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When the NBA Returns It May Use 'NBA 2K' For Crowd Noise (engadget.com) 70

Posted by BeauHD from the something-has-to-be-done dept.
One of the issues with the NBA's plan to restart its season in July is playing games without fans in the arena. According to a report from The Athletic, there's a proposal to pipe in crowd noise from the NBA 2K video game. Engadget reports: NBA 2K also serves as the platform for the league's official esports series and has already simulated its own end to the 2019-2020 regular season, and its attention to details of the basketball experience may help fill in the blanks. Some leagues that have returned to action during the coronavirus pandemic already use piped-in sound, including Bundesliga soccer, and Sky Sports is planning to use EA's FIFA 20 game to a similar effect on Premier League broadcasts.
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  • Layup (Score:2, Interesting)

    by moxrespawn ( 6714000 )

    Literally everything about our society is becoming virtual, and people still attack theistic metaphysics.

    Strange, no?

    • and people still attack theistic metaphysics.

      We should ask these question when a significant fraction of people believe simulated players, simulated actors, and simulated girlfriends are real.

      • And how much time do you spend, including movies, video games, and books, on things that "aren't real"?

        Your metaphysics is simplistic, but yes, there's a lot of simpletons.

        • Metaphysical Idealism
          Solipsism
          Universe simulation
          Holographic universe
          Anthropic principle

          Might help make this thread non-simplistic, but probably not. We can go back to the inflated bags of simulated leather.

        • And how much time do you spend, including movies, video games, and books, on things that "aren't real"?

          I spend zero time believing in things that aren't real (to the best of my knowledge, haha). And an inordinate amount of time at pretend, make-belief, and play.

  • Noise not necessary (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Going_Digital ( 1485615 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @07:34AM (#60152322)
    Quite frankly one of the most annoying thing about any sporting event is the damn noise. If I could watch a live game without the crowd noise I'd be happy.

    • Re:Noise not necessary (Score:5, Informative)

      by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @07:51AM (#60152360)

      >"Quite frankly one of the most annoying thing about any sporting event is the damn noise. If I could watch a live game without the crowd noise I'd be happy."

      You can. Just wear ear filters. I carry them with me everywhere. The best kind are "musician's earplugs" which are specially designed to lower the volume without overly distorting (muffling mostly the highs), and are made of medical-grade silicone. Almost invisible, easy to use, comfortable, and effective. I use them at parties, concerts, movie theaters, and other places.

      Earasers are a good example https://www.earasers.net/ [earasers.net] they are far less expensive than custom ones.

      • Re:Noise not necessary (Score:5, Insightful)

        by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Saturday June 06, 2020 @09:17AM (#60152546) Homepage Journal

        This is a rare opportunity to hear the sounds of the game. Then they want to ruin it with the sports equivalent of a laugh track.

        • >"This is a rare opportunity to hear the sounds of the game. Then they want to ruin it with the sports equivalent of a laugh track."

          Agreed. It seems a bit silly.

          But that is different than wanting the [real] sounds of an event, only not so loud. This is why I wear filters- I can enjoy the venue but without a headache, sound-stress/fatigue, or hearing damage. I am amazed at how dangerously loud many events are, even some movie theaters.

          If you EVER have ANY ringing in your ears or any type of sound disto

          • Ear plugs hurt my ears, and give me earaches. I use over ear hearing protection when I do loud stuff, like cutting metal, while my co workers use plugs. But they would look a bit silly at a concert.

            • >"Ear plugs hurt my ears, and give me earaches."

              Have you tried the type that I recommended? I, too, have trouble with "conventional" earplugs. I have an even worse time with anything touching my outer ears. But the type I am pointing to are very soft and flexible, properly shaped for the ear canal, have no "fins" and nothing that touches any other part of the ear. Regular earplugs will irritate me and make me sick after 30 min. But these flexible silicone ones I can wear for an unlimited time. I h

              • Yeah just having any kind of plugs in bothers my ears. Maybe it's because I make a lot of ear wax.

        • I don't know if ....maybe I'm weird. But from what I've seen in basketball tells me that the players need the crowd noise. Kinda seems like they're all full of themselves, and get so excited when they score. Basketball, to me, seems like a huge ego-trip, and the crowd noise is the cash that the ego counts.

          Shit, did I say basketball? I meant all American sports.

        • Re:Noise not necessary (Score:4, Funny)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:21PM (#60153274) Homepage Journal

          They should get the NBA Jam guy to do the commentary too.

          Nobody says BOOM SHAKALAKA better than that guy.

        • It's going to seem very strange without crowd noise, like you are watching a practice game.

          It's going to be even stranger to watch the game with cheering noises, but no fans in the seats. Are they going to edit in fake fans as well? o_o

      • I watch a fair bit of tennis, where the audience in quiet during play. You just have the stupid announcers.

        One time, there was a technical problem, and the announcers were offline. It was glorious! You heard the ball, you heard the refs, you heard the athletes. No idiot battering nonsense.

        We wrote the station and suggested that the offer this as a regular option on the second audio channel. Man, we're they insulted ðY

    • The crowd noise is actually part of the game, and helps contribute to whats known as "home field advantage". For example, football is a very verbal game with the play, blocking schemes, adjustments, etc being relayed by voice. An active, hostile crowd can keep the opposing team from communicating clearly. And several NFL teams have been caught and punished for piping in artificial crowd noise.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        For example, football is a very verbal game with the play, blocking schemes, adjustments, etc being relayed by voice. An active, hostile crowd can keep the opposing team from communicating clearly. And several NFL teams have been caught and punished for piping in artificial crowd noise.

