Tomorrow's PS4 Update To Add Game Streaming for PC and Mac, Privacy Features (polygon.com) 64
An anonymous reader cites a report on Polygon: The PlayStation 4's newest software update will be out tomorrow, April 6, adding PC remote play capabilities, a new live streaming channel, and several improvements to its social networking features, among others. With the update, the PS4 will support remote play on PCs running Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 or later and Mac OS X 10.10 and 10.11.You can read more about it on PlayStation's official blog post.
Don't Care - Fuck Sony (Score:1)
Fuck Sony and their mandatory updates; bloated piles of shit that tie up the PlayStation for 30 minutes when you want to watch a movie or play a game.
Fuck Sony and their mandatory updates that remove functionality that you paid for.
Fuck Sony and all the other consoles. They all suck!
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Fuck Sony and their mandatory updates; bloated piles of shit that tie up the PlayStation for 30 minutes when you want to watch a movie or play a game.
You don't have to update to play a game or watch a movie. You might have to update if you want to play your game online, but if that's no concern for you, then you can sit there, disconnected, and play whatever game you want with whatever software revision you have.
If you do want to play something online, then you have to have a PS+ subscription (which is required for online play), which allows you to set your PS4 to download and install updates automatically [playstation.net].
Fuck Sony and their mandatory updates that remove functionality that you paid for.
Yeah, removing the 'Other OS' option was kind of
Streaming requires connecting (Score:2)
I own no PlayStation consoles more recent than PS2 and PSP, so I'm a bit out of the loop:
You don't have to update to play a game or watch a movie. You might have to update if you want to play your game online, but if that's no concern for you, then you can sit there, disconnected, and play whatever game you want with whatever software revision you have.
I thought streaming a movie required connecting to the Internet, which in turn required updating. By "watch a movie", are you referring specifically to DVD/BD?
For that matter, what have they updated previously that removed functionality from their consoles?
In the PlayStation 2 era, it was common for Sony to pull the plug on online matchmaking servers for individual games, even while the games were still being sold in brick-and-mortar stores. I could buy a game new at Meijer, unwrap the shrinkwrap, put the disc in my
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I own no PlayStation consoles more recent than PS2 and PSP, so I'm a bit out of the loop:
Then perhaps you should have stayed out of this conversation?
In the PlayStation 2 era, it was common for Sony to pull the plug on online matchmaking servers for individual games, even while the games were still being sold in brick-and-mortar stores. I could buy a game new at Meijer, unwrap the shrinkwrap, put the disc in my PS2, attempt to connect, and get DNAS error -103 "This software title is not in service."
What, buy some PS2 game in the budget game section in 2008 or something? Heck there are still a couple of PS2 games in Wal-Marts budget game section, that doesn't mean you should expect any online functionality of PS2 games to work. Remember, the PS2 doesn't actually have a "single online service", meaning it's up to the publishers to maintain such things.
Buying some cheap PS2 game in 2008 (or later) and expecting it to work is just being...whi
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You don't have to update to play a game or watch a movie.
Unless your movie is on Netflix or some other online service, or your movie is a BluRay that requires you to update your firmware.
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Right, activities that require access to the Internet, require access to the Internet.
The problems are that 1. streaming a movie requires a comprehensive system update rather than an update to a single movie streaming app, and 2. Blu-ray movies require a comprehensive system update.
Having to update again (Score:2)
My whole reply was based on you taking the console, getting it set up to the point where you can do those things, and then not connecting to the Internet to continue doing them.
If you update the system software to the point where you can watch Netflix, but an additional update becomes available later, you'll have to update again in order to continue to watch Netflix. Or if you update the system software to the point where you can watch Blu-ray movies, but an additional update becomes available later, you'll have to update again in order to watch Blu-ray movies released after the update. The complaint as I understand it is the requirement to update the whole system software, not ju
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Comprehensive system updates don't happen THAT often or take THAT long. The OP is just being a bit of a whiner who either has slow internet or hasn't set up automatic updates.
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"You don't have to update to play a game or watch a movie."
Really? I most certainly have had to update in order to be able to play a SINGLE-PLAYER GAME. This was on the PS3, Metal Gear Solid IV. You weren't playing it without an update. You're telling me Sony backtracked on that bullshit with the PS4? I seriously doubt it.
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I most certainly have had to update in order to be able to play a SINGLE-PLAYER GAME. This was on the PS3, Metal Gear Solid IV. You weren't playing it without an update.
System update or game update, two different things. If it was a system update, it was a coincidence that an update was required. Did you not have automatic updates turned on?
If it was a game update, you can, as was said, back out and update later.
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Please tell us how you really feel and how you will finance fiber connections for everyone that buys a console ever.
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Did you ever see the movie Chappie? (it was crap) but the scene that made me go oh bull !@#$ was when they were using a cluster of ps4's like sony would ever allow their consoles to do something useful again.
As if they ever do decide to allow people to use their ps4's for computation it will be long after its no longer cost effective to do so.
At this point I think the ps3 was just a mistake and it accidentally did something useful.
And as you pointed out other os did not let you play pirated games so they di
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You can't do both, and you never used that feature, only the US army did. No one else did because it was fucking POINTLESS to run linux on a ps3 without full memory or GPU access.
Fuck off. I used my PS3 for both games and whenever I wanted to mess around with some cell code.
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bloated piles of shit that tie up the PlayStation for 30 minutes when you want to watch a movie or play a game.
If you see updates often, it means you're not using the "Automatic update" feature, or you're not using the PS3 that often.
http://manuals.playstation.net... [playstation.net]
And if it takes 30 minutes either:
1. your network connection is slow, what are you using 768k DSL or something?
2. your PS3's hard drive is either getting full or is getting old.
and their mandatory updates that remove functionality that you paid for.
