Microsoft's Windows 10 Upgrade Screen Interrupts Meteorologist's Live Forecast (hothardware.com) 235
Reader MojoKid writes: If you're a Windows 7 or Windows 8 user who hasn't yet upgraded to Windows 10, you've probably been bombarded at some point by Microsoft to upgrade, and not always at the most convenient times. Such was also the case with one meteorologist who saw a Windows 10 upgrade prompt show up during a very inopportune time -- right in the middle of a live forecast. Metinka Slater, a meteorologist with Des Moines CBS affiliate KCCI 8, was going about her business, giving viewers a rundown of the 12-hour rainfall totals in the area when a nagging Windows 10 upgrade screen popped up, just like it has for thousands of everyday Windows users. But rather than get flustered or give into Microsoft's demands, Slater laughed off the annoyance. "Ahh, Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10. What should I do?" Slater joked. "Don't you love when that pops up?"From the looks of it, either the concerned computer is running Windows 98, or is using classic theme.
Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
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There are plenty of reasons to have machines not connected to a domain. But you can still enforce policies locally as long as it's not a Home edition of Windows. What I mentioned originally works on non-domain-joined machines as well.
By IT support I'm referring to local IT and any external support (like you've mentioned.) This was totally preventable and if the weather software vendor is providing the machines they should have been aware long ago.
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Sadly SGI is long dead.
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You know and I know, but we also both know that he'll be blamed.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
> This is the TV station's fault for not deploying their computers correctly.
Captain Perfection Has Spoken.
I say it's Microsoft's fault for being so annoyingly intrusive and persistent.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry but I have to say stfu with all this MS defending. If Microsoft wasn't trying to shove Win10 down everyone's throat via that deceptive dialog, none of this would be an issue. Enterprise or home edition, doesn't matter. Full stop.
Now if it had something to do with security or other non-marketing issue then yeah, slam their IT dep't. But this is solely under the purview of marketing.
TL;DR: Don't embarrass yourself by defending Microsoft's stupid marketing fuckup.
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If Microsoft wasn't trying to shove Win10 down everyone's throat via that deceptive dialog, none of this would be an issue.
Windows 10 upgrade isn't the only software that pops up dialogs occasionally.
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I have the GWX app to guard against this. And I have taken to monitoring ALL Windows updates instead of just accepting them. So I thought I was ok. I suspect that when I used the app to download a Windows 10 ISO for use only inside a VM image that it shoved something in the back door. So a couple days ago the computer was very sluggish after booting up in, with Firefox not responding. So I popped up task manager to look. I see this task hogging the disk, something with a name implying it's a Windows co
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I'm going to have to defend Microsoft on this one.
Microsoft has *every right* to try to shove Win10 down everyone's throat, using the slimiest tactics they can come up with, and making life as miserable as they want for their customers.
Customers, accordingly, have every right to not use Microsoft software.
If customers willingly submit themselves for this abuse, how is it Microsoft's fault? Microsoft's behavior here is now well-known, so customers (esp. businesses) really don't have an excuse.
You call this
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
The fact that it lacks a "Don't remind me again" checkbox places it into the category known as "dark patterns."
Put simply, if Windows 10 is really that great, why does Microsoft have to borrow tactics from Ukrainian malware authors to shove it down our throats?
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
It's the user's fault when their software is working against them?
Microsoft apologists always blame the user for Microsoft's low quality software. When Microsoft produce a trainwreck of a UI apologists blame users for not being able to learn how to use it. When Microsoft produce an operating system that collects your data and users object, apologists say it's the user being stupid and that data collection is fine. When Microsoft intentionally breaks Windows 7 in a variety of ways it's the user's fault for using ancient software.
Software you buy should be working for your benefit, not Microsoft's benefit. They shouldn't be hijacking your computer to try and force you to upgrade to Windows 10. They shouldn't be redesiging their UI to try and sell things through the Windows Store so they can take 30% of the proceeds. They shouldn't be treating your as a source of information to be harvested.
it's not the user's fault when Microsoft's software produces failures like this, it's Microsoft's fault.
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It actually is the user's fault. The user accepted all that shit for numerous years instead of giving them a big fat fuck you. Microsoft pisses on users because they allow it. Who's to blame?
