Sony Blunders By Uploading Full Movie To YouTube Instead of Trailer (torrentfreak.com) 113
Instead of uploading a trailer of "Khali the Killer," an upcoming move from Sony Pictures Entertainment, the conglomerate accidentally uploaded the entire movie on Google's video platform, according to users. TorrentFreak: When we started writing this article the movie had around 8,000 views. Just a few paragraphs later that had swelled to almost 11,000. However, while news may be traveling quickly, those numbers probably won't reach epic levels anytime soon.
As usual, the comments on YouTube are absolutely brutal. The section includes gems such as "Trailer gave the whole plot away. Pass," "It's just the trailer the whole movie will be 4 hours," and the rather blunt "Someone's getting the sackï."
As usual, the comments on YouTube are absolutely brutal. The section includes gems such as "Trailer gave the whole plot away. Pass," "It's just the trailer the whole movie will be 4 hours," and the rather blunt "Someone's getting the sackï."
If you think that's bad... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Have you ever designed anything resembling uploads over HTTP?
I didn't think so....
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+1 Sheik Yerbouti
Dear Sony... (Score:5, Funny)
...I would like to see more trailers like this. For every film.
Shadenfreude (Score:5, Informative)
Thanks! I needed a good laugh today, to get my mind off my own mistakes.
However much you have effed up yourself, there is always a bigger idiot who did something bigger.
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It's a "feast" for the trolls (Score:2)
Now, let those who hate SONY begin trolling the poor company.
I used to love their products. Not any more.
I can see someone getting fired, fast!
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Ok. I wonder if the trailer has a rootkit.
Maybe I'm cynical... (Score:5, Interesting)
Maybe I'm cynical... but I wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose to get people talking about the movie that otherwise no one would have heard of.
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Exactly. A couple thousand views is hardly a significant loss of potential sales.
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a modest settlement from each of the 'views' would pay production costs and turn a profit... even with their usual accounting practices and including lawyer fees... all without a single ticket sold in the theaters.
If Sony uploaded the movie then it's not copyright infringement to have viewed it, since it was provided by the distribution rights holder.
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That's where you're wrong. According to MPAA logic, every pirated copy equals one million copies so this mistake means they lost 50 quazillion dollars and everyone on the planet has already seen the movie eight times.
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According to MPAA logic, every pirated copy equals one million copies so this mistake means they lost 50 quazillion dollars
That's the downside of torrents. It makes everybody that uses them a distributor as opposed to just a single infringement. It's prohibitively expensive to sue everybody that just watches something on YouTube for a minimal amount of damages.
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You underestimate the greed of corporations like Sony. These are according to their delusions 11.000 people who would have spent 20 bucks each to watch that movie in a theater.
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That's what I was thinking too. Why would marketing even have the entire film in the same directory as the trailer? Wouldn't it just be emailed across the company network or somesuch?
And didn't they notice it taking even many further hours to upload.
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I love how your "conservative" estimate is the highest theoretical limit that a corporate PC is likely to be connected with to the internal network.
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most large companies have multi-gigabit wan links
And then set up their internal network so that a handful of people could saturate it ?
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Yes. Let everyone use as much bandwidth as they want until you're saturated.
When people are contesting for bandwidth, then you start parceling it out.
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Who cares about WAN? I just got a very corporate workstation from HP and it has a bog-standard Intel gigabit ethernet port. Your WAN can pass 1 Tbps and it won't make your LAN go any faster.
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No shit, Sherlock. That's why their estimate was okay.
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I didn't say it wasn't "okay", Watson. I said it wasn't "conservative". It's the highest likely speed.
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Not sure why I'm replying, but it's actually a pretty good workstation - and almost certainly better than whatever Sony's marketing intern uses to upload social media crap.
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Whoever uploaded it probably uploaded, then simply went to work on another window. I've uploaded many things to Youtube, and it takes more time to "process" then to upload itself, so you don't wait around. Heck, they may have gone and gotten coffee and not realized how long it actually took.
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I've got a gigabit connection at my workstation and can easily hit near that at speedtest.net.
If I had a business use case for it they'd give me a 10 gig connection. (We actually considered this a few years back when a neighboring office was rewiring with CAT 6, but the cost to rewire our office was too high. Today, I kind of regret not voting to do it because we're storing more stuff externally and the fatter pipe would help.)
Our network people consistently tell us they WANT the network to be used fully.
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I doubt a 2 minute YouTube video requires a fatter pipe than 1gbps to do one's job effectively. That's not a business case.
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Really? You think their summer intern posting 2 minute trailers to Youtube is being held back by gigabit speeds? Alrighty then.
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It's not unreleased. IMDB Is your friend. It's a crappy direct-to-Bluray movie from last November.
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Why would marketing even have access to the whole movie?
