Can James Cameron and Arnold Schwarzenegger Revive The 'Terminator' Franchise? (etonline.com) 226
"The Resistance's war against Skynet rages on with the sixth installment of the Terminator series," reports Variety, adding that the James Cameron-produced film "serves as a direct sequel to the first two movies in the franchise, relegating the events of the intervening films to alternate timelines."
Or, as ET Online: puts it, "Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton and James Cameron are together again!" On Thursday, Paramount Pictures released the first trailer for Terminator: Dark Fate, and it's a reunion for the film franchise's original stars and filmmaker. Hamilton steps back into her role as the badass Sarah Connor, who teams up with Grace (Mackenzie Davis), a woman from the future who shows up in New Mexico and first appears much like Schwarzenegger's character did in the first movie. Directed by Deadpool's Tim Miller, Cameron wrote the story treatment for the sequel and was a producer on the film.
After several action scenes, Sarah Connor knocks on the door of an old house, and the original Terminator (Schwarzenegger) appears with a salt-and-pepper beard. "We're back," Schwarzenegger, 71, tweeted along with the trailer, alluding to his iconic line "I'll be back."
After two days the trailer has racked over 12.5 million views on YouTube, and James Cameron "not only assures that the new entry will be R-rated, but he makes it clear this will be, in more than one way, much more similar to the first two movies in the series," reports Movieweb -- quoting these remarks from one of Cameron's recent interviews.
"I think, tonally, what makes this a direct sequel to T1 and T2 is as much about the tone as it is about the narrative: it's R rated, it's grim, it's gritty, it's fast, it's intense, it's linear."
Or, as ET Online: puts it, "Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton and James Cameron are together again!" On Thursday, Paramount Pictures released the first trailer for Terminator: Dark Fate, and it's a reunion for the film franchise's original stars and filmmaker. Hamilton steps back into her role as the badass Sarah Connor, who teams up with Grace (Mackenzie Davis), a woman from the future who shows up in New Mexico and first appears much like Schwarzenegger's character did in the first movie. Directed by Deadpool's Tim Miller, Cameron wrote the story treatment for the sequel and was a producer on the film.
After several action scenes, Sarah Connor knocks on the door of an old house, and the original Terminator (Schwarzenegger) appears with a salt-and-pepper beard. "We're back," Schwarzenegger, 71, tweeted along with the trailer, alluding to his iconic line "I'll be back."
After two days the trailer has racked over 12.5 million views on YouTube, and James Cameron "not only assures that the new entry will be R-rated, but he makes it clear this will be, in more than one way, much more similar to the first two movies in the series," reports Movieweb -- quoting these remarks from one of Cameron's recent interviews.
"I think, tonally, what makes this a direct sequel to T1 and T2 is as much about the tone as it is about the narrative: it's R rated, it's grim, it's gritty, it's fast, it's intense, it's linear."
James Cameron (Score:3, Insightful)
Will do to Terminator what George Lucas did to Star Wars
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the James Cameron-produced film "serves as a direct sequel to the first two movies in the franchise, relegating the events of the intervening films to alternate timelines."
Wonder if they could do that to GoT? "The anyone-competent-really-produced series based on George R. R. Martin's latest work serves as a direct sequel to the first five seasons in the franchise, relegating the events of the intervening seasons to alternate timelines^H^H^H^Hhell".
GRRM writing speed (Score:2)
you really beleive that he'll manage to finish writing dream of spring within his lifetime?
seriously?
also, I doubt HBO or anyone else will volunteer the budget for the ~12 extra seasons required after season 4 to adapt all the material from the (upcoming) books - if those ever get published.
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you really beleive that he'll manage to finish writing dream of spring within his lifetime?
Doubtful. The only question is who they'll get to write out the last one or two books. Jordan didn't make it either, but at least he was smart enough to know that when his health was declining to make heavy use of written, audio, and annotations in his digital copies so someone could finish it off.
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the James Cameron-produced film "serves as a direct sequel to the first two movies in the franchise, relegating the events of the intervening films to alternate timelines."