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Either use an old version that doesn't run in Windows (apparently they used to run on SGI boxes), and/or demand that the weather program vendors make a version that doesn't use Windows. There's a lot more customers of these programs than suppliers; if the customers band together and make demands on the suppliers, the suppliers will be forced to act. If they don't, the customers should join forces and develop their own weather software collaboratively. It's not like these TV stations are competing with ea
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I disagree. Call me a Microsoft apologist if you want: I happily defend their behavior here.
Companies have *every right* to treat their customers like total shit. Usually, this isn't very smart because such companies go out of business. Try running a restaurant where you berate your customers and provide them with horrible service and lousy food (but still not running afoul of food-safety laws) and see how long you stay in business. But if a restaurateur wants to do this, he has every right in my opinio
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:4, Insightful)
If a Linux system message popped up during a live broadcast, people (here) would assume that the machine was misconfigured for their use case. There is a wealth of information on the Internet about how to deal with these messages, and if you don't have proper IT support to configure systems in your broadcast tool chain, you are clearly doing it wrong.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
Because's Microsoft didn't try to pull this upgrade ad shit with Windows XP, WIndows 7, or Windows 8 -- it wasn't until Windows 10 that they started spamming everyone.
The blames lies with both parties:
* Microsoft for spamming ads
* Anyone dumb enough to use Windows 10
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Informative)
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This wasn't a system message, or an error. This was an advertisement/nagscreen.
Because other operating systems don't notify you in any way when a new release is available?
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It's a configuration issue, but most window managers will inform you occasionally (as settable intervals) if updates are available, or security updates. Still, the messages can be ignored if you're busy.
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Somewhat frustratingly, I learned a few weeks ago that they had a new incremental update blob for Linux Mint since January and nobody had bothered to notify me. Even after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade. I had to additionally go into the package manager settings and there was a button in there somewhere to switch to the newer repos.
So yeah, no notification at all :P
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Let's just say that while there is "technically" a way to disable these popups, an administrator following best practices is simply keeping the machine patched, which introduced this behavior in the first place. If they had done the "wrong" thing and left that Windows 7 (presumably) machine unpatched, then this wouldn't have happened. Microsoft is eroding the trust of their patching system by abusing it to deploy non-critical patches that users don't want. Yes, one would hope that their IT dept is keepin
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No, it is very difficult to stamp down all uses of the Microsoft's Windows advertising. If you're smart, you can get the GWX stopper application. But you have to be on the ball and proactive all the time, and manually inspect each and every Windows update. Even then I found that there were Windows 10 download folders on my PC despite my heightened paranoia. So yes, go ahead and blame the local news reporter for not being savvy enough to prevent Microsoft's abusive marketing malware.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
This is the TV station's fault for not deploying their computers correctly. This issue has been known for months and months now and a fix has been around for quite a while.
Not an initial deployment issue.
A surprising unwanted behavior introduced in a patch, that the administrator would not have noticed, unless they were reading many online articles about it.
If anybody's fault it's Microsoft's for not having provided the option Years ago, so they could opt-out of Nag Screens and Auto OS upgrades at the time of initial deployment, not AFTER deployment, with a new Opt-Out being required for Novel unwanted behavior.
However, I would just say it's an understandable accident that anybody could make. It's nobody's "Fault" other than Microsoft management/marketing deciding to introduce the Novel behavior with a NEW Opt-Out option, instead of one that could have been selected Along with the option to turn on Automatic Updates.... back in 2012, 2013, or 2014.
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To me this is clearly a fault system software fault. And that puts it clearly as Microsoft's fault.
You can call it a configuration issue if you want to, but the change in the configuration was made by a Microsoft patch, so it's still Microsoft's fault.
Or, I suppose you could say that the mistake was in applying a Microsoft approved update. But then you need to take some other approach to ensuring that your computer didn't get 0wn3d, and given the job that this computer had isolation from the internet isn'
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You can call it a configuration issue if you want to, but the change in the configuration was made by a Microsoft patch
Yep. Microsoft is in Violation of the contract regarding Windows Update. Critical updates are security fixes that are not for the purpose of introducing new features, incompatibilities, or other breaking changes.
Addition of a nag screen is a breaking change.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Informative)
What about AllowOSUpgrade in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade ?
