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'Dune' Sequel Greenlit by Legendary and Warner Bros. (cnbc.com) 168

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Denis Villeneuve will get the chance to create the second film of his planned two-part adaptation of Frank Herbert's "Dune," Legendary Entertainment and Warner Bros. said Tuesday. From a report: The news comes after Villeneuve's "Dune" tallied $41 million at the domestic box office during its debut over the weekend, a solid haul considering the film also launched on HBO Max Friday. Globally, the film hauled in $220 million. While Warner Bros. seemed keen to greenlight a second film for Villeneuve, Legendary owns the cinematic rights to the novel and had to be onboard in order to continue the story on the big screen. The second film is expected to follow Paul Atreides (Timothee Chalamet) as he joins the Fremen and works to bring peace to the desert planet of Arrakis. "Dune: Part Two" will debut on Oct. 20, 2023.
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  • Where does this line up with the 1984 Dune?

    Did Dune 1984 and Dune 2021 end at the same part? Is Dune 2 going to go further in the book?

    • Re:Questions... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Guspaz ( 556486 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @01:54PM (#61929287)

      1984 crammed the entire book into one movie. 2021 split the book in two parts.

      • Re:Questions... (Score:5, Funny)

        by Squiddie ( 1942230 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @02:07PM (#61929331)
        Yeah, but 1984 Dune had Sting.
        • And "weirding modules".

          • How are weirding modules any more bizarre than literally any other part of Dune the novel?

            The most ridiculous part of 1984 Dune, in retrospect, is a desert planet with all white people.

            • Well, it *was* 1984, so maybe that wouldn't be the most ridiculous part of the movie. It would be the most ridiculous part of this movie [wikipedia.org], though.

              • Hard to say, without knowing what time period the movie takes place. After a certain time, the royalty in Egypt were all Greeks.

            • To be fair, maybe it's so hot they never go out during the day, so no need for melanin.

            • Weirding modules a major f'up. (Score:5, Informative)

              by drnb ( 2434720 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @03:09PM (#61929617)

              How are weirding modules any more bizarre than literally any other part of Dune the novel?

              They f'up a major underpinning of the universe that this six book series contains. Fremen martial superiority, and that of another military organization in the universe, is not based on some technology. Its kind of hard to discuss without spoilers so here is an analogy. Imagine a Star Wars movie without "the force". It could be a fun movie but it wouldn't be Star Wars, it would be a very different story. So is Lynch's, a fun movie but not really Dune, a critical underlying theme was discarded.

            • Damn. That's a superb point. They at least should have had brown skin tone, presuming their physiology was identical to earthers.

              • Damn. That's a superb point. They at least should have had brown skin tone, presuming their physiology was identical to earthers.

                No its not a superb point, its just a political point. The Fremen people did not evolve there, they were transported there by spaceship, they colonized Arrakis. Now IIRC these colonists would be brownish as they were largely a community that originated from Middle Eastern earth. Send "desert folk" to the desert planet the imperial bureaucrats decided. Literally, there is some mention of something like that somewhere in the six books.

                If you want real ethnic confusion note the Atreides are of Greek origin,

            • The most ridiculous part of 1984 Dune, in retrospect, is a desert planet with all white people.

              I live in sunny Spain but I'm a redhead and as white as snow because I don't go out in daylight hours.

            • The most ridiculous part of 1984 Dune, in retrospect, is a desert planet with all white people.
              a: they where not all white
              b: the first space ship there landing dropped the people

              The weird thing about Dune is: how did the human race settle "the whole universe". Not if people in a movie are all white.

              You know what is weird in a move? If for all political correctness (and for what ever reason they made the _same_ movie again) a black guy is a knight in "Robin Hood". That is weird. Double weird actually.

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by drnb ( 2434720 )

                The weird thing about Dune is: how did the human race settle "the whole universe".

                Faster Than Light Travel + Robotic/AI Scouting + Persistence + 8,000 Years.

