SoundCloud Halts Volunteer Archiving Project (vice.com) 48
Slashdot reader nielo tipped us off to more SoundCloud news. Motherboard reports:
Last week, a group of volunteer digital preservationists known as The Archive Team announced they would be attempting to independently archive a 123.6 million track, 900-terabyte swath of SoundCloud, the popular streaming music and audio service that recently announced mass layoffs and office closures, sparking fears of an imminent closure. But just as the volunteer archive of SoundCloud was due to be getting started, it's been abruptly called off at the behest of the company... I reached out to SoundCloud for more information, and a spokesperson responded with the following written statement: "SoundCloud is dedicated to protecting the rights and content of the creators who share their work on SoundCloud. We requested the Archive Team halt their efforts as any action to take content from SoundCloud violates our Terms of Use and infringes on our users' rights... SoundCloud is not going away -- not in 50 days, not in 80 days or anytime in the foreseeable future..." But that hasn't stopped some individuals on Reddit's r/datahoarder subreddit from attempting to gather their own personal archives of as much of SoundCloud as they want and can afford to host.
Re: They should talk to The Pirate Bay (Score:2)
They don't host much of anything, except magnet links and very small .torrent files.
Re: copyright is a crime against humanity (Score:3, Insightful)
Stealing my ideas and claiming them as your own is also an affront to my humanity.
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creimer, the three seats you take up on the bus are an affront to the rest of humanity.
Not only are you posting in the wrong thread, you're posting under a story that creimer hasn't even posted in yet.
Now, how about trying to stay a bit on topic? Here' I'll show you how it's done:
Soundcloud is probably hosed, but whether it is or not, it is acting within the law. If you don't like it, whining won't change anything. Instead of whining, why not try to change the law? If you're going to complain that it's too hard to change the law, you still have another alternative - create your own music an
Re: copyright is a crime against humanity (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, will you look at that. The original length of copyright was just 14 years. Gradually, over the centuries, it's been bastardized to the current ridiculous life plus 70-120 years. Can you imagine if we had to pay for other things for that long? We'd still be paying the progeny of the people who worked on building the Brooklyn Bridge.
Scale copyright's duration back down to about 20 years (or hell, even 40 years - average length of a career), and most of these problems disappear on their own. Yes you should get credit for and be able to profit from thinking up clever ideas. No you and your progeny should not be able to extract a toll from society in perpetuity for using the idea.
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you and your progeny should not be able to extract a toll from society in perpetuity for using the idea.
What a great idea! I think i'll copyright it --- in perpetuity. So my 35th future grandson will still be profiting from this. Super!
Now all I need is a wife.
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Stealing my ideas and claiming them as your own is also an affront to my humanity.
That would be plagiarism, which is very different from unauthorized copying. As an artist, I want to be seen and heard as widely as possible, while being recognized as the author of my works. This means I don't care too much for copyright protections, except the part about authorship.
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See my sig -- we're getting more and more proofs that copyright is one of worst long-term evils.
Yeah, that you can't copy music for free - other than those the artist has given permission or that's older than Mickey Mouse - is clearly one of the true great evils. I mean it's not like the world is now accumulating every shitty two-bit wannabe who knows how to abuse an instrument and there's enough music, TV series, movies, porn and computer games to waste several lifetimes. It's not like we got any more serious issues going on we should fix first...
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Please read the second discussion I linked to. It's not about a random person freeloading on that Bieber video, it's about putting massive barriers to creating new works and to transmitting culture.
Being content that you can live, eat and copulate is what animals do. It's important, yeah, but for me "humanity" means things what make us different from non-human animals, and most of that difference can be called "culture". Copyright is the current biggest obstacle to creation and transmission of culture, e
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How is copyright theft? You can argue that it impedes progress, but it sure isn't stealing from anyone.
not in 50 days, not in 80 days (Score:2, Insightful)
...so...90 days then, thanks for the heads up
the death spiral has begun
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...so...90 days then
Why this unwarranted optimism? Be realistic, 81 at the most.
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A couple of weeks ago it was reported that Soundcloud cofounder Alexander Ljung said the company only had enough money to survive until the fourth quarter of this year — which begins in 50 days.
Soundcloud responded to this with an official statement saying "SoundCloud is fully funded into the fourth quarter."
Note that they don't say they are fully funded to the end of the 4th quarter, just "into" the 4th quarter.
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At least the mass layoffs came first (Score:2)
Good luck coding around the attempts at mass archiving without any programmers...
90 days (Score:3)
She conveniently left out that typical interval. I'd say 90 days, sound cloud will be no more.
sigh (Score:2)
Yet another reminder... (Score:2)
Remember kids, "The Cloud" means someone else's computer. And you may have signed over your data to them too! Hope you read all the fine print.
The cloud = Mainframe and trying to get access to (Score:1)
....and you are still paying for time on it, either through ads, giving up your privacy or any other means or a combination thereof.
(Still gets the shivers when "batch processing" ment giving a deck of punch cards with a program to a mainframe operator and waiting hours or days for a printout of the results, hoping you didn't fuck anything up in the meantime)
STFU!!! (Score:3)