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Star Wars Prequels

Lightsaber Dueling Registered as Official Sport in France (theguardian.com) 109

It's now easier than ever in France to act out Star Wars fantasies. The country's fencing federation has officially recognized lightsaber dueling as a competitive sport, granting the weapon from George Lucas's space saga the same status as the foil, epee and sabre, the traditional blades used at the Olympics. From a report: Of course, the LED-lit, rigid polycarbonate replicas can't slice an opponent in half. But they look and sound remarkably like the blades that Yoda and other characters wield in the blockbuster movies. The physicality of lightsaber combat is part of the reason why the French Fencing Federation is now equipping fencing clubs with lightsabers and training would-be lightsaber instructors. Like virtuous Jedi knights, the federation sees itself as combatting a Dark Side: the sedentary habits of 21st-century life.

"With young people today, it's a real public health issue. They don't do any sport and only exercise with their thumbs," says Serge Aubailly, the federation's secretary general. "That is why we are trying to create a bond between our discipline and modern technologies, so participating in a sport feels natural." In the past, Zorro, Robin Hood and The Three Musketeers helped lure new practitioners to fencing. Now, Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader are joining them. "Cape-and-sword movies have always had a big impact on our federation and its growth," Aubailly says. "Lightsaber films have the same impact. Young people want to give it a try."

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Lightsaber Dueling Registered as Official Sport in France

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  • I wonder... (Score:4, Informative)

    by BringsApples ( 3418089 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:13AM (#58152184)
    ...what percentage of French people are happy, or even care, about this. Or is this just another of the strange things that get to happen in today's world?

    Who knows. But here's a list [topendsports.com] of other odd sports that exist.
    • Traditional Fencing is an expensive sport to learn. There is a lot of safety equipment that needs to be tailored to you, and a well balanced and crafted saber or foil isn't cheap too. Especially compared to a $20 football (choose your brand of foot ball) and an other $100 worth of safety equipment

      Light Saber with these toy Sabers, are actually much safer, and you don't need such a high barrier to entry to the sport.

      With all the thing in the world, Sports with a well regulated and organized way to beating th

      • I made "lightsabers" for my boys for $1 each. Get some inexpensive pool noodles, shiny silver duct tape, and black tape (electrical tape works well). Cut the pool noodle in half. Wrap silver duct tape around one end to make a "handle." Add the black tape to make decorative fixtures like "buttons." Now, you can battle and whack each other with your lightsabers without hurting each other. Depending on the length of the pool noodle, each one might make two sabers - or only one with some bits left over. These s

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Yeah, no. Fenced my whole life. Foil and mask - around $70. 'Light Saber' on Amazon - around $20 for cheapest, $200 for expensive (no current masks or use the same ones). As you can "poke your eye out" with either, there's protective gear for both (I would fucking hope) and *both* are 'tailored' as long as you define tailored as getting a jacket your size.

        Toys will deteriorate with use much faster, so replacements will be more often. Foil blade breaks (happens, not frequently) - install another (3 f

      • Traditional Fencing is an expensive sport to learn. There is a lot of safety equipment that needs to be tailored to you

        I usually buy my fencing supplies from Home Depot. Safety glasses are about $10 and seem to fit well off the shelf.

  • Lawsuit incoming in 3....2....1.....

    • That would be kinda stupid, no? If Lightsaber dueling becomes an official sport, they can make a fortune selling actual "Official Licensed Gear" of the sport.

      They could become the next Wilson of Lightsabers, and only sue the people selling knockoff products.

  • wedgie (Score:4, Funny)

    by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:19AM (#58152212) Journal

    The longer I live, the more I understand why nerds get bullied.

    • The more generic form is "the longer I live, the more I think most people are idiots".

      • by wwphx ( 225607 )
        I prefer "Everybody is someone else's weirdo." I pride myself on being able to fulfill that role for many people simultaneously.
    • The longer I live, the more I understand why nerds get bullied.

      Going to slow down substantially when the bullies find themselves beaten with glowing, sound emitting staffs.

    • Re:wedgie (Score:5, Insightful)

      by lgw ( 121541 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:25AM (#58152242) Journal

      It's no more nerdy than foil fencing, just less old. It's also about as abstracted from reality as foil fencing.

      Any exercise program that you actually do is a good one. If light sabers motivate people, more power to them.

      • by Livius ( 318358 )

        If light sabers motivate people, more power

        I see what you did.

      • The modern foil fencing saber is a bastardized form of the original saber, altered to be more foil-like to increase the excitement from lightning-quick thrusts and parries. The original saber is meant to be twirled [youtube.com]. When you make a sweeping cut with a straight sword, you lose all the energy you put into the blow if it misses the target. But because you twirl a saber, the rotational energy you put into it builds up and is retained until you hit something. That's why it's so prominently curved - when you
        • by lgw ( 121541 )

          The modern foil fencing saber is a bastardized form of the original saber,

          The sport fencing technique has no relation at all to acual historical saber technique (YouTube is full of HEMA videos that explain this - there's a whole different martial art for historical accuracy). BTW, many cavalry sabers were straight, designed primarily for thrusting as one rode by one's target.