Wonder if they could do that to GoT? "The anyone-competent-really-produced series based on George R. R. Martin's latest work serves as a direct sequel to the first five seasons in the franchise, relegating the events of the intervening seasons to alternate timelines^H^H^H^Hhell".
It's a bad idea. No one will want to pay for it. The actors won't be available. The production staff won't be available. The sets will be gone. No one is remaking that last few seasons.
Re:James Cameron (Score:5, Interesting)
I think what's been done to Star Wars has already been done to Terminator. So we're way past that. And since it can't get much worse, I would think that this has some potential.
I mean Deadpool was really good IMO. Battle Angel Alita was very well done so Cameron has proven to be someone who will stand up for projects dear to him.
So we have an original cast, a "good?" director and James Cameron driving the project. Well, one can hope.
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However I shudder at the word "franchise". Used to be that studios made movies that stood on their own, and if one did well, then maybe there'd be a sequel. Perhaps even two. Nowadays a lot of movies seem to be written with a franchise in mind, or (even lazier) are simply taken from an already existing franchise in another medium. And you get endless fanserving and lazy wri
Molten steel and Blad runner 2049 (Score:3)
First, how is the Schwatzeneggor Terninator not melted down in a steel vat?
Second, I actually think this could be good. We have very few organic women action heros. I don't really count any of the Marvel heros, women or men because they all have super power not moxie and grit. People like Ripley in aliens, and Linda hamilton are the high water marks for the original femal heros.
And recently jamie lee curtis proved that you can dip into the older actress pool and revive one of these characters at even gre
Re:Molten steel and Blad runner 2049 (Score:4, Insightful)
No. What we need are good stories with believable characters. Socjus themes are what is choking hollywood right now to a point where the movies are basically public service announcements. The last thing needed is yet another mary sue, chosen because she's a vagina 'with moxie'. It's not so much the linda hamilton-type characters that are problems, but how they're treated by the movie 'for great social justice.'
Earn it (Score:5, Insightful)
Protagonists generally go through a struggle or journey to become an eventual badass. They don't just show up and are naturally good at everything, like Rey in TFA. This applies to male characters as well - the Marty Sue. Neo didn't just show up and turn into a cyber superman on the spot - he had to learn a lot of shit and got a lot of crap kicked out of him in the process.
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I don't know, Rey went through a small big of progression in TFA. The movie zig-zagged a bit where for the first 90% it was trying to convince you that Finn was going to be the Jedi badass. Then Kylo kicked his ass, and Rey accepted this.. thing that was trying to influence her. But in one movie she goes through what took Luke two movies to go through (with two long training visits, one off-screen, with Master Yoda).
The Marty Stu/Mary Sue sometimes comes about because the creators want them to be super-grea
James Cameron and His Special Effects (Score:5, Interesting)
The description of "Terminator: Dark Fate" suggests that it is intended to appeal to non-Western audiences. The film is packed with special effects instead of good dialogue that shows us the depth of the characters.
This new movie is just part of a big trend. According to a report [usatoday.com] by USA Today, "American audiences should brace for a larger diet of the fare that's hot internationally: Namely, films centered on big special effects and 3-D."
China is now the largest international market for such movies. The Chinese dislike movies with good dialogue and moral lessons. The Chinese prefer shallow dialogue with big special effects. So, Hollywood is loading its films with special effects.
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If it's a sequel and they are selling it on gender swapping the characters... that means your screen writer is a talentless hack. They couldn't think of anything new.
It has five different "story by" credits. And then an additional three "screenwriters." That usually means one team wrote a story, the studio or director wasn't satisfied with it, and brought in a different team to do a rewrite.
When James Cameron was at the height of his ability, he was the head of a story team, and the sole screenwriter. "Written and directed by James Cameron." Well, he's not the director here, he's a producer. That's very very different. It's good that he has story input, but I'm not ho
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Yes, T1 and moreso T2 had them, but they were tertiary to the story.
Nowadays SFX *is* the story.
And character development, hours of dialogue, simply doesn't exist.
