Tom DeLonge's UFO Research Group Signs Contract With US Army To Develop Far-Future Tech (vice.com) 77
Blink-182 singer Tom DeLonge's UFO research organization has signed an agreement with the U.S. Army in which it will help the military study and develop advanced materials for the purposes of develpoing "active camouflage, beamed energy propulsion, and quantum communication" for use on military vehicles. Motherboard reports: On October 17th, To the Stars joined forces with the Army's Combat Capabilities Development Command, a research and development body. While To the Stars has made recent headlines with its UFO themed content, such as its acquisition of "exotic" materials which it claims are not from Earth, and videos acquired from the Navy purporting to show unidentified anomalous phenomena, this recent deal with the military portrays a different side of To the Stars: as a potential technology company.
In recent months, DeLonge's organization has made a big deal out of obtaining those "exotic" metals that it believes may come from UFOs. Though the contract doesn't specifically mention the origin of any of those metals, it does say that To the Stars and the U.S. Army will use government labs to study "meta materials," which could refer to these alloys. "Government shall: Perform assessments, testing, and characterization of Collaborator-provided technologies. The Government is interested in a variety of the Collaborator's technologies, such as, but not limited to inertial mass reduction, mechanical/structural meta materials, electromagnetic meta material wave guides, quantum physics, quantum communications, and beamed energy propulsion," the contract states. The contract lasts for five years. The government isn't paying TTSA anything, rather, it is agreeing to collaborate with TTSA on researching new technologies and has committed to spend at least $750,000 on the research.
In recent months, DeLonge's organization has made a big deal out of obtaining those "exotic" metals that it believes may come from UFOs. Though the contract doesn't specifically mention the origin of any of those metals, it does say that To the Stars and the U.S. Army will use government labs to study "meta materials," which could refer to these alloys. "Government shall: Perform assessments, testing, and characterization of Collaborator-provided technologies. The Government is interested in a variety of the Collaborator's technologies, such as, but not limited to inertial mass reduction, mechanical/structural meta materials, electromagnetic meta material wave guides, quantum physics, quantum communications, and beamed energy propulsion," the contract states. The contract lasts for five years. The government isn't paying TTSA anything, rather, it is agreeing to collaborate with TTSA on researching new technologies and has committed to spend at least $750,000 on the research.
So October 22nd is October's Fool day? (Score:1)
Nobody told me.
Re: So October 22nd is October's Fool day? (Score:1)
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This does not surprise me one bit. The Nazis actually were working on a UFO-type vehicle, which was a new highly maneuverable type aircraft. They also did more far out experiments. Other governments did the same. Some police departments in the United States use *psychics* to help solve crimes.
But like what happened in the past, this is a case of throwing the outrageous shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. Sometimes the far out stuff pans out.
Re: So October 22nd is October's Fool day? (Score:2)
Sometimes the far out stuff pans out.
Can you name an example?
half life anyone? (Score:1)
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Quick, throw this man some money!
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Yeah, I suppose next thing is wormhole generators when you blast them with cosmic rays and a permanent portal to another universe opens and giant levitating worms with brain melting powers show up to turn us into a cash crop.
So we should all invest in crowbars and shotguns?
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So we should all invest in crowbars and shotguns?
Wait, you don't already have crowbars and shotguns?
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A shotgun he likely has.
About the crowbar I'm not so sure!
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bad movie plot (Score:5, Insightful)
straight out of a bad WOII movie plot, where the nazi's will investigate the occult and unnatural to gain the upper hand.
who knew this is more reality than fiction?
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Re: bad movie plot (Score:5, Funny)
It's more a "tell the truth and we kill you" sort of thing. The aliens are just a cover story to hide the existence of multi-billion dollar secret contracts and the high tech they have developed. This was, in part, why the twin towers and the pentagon were destroyed: to hide the existence of this disruptive technology and its funding.
Most of this technology, including new types of nuclear fission and fusion reactors, real quantum computing, and advanced matter-printing/nanotech, would radically change the current world power structure, so it is being kept under wraps, to be doled out as necessary (i.e. when someone not under government control develops it, or it fits the elite's time tables for new tech.) The powers that be would lose power in a post-scarcity world.