This was the original, official way to control it. They then decided to ignore anyone who set AllowOSUpgrade to 0.
Then they put out the second piece you mention. .
The registry location for this is DisableOSUpgrade in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
However the client needs a specific update installed for the setting to actually do anything. This update is not pushed out to WSUS servers, and thus is not pushed out to the majority of clients in a managed domain. It's only available via regular ass Windows Update. Further, there are no complete ADMX/ADML files available containing this definition so you can't set it via Group Policy Editor. They reluctantly put out updated ADMX/ADML files containing the definitions, but they were older, incomplete files. You have to take your existing policy definitions and manually merge the DisableOSUpgrade pieces into them.
<string id="DisableOSUpgrade_Title">Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update</string>
<string id="DisableOSUpgrade_Help">Enables or disables the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update.
If you enable this setting, Windows Update will not offer you an upgrade to the latest version of Windows.
If you disable or do not configure this setting, Windows Update might offer an upgrade to the latest version of Windows.</string>
<policy name="DisableOSUpgrade_Title" class="Machine" displayName="$(string.DisableOSUpgrade_Title)" explainText="$(string.DisableOSUpgrade_Help)" key="Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" valueName="DisableOSUpgrade"> /> /> /> />
<parentCategory ref="WindowsUpdateCat"
<supportedOn ref="WU_SUPPORTED_Windows7_Or_Win81Update"
<enabledValue>
<decimal value="1"
</enabledValue>
<disabledValue>
<decimal value="0"
</disabledValue>
</policy>
If you already have one of the GWX updates installed you're fucked. DisableOSUpgrade didn't come about until hundreds of millions of machines had already been infected with GWX.
The DisableGWX piece you mention is the official way to suppress the GWX dialog. It does NOT remove GWX, it merely hides the popup. Anyone who has GWX still has it, and likely still has Windows 10 downloaded. The upgrade procedure can be initiated without the GWX dialog.
On top of all this, they bundled Windows 10 ads into an IE security update. The ads allow users to initiate the update process, regardless of DisableGWX, DisableOSUpgrade, or AllowOSUpgrade. The only thing saving you here is making sure users do not have the privileges to run the EXE located at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us... [microsoft.com] . I believe this installer will look for the Windows 10 installer in the default download location that GWX uses the same way the official "Media Creation Tool" for clean installation does.
This means that if a machine had GWX at one point (and most Windows 7 machines have had it), it likely already downloaded Windows 10. Nothing you mentioned removes GWX or the Windows 10 download. A privileged user running IE will see a Windows 10 ad. In 3 clicks and just a few seconds, they can install Windows 10.
Yo
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MS got sued for it, and they ignored the lawsuit judgement until the punishment was effectively moot. Microsoft is not scare of something so puny as national governments.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Insightful)
Why should any business have to go through this to disable spam that came with the OS?
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:4, Informative)
Just install GWX Control Panel [ultimateoutsider.com] which not only disables it all, it can actively monitor in the background to prevent it ever becoming enabled again by Windows update.
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These days I'd recommend the freeware utility Never10 [grc.com], which uses the officially sanctioned MS method to disable the update, just wrapping it up in a tiny, easy-to-use utility. It provides some additional functionality as well, such as making sure you have the pre-requisite patches to do that, as well as optionally cleaning up any files previous downloaded by the Windows 10 update process.
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This is the TV station's fault for not deploying their computers correctly. This issue has been known for months and months now and a fix has been around for quite a while.
Where IT screwed up was not configuration of group policy it was selecting a vendor that is both untrustworthy and openly hostile to its customers.
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Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Funny)
That's not true. As a matter of fact I'm trying to catch up on paying hundreds of invoices right now that were emailed to me recently. Only inconvenience is it's a pain to unzip each one.
Oh there's another one...back to it.
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:5, Funny)
Thankfully, you should be able to pay them with all the money from those dead Nigerian princes.
As a side note, is "Nigerian prince" the world's most hazardous job? They're constantly dying off!
Re:Here's a good idea (Score:4, Funny)
That might work. Just send a mail to the invoice guys telling them to contact your financial manager at the nigerian address.
Giving you the forecast, indeed (Score:5, Funny)
Cloudy with a chance of forced update installs.
Missed opportunity (Score:4, Insightful)
If only the meteorologist had said "and this is a perfect example of why Microsoft is shit and should never be used for anything important," it would have been great.
