SciFi TV Series 'Space Patrol Orion' Celebrates Its 50th Anniversary (wikipedia.org) 73
In Germany the phrase "Fallback to Earth!" is about as cult as "Engage warp drive," reports Long-time Slashdot reader Qbertino: One of the oldest science fiction TV serials, the famous German "Raumpatrouille Orion" (Space Patrol Orion) turned 50 today. Heise.de has a scoop on the anniversary in German [or roughly translated into English by Google]. The production of Space Patrol Orion predates Star Trek by roughly a year and was a huge hit in Germany, gaining the status of a "street sweeper" (Strabenfeger), referring to the effect it's airing had on public life.
The special effects are pretty good for 1966 -- you can watch episode one on YouTube. (And feel free to share other related videos in the comments.) "In the series, nations no longer exist and Earth is united," according to Wikipedia, which reports that Commander Cliff McLane and his loyal crew fight an alien race called the Frogs, and "He is notoriously defiant towards his superiors."
The special effects are pretty good for 1966 -- you can watch episode one on YouTube. (And feel free to share other related videos in the comments.) "In the series, nations no longer exist and Earth is united," according to Wikipedia, which reports that Commander Cliff McLane and his loyal crew fight an alien race called the Frogs, and "He is notoriously defiant towards his superiors."
the frogs??? (Score:2, Funny)
So it's a fantasy in which Germans took over the world and are now fighting to wipe out the French???
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Have you met the French? Do you blame them?
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Only seven episodes? Guess it was like "The Prisoner", where it establishes its premise and then wraps everything up. I wonder if the series ended when the spaceship achieved a victory -- or peace -- with the Frogs. (See Star Trek VI...) Surely it's just a coincidence that "frogs" is also a derogatory slang word for French people...
Actually, it ended because it was too expensive to produce - especially the special effects. They are not great, but then it was 1966, and Orion showed a lot more space action than Star Trek, where the redshirts beam down to whatever stage setting was available from the latest western or mobster movie.
The series used the English term "Frogs" even in German. Neither Frogs not "Frösche" is now or was then a derogative term for the French in German.
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Can you explain the ridiculous dancing in the background? Did people really think we'd dance like that in the future?
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Have you ever seen Germans dance? They danced like that in 1966.
Germans do great science and engineering. But give us musical instruments and you get Polka or Techno.
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Wikipedia puts the blame on the Czechs...
In any case; German's should in no case be allowed to dance. At best, it looks so much like marching, the French surrender.
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No one danced like that in the 1960s.
The dances are artificially invented just for this TV show.
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or Rammstein, Accept and the Scorpions. (Who all had their moments.)
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Can you explain the ridiculous dancing in the background? Did people really think we'd dance like that in the future?
I think this is just intended to show that it's different from today. But if you look at history, I don't think this is too far from the envelope of human behaviour:
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Compared to how Germans danced back then, THIS isn't what deserves the attribute "ridiculous".
Explain Macarena .. and I will explain Galyxo (Score:3)
nuff said.
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How and why Star Trek did what it did was a LOT more complicated than simply beaming onto whatever miscellaneous set was available, as you state.
Go read the "These Are the Voyages" books. Even the free sample from Amazon will do.
Star Trek had almost nothing to work with and no budget and went to extremes to make the show look as good as they could. Sometimes they failed but a lot or times they succeeded. I never much cared for the old show but having now read how they did it and why, and how much genius
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IIRC, the name was supposed to be an abbreviation/bastardization of fremde Organismen, as the inscrutable aliens were never really shown, only blurry human shapes where they were supposedly standing.
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Note that I misremembered. One of the characters specifically christened them "Frogs", specifically saying that the German word (Frösche) was too familiar, thus the "foreign language" name.
Re:Two thoughts (Score:4, Insightful)
I love The Prisoner. However nothing was wrapped up. I dare you to explain that last episode with the missile, the lorry, and everyone singing "dem bones".
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"...I dare you to explain that last episode ..."
Really good Acid.
This has been rumoured for decades, but a much better explanation is simply overwork. Once, I pulled 60 hours straight at the Lab, and on the way home, I saw Giraffes feeding by the Freeway. I didn't consider it particularly unusual at the time...
McGoohan wrote, produced, directed, and starred in the last episode, and he was still working on the Script as filming started. Odd things happen to and around the sleep-deprived. (Remember the Dick v
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I prefer "Space Patrol", made in the UK in 1962.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Yeah, it's puppets, but the detail and the attention to science is really good.