              • The black guy in Robinhood was a Moor. Many came from North Africa and ruled Spain for 700 years. However, that never made a whole lot of sense since Robinhood in the movie supposedly was part of the failed 3rd Crusade under Richard the Lionheart who's campaign went no where near Africa and would have avoided Moorish Spain. However, Sicily was likely Moorish at the time and many crusaders crossed to Turkey from Italy

                • The black guy in Robinhood was a Moor. Many came from North Africa and ruled Spain for 700 years. However, that never made a whole lot of sense since Robinhood in the movie supposedly was part of the failed 3rd Crusade under Richard the Lionheart who's campaign went no where near Africa and would have avoided Moorish Spain. However, Sicily was likely Moorish at the time and many crusaders crossed to Turkey from Italy

                  No, as of 1091 and until 1266, Sicily was ruled by Norman kings who ruled over a very diverse collection of Sicilians, Arab Muslims Jews and Byzantine Greeks who were all allowed to practice their religions in peace, much to the annoyance of the pope. This allowed the Sicilian kings to trade with both the Muslim powers of the time and the Byzantines which in turn made the Sicilian kings very wealthy and which of course pissed the pope off even more. The Norman kings of Italy eventually married into the Germ

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by drnb ( 2434720 )

              The most ridiculous part of 1984 Dune, in retrospect, is a desert planet with all white people.

              Politics is confusing your Science. People did not evolve on Dune. The racial composition would be whatever the passengers of the spaceships with settlers were. IIRC Fremen culture links back to Middle Eastern earth, as one might guess from language elements.

        • And Sir Patrick Stewart but is still doesn't make up for the bothering they did to trim the book down into a couple hours.

        • Sting holding a cat taped to a rat no less.

          BUT WHY??

    • Dune Part One, this 2021 film, covers roughly the first 2/3 of the runtime of the 1984 film, ending with Paul and Lady Jessica joining the Fremen in the desert as they head towards the sietch. Without spoiling the specifics, it concludes with an event from the first book that wasn't in the theatrical release of the 1984 Dune, which was a pleasant change for me.

      My recollection of the 1984 version is that the back 1/3 of the film made use of a lot of montages to quickly advance the plot with the Fremen, intro

      • I wonder, since pt.1 went good 2/3 of the way into the book, while following it pretty closely, not skipping all that much, and taking a moderate amount of creative liberties, will Pt.2 bite into "Messiah?"

        I sincerely hope they won't drag out the Battle for Arrakis into an hour of special effects with little to no story progression.

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by aitikin ( 909209 )

          I wonder, since pt.1 went good 2/3 of the way into the book, while following it pretty closely, not skipping all that much, and taking a moderate amount of creative liberties, will Pt.2 bite into "Messiah?"

          I sincerely hope they won't drag out the Battle for Arrakis into an hour of special effects with little to no story progression.

          GP didn't say 2/3 of the book, rather the 1984 movie. 2021 Dune ends pretty much with "Book 1" of Dune (much like The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Dune had separate "Books" in the same novel, but none of the other Dune novels that Frank wrote) of which there were 3 in the first book.

          As Anubis IV indicated, the movie ends with the characters that go to the sietch, going to the sietch for the first time.

        • I sincerely hope they won't drag out the Battle for Arrakis into an hour of special effects with little to no story progression.

          If they maintain quality Part Two being an action movie won't be bad. Consider Alien and Aliens.

      • Same experience here. I really enjoyed the movie as did my wife who has never read the books nor really remembers the 1984 movie (though I did make her watch it at one point). She is even excited to read the books now!

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by nucrash ( 549705 )

        I have been watching and rewatching both movies. I even revisited the 2000 Sci-Fi version of Frank Herbert's Dune. Two-thirds the way through is correct, but there are many things that are skipped over that could be further developed in the second movie.

        Dune Part 1 (2021) doesn't over-explain much of what's going on and leaves out a lot of details that readers of the book already understand. You don't have the plot exposition'd down your throat and merely see chess pieces moving along without any real r

      • My recollection of the 1984 version is that the back 1/3 of the film made use of a lot of montages to quickly advance the plot with the Fremen

        Understatement. The back 1/3rd of the film was an utterly mis-paced train wreak. It's like giving a presentation and being half way through only to be told you're 5 min before the end of the hour long session.

    • Did Dune 1984 and Dune 2021 end at the same part?