          Light sabre fencing also has nothing to do with historical saber technique, but it wouldn't surprise me if they grow closer over time as the historical martial arts actually needed to be effective, and presu

    • Re:wedgie (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Ogive17 ( 691899 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:22PM (#58152614)
      It's sad that people are being ridiculed for doing something that brings joy and has no negative impact on anyone else.
      • It's sad that people are being ridiculed for doing something that brings joy and has no negative impact on anyone else.

        I can accept that bullying is sad and bad and at the same time understand its motivation.

        I guess nerds don't do nuance.

    • I don't know about bullying a guy that had spent a couple hundred hours learning from a fencing instructor... light saber or other wise he could probably grab a broom stick and do some damage. Worse yet, he could be a Trekkie and go for a sharpened Bat'leth made of stainless steel you wouldn't need any training to do some damage with that.
       

      • Meh ... modern fencing (foil, épée) is 99% pistol grip, which simply doesn't translate into a broom, stick, or 'real' sword. As for the Bat'leth, you're absolutely right, they would do some damage ... to themselves. The thing is fundamentally unbalanced, and nigh on useless in combat (as choreographed in the shows).

        HEMA would be a better place to start ... but even there, weapons are changing to take advantage of the rules (e.g. longswords are becoming slightly longer than historical records sug

      • I don't know about bullying a guy that had spent a couple hundred hours learning from a fencing instructor... light saber or other wise he could probably grab a broom stick and do some damage.

        We have footage of actual lightsaber duellists, and I'm not sure the bullies are worried.

        https://youtu.be/H_Z9orDS84c [youtu.be]

  • by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:21AM (#58152220)

    We don't go around calling your cities "Nouveau York" or "Laveington/Laverton".

    It's spelled "épée [wikipedia.org]" not "epee".

    • by Livius ( 318358 )

      Nouveau York is ungrammatical. It's Nouvel-York.

      • No such word as "Nouvel". In the masculine form it's "nouveau" and in the feminine form it's "nouvelle".

        So it would be either "Nouveau York" or "Nouvelle York", depending on if you define "York" as male or female.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Now we just need to invent light sabers.

  • What's the penalty for participating in an unregistered sport?

  • Star Wars lightsaber fighting isn't the real thing. Spaceballs lightsaber fighting [youtube.com] is the real thing.
  • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:11PM (#58152522)

    Seriously .. it looks like Kendo .. https://youtu.be/n7XfOA7Ly6U [youtu.be]

  • by Ogive17 ( 691899 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:18PM (#58152582)
    If it gets more people interested in these "combat" sports, why not? Those that really enjoy the sport might eventually switch to one of the more traditional weapons. This could bring a big boost to the national program for France.
    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      If people are having fun, why does it have to accomplish anything?

      • by Ogive17 ( 691899 )
        Not claiming it does. However increased participation and exposure to sword fighting sports will eventually strengthen their program.
  • by ardmhacha ( 192482 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:24PM (#58152628)

    The Japanese sport of Kendo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] using a bamboo sword called a shinai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] is very close to lightsaber fighting.

  • by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:25PM (#58152636) Journal

    It's really no weirder than a sport based on obsolete weaponry (used in a way that that nobody gets hurt with).

    In today's world, light sabers are not especially more fictional that swords, as far as everyday life goes.

  • by foxalopex ( 522681 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @12:34PM (#58152690)

    It seems like fun unless you get nailed in the wrong place. Thou I wonder if plastic stick dueling (which is more accurate) would take the fun out of it.

  • I saw bat'leth dueling at MileHiCon once. That would be fun.

    Among other things, the duelists tended to freely acknowledge when their opponents scored a hit. It was the honorable thing to do.

  • by Zorro ( 15797 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @03:01PM (#58153698)

    You are NOT deflecting all 9 pellets of 00 Buckshot with a lightsaber!.

  • by Harvey Manfrenjenson ( 1610637 ) on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @04:10PM (#58154142)

    I've said this before (and promptly got yelled at in the comments), but I'll say it again:

    The problem with Western fencing is that it just isn't much fun to watch. This is true even if you've done some fencing yourself, and can sort-of follow what is going on. In recent years, the Olympic bouts haven't even been televised.

    The main issue is that the action is over in about two seconds. The other issue is that you usually can't follow what happened in those two seconds. Quite often it appears that both fencers have scored a hit, and the question of who gets a point comes down to the judge's interpretation of arcane "right-of-way" rules.

    This is just wrong. Swordfighting is supposed to be fun to watch! How on earth do you take a swordfight and turn it into something duller than a golf tournament? Western fencing rules, that's how.

    It's time they developed some variant forms of fencing. To begin with, get rid of the idea that the action should grind to a halt whenever anyone scores a valid touch-- and get rid of the idea that anything which happens a half-second after the touch "doesn't count". Boxing doesn't work that way. MMA doesn't work that way. Neither does real swordfighting, I would imagine.

    While you're at it, why does everything have to take place on a fencing strip, where your only options for movement are "forward" and "back"? What is this, a side-scroller video game?

    (Of course, on a serious note, I recognize that traditional Western fencing has its devoted followers, and I'm not suggesting that it should be abandoned. But variant forms can, and should, exist along the traditional forms.)

  • Still much less popular than the #1 sport in France: White flag waving!

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