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Why would marketing even have access to the whole movie?
A trailer is pretty much a giant ad. Why wouldn't marketing be involved in the creation of it? They're probably also making posters and billboards and paper ads and merchandise design and whatever, lots of reasons they could have access to the whole movie. It makes everything easier until someone screws up...
Re: Maybe I'm cynical... (Score:5, Informative)
I work in the industry and upload trailers and complete screeners of the entire film all the time. The trailer and the film are often the same file size because my trailer is usually in 4K ProRes HQ which will be about 4gb. My screener is compressed heavily to H264 and also usually about 4gb. They could be named similarly as well and in the same folder. So I see exactly how this could happen.
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Shouldn't the trailers also be compressed heavily to H264?
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Re:Maybe I'm cynical... (Score:4)
You're not cynical, just observant.
Sony did the exact same thing with the crappy movie "The Interview". Thy had a turd on their hands and they tossed it out into the open just to get some attention for it. Bonus - they used this to divert attention from the fact that their massive security breach was an inside job. Remember when the intelligence agencies were trying to blame North Korea for it and stir the pot for cyber warfare and other imagined bullshit? Absolutely no one credible in the security sector believes there is any evidence that NK was involved at all in the Sony hack. Oh, and remember when actual hackers dumped all the NSA tools on the net and we all learned that a key focus of their toolkits is making it look like attacks originated from Russia, China, NK, etc. so they could engineer false flag operations?
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You can search Slashdot for The Shadow Brokers.
A year or so ago, they dumped a whole buttload of tools and exploit kits that our intelligence agencies use to hack shit. A lot of it was centered around making it look like the attacks had come from specific countries.
Or not cynical enough... (Score:2)
Ah, but by doing this, they have finally released a movie that won't get pirated. TAKE THAT, INTERWABZ PIRATES!
Obligitory Nelson (Score:2)
Ha, ha!
Dam I must forgot to set the PPV movie flag! (Score:2)
Dam I must forgot to set the PPV movie flag!
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This.
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It was popularized by the show Archer. It's a sad, defeated tone. Imagine a sad Charlie Brown trombone saying it. Or imagine the failure / loss sound from The Price Is Right.
still Piracy and they can sue people who downloade (Score:1)
still Piracy and they can sue people who downloaded it or at least try to bully them into an copyright settlement
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still Piracy and they can sue people who downloaded it
And how exactly will they prove a particular person downloaded it? I know of a place where a single IP is shared among several folks between two floors of a huge apartment complex.
And BTW, since when has an IP been deemed a person?
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The various frivolous lawsuits surrounding copyright claims in the past 20 or so years have passed you by?
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Nope. The company distributed it themselves.
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I can understand copyright infringement when a movie is still in the theaters. However, once the video is made available to you, you are free to make a backup copy for your own purposes. No one knows when or how you made the backup. *hint*, *hint*
Free loophole for everyone to exploit.. kinda like reprogramming DirecTV cards. Enjoy it now, this all goes away within the next 10 years when blockchain DRM becomes the norm
-dk
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Depends on the judge and whether they determine that simply uploading the file to YouTube constitutes a carte blanche license to the entire world. I suspect it probably doesn't. I mean it's probably grey enough that Sony wouldn't bother pursuing it (especially since it would be nearly impossible to identify "infringers") and it is their fault after all but if for some crazyassed reason, they did decide to take it to a judge.. I wouldnt put a whole lot of faith in the judge deeming it a legal licensing.
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For Free? (Score:2)
I still don't care and won't watch it.
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Agreed. Sony are going to have to try harder than this to get people to watch their movies.
"I don't understand why..." (Score:5, Funny)
"...uploading this trailer is taking so long... I'm going out for a latte."
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"...uploading this trailer is taking so long... I'm going out for a latte."
I'm not sure about Sony, but media production tends to own some high bandwidth shit. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony have peering straight into Google at Gb speeds. So this could've been all done in a minute or two.
Trailers Today... (Score:2, Funny)
This is exactly why I hate seeing trailers these days... they practically spoil the whole movie!
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Congrats! You just won the, "Couldn't even bother to read the summary" award!
Love the old trailers (Score:2)
It used to be the case that trailers were separately-produced promotional shorts. It was slightly before my time, but I think my favorite is the one Hitchcock did for The Birds...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Sony's getting pretty desperate (Score:2)
Guess this movie must be their rock-bottom, now they can't even rely on torrents anymore to get their movies distributed, they even have to do that themselves now. Talk about desperation!
But it kinda tells you something if even for free only about 11k people gave a fuck. There are literally movies that aren't even worth the time it takes to watch them, let alone pay to see them.
w00t! (Score:2)
Trailer ad? (Score:2)
Maybe itâ(TM)s a movie to advertise the trailer