So you're not crying or cheering over SFX when it happens,
Maybe this is true, but a big problem with modern blockbusters isn't that they don't have a story; many successful blockbuster classics of the past didn't have that intelligent or complicated a story either. The modern blockbuster often has TOO much story, and that's one of the things that pads the running time out so much. It tries to tell too much of a story, and overall that story doesn't work. When you have a big movie with a big, bad story, then it really does feel like it signifies nothing, and you en
Re:James Cameron (Score:5, Interesting)
At this point I'm so sick of the time-travel shtick that I don't even care about the franchise anymore. The whole point of the franchise was to get to the REAL important part--the future war where humans finally defeat Skynet. Well, they finally got to that part in Terminator Salvation, with a great performance from Christian Bale to boot. And that was supposed to be the setup for a sequel that would see humanity finally beat Skynet for good. Only the studio didn't like the way that movie performed, so they rebooted the whole thing, and took us right back to the same old tired time-travel shtick. Now they're rebooting AGAIN, with even more time-travel confusion.
So how is it even possible now to give a fuck? They've created a franchise where it's pretty much impossible to beat Skynet. So what is even the point anymore? What's the point of protecting John Connor if he's never even going to get a chance to win? What's the point of sending back Terminators if Skynet can just keep sending scores more of them back until it (inevitably) wins?
The whole franchise went from hopeful, to fatalistic but still hopeful, to absolutely hopeless. At this point, we had may as well root for Skynet to win and finally put the audience out of its misery.
Bringing the time-travel gimmick into a scifi franchise today is basically the death-knell of the franchise. It's basically the studio saying "Nothing that happens in this franchise matters anymore, because we'll just undo it or reboot it whenever we feel like it."
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The whole point of the franchise was to get to the REAL important part--the future war where humans finally defeat Skynet.
It depends on where you want to stop in the franchise. You got flashes of the future war (like the opening scenes in the first two Terminator movies), but the point of the franchise, at least when Cameron wrote the first two movies, was to avoid the future war entirely, to save the planet so that the armageddon doesn't occur. The first movie introduced the idea of changing the past to alter the future (in this case by trying to kill Sarah Conner) with that war looking possible, but the second was all about
Re: James Cameron (Score:2)
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The difference is that Cameron is a Battle Angel fanboy so he wouldn't change anything important.
Terminator OTOH is his baby so he can ruin it as much as he like.
IMO, when someone else takes over his franchises, they ruin them, so they're already ruined (Aliens, Terminator..)
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In this case, I think James Cameron just wants to make James Cameron more money, without James Cameron taking the risk of actually making James Cameron the writer or director.
Re: James Cameron (Score:2)
If war is the party, America is the guy who always shows up, even if he wasn't invited.
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Come on, if modern war is a party, then the US would be the person that makes the preparations (including spiking the drinks and putting cameras in the toilets), makes the announcement and is first on the dance floor.
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He has just sent it from the past.
Re: James Cameron (Score:2)
Despite his language he's got a point. Today's Hollywood doesn't make movies
It makes socjus public service announcements.
Nice night for walk. (Score:5, Funny)
"I need your cane, your undergarments and your walking frame."
Hopefully Not! (Score:3)
Just let it die!
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I doubt it (Score:4, Insightful)
The problem is that basically everything has to be mass-market compatible these days. That pretty much precludes good story-telling.
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Not to mention the insistence nowadays that all the best scenes be included in the trailers anyway. If you’ve seen the trailer, you’ve seen the best of the movie.
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And by "nowadays" you mean 1991, when the trailer for Terminator 2 revealed that Arnie is the good robot now even though the movie tries its best to keep that ambiguous until the mall shootout.
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The problem is that basically everything has to be mass-market compatible these days. That pretty much precludes good story-telling.
I disagree with the "these days" reference. I believe this obligatory joke is about 2 or 3 decades old: https://www.gocomics.com/calvi... [gocomics.com] .
(Calvin's meta-commentary on TV shows versus real life, which just got coincidentally recycled.)
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Mass market compatible is one reason. Hollywood out of fresh ideas is another.