You can choose to keep OtherOS, however you'll lose access to PSN if you keep the older firmware because your PS3 won't be "trusted". It's your choice. Any PS3 update that will
Re: I still rock a PS3 (Score:1)
This just in: Area man tells everyone he's vegan when no one asked.
New Rootkits, Too? (Score:2, Insightful)
I would never trust a Sony device on my home network.
Re:New Rootkits, Too? (Score:5, Informative)
"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
--Thomas Hesse, President of Sony BMG, Global Digital Business, back in 2005 when they included rootkits with their CDs.
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Well Its been over 10 years later and I'm still avoiding Sony branded products.
So maybe I don't qualify as most people.....
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Fool me once and all that shit.
When a corporation
a) does something like that and
b) when caught red handed has its president issue a statement along the lines of "why are the idiots complaining, they don't even know why" AND
c) said president doesn't get fired out of a cannon from the top of their corporate HQ for making such a condescending statement about their paying customers.
I can only assume that the corporation at best condones, more likely supports and at worst requires such behaviour.
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It's probably more secure than your Windows box. run zenmap against a PS3 or PS4 sometime. The PS4 in particular is identified as FreeBSD.
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I would love to get a Steam box for streaming to my TV, but the controller is total crap. I can't wait for Windows-to-XBox streaming.
Casual PC gamers will be happy (Score:2)
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You can't live in the past.
Windows 7 is going to drop off the map in less than 4 years.
Why should Sony spend who knows how much R&D to get it working on a system that is already on the obsolescence track?
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That's because it's not out yet.
Always Available: The New Norm (Score:3)
One of the big reasons mobile gaming is taking over is because it's always available. Practically everyone has their own mobile device, so there's never a need to negotiate for TV or computer time. And one of the things I've figured out in the last nine months of being married is that being married means you have to share the TV (those of you with kids are probably thinking that I don't know the half of it yet).
Entertainment is oftentimes a matter of convenience. If I have to work at my entertainment--whether because I'm limited in the means by which I can enjoy it or because it can't be enjoyed in the amount of time I have available--it's both less entertaining and less likely to be enjoyed due to the difficulty in slotting it into my (now our) schedule. Netflix has remained relevant for me through multiple major changes in my life, thanks to the fact that it runs on practically every device from the past decade and can be enjoyed in whatever time increment I can afford at any given time.
As purchasing decisions roll around, I've already begun considering whether and to what degree my devices have remained relevant to me. Features like in-home streaming help protect against thinking, "The PS4 seemed like a good idea, but I just never played it as much as I wanted to." Instead, I'll be thinking about how I was able to play something like The Last of Us while my wife enjoyed her DVDs of Gilmore Girls for the umpteenth time. The Wii U's relevancy to us increased immensely the first time my wife was able to enjoy Yoshi's Wooly World from another room while I watched through some TV series that she had no interest in, so I'd expect the same would be true for the PS4.
Keeping your product in front of your customers has always been a goal of big companies, but more and more that means doing it literally by making your product available all the time, everywhere. Anything less, and you're opening avenues for competing products to gain traction by being the thing that your customers turn to when they're away from your product.
As I suggested earlier, Netflix isn't going anywhere for us, and the Wii U has been earning its keep, but I was honestly starting to question whether the PS4 would remain relevant for me as time went on. This feature keeps it relevant for me.
"Practically everyone" doesn't have a Vita (Score:2)
One of the big reasons mobile gaming is taking over is because it's always available. Practically everyone has their own mobile device
By "mobile device" you can't mean a PlayStation Vita, because that's not something that "[p]ractically everyone has". This means you probably mean a touch-controlled device running iOS or Android. One problem with these platforms is that game developers can't rely on the player owning a clip-on gamepad, in turn because the makers of said gamepads appear not to publish sales figures. So games that aren't already point-and-click have to be dumbed down to use touch control, which turns platformers into endless
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By "mobile device" you can't mean a PlayStation Vita
I would include them, yes, but I was primarily thinking of tablets and smartphones and the trend in recent years towards mobile devices accounting for a bigger and bigger piece of the gaming pie. By some estimates I've heard, mobile games now account for the majority of both the market and the profit in the industry. As you enumerated, mobile devices come with a whole host of issues, but for better or for worse, they have managed to gain a significant amount of traction, which I would argue it is largely on
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One of the big reasons mobile gaming is taking over is because it's always available. Practically everyone has their own mobile device, so there's never a need to negotiate for TV or computer time.
What is this negotiate for TV time or "share the TV" you speak of? You don't have multiple TV's?
Just so you know, I'm joking with you, I understand how it is, and how remote play on more devices might make it easier for some to get more use out of their PS4. I have a desktop-like setup with a 22" 1080p screen for my PS4 ( and PC, and the PS3 and PS2 before it). It works well for MMO's (on the PS2, PS3 and PS4) and certain other games, like War Thunder and when I had Linux on the PS2 and PS3. My setup all
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What is this negotiate for TV time or "share the TV" you speak of? You don't have multiple TV's?
Working on it. We have the TV in a "media room" right now, which is actually just an otherwise-unused bedroom. Whenever we get around to having a kid, she wants to reclaim it as a bedroom and move the 55" out into the living room, but I'm not a huge fan of that, since I feel like it makes the central space for entertaining guests all about the TV, when I'd much rather it be about social interaction away from the TV. I've been trying to convince her we should move the 55" into the bedroom at that point and t
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My guess is they're probably trying to keep their interface "flat" to appeal to those who are converts from other systems aka former Xboxers who aren't used to Sony's XMB on the PS3...which DOES have optional folder style organization.
Also some people said they hated the XMB interfaces of the PS3 and PSP and chose other systems because of that.