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To be fair, the TV station was in Nebraska, so they're probably still using the old-fashioned ethanol-burning, chain-driven computers.
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My bad. Compared to Nebraska, Iowa might as well be Silicon Valley.
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I didn't say Windows was a "toy," I said it should never be used for anything important. That's a very large difference! Toys are supposed to be safe, but Windows is dangerous.
Of course, I will happily and wholeheartedly condemn Apple (and Google, and anybody else) for the same "you don't own your device, we do" bullshit, as applicable!
Can't Be 98 (Score:5, Informative)
From the looks of it, either the concerned computer is running Windows 98, or is using classic theme.
Since Microsoft isn't offering the free upgrade to anyone below Windows 7, that kinda narrows it down.
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"or".
Not really a long word. To me, at least.
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that kinda narrows it down.
Feeling nitpicky today?
Meh... it could've been worse (Score:2)
At least it didn't automatically uninstall the weather system application.
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or when update 1511 installs.
Updates are just as bad (Score:5, Insightful)
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Get the professional version. FYI got to PC Settings->Updates -> Pick a time Window.
By default Windows 10 updates will only install after it finds out when you typically never use the PC. But Windows 10 will not auto reboot. It does so after you ignore updates for 2 days
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Remove the inadequate tool you've given them and replace it with something even more inadequate, rather than do your job.
If your employer decides that the best tool for your job is a box of crayons, you either do the best job that you can with the tool provided or look for a new job. I had a boss who gave me a box of crayons one time. I did my job with it, submitted my work to his supervisor, and started my reputation of getting the job done.
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If that story is true, that is kick-ass.
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I've heard of slave labor hours in IT but are these people actually logged in and working two weeks 24/7?
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No, a lot of people just leave their computers on all the time.
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You don't have to be physically present while a computer is busy crunching numbers.
Most users told me they don't like starting up their computer and their applications. They want to pick up where they left off from the day before. I understand that. But corporate policy says to log out every night. At the very least, log out on Fridays.
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And does corporate policy require that you clean off your desk and lock everything into its drawers every night as well? "A tidy desk is the sign of an empty mind!"
Someone doing the equivalent of office piecework can shutdown every night. Some of us have multiple on-going projects going on all the time. I am NOT going to open dozens of windows every morning. Applications get closed when I'm done with them, not before.
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And does corporate policy require that you clean off your desk and lock everything into its drawers every night as well?
Yes.
"A tidy desk is the sign of an empty mind!"
Uh, no. Policy falls under Information Security.
Re:Updates are just as bad (Score:4, Insightful)
If the tech -- and the software company you patronize -- are so incompetent to not know how to do updates without inconveniencing the users, that's not the user's fault.
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If the tech -- and the software company you patronize -- are so incompetent to not know how to do updates without inconveniencing the users, that's not the user's fault.
Corporate policy requires users to log out of their computers every night. They have two weeks to log out of their computer and avoid being inconvenienced by a 60-minute reboot notification. Two weeks.
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Corporate policy requires users to log out of their computers every night.
I have a model run that takes 48 hours. Instead of being done in two days, it will be a week (6 days, plus a weekend thrown in there somewhere.) Great use of resources. Very efficient.
Sometimes a forced reboot isn't just an inconvenience.
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If your machines require a "nightly maintenance window", maybe that's a sign that your OS isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Not necessarily. You don't want ~80,000 Windows systems updating at the same time. It's better to spread out the load over the course of a week.
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If your machines require a "nightly maintenance window", maybe that's a sign that your OS isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Not necessarily. You don't want ~80,000 Windows systems updating at the same time. It's better to spread out the load over the course of a week.
creimer, creimer, creimer...
80,000 Windows machines updating at the same time is nothing. If you're managing these machines, you're using SCCM+WSUS or a similar 3rd-party suite. They all have a staging step where shit is downloaded to the client before the installation time. In an SCCM+WSUS environment, you first sync your server with the MS catalog plus any other 3rd party catalogs if you're also using Update Manager, then you create a software update group containing those updates, then you deploy them
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Getting 80,000 machines to do this at once isn't an issue.