      No. Dune 1984 went to the end of the book and squeezed everything in about 2 hours. Dune 2021 (Part 1) covers about 2/3s of the events depicted in Dune 1984.

      Is Dune 2 going to go further in the book?

      Dune Part 2 will finish the book. There are 5 sequels to the Dune novel.

    • I liked it. Villeneuve didn't screw it up. It's closer to the book than the 1984 Lynch version and Timothy Chalamet is closer to the Paul Atreides I imagined. It's not as crazy-campy as the 1984 version ( which I liked) but it still does a really good job at presenting the Harkonnen as larger than life baddies. Skalsgard does his psychopath thing as the Baron and nails it. The cast is well chosen across the board, except maybe for lady Jessica who is a bit meh and a tad too young to be Pauls mother. But she

  • A two part movie that does not do the 2nd part is not something cheer for.

    Glad part 2 Is happening.
    • I wonder if they made a point to reach this decision while part 1 was still in theaters in order to boost ticket sales for it. Like you said, reticence to spend your time watching the first half of something that might never be finished is not everybody's cup of tea.
  • Hopefully there will also be a Dune 3 covering Dune Messiah!

  • Erhm....

    Legendary has to greelight the next film.... They were the bank. And with a $110,000,000 million return )world wide) so far they have not broke even on the $165,000,000 budget.

    This isn't happening.... yet... or ever.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by drnb ( 2434720 )

      They were the bank. And with a $110,000,000 million return )world wide) so far they have not broke even on the $165,000,000 budget.

      Worldwide is $220M not $110M

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by aitikin ( 909209 )

      Erhm....

      Legendary has to greelight the next film.... They were the bank. And with a $110,000,000 million return )world wide) so far they have not broke even on the $165,000,000 budget.

      This isn't happening.... yet... or ever.

      I get it, we're on /., you don't read everything. But please, if you're going to make statements like this, at least RTFS...

      Denis Villeneuve will get the chance to create the second film of his planned two-part adaptation of Frank Herbert's "Dune," Legendary Entertainment and Warner Bros. said Tuesday. From a report: The news comes after Villeneuve's "Dune" tallied $41 million at the domestic box office during its debut over the weekend, a solid haul considering the film also launched on HBO Max Friday. Gl

    • This isn't happening.... yet... or ever.

      Erhm, it's *already* happened. The film has already taken in $223million world wide, and those figures only include the domestic opening of $41m. Effectively it has already turned a profit despite only registering opening weekend figures in *most* of the world.

      If Europe is anything to go by expect USA + China alone to turn a profit in the next 3 weeks (combined opening of $60m), to say nothing of the rest of the world.

  • Bring peace? Did you read the book? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by drnb ( 2434720 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @02:49PM (#61929519)
    === Spoiler Altert ===

    The second film is expected to follow Paul Atreides (Timothee Chalamet) as he joins the Fremen and works to bring peace to the desert planet of Arrakis.

    Bring peace? Did you read the book? "Bring peace" is an awfully strange way to describe a jihad (yes, that is the word author Frank Herbert uses and the context is a religious war) that spreads across the known universe.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by ranton ( 36917 )

      Bring peace? Did you read the book? "Bring peace" is an awfully strange way to describe a jihad

      My admittedly nearly 30 year old recollection was that Paul was trying to bring peace but ultimately failed to stop the jihad. My memory may be off or I may have forgotten significant nuance from the story.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by drnb ( 2434720 )

        Bring peace? Did you read the book? "Bring peace" is an awfully strange way to describe a jihad

        My admittedly nearly 30 year old recollection was that Paul was trying to bring peace but ultimately failed to stop the jihad. My memory may be off or I may have forgotten significant nuance from the story.

        You could argue he wanted to bring peace to the universe but brutal warfare was part of the plan on Arrakis. So it was more contain the jihad to Arrakis and usurp the role of emperor. Universal peace would remain an imperial peace. But then the usurping did not occur so peacefully, and the imperial rule that followed not so peaceful either.

    • Bring peace? Did you read the book? "Bring peace" is an awfully strange way to describe a jihad

      It's not the book that wasn't read, it's history. A great many wars are fought under the pretense of "bringing peace". What happened in Dune and the massacre of 61000000 did end up bringing peace for over 3000 years. Sure it's peace under tyranny and through absolute oppression, but peace none the less as was ultimately the goal of the messiah.