Re:I doubt it (Score:5, Insightful)
Any word on what rating it will be?
Seriously? It's right there in the last line of TFS: "it's R rated".
As they used say in another franchise... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's dead, James
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Yeah. It was good that they only ever made 5 Star Trek movies and then called it quits before they started getting bad, although I never figured out why they called the 5th one "Star Trek VI".
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I've gotten 15 mod points every other day this week and now I finally have a use for one I'm fresh out.
Re: As they used say in another franchise... (Score:3)
Yes. Matrix would need a sequel, too. I always thought there should be one after the one film that was made.
Here we go again. (Score:2)
Imagine a game franchise made up entirely of escort-the-NPC missions.
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Teaser trailer... (Score:2)
... was not impressive. :(
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remember the trailer from Alita, everybody was dissing it, mostly because of the big cgi eyes, it almost was a guaranteed bomb of a movie.
when it came out, it turned out to be a decent action flick, probably the best live action anime hollywood has ever done, i wasn't even bothered by the eyes.
i'm a big fan of the first two T movies, i'm not overly excited about what i saw in the trailer, but i haven't lost hope yet, hoping i will be surprised just like i was with Alita.
Great comments on the youtube trailer (Score:5, Funny)
Pretty much sums it up:
"Alejandro Basaldúa:
1991: an Austrian bodybuilder riding a Harley-Davidson with sunglasses, leather jacket, boots and reloading his shotgun with one hand.
2019: a lesbian college student. "
Probably so (Score:5, Interesting)
Lots of naysayers commenting. I think it is possible that this new movie could be really good. I will provide a couple pieces of evidence. First off, Cameron has always had tremendous amounts of money and power to produce and write his films. When Lucas gained that kind of power and unbridled control, and created the prequels, we saw that he, individually, did not have the writing chops and ability to balance the serious with the slapstick, nor the ability to write decent dialog or direct children to act in a convincing way. Cameron, on the other hand, has had that level of control in several of his movies already, and apparently he has a proper combination of skills to bring an audience what they want to see, and / or the humility to lean on the talents of other people during that creative process.
So my first point is that Cameron has delivered time and time again, and I don't have any reason to believe that he has somehow lost his talent.
Second point is that others have been able to pull this off with tremendous success, and I'll leave this final piece of evidence here that it CAN be done.... George Miller creating Mad Max Fury Road 30 years after the third Mad Max movie (Beyond Thunderdome).
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...I'll leave this final piece of evidence here that it CAN be done.... George Miller creating Mad Max Fury Road 30 years after the third Mad Max movie (Beyond Thunderdome).
I'll leave this final piece of evidence as to the difference here...George Miller wasn't stupid enough to go grab Great Grandpa Gibson to reprise that role.
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My guess was he could not afford Gibson. During that time Gibson became a big star and can command decent cuts of the gross on something like that.
The year before Fury Road came out, Mel Gibson was busy winning a Razzie award for Worst Supporting Actor in a movie where he earned the same paycheck as Wesley Snipes, who was fresh out of prison and rather desperate for work.
Oh yeah. Peak career. He was one racist rant away from moving into Randy Quaids trailer park.
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I liked pre-Titanic James Cameron when he was an unapologetic asshole but his tree-hugging was old before the crapfest that was Avatar. The first Terminator with it's tech-noir nightclub set a tone that was ruined by the second movie. A narrative flip that preceded leftist politics taking a turn for the worst. If the first film were made today, the Terminator would be the good guy sent back in association with Planned Parenthood and the SPLC to punish "hate speech" and prevent evil white male John Connor
Peak Hipster (Score:2)
You've reached it.
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- Cameron is producing not directing. Producing can mean as much as being involved on set everyday to meaning as little as lending your name to the credits and having no real involvement whatsoever.
- Cameron's last movie, Avatar, was garbage. It was a poor sci-fi ripoff of Dances With Wolves that made a ton of money because it brought back the 3D movie gimmick for the first time in a few decades. He's been teasing for 10 years that he wants to make more Avatar films. I don't know of anyone that is clamoring
Rehash Rotation Checklist (Score:2)
Producers don't excite me (Score:2)
They are just using the money they made and name they got when they directed good movies to make more money from the side lines. If he really believed in it he'd be directing.