These systems are split up in Monday/Wednesday, Tuesday/Thursday, and Friday/Saturday/Sunday patch groups. Out of 80,000 systems, 5% are having SCCM issues and 5% are being held up by users not logging out each night. My job is to console hurt computers and fix broken users. ;)
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SCCM issues? Such as? It's trivial to select all inactive or non responsive clients and administratively push out the client again, forcing a reinstall to clear up any issues. The only thing that really needs more manual intervention on the client is fixing fucking WMI. Running Stop-Service winmgmt -Force; winmgmt /resetrepository from an elevated powershell window fixes that.
If you've got issues within SCCM (as opposed to issues with the clients) then you're doing something wrong.
Users not logging out?
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SCCM issues? Such as?
Error 8004100E in the logs. All these systems will probably get reimaged.
Users not logging out? Your maintenance window fixes that.
Not always. One of the admins implemented a script to force reboot every 30 days. Users hate that more than the 60-minute notification.
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8004100E is the WMI issue. /resetrepository
Run
Stop-Service winmgmt -Force; winmgmt
from an elevated powershell window, then reinstall the client.
The rebooting issue isn't an issue with SCCM or even the users. That in no way supports your initial
You don't want ~80,000 Windows systems updating at the same time.
claim.
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8004100E is the WMI issue. /resetrepository
Run
Stop-Service winmgmt -Force; winmgmt
from an elevated powershell window, then
reinstall the client.
No dice. Still getting the same error message as before. I got 188 systems with this error. The reimaging team is going to love me on Monday morning.
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Anyone letting MS managed that scale of deployment needs to be fired and blacklisted immediately.
Patches are rolled out two weeks after Patch Tuesday and being tested with existing applications. Standard corporate practice. Or should be.
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Your job is to support the users, not for them to kiss your ass.
I don't want users to kiss my ass, I want users to follow corporate policy.
And how is this possibly a problem in the year 2016?
Users have this entitlement mentality at work. It's their computer, and not the company's computer.
In a professional IT setting using modern software and a *nix OS this should never be a problem.
Linux users are responsible for updating their own servers. They're just as a bad as Windows users when it comes to updating their servers on regular basis.
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Don't you dare question authority!!! It will upset the PHB. Yes, the perfect cog you are.
The PHB can get upset. That's not my problem.
Re: Updates are just as bad (Score:4, Informative)
DidgetMaster didn't say it restarted spontaneously.
When restarting on Windows 8 and 10, if there are pending updates that require a reboot, there is a "restart and apply updates" and another "restart witout updates." Unless the user is paying attention it is easy to click the restart and apply updates option.
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Unless the user is paying attention it is easy to click the restart and apply updates option.
And if you need to power off the system to install a disk or something else, the system forces the updates. I needed to install a USB3 PCI adapter in a system one afternoon, and it turned into an all-afternoon project because of the updates.
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Under Windows 10, you can only postpone updates for so long. After some unknown amount of time, they are forced upon you, regardless of what you are doing.
Read the second sentence too, idiot (Score:5, Informative)
> You're either a liar or an idiot.
It seems you're the idiot who can't read more than one sentence, and you're a jerk too.
Try sounding out these words, we'll wait:
> > During a demo, I needed to reboot. Windows decided this would be the perfect time ...
In case you're not aware, Windows installs updates when you shutdown or reboot. This can be rather annoying when you're in a hurry to leave. You work until time to leave the office, then click shut down on your laptop to leave. At which point Windows pops up with "Installing Updates. Do not unplug or shut down the computer. Time remaining: 12 minutes. "
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Change your power settings (Control Panel > Power Options > System Settings) so that the power button on your machine acts as a "Hibernate" button instead of a "Shutdown" button. The system uses zero power while hibernating, and as an added bonus all your windows will still be open when you fire it up next time.
But yeah, if you haven't done that yet then updates
One on Windows (Score:2)
Maybe a demo being run on Windows.
I haven't used Windows much recently, but my memory of Windows was a lot of really silly reboots . You upgraded your web browser, you must reboot. Wtf? On one of my Linux machines, a CPU was replaced without rebooting.
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Waiting (Score:5, Interesting)
Waiting for the inevitable live "I'm done installing Windows 10 behind your back, I'm going to reboot now. Screw your unsaved work!", followed by the inevitable "I'm terribly sorry, but it seems that I can't boot. And no, I won't tell you why, but if you are feeling lucky, you can try the system restore function that doesn't work. Or stare at the screen, that's good too".
