NVIDIA Drops the Basic Shield TV's Price To $180 (engadget.com) 66
An anonymous reader shares a report: NVIDIA's Shield TV promised to be an Android set-top box for gamers, and in that sense, it delivered. The company first released it in 2015, but its updated version cut down on price by bundling the $50 remote in to make the base-tier $200 version more cost-efficient. Now they're dropping that price down to $180, which is an even better deal. NVIDIA is keeping the $200 tier by bundling in its normally $60 controller alongside the included remote.
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For $200 I could just build a regular PC or buy a pretty sweet used machine. I don't get it.
I doubt that would be as silent and as UHD capable as the Shield TV box. I'll agree it's not for everyone, but the Shield TV box is the best purchase I've done in years.
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Plenty of cheap Android boxes do it in hardware and cost $50.
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With 4K _and_ HDR support?
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Not to forgot Vulkan ?
(I bought one as a X1 test machine)
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Also, supporting 4K is not the same thing as having the authorization to deliver it. Shit tons of PCs have a fully 4k-compliant delivery chain but unless you're running Edge on Windows 10, Netflix is only going to be 720p no matter what you do. Likewise, some Android client devices have special authorization to deliver 4k while others don't.
IMO, the Shield TV is a decent product that's priced a bit too high. You can stream some games to it and it can kinda-sorta act as a Plex Server with limited transcoding
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Also, supporting 4K is not the same thing as having the authorization to deliver it. Shit tons of PCs have a fully 4k-compliant delivery chain but unless you're running Edge on Windows 10, Netflix is only going to be 720p no matter what you do. Likewise, some Android client devices have special authorization to deliver 4k while others don't.
IMO, the Shield TV is a decent product that's priced a bit too high. You can stream some games to it and it can kinda-sorta act as a Plex Server with limited transcoding support, but even as someone who has a 4k HDR TV, I recognize that the use case for those things above and beyond the feature set of a FireTV or Roku box are pretty limited.
I haven't noticed any limitations on its PLEX server. And Nvidias support is extremely good.
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The Shield's Plex Server chokes on transcoding two 1080p streams for non-local clients. I've tested 10x3Mbps streams against the Xeon E5 rig I normally use for Plex and it's held up. I don't think a workload of 3 streams is too much to ask and I'm not going to re-encode all my videos to inferior formats just to keep my media server from using cycles that it should have available.
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The Shield's Plex Server chokes on transcoding two 1080p streams for non-local clients. I've tested 10x3Mbps streams against the Xeon E5 rig I normally use for Plex and it's held up. I don't think a workload of 3 streams is too much to ask and I'm not going to re-encode all my videos to inferior formats just to keep my media server from using cycles that it should have available.
Oh ok, thats not a scenario I ever hit, I just use it with the local client.
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I don't disagree, but at the same time the pirated files probably aren't full bit rate 4k HDR originals, which is something I don't mind for a series like Sense8 or Luke Cage.
A 1080p/6 channel copy of House of Cards is easy to come by on a torrent site but I *do* pay for Netflix (and I have since 1998) and I *do* have an AV setup that supports the whole 8 speaker/60fps 4k/HDR, and since I'm in the rarefied group that can, I'd prefer to.
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For $200 I could just build a regular PC or buy a pretty sweet used machine. I don't get it.
I doubt that would be as silent and as UHD capable as the Shield TV box. I'll agree it's not for everyone, but the Shield TV box is the best purchase I've done in years.
As a set top box the shield can't be beaten for quality. Add to that Nvidia's enterprise-grade support for their customers (I've had extremely good support from them including a forward RMA replacement for a controller).
Building your own computer might be cheaper but it's not a superior option when you just want to stream content or use PLEX server (which is built into the shield tv).
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It's not just Android games, though. I can stream a large part of my Steam library to my TV using the Shield. It's a nice device. Granted, yes, it's expensive, but the device, the controller and the packaging are all premium quality. The remote needs work (stupid unlabeled volume slider). I watch a lot of YouTube on it. I stream my media to it via Plex. I use it for Netflix. I play games on it.
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According to Google, the game runs on your PC, you're just "casting" it to the shield via wifi.