Indestructability Overuse (Score:4, Insightful)
This has all the problems I have with modern movies:
I like a good action movie as much as the next person, but I'd really like to see one that relies less on piling on the bad tropes until the whole movie is a joke about itself.
Title (Score:2)
Terminator 6: Rust Never Sleeps.
Same problem with Rick and Morty . . . (Score:2)
Also same problem with Avengers, Star Trek, Gotham, etc.
If anything can happen and nothing matters, who cares?
Some character dies? So what? That character will be back because of timelines and/or dimensions and/or brought back from the dead, or whatever.
If anything that happens can be easily erased and done over, so who cares what happens? Nothing matters and everything is just boring.
Prequels have an additional problem in that you already know how everything will work out.
*YAWN* (Score:2)
Remains a great storyline with a lot of scope (Score:2)
Terminator: Deep Fake (Score:2)
If you want to truly kill the terminator you have to go back in time and kill James Cameron.
Terminator: go full Chronicles (Score:2)
Explore a Will you join us? plot.
Remove the John Connor, Sarah Connor, resistance fighter parts.
Bad robots vs different good shape-shifting robots from the future with some side FBI detection plot.
This would open the movie to not needing a complex Connor back story filler for 40 mins.
Shape-shifting robots can be any actor wanted and that can keep the franchise fresh. eg T-X.
Maybe the FBI facial recognition
It depends (Score:2)
Re:Complete and utter nonsense trailer. (Score:5, Insightful)
What is this third movie you're talking about ?
The Terminator franchise has 2 films. Terminator and T2.
Re: Complete and utter nonsense trailer. (Score:5, Funny)
Exactly.
I do not know why people are complaining about a so called 8th season of Game of Thrones, either. It is too bad they cancelled the show when Dany finally set sails for Westeros.
A third, fourth or higher episode of Terminator? You mean the bad rip off made by minor c-movie-studios trying to completely destroy the series?
Someone referencing the bad fanfic âzTerminator 3âoe is not meant to be taking seriously when he complains about the trailer about a possible sequel.
Some people should smoke weaker weed. Seriously.
What is next? Gaslighting us into believing there is a Matrix sequel after the first and final episode besides the animated short films? Someone tried to explain to m someone made a Hobbit trilogy. From this one book alone. Madness.
I really hope James Cameron would do a sequel to Aliens some day. Or a prequel, I would really like to see where the aliens came from.
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Texas.
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>> What is this third movie you're talking about ?The Terminator franchise has 2 films. Terminator and T2.
> Exactly. I do not know why people are complaining about a so called 8th season of Game of Thrones, either.
"so called" indeed. S8E3 was complete shit. [youtube.com]
Not everyone is smart enough to give it The Matrix treatment: There is only 1 Matrix movie. [xkcd.com]
As many people say: Arya went West, Jon & Sansa went North, Danny went East, and the Show went south.
> It is too bad they cancelled the show when
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You got a crappy show because GRRM spent the time working on the show and not the novels. Now he's going to be working on the prequels/sequels instead of the books. With such a long time between the books HBO should have waited until the books were finished before taking the author away from them.
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GRRM was working on the novels for quite awhile as well -- it's been five years now since he worked on the show in any way (the "Purple Wedding" was the last episode he wrote), and Winds of Winter is still in the "oh, writing has been going well lately, maybe it'll be published soon" stage like it has been since '14. I wish I could say that other things have distracted him, but he's just a very very slow writer, and as time has gone on, it's been harder to deal with all the intersecting plotlines. Seriously
Re: Complete and utter nonsense trailer. (Score:2)
As far as Game Of Thrones is concerned: https://youtu.be/jAhKOV3nImQ [youtu.be] Pitch meeting final season... (fictional final season) ;-)
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LOL. Summarizes some of the problems with Season 8 very well.