Because if you're going to fuck your customers systems, you better make sure that they can't AT LEAST drop to a console and try to unfuck the system. You have to be thorough about these things.
Yes, I'm bitter. I've had to deal with this twice already.
More entertaining (Score:2)
Would be an accidental upgrade and install push
Some things never change: (Score:2)
Life imitates art:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
"That's cute" - Preston Garvy (Score:3)
Primary Screen guys (Score:2)
Am I the only one who's ever done a presentation off of a computer? Everyone still using overhead projectors with transparencies?
It's been twenty years of presentations. You never use the primary monitor for a presentation. For all sorts of reasons. Windows 10 upgrade? Pfff. How about action notifications, java updates, low-battery warnings, and myriad other bubble alerts -- and clippy, never forget clippy. Not to mention the taskbar itself and general background off-camera control.
Always always alwa
How long before someone dies ... (Score:2)
as a result of one of these stupid popups stopping a PC doing what it is supposed to be doing ? This happens even in a nicely controlled environment where nothing is going wrong ... so why stop the machine doing what it should ?
This would be major popcorn time: watching the lawyers from the deceased duke it out with the MS lawyers. MS would, of course, claim that it was not their fault and that the user was doing something wrong, or anything to divert the blame from themselves. Only possible conclusion: MS
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Only possible conclusion: MS Windows is not fit for purpose for any mission critical use.
Of course that's the case -- it says that in the EULA. You did have your fancy lawyers read the EULA before you decided to use our software in your medical device, right?
it happened to me today (Score:2)
Re:It's their own fault for refusing to upgrade. (Score:5, Funny)
Exactly. Just like car dealers should be able to lock you out of your car if you don't come in for a service notice or upgrade to your software.
Win/win situation: the dealer gets more business and users get more apps!
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Not sure if sarcasm or poster is really that stupid
The implication is that I should upgrade because spying on me is a feature? Does W10 offer any other new features?
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But you *did* authorize it, by accepting automatic updates on your Windows computer and giving Microsoft permission to do those updates. You've placed your trust in MS that they wouldn't abuse this power, but they have. Now it's up to you to decide if you're going to continue to trust this vendor or not.
MS isn't some 3rd party, they're your OS vendor, who you've expressly chosen to be your vendor and to provide you software updates. They've done just that, you just don't like the update they've given you
Re:Classic theme (Score:5, Interesting)
I actually like the Windows 7 theme. (Can't say the same about XP or 10 though.)
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7 was the platonic ideal of Windows as far as I'm concerned.
(other than those things they've never been good at like command line and virtual desktops, of course)
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Some people like to waste cycles on fancy animations to make opening a folder look pretty.
But I'm not one of those people.
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Not only that, but whomever, manishs or MojoKid, made that comment in the post doesn't remember their colour schemes very well (or is too young to know better?). Win98 used two deeper shades of blue for the gradient (navy & sky?), the dark to light gradient started in Win2k/ME and persists to at least windows 7.
http://www.guidebookgallery.or... [guidebookgallery.org]
http://www.guidebookgallery.or... [guidebookgallery.org] - scroll down.
Re:Classic theme (Score:5, Insightful)
When XP came along, everything was all bubbly and cartoonish looking. Two or three minutes of that and no thanks, I turned on Classic.
When 7 came along, it had Aero and everything was trying to be translucent and glassy and OSX-y. I disabled that in favor of Classic.
When 8 came along, Metro was introduced and suddenly everything was somehow even more flat/square/boring than Classic View. It's like the entire experience was designed for touch screens or people who hadn't ever used a mouse before. I disabled Metro in favor of Classic.
If you want to call me stuck in the 90's, that's fine. But Classic view is by far the most productive and functional interface in Windows, for me.
Re: Classic theme (Score:5, Funny)
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Yeah. I love classic theme as well.
What's wrong with admitting that you got it right and no need to completely reinvent the wheel? What should have happened with XP, Vista, 7, etc. is that they cleaned up classic theme a little with each upgrade rather than replacing it time and again. The constant replacement of the UI led to moving around configuration options, instead of unifying everything in a single control panel which would be extensible in an intelligent manner.