(None of the above is true, of course, and I definitely don't have any secret evidence for any of it. And if I did, it would be tied to multiply redundant dead-man switches. Just sayin', it's probably best for all to consider the above as complete satire.)
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I always find it fascinating how people always believe that humans are not capable of developing or doing any amazing thing, only the aliens can do it, but we are so good at keeping secrets.
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I think the assumption is that, given the age of the universe and how long galaxies like our own have been around, there simply must be intelligent life out there that attained space flight millions or billions of years before us. The idea isn't that aliens are necessarily smarter than us, just much, much older.
Of course, given the available evidence, it is just as, if not far more likely that we are literally the first space faring species, at least in our own galaxy.
As to the second part, we are terrible
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They could have evolved from herd animals (like the Puppeteers in Niven's Known Space) and have entirely different sorts of psychological motivations than we do, while still being intelligent. There's really only one data point saying intelligence and self-destructive behavior go hand in hand.
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straight out of a bad WOII movie plot, where the nazi's will investigate the occult and unnatural to gain the upper hand.
who knew this is more reality than fiction?
Presumably it was only a matter of time, since we've got Nazis marching in the streets.
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That’s what we should be doing now. Just ignore them and stop feeding the trolls.
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You'd think the parade of staff through the white house would have sufficiently demonstrated that anyone who thinks they're allied to the current US president is very likely in for a big surprise.
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You'd think the parade of staff through the white house would have sufficiently demonstrated that anyone who thinks they're allied to the current US president is very likely in for a big surprise.
The one thing Trump has been consistent about is white supremacy. He tries to keep POCs out of his buildings, and he tries to keep them out of the country, and he describes Nazis as very fine people. And it's a family tradition, since his pappy was known to attend Klan meetin's.
Re: bad movie plot (Score:2)
The one thing you've been consistent about is making sure to lie in every single comment you make.
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The one thing you've been consistent about is making sure to lie in every single comment you make.
I'm glad to see you're keeping up your flawless record of not knowing what the fuck you're talking about, but blathering anyway.
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Quite likely - he seems to be very much an "ally of convenience" sort of guy. Nevertheless, for the moment he's providing them with thinly-veilled public endorsement and actively cultivating them as a part of his base, which has dramatically emboldened them and pushed policy in an unsavory direction.
And many of the less-volatile Republican members of Congress are playing along - which is going to put them in an awkward position to distance themselves later, especially if their election races are at all clo
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You'd think the parade of staff through the white house would have sufficiently demonstrated that anyone who thinks they're allied to the current US president is very likely in for a big surprise.
Sorry Charlie. The Republican Party and it's kowtowing to the peresent leader and allowing him virtual free rein is just another example of the Republican party never accounting for their actions.
They might not own their malfeasance, but I have a suspicion that the rest of the country isn't in goosestep with them.
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I think you lost me in a thicket of American colloquialisms. Charlie is US military slang for the Vietcong, isn't it?
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In this context it is the name of the fish from the old Starkist Tuna commercial.
It was a reference to the old StarKist Tuna commercials, Not calling anyone a tuna, but Charlie kept coming up with the wrong idea.
The parade of in and out is more related to the difficulties many people have dealing with the current occupant. This one doesn't take advice, and doesn't stick to the script. I suspect that while many of the Republicans don't have one problem with him, many of those on the staff are ordered to commit crimes. And there is no protection against for them.
And understand this
Re: bad movie plot (Score:1, Insightful)
Your position [that someone's ideological position is a threat] is a fucking threat./b.
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>Your position [that someone's ideological position is a threat] is a fucking threat./b.
Not nearly as much of a threat as an ideological position that endorses genocide. After all, an ideology that doesn't lead to action is no ideology at all.
Lets be clear though - I have no interest in silencing Nazi scum. They have a right to voice their opinion, and it makes them easier to recognize, shun, and if necessary kill when they take up arms.
I do however have a major problem with their actions being even ta
ignoring them didn't work... (Score:1)
As it turns out, we're going to have to deal with them.
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I gotta tell you, we had Nazis marching in the streets in the 50’s and 60’s, too. Pissed me off no end. My parents explained freedom of speech to me and advised that we just ignore them. That’s what we should be doing now. Just ignore them and stop feeding the trolls.
