also take care to wear ponytails and/or ties when near rotating equipment? And dangle loose clothing over any exposed gears and belts they find? Or do we have people who've never met a machine more dangerous than an iPad or a minivan and just don't think?"

      There's a "hall of fame" of sorts at my old highschool of kids not paying attention to exactly this. One was nearly scalped by a drill press due to his ponytail, my second day in that class some kid reached into the lathe and it sucked him in by

    • by Lumpy ( 12016 )

      Most of them a good 51% of the human population are idiots.

      This is from personal observation and working a few years when I was young at an amusement park. the bulk of people are really morons.

    • >what kind of idiot waves a pole around when moving at nontrivial speed near walls, beams, etc. that the pole can catch on?

      Narcissists, that's who. And unfortunately, they are becoming more common. People these days are incredibly entitled, and it's not the younger generations, it's everyone.
  • Dangerous (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jason Levine ( 196982 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:06AM (#50006113) Homepage

    Selfie sticks are, at best, narcissistic nonsense, but the person who whipped one out on a rollercoaster was risking injury to himself and his fellow riders. How much of a grip can you have on a stick with a weight on the end while hurtling through twists and turns? And if you lose your grip, the best case scenario is that your phone falls and shatters below. Worst case scenario is it hits into someone and injures them. All because he "needed" to get a photo of himself.

    Great work on Disney's part shuttig down the ride until that selfie stick was confiscated.

    • Selfie sticks are, at best, narcissistic nonsense, but the person who whipped one out on a rollercoaster was risking injury to himself and his fellow riders. How much of a grip can you have on a stick with a weight on the end while hurtling through twists and turns? And if you lose your grip, the best case scenario is that your phone falls and shatters below. Worst case scenario is it hits into someone and injures them. All because he "needed" to get a photo of himself.

      Great work on Disney's part shuttig down the ride until that selfie stick was confiscated.

      Selfie sticks are not always narcissistic nonsense. My mum loves to get photos of my wife our child and myself. Its not always practical to get some third person to take a photo of us as a group. Thats where the selfie stick comes in.

      • If there are 4 of you, then there is no reason that one of you can't take a photo of the other 3, and for the all of you photo, call a bystander. This is if y'all are outdoors, maybe touring some place. If you are indoors, it's not all that difficult to set up the timer mode on the camera, and in 10 seconds, get the shot of all of you.

        The only people for whom they're really useful is a single person, or a single person and his/her kid, w/ the kid too young to take a pic. But even then, using the t

        • Or ask. I got to confuse some German bikers in France once. Got out of a car with a GB plate at the top of the Col d'Iseran and asked in German for them to take a photo of me by the sign. Saw them on and off for the next 100 km or so - always got a wave.

        • If there are 4 of you, then there is no reason that one of you can't take a photo of the other 3, and for the all of you photo, call a bystander. This is if y'all are outdoors, maybe touring some place. If you are indoors, it's not all that difficult to set up the timer mode on the camera, and in 10 seconds, get the shot of all of you.

          The only people for whom they're really useful is a single person, or a single person and his/her kid, w/ the kid too young to take a pic. But even then, using the timer mode, or holding it at arms length makes it easy, particularly since you can see how you look before clicking!

          2 plus a baby, can we please use a selfie stick without being labelled narcissistic?

          • Your mom, your wife, your baby and you. Makes it 4, of which one of you can't take photos.
            • Your mom, your wife, your baby and you. Makes it 4, of which one of you can't take photos.

              You aren't getting it. My mom is in another country, she hasn't met the baby and wants photos of us all as a group. Its nice for her. Understand now?

              Not everyone who uses a selfie stick is using it to just get a narcissistic photo of *themselves*.

      • Yeah because you're always taking photos in secluded spots with no one around.....
  • I was unable to watch the video as an ad started playing first. Then, a second advertisement video overlayed that video and started playing, too, covering the entire screen.

    I'm going to assume the reason is nasty teens are trying to shove the sticks up the Mickey Mouse costume guy's rear end?

  • by johnlcallaway ( 165670 ) on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:10AM (#50006127)

    I appreciate the right of people to look like idiots walking around talking to their camera. Documenting their journey for no one who cares to see.

    Why they think that they are what is worth filming is beyond me. Or that talking while filming is a good choice.

    My wife and I love to sail, and watch sailing videos on you-tube. The good ones take pictures of things AROUND them, things I actually want to see. They also either do voiceovers post-production, or use a separate microphone to eliminate wind noise.

    The rest are mostly just crap, only of value to the people that shot them. Not really worth sharing to the public.

    In our motorcycle group, I've witnessed people just vomit their pictures up to the web, with no care taken to edit or even select only the few that are worth posting. No pride in what they have taken, just a regurgitation of what's in their camera.

    Selfie sticks are just more of the same. I'll admit they have some valid uses.

    Too bad most people appear to be ignorant of what those uses are.

    • The rest are mostly just crap, only of value to the people that shot them. Not really worth sharing to the public.

      You mean like most vacation photos ever taken?

    • Well, to be fair, when we go on vacations, it is useful to have photos of ourselves along w/ those surroundings. Otherwise, any video of that place that's publicly available would have been adequate, and people wouldn't bother taking cameras w/ them. Having ourselves in those pics is a part of what creates the memories. Also, while those pictures are mostly of value to them, they are really shared w/ friends and family. What makes it look like it's being shared w/ the 'public' is that too many people a

    • Don't project your distaste for shots of yourself onto others. They may not have the same hangups or fixations.

  • Fuck Disneyland and all who go.

    Disney which is iconic-ally American did an un-American act: they fired their whole IT staff and had them train their foreign replacements. Yes, in the end there was a stay of execution. But here is how it will play out... over the next few years, most of the IT staff will slowly be replaced with H1B visa staffers. Nobody will notice the frog in the water being slowly boiled.

  • It is reasonable to ban them from roller coaster rides. But the whole park? What gives?

    • One possible reason is enforceability - You have one or two people operating the ride, hundreds of customers, and then one jackass with a selfie stick. How many ways can the employee divide his attention?

      Another concern is the number of different places the selfie sticks could cause trouble. They find a new place, they make a new rule. They find another new place, they make another new rule. Or they could just have one park, one rule.
  • Some people are saying that they're only doing this to boost sales of their overpriced ride photos, but that's not the case. I was there last summer and brought a GoPro with me. I had it [securely] strapped on for every non-dark ride that we went on in plain view of the ride operators and not a single one of them said a word to me about it. That got me on-ride video of practically every ride that we went on, and they didn't care in the least. Most theme parks won't let you take a GoPro on the rides no matte
  • When they tell someone with a walking stick they can't have it anymore either.

    Guessing Disney forgot that you can buy walking sticks with camera mounts [amazon.ca] (no endorsement intended on the link - just the first returned result for "walking stick with camera mount")

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