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I use the steam link. I have a pretty beefy computer in the living room but I don't game enough to build another one for the bedroom. It's pretty nice being able to play games in either room.
I already had a firetv otherwise I probably would have went for the shield since the cost of the firetv + steam link + controller would come pretty close and would stop me from messing with different inputs and having multpile devices plugged in the bedroom
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But you can do that without a shield too. Just install moonlight, it understands nvidia's streaming protocol so it can talk to GFE running on your pc and stream just the same as the shield does
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And I can stream ALL of my Steam library to my TV with my $30 Steam Link. nVidia has missed the boat on this market segment big time. The Shield is overpriced for what it does and that might have been OK when it was one of the few games in town, but now everyone and their dog can do it as well or better for less. Between my Steam Link and a Minix mini Windows 10 box I picked up for $170 CDN on sale, I have everything I want. The Minix runs Kodi for all my media and some emulation, Steam Link for PC gamin
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No, the Shield does have exclusive games (in addition to the regular Google Play ones).
Not that this matters, the "real" gamers are not buying the Shield.
And most of the people I know (two acquaintances, not very many) who have the Shield use it mostly to cast youtube videos and chrome tabs to it. And so, I'm pretty sure that they didn't need an Android TV, let alone an overpowered one with its own set of high graphics games.
A simple $35 Chromecast would have done the trick.
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...but the Xiaomi Wi box is supposed to be superb and available for $70.
I think you mean the Mi Box [androidcentral.com] . I don't see Nintendo letting that fly having another device that hooks to your TV and plays games with a name that's phonetically the same.
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doesn't the Shield just play Android games anyway?
There are a few last-gen AAA titles that have been ported. Certainly would not satisfy a hardcore gamer though.
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Nice slashvertisement, there (Score:2)
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These kinds of slashvertisements often backfire, because people come to Slashdot to read the comments, and the comments often point out better alternatives for cheaper.
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I can't for the life of me figure out why I would want to buy this thing.
Moreover, you need a Google account to use the Shield. Am I not getting stalked enough by Google that I need to have them snoop on my TV viewing as well? Blow this for a game of soldiers.
A weak console and a less-featured Roku (Score:2)
The best of both worlds.
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Show me where Roku can run Kodi.
ok... https://www.dailydot.com/debug... [dailydot.com] Google is hard for some.
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That's screen mirroring, not Kodi running on the Roku. Roku has proved pretty difficult to (or not worth, depending on who you ask) cracking open.
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Show me where Roku can run Kodi.
or PLEX server.
Also, if you live outside the USA, Roku support is total shit.
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If you RTFA you'd see that they knocked $20 off the price if you leave out the $60 gamepad.
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All Shield TVs used to come with a controller. What they're doing now is dropping the $60 controller but only giving you a $20 break on the price. Not worth it.
As a Shield TV owner I'm really happy with the quality and performance of the hardware. The problem is the damn this is crippled by only running Android TV so can only get Android TV apps without much fiddling, and generally speaking there's not a lot of software available for it.
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All Shield TVs used to come with a controller. What they're doing now is dropping the $60 controller but only giving you a $20 break on the price. Not worth it.
As a Shield TV owner I'm really happy with the quality and performance of the hardware. The problem is the damn this is crippled by only running Android TV so can only get Android TV apps without much fiddling, and generally speaking there's not a lot of software available for it.
They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
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They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
The $180 one only comes with a remote, no game controller. But there are so few games for the controller it's probably not a big deal. Main advantage is the battery life when using headphones is better on the gamepad than on the remote.
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They come with a game controller, which is a bit bulky for use as a remote control. However, it is controllable with the android tv app on a phone.
The $180 one only comes with a remote, no game controller. But there are so few games for the controller it's probably not a big deal. Main advantage is the battery life when using headphones is better on the gamepad than on the remote.
Ok that's funny, because until now it was the other way around and the slimline remote was an extra!
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The remote has been bundled in it for quite some time, I think at least a year. Definitely the old shield that was much bigger (2015) didn't include the remote unless you upgraded to the "Pro" bundle. I think the change over for a free remote occurred when they removed the microSD slot.
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... 10% off a product that nobody gives a shit about (or even knows existed) is news?