We had them in the 1930's as well. They held rallies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] They had lots of conspiracy theories.
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Fucking hell, that was disturbing to watch.
Yup - It can happen right here.
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Sure. German-American citizens rallying to support the Third Reich. Just like Muslim Americans in modern America rallying to support the Caliphate. And we still haven't learned a damn thing apparently since pointing out that Islamic fundamentalists have a lot of commonality with the Nazis in that video is apparently "islamophobic" and criticizing uncontrolled immigration is "racist".
Yup - It can happen right here.
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Or alternatively, quit talking out of your fucking ass.
Also, pointing out that islamofascists have a lot in common with fascists isn't islamophobic. Making shit up to slander all of Islam probably is though. Shithead.
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Sure. German-American citizens rallying to support the Third Reich. Just like Muslim Americans in modern America rallying to support the Caliphate. And we still haven't learned a damn thing apparently since pointing out that Islamic fundamentalists have a lot of commonality with the Nazis in that video is apparently "islamophobic" and criticizing uncontrolled immigration is "racist".
Yup - It can happen right here.
While your strange reply almostt sounds like approving of American Nazis because Islamics somehow all support ISIS, I'll reply.
https://washingtonsblog.com/20... [washingtonsblog.com]
Lots of American citizens and companies were very approving of the National socialist party and even worked with them.
Which Islamic businesses and leaders in the USA are actively supporting and working directly with ISIS?
Have radical Islamists held rallies in Madison Square Garden? It isn't even remotely the same thing you are trying to sugg
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I mean sure, freedom of speech must allow for these shitheads to exist, and to demonstrate, and while I find them vile, I'm ok with that right existing for all of us.
However... There's a point, probably when the first Nuremberg Rally is held... that people need to start wondering if they should have fought back while they still could, no?
And no, I'm not saying we're there. But I do wonder if we'll get there.
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straight out of a bad WOII movie plot, where the nazi's will investigate the occult and unnatural to gain the upper hand. who knew this is more reality than fiction?
Gotta admit, those Vril chicks were pretty hot.
our government is a sucker (Score:1)
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More to the point, the current administration is the sucker.
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The administration is appointed by the government.
eg. Trump has personally made several changes to the administration and none of them have added any fact-based policies (quite the opposite in fact...it's almost as if he doesn't want any pesky facts getting in the way)
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As bad as Trump is he was still able to defeat his opponents. What does that say about the quality of those he defeated? And those who lost have not acknowledged or made any efforts to correct their policy platform. All they have did is focus all their efforts on running grandiose investigations in search of a crime. The tactics being used to destroy the President will be visited upon all Presidents going forward. The investigations are also another example of the legislative branch grabbing for more author
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This business is still less silly than the script for Bin Laden's demise; if you can believe that, you can believed anything.
Tom DeLonge left Blink-182 in 2015 (Score:3, Informative)
From WikiPedia:
Tom DeLonge (/dl/) (born December 13, 1975)[1] is an American musician, singer, songwriter, author, record producer, actor and filmmaker. He is the lead vocalist and guitarist of the rock band Angels & Airwaves, which he formed in 2005, and was the co-lead vocalist, guitarist, and co-founder of the rock band Blink-182 from its formation in 1992 until his dismissal from the group in 2015.
Matt Skiba has been the lead singer since.
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I really enjoyed his band Angels and Airwaves for some reason. Something about that kind of spacey new wave sound they had going.
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What research could they do? It's pretty well confirmed that unexplained aerial phenomena appear from time to time - lots of video evidence, and plenty of respectable eye witnesses.
So, how exactly do you study a rare aerial phenomena that rarely lasts long? You pretty much need to build a widely dispersed network of observation outposts, and ideally aircraft, to get as good a view as possible whenever we spot one... which is exactly what the air force and Navy are already doing. We might get some more fr
Who signed such a contract? (Score:4, Insightful)
I am all for research and development for new materials and technologies. But to buy it from a "Research Group" who says it is from a Crash Landed UFO would raise some red flags in their research methodology.