  • Hollywood keeps trying to retell the same store. Maybe they should start with some other stories like The Iliad & The Odyssey, or The Epic of Gilgamesh.

    • I can't imagine any retelling of the Epic of Gilgamesh that people would want to watch. Including me, and I've read the Epic of Gilgamesh several times.

      • Well, I was hoping for a retelling that improves it. Gilgamesh needs a good editor that could pare that story down so that it makes sense and isn't quite so tedious.

        I don't think the Iliad is all that great as a whole either. But there are definitely great parts that everyone remembers. (and those parts are often referenced in cartoon plots)

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by drnb ( 2434720 )

          Gilgamesh needs a good editor that could pare that story down so that it makes sense and isn't quite so tedious.

          That is done in the Old Testament to a degree.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by drnb ( 2434720 )

        I can't imagine any retelling of the Epic of Gilgamesh that people would want to watch. Including me, and I've read the Epic of Gilgamesh several times.

        Well 2014's Noah made $360M on a $160M investment, and that is based on Gilgamesh.

        • That movie is so horrendously painful to watch. And I'm not a bible thumper mad they change story elements. They set up an OK fantasy universe that sorta vaguely resembles the Noah story then turned Noah into a complete idiot for no apparent reason. That video game level CGI evolution thing they stuck in there for no reason didn't help much. I'm still trying to figure out how Noah managed to brew alcohol before the rest of his family could set up shelter.

        • More likely they both have elements from a story that existed long before either was written.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by drnb ( 2434720 )

            More likely they both have elements from a story that existed long before either was written.

            Gilgamesh is certainly derived from even older Sumerian works, however the spread of the tales might have been more linear than parallel. Gilgamesh getting more distribution via "print" than the older stuff that was mostly oral.

            • Gilgamesh is certainly derived from even older Sumerian works, however the spread of the tales might have been more linear than parallel.

              What are you saying here, that the version in the bible was derived because someone copied it from the epic of gilgamesh? That didn't happen.

              Gilgamesh getting more distribution via "print" than the older stuff that was mostly oral.

              That seems unlikely, given the wide distribution of the flood myth, and the relatively narrow distribution of the Gilgamesh epic.

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by drnb ( 2434720 )
                Gilgamesh was narrowly distributed from our perspective, not necessarily the perspective of ancient Hebrew scribes/authors. Ancient Greeks scribes/authors probably had better access too.

    • There are plenty of unique and original stories out there. But why retell this story? Because so far no one has done a good job of it.

      • Seems unlikely to happen given the source material. Dune Messiah and God Emperor of Dune are pretty weak, and Chapterhouse: Dune is bad in my opinion but some people really like it. Only the first book is strong enough to stand on its own. The rest are for the fandom it seems, with the weakest books having structural problems in the writing.

        • Seems unlikely to happen given the source material.

          Why do you talk in future tense? Personally I really enjoyed Dune Part I and if this Greenlit Part II is as good then I personally declare it a success. It's already miles ahead of the 1984 train wreak. Also, no need to talk about Dune Messiah or God Emperor of Dune. I'd be happy just having the first story told well, and thus far we're only half way though, many thanks to this time not rushing through the entire second half of the book in 20min like the 1984 film did.

          • Why do you talk in future tense?

            Because I was responding to "Because so far no one has done a good job of it."

            So why is it that you talk in the future tense?

            I'd be happy just having the first story told well

            There is the 2000 mini-series. We can safely ignore Lynch's "interesting" take on a book that not everyone involved in the making of the film bothered to read. Visuals and costumes are perhaps the best Lynch has done in his career, too bad the rest of the film doesn't make much sense.

        • I liked Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. Dune Messiah in particular is great because it contrasts and subverts the whole trope about Paul being the "chosen one".

    • Dune is very different from those stories. The protagonist is a disastrous product of feudalism, eugenics and religious manipulation, who doesn't really succeed at anything noble or good, only in seizing power. You could say Dune is a criticism of that kind of story.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by drnb ( 2434720 )

      Hollywood keeps trying to retell the same store. Maybe they should start with some other stories like The Iliad & The Odyssey, or The Epic of Gilgamesh.