Re: Complete and utter nonsense trailer. (Score:2)
About time.
Re: Complete and utter nonsense trailer. (Score:2)
Iâll take that back. I thought I red âzJames Cameronâoe. Talk about wishful thinking. Ridley Scott should never be let even near the Alien franchise. Everything he did to this franchise except for the first film was an abomination.
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Iâll take that back. I thought I red âzJames Cameronâoe. Talk about wishful thinking. Ridley Scott should never be let even near the Alien franchise. Everything he did to this franchise except for the first film was an abomination.
Well, not EVERYTHING. Prometheus was well directed, and the movie has some great, chilling scenes. But it was HORRIBLY written. Just awful.
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No, there are two franchises:
1) Terminator, the horror science fiction movie, which (sadly?) never got any sequels. IMO the best of the Terminator movies and an actual very good movie.
2) Terminator 2: Judgement Day, the action comedy, which got a lot of sequels, both as movies and TV shows. IMO the second best of the Terminator movies and an acceptable action comedy.
You are excused for mixing them up, even the creators cannot seem to tell the two apart. It seems that James Cameron is planning yet another s
Re: Complete and utter nonsense trailer. (Score:2)
How could you forget T3? It got an Oscar! (Score:2)
Or a reasonable facsimile thereof...see Liquid Metal or T2: Judgment Day trailers on YT.
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Who cares when the movie itself plods along like a T2 that ran out of gas 10 years prior?
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so a goddess gets thrown into a shitty badly thought out sequel movie, what about it?
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Kristanna Loken was hot.
But, be in a Terminator movie,
she should not.
Re:NO! New ideas please! (Score:5, Insightful)
Why do the best and brightest in Hollywood just keep re-using the same characters in stories?
Fear.
People keep mistaking film-makers for entertainers. They are businessmen engaged in the process of selling entertainment. If you have characters with a proven track record, you're taking a huge risk to abandon them and go with characters who may or may not resonate with the audience in a financially pleasing way. It's much safter to take characters that they know are popular, and rework them. That's why we've had nine Spider-man films.
"How did those beloved characters get any exposure to begin with?" That happened before the accountants got quote so scared.
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There are plenty of original movies being made, big blockbuster ones. It's just that it takes good teams to make them a success.
So then you have the not good teams who pick up old franchise with a good reputation they can use to get people to see their bad movies. Terminator is a great example.
Well, they are literally Übersoldat propagand (Score:2, Interesting)
You know how the Nazis had these propaganda movies about a superior breed of humans, created from a pure Aryan heritage and eugenics experiments*, to serve them as a super soldier?
Well, the USA had its own version of that. But it still exists today. And the soldiers are called "super heroes".
Other than that it is literally the exact same thing. I mean look at Captain America. Or Thor. Or Superman.
As a German, this is creepy as fuck to me. It always feels like the Nazis never went away. And I'm thinking: How
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Why do the best and brightest in Hollywood just keep re-using the same characters in stories?
Are there no more new stories to tell?
No further ideas about how to do Sci-Fi?
Because that's much harder to do. It's HARD to create a new franchise. Even for a very popular franchise, the sequels usually make far more money than the original that spawned them. For studios, the originals are the setup, and the sequels are the payoff.
Sequels have a built-in audience, as do adaptations of popular works. That's extremely tempting, because you already know what the characters are, and you already have them cast (well, this isn't always the case in Terminator movies). You have a world and
Re:The answer is easy : no (Score:5, Interesting)
Linda Hamilton is 62. Lots of older guys do action movies. 62 is on the upper end of the scale but not that exceptional. Nice to see that her character seems to be playing an active role in the movie, not just the old mother figure handing on to the new generation trope.
Who knows if it will work but I'll reserve judgement. What made the first two films great was the feeling that the terminator really was unstoppable, and of course the liquid metal reveal in the second movie that really upped the stakes. Every movie since has struggled to replicate that because we know what terminators are capable of and how to kill them now.
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Stallone is 72 and can still do it.
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Stallone is 72 and can still do it.
GIFs or it didn't happen!