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The government isn't paying TTSA anything
So it seems they are agreeing to spend $750k on research that presumably focuses on the materials these guys have and incorporate what they know. If anything it sounds like a JDA type arrangement where both sides do some R&D and agree to compare notes.
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They found my missing sock pairs, so maybe there's something to 'em.
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Meh. I'm really looking forward to the inertia reduction and directed energy propulsion technology.
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"Realistic" you say? If so, you'll do it once and then pay for it the rest of your life in alimony and/or constant nagging.
Re:Who signed such a contract? (Score:4)
The first iron industry emerging on this planet was based nearly purely on crash landed meteor iron ...
another company enters the ring.. (Score:4, Funny)
Dave Grohl of the foo fighters and CEO of yoyodyne industries has expressed interest in licencing their everlong(tm) fabrics which provide superior camouflage and wicking abilities. We reached out to Dave and he was quoted in saying "If everything could ever feel this real forever... If anything could ever be this good again"
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The post above is highly underrated.
These guys are defending America? (Score:1)
I have renewed hope for hoverboards! (Score:2)
Been waiting since Back to the Future II. If we get hoverboards the investment will be well worth it. Seth Sentry expresses my thoughts best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
No money changed hands - Interesting situation (Score:5, Interesting)
The War Room has good covering [thedrive.com] of this and has obtained a copy of the 26 page contract. No money has been paid to TTSA, and the army simply considers the materials sufficiently interesting that it's worth investigating.
The contract contains some unusual statements including, "To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science is a company with materiel and technology innovations that offer capability advancements for Army ground vehicles." As The War Room points out, this statement stands out because it's completely unqualified. It doesn't say they "might have materiel and technology innovations," it says they they do have. It also says, "These technology innovations have been acquired, designed, and produced by the Collaborator [TTSA], leveraging advancements in metamaterials and quantum physics to push performance gains."
What makes TTSA interesting is the high-calibre of personnel [tothestarsacademy.com] at the organisation (see The Team). It's not just some nut jobs, but highly educated people (e.g. Dr Hal Puthoff - PhD from Stanford, Dr Paul Rapp - PhD from Cambridge) and people with decades of experience in industry (Steve Justice - 31 years at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works). Tom DeLonge himself is undeniably a UFO nut job, but he seems to have said the right thing at the right time. He wanted to make a documentary about Skunk Works, and when visiting the site he was invited to an employee party, no doubt just because he's a celebrity. At the party he was asked to introduce the head of Skunk Works to the podium, again purely because he's a celebrity. He said he'd do it if he could talk to the head for five minutes alone. His pitch was that the military industrial establishment has developed a negative image, particularly amongst millennials, who hate the military. He said people are graduating from MIT and they don't want to work for Lockheed Martin, they want to work for Tesla or Google or whatever. DeLonge offered to help them improve the image of the defence companies and defence forces, which seems to be the aim of the TTSA. DeLonge's pitch appears to have struck a nerve, so he's ended up in a position with access to high-ranking personnel and information. One wonders if TTSA is a sort-of recruitment programme to get people interested in working in fields such as aerospace and defence. One thing that's certain is that you can't write off TTSA as the usual bunch of UFO crackpots, purely people of the people at the organisation. TTSA have also been buying a lot of supposed UFO materiel, much of which has been junk, but the materials acquired from journalist Linda Moulton Howe appear to be sufficiently interesting to attract the attention of the US Army.
There are also some other unusual developments recently related to aerospace and UFO-like technology, particularly with the US Navy's Salvatore Cezar Pais patents. Slashdot covered the Navy's compact fusion reactor patent [slashdot.org], which was covered in more detail [thedrive.com] on The War Room and the patent can be seen here [google.com]. The Navy have filed [thedrive.com] four other Salvatore Pais patents for a room temperature super conductor [google.com], an electromagnetic field ge [google.com]
Re: No money changed hands - Interesting situation (Score:2)
Under any other circumstances these patents would all look like nonsense, but when it's the Navy filing the patents, it makes it rather more interesting.
And that's where your thought process went off the rails.
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Defense Research Often Fraud (Score:1)
DARPA addressed this by having very targeted goals with very fixed research project lifespans.
I'm afraid sprawling research programs is happening again after people have forgotten how this failed the last time around.