        This was why it was very controversial a number of years ago when they started putting headsets in the helmets so the coaches and players could communicate with each other.

        The once it became common, it became equally common f

    • Quite frankly one of the most annoying thing about any sporting event is the damn noise. If I could watch a live game without the crowd noise I'd be happy.

      I could not disagree more. The only reason I go to a live sport is for the atmosphere. I can see better on the TV at home. I know more about what's going on from the TV at home, and the commentary is intelligent that gives additional insights from the TV at home, and that doesn't contain the crowd noise.

  • What's next? (Score:4, Funny)

    by technoviking1 ( 6415930 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @07:38AM (#60152330)
    Laugh tracks at live comedy shows?

    • I don't know if you're watched Have I Got News For You lately (UK), but the comedians are sitting at home behind their webcams without any crowd noise. Essentially it's a Skype call between 5 people, broadcast on TV.

      Well, it's actually really nice: for once you hear the naked humor (and lack thereof) of the panelists as it truly is - without the forced laughter from the audience. It must be frightening for the participants, because there's just no cushion when one of the jokes bomb.

    • Bill Maher is using vintage laughs on his show, which I realize is not live. It's annoying. If it's necessary to the kind of material he's using, maybe he should branch out.

  • They might as well import the commentators voices!

  • how fuckin dumb most sports are when one of the biggest asset is a bunch of drunken buffoons screaming

    • Oh come on, nobody ever claimed sport was a Nobel-prize-winning activity. Actually half of the fun, for those who are into it, is sitting and shouting with similarly-minded people. If you go to a game just to watch 22 morons run after a balloon on a patch of grass like the trained monkeys they are, there's something wrong with you.

    • one of the biggest asset is a bunch of drunken buffoons screaming

      Florida has built a multi-billion dollar Spring Break industry on that asset.

  • Or alternatively... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Viol8 ( 599362 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @08:31AM (#60152428) Homepage

    ...get rid of this hysterical social distancing nonsense that exists simply to keep paranoid hypochondriacs happy, and let grown adults make their own decisions wrt entering a crowd. They're probably more at risk of death from driving to the stadium than from covid in the crowd.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I agree. I look forward to a future in which sports morons have been culled from the population.

    • Re:Or alternatively... (Score:4, Informative)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @12:20PM (#60153256) Homepage Journal

      Yeah problem is those idiots not social distancing end up costing the rest of us money. Free healthcare and support from the government, i.e. our taxes.

    • ...get rid of this hysterical social distancing nonsense that exists simply to keep paranoid hypochondriacs happy, and let grown adults make their own decisions wrt entering a crowd. They're probably more at risk of death from driving to the stadium than from covid in the crowd.

      Sure. As long as we can lock the stadium for a few weeks. Think of all the benefits:
      a) everyone coming out will have herd immunity
      b) a large portion of people won't come out and thus we have reduced the number of morons in the world.

      I wish you luck in your game of life player Viol8

    • "yet grown adults make their own decisions"

      The problem is that the anti-social distancers get a veto over the pro-social distancers, so someone who is pro-social distancing doesn't actually get to make their own decision.

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  • Why not just stream actual NBA2K games... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Glasswire ( 302197 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @08:44AM (#60152452) Homepage

    ...from two AIs playing each game instead of dragging those humans into dangerous sites at immense cost?

  • Sound Effects (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Retired ICS ( 6159680 ) on Saturday June 06, 2020 @09:09AM (#60152522)

    Perhaps they should pipe in the sound of old-fashioned cash registers ringing up the cash since that is really what this is all about. Just a bunch of overpaid children running to and fro signifying nothing of import. But I guess Caesars Bread and Circuses are still needed to keep the proletariat in line.

    • The Roman governors or other political leaders were the ones that paid for the games, up until one of the emperors banned them. Modern sports are funded by the people themselves who pay to attend games, watch them on television, or purchase merchandise. If the people are buying their own bread and circuses that’s their decision.

      If the athletes that compete can get that much money why shouldn’t they? Should the team owners get all of it instead? If you don’t like the highest levels of co

      • With thanks to Mark Twain, pro sports is surely one of the grotesquest of all the swindles ever invented by man. Normal people have been convinced to give their money and love for the sake of watching rich people play each other in a game where the profits are funneled to ludicrously rich people and even divide themselves into tribes that at times violently attack each other over the results.

        And to top it off, the ludicrously rich trick voters into funding stadiums and infrastructure to support their insan

  • Empty stadiums will be a cool novelty. Fans would love to watch a game like that. Things like this only happen once in a lifetime, so embrace the few months of silent stadiums.
  • Its going to be like on the Star Trek episode "Bread and Circuses": a man adjusting dials labelled "Boos", "Cheers" and other crowd noises. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] starting around 0:35
  • They could save a lot of money by using the players from the video game as well. Much less domestic violence and other crime from players, too.
  • I mean how will the teams get the $500 Crowd Boos addition. Also the $1500 Obnoxious Fan Boo, the $2000 Naked Fan Running Around on Floor Pack (M17 warning). Also they have to unlock the $5000 Celebrity Sitting Courtside Bonus Pack.

  • I tried watching a KBO game on ESPN and the visual of no crowd with the sound of a crowd got me to turn it off after 3 innings.

  • Surely tech has gotten to the point where we can have NPC fans overlaid on the empty stands?

  • At home, NBA 2K is used to simulate players. In arenas, it will be used to simulate spectators.

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