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GIS Italian Stallion!
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"Linda Hamilton is 62. Lots of older guys do action movies."
Yes, but should they be? They used to fire James Bond actors once they hit their mid-50s because it was too unrealistic to watch a senior citizen perform stunts. Frankly, I much preferred that model. There hasn't been a single "old man action hero" movie made in the last 20 years that has been worth watching.
Clint Eastwood did this the right way. In his old age (he was 62 in Unforgiven), he never plays someone beating people up or doing stunts. He
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Indeed, I was actually brainstorming the other day what action movie stars are young-ish. Aside from super hero actors, I could only name Channing Tatum. Daniel Craig injured himself in a fall while filming the latest Bond film, for example.
Re: The answer is easy : no (Score:2)
What is it about 62 year old Linda Hamilton that suggests she can't fire a gun? It's not like she's beating a T-800 to death. Weapons technology has always been a great equalizer. I'd rather go toe to toe with an unarmed Arnold than go at it with an armed Linda.
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For middle aged men like me, exhausted with modern snowflakes hissing and screeching in their little Antifa masks about how they've been physically assaulted by using a gender neutral pronoun to describe a transgender in their change year, and how "the friend zone" was an "invention of the male patriarchy to demand sex by men who never actually asked the woman out"
You mixed up a couple of different subcultures there.
Snowflakes is usually used to describe millenials, who by the way are old enogh to be middle aged now.
The screeching antifa stuff is mostly something that only exists in Fox alternative reality.
The friend zone stuff is a construct that is mainly used by the incel community that calls themselves alt-right.
Don't really know where you got that transgender stereotype form, I never managed to sort out that part of the sentence.
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It means that if you put Arnie in and it gets 2x as god and have James Cameron in and it gets 1.5x as good then if you have 2.1 Arnies and 0.7 James Camerons then it will be 5.25 times as good.
Re: Great! (Score:2)
Hunters typically avoid killing pregnant game to help ensure prey is replenished.
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Dont worry, this untruth will be retconned out of the storyline eventually.
Re: Sort of corny if you ask me (Score:2)
Because they (the old T-800 models) are covered in a living biological "skin". This skin ages as normal. It also allows a T-800 to - for example - grow a beard.
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Do Terminators have a normal human immune system as well? Aside from tanning, the skin would be as vulnerable as a human's to all the biological attacks that are all around us. Wouldn't a Terminator get covered in warts quite quickly? Or maybe get skin cancer? Or get Kaposi's sarcoma?
I would assume that the only purpose of covering a Terminator in human skin would be to fool humans long enough to be able to kill them. Therefore there is no immune system or even something as complex as a true blood supply, j
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There would be no reason to engineer the skin to be exactly the same as human skin, especially the aging part.
It's quite plausible that the ageing is a defect not worth correcting rather than a feature they're going out of their way to re-create.
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Or what happens when a Terminator gets bit by a mosquito... Will there be the classical swelling and itching too? I imagine a Terminator sent to a tropical location almost immediately get swarmed by bugs and heads to a pharmacy to get some Off! before lumbering towards his target...
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Given what we've seen in the movies and the TV show, yes, Terminators are susceptible to bug bites, but it's a question of whether they have a histamine reaction without any endocrine system. My guess is they would need a suitable stand-in for an endocrine system to keep the organic tissue healthy, though, so you would see typical immune response, swelling, etc.
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Terminators from before Arnold's series were more "fool them till we get close and kill them", but Arnold's model was also designed for long term infiltration. They bleed, age, etc. because it's actual organic tissue grown in a lab or some such thing. The real question isn't why or how the skin acts as it does, it's how does the skin receive nutrients.
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James Cameron and Arnold Schwarzenegger
I'm certainly not a SJW, but shouldn't the title be "can James Cameron and Linda Halimton save the terminator franchise"? Schwarzenegger has been in most on the sequels and it didn't seem to help.
I think they were trying to save her the embarrassment
Meanwhile, yet another sequel with the originals being old. I think I saw that in an episode of The Nanny
Not in my viewing plans..