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This one [youtube.com] is subtitled.
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Also check out "Space Patrol" - well worth it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
So did Trump .. (Score:2)
.. nuff nuff ..
Lost in Space (Score:2)
Looks a lot like another Lost in Space (which was a few years before this). There were plenty of shows of this sort at the time.
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The set decoration reminds me vaguely of the old German expressionist films [wikipedia.org], where a very obviously stagey set was gussied up with striking design.
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Are you thinking of Metropolis? If so I can see the resemblance.
I stay on the topic I want .. (Score:2)
.. problems with that?
At least it was the topic of the thread.
Well about the "Frogs" (Score:2)
There were no references to French people as such particularly since nation states apparently did not exist any more. There was one reference to "Frogs" being a kind of animal. In the series there were just blurry shapes with glitter. There actually was a French version of that series which seemingly got lost in the mists of time. Only one fragment exists.
The reason why there were only so few episodes was that it was _really_ expensive to make. Multiple German TV stations had to cooperate to finance it. Sin
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There actually was a French version of that series which seemingly got lost in the mists of time. Only one fragment exists.
French TV was a co-producer and some scenes were re-shot with french actors according to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Not to mention the special effects! The army of pencil sharpeners and electric irons that doubled as control panel equipment, the start and landing in a swirl of water, the burning bags of dog poop that were meteorites... Awesome stuff!
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So what's "Men Into Space"??? Chopped Liver?? (Score:2, Informative)
Men In Space [wikipedia.org] started broadcasting on September 30, 1959.
And if you are in the US you can see episode airing on Comet TV [comettv.com]
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"Straßenfeger", not "Strabenfeger" (Score:1)
n/t
It's "Strassenfeger" (Score:2)
I guess the German "sz" ligature does look a bit like a "b".
Should've seen that coming, sorry.
"ß" is the letter, a ligature for "sz" that is a common member of the german glyph alphabet.
But you can substitute it with two "s"es in a pinch.
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If you'd just knew how close you really are to a Nazi.
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Achtung Schweinhund! Ich habe kein Polenüberfallenversicherung für meinem Strassenbahnhalestellemittelstoff.
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Achtung Schweinhund! Ich habe kein Polenüberfallenversicherung für meinem Strassenbahnhalestellemittelstoff.
Jawohl Herr Stabsobergruppentruppstandartenscharführer!
"Frogs" - Fremde Rasse ohne galagtische Signatur. (Score:3)
"Foreign race without galactic signature."
Not exactly french, but maybe close enough, depending on your point of view. :-)
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IIRC that nickname was chosen because it sounded "alien", yet familiar enough, and of course it had to sound cool and edgy. And in the 60s, anything "English" was absolutely edgy and cool.
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'Frog' was coined by the Brits.
Also: http://www.rsdb.org/ [rsdb.org]
Missing a lot.
Dutch: missing 'Swamp German'
SF Bay area citizen: no entry, missing 'Bay Aryan'.
Disappointing Belgian entry. Half from Monty Python.
Lydia van Dyke (Score:2)
Luckily this name is taken on Eve Online.
Guess by whom ...
Played by Charlotte Kerr, one of the most beautiful women who ever lived. RIP.
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I'm guessing that this handle is taken by a guy?
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Obviously, as the game is only played by guys.
Well, not true, about 1% - 2% are women.
I actually don't play her, I only took the name and tried to make a nice portrait for her ...
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You are so right.
Every time she is on-screen I have to watch the scene at least three time to be able to finally read the subtitles, I just can't take my eyes off her
Predates Star Trek by a year? (Score:1)
The production of Space Patrol Orion predates Star Trek by roughly a year
I guess production is the magic word.
Because we already celebrated Star Trek's 50th this year. And somehow this show – which also aired in 1966 if we're celebrating its 50th now – predates Star Trek.
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Not in Germany, Star Trek was unkown for many years.
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The difference between Star Trek & RP Orion (Score:2)
First the similarities:
Cliff Mclane / James T. Kirk
- good looking
- strong
- black sheep
Now the difference
General Lydia van Dyke (high ranking female) disciplining Cliff Mclane and not getting layed!
English Subtitles (Score:4, Funny)
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It was so expensive, they even used a clothes iron as a prop on the ship's bridge.
Yes. That iron ("Bügeleisen" in German) actually has cult status. It's basically a national heritage. :-)