      So you think Hollywood has not told these stories? LOL.

    • They did the Iliad with Brad Pitt not so long ago.

  • Part 1 follows the theme of the book reasonably well and everybody's who supposed to be dead at the end of Part 1 is dead (I wasn't sure because of some of the big stars in the cast and, in Hollywood, star tend to get different stories than what's in the source material). I didn't think I'd like Timothée Chalamet as Paul but he's did a very good job. Rebecca Ferguson as Jessica was "meh" at best - I always pictured Jessica as being proud and regal (as she was the result of a centuries long breeding plan) and Ferguson seemed to be more like his younger sister than the mother that has prepared him for the trials of noble life. I *really* like Stellan Skarsgård as an actor, but his choice for how he played the baron can only be described as WTF.

    The standout performance was by Jason Momoa as Dundan Idaho - I definitely looked at the character in a different way after his performance. Josh Brolin is going to have a very hard time to match the energy, love and wisdom that Momoa's Idaho showed.

    Some scenes from the book that I thought were important to the story are deleted or compressed which is not a surprise. There is a bit more action than in the book and I found it was done quite well with a new perspective on how the shields work. Despite these changes the movie drags a bit two thirds of the way through. One thing that could be disconcerting is that some of the dialog from the book is moved to different scenes.

    The (family) group I saw the film with consisted of people who had read and loved the book and a couple of people who hadn't but wanted to see something after Covid. Everybody walked away feeling like they saw something pretty good and want to got back and (re-)read the book.

  • I liked the new Dune movie and I like all of Dennis's movies.
    I'm glad they are doing a sequel, but why so long? Oct 2023?
    That's 2 years from now. I would have thought they would keep filming, knowing it was going to get a sequel.

    But I guess that gives him time to make a better script and add more to it.

    • I would have thought they would keep filming, knowing it was going to get a sequel.

      The deal to get the high production standards (ie get the big money for production) required a tradeoff. The second part would not be funded until the first part is a confirmed success. That limits the risk.

    • Re:Why so long? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by neilo_1701D ( 2765337 ) on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @04:00PM (#61929823)

      I liked the new Dune movie and I like all of Dennis's movies.
      I'm glad they are doing a sequel, but why so long? Oct 2023?
      That's 2 years from now. I would have thought they would keep filming, knowing it was going to get a sequel.

      But I guess that gives him time to make a better script and add more to it.

      You've nailed the most stupid decision WB made since the last stupid decision.

      Making films back-to-back results in better logistics, better economies & a more consistent look & feel. Lord of the Rings, for example, was done like this. But now, you better hope the sets were stored somewhere safe, the actors don't age too much (or die); the special effects houses keep all their assets ready to go etc etc.

    • That's 2 years from now. I would have thought they would keep filming, knowing it was going to get a sequel.

      Part 2 wasn't greenlit. Normally when movies in a series get made the second parts start shooting or at least go into pre-production when the first one is still in post-production.

      Movies take a *long* time to get made. This is just a reflection of how long it actually takes and the fact that they hadn't actually started.

  • I'm pissed mainly because the first time I learned this was a two-parter was in the opening credits. It was long, and I don't get the pay-off? Pfft.
    • I'm not sure how you missed that it was going to be in two parts since that was widely broadcast and discussed since it was first announced that they were actually going to make it.

      • I'm not sure how you missed that it was going to be in two parts since that was widely broadcast and discussed since it was first announced that they were actually going to make it.

        Not all of us follow media and stories about movie production. The trailer did not indicate at any point that this was only Part 1. The official full title of the movie is "Dune". No where in my cinema on the posters, nor on the film description does it state it's a Part 1. So for those of us who don't read E! Weekly or spend all day on Screen Rant, the first time we actually noticed it was a 2 parter was sitting in the cinema noting the title card flashed up with the word Part 1.

        At first I actually thought

        • Sure if you paid zero attention to anything, you will not know it is in 2 parts but that is the same as walking into Fellowship of the Ring and not knowing it is a trilogy.
    • Sometimes... ignorance isn't bliss. And I say this as someone who is fully aware how unaware I am of my own.

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