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This Year's Big Oscar Winners: 'Dune', Apple TV+ and James Bond (indiewire.com) 117

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Dune won six Academy Awards tonight — the most of any movie — at this year's Oscar's ceremony, taking home Oscars for its cinematography, visual effects, film editing, original score, production design, and "achievement in sound."

But the movie's Oscar-winning crew were surprised there was no Oscar nomination for the film's director, Denis Villeneuve, reports IndieWire: "I was very confused when Denis was not nominated for directing. It's as if the film directed itself and all of these craft categories magically did great work," sound designer/supervising sound editor Theo Green said. "Seeing the sweep that Dune is having tonight makes me very proud for Denis."

Green and other below-the-line winners painted a production picture where Villeneuve orchestrated a kind of cross-department collaboration that allowed each craftsperson's work to shine and work in concert with every other piece. Re-recording mixer Ron Bartlett said it all started with Villeneuve's deep study of the book. "It's better than the sum of its parts," Fraser said. "We are the culmination of Denis Villeneuve's combined group effort to make a movie, and that's what I'm most proud of." Several winners also called out editor Joe Walker as a key piece of the creation of Dune.
Besides the six Oscars it won, Dune had also been nominated for four other awards, including Best Picture.

Tonight's ceremony featured a tribute to 60 years of James Bond movies — and the franchise's most recent film also won the "Best Song" Oscar (for the song "No Time to Die" by Billie Eilish). This marks the third consecutive time that a James Bond movie's theme song has gone on to win the "Best Song" award.

And Apple TV+ became the first streaming service to ever win the prestigious Best Picture award for their movie CODA. NBC News calls this "a major moment for a film industry that has been dramatically transformed by the rise of direct-to-consumer streaming platforms and the growing popularity of at-home entertainment." (The film also won Oscars for best adapted screenplay and for best supporting actor.) In the days before the Oscars telecast, the best picture race came to be seen as a proxy battle between Apple and Netflix, the streaming giant that has been angling for Hollywood's marquee prize for at least the last half-decade, spending heavily on splashy promotional campaigns. Netflix was a double best picture contender this year, recognized for Jane Campion's haunting Western The Power of the Dog and Adam McKay's doomsday satire Don't Look Up.
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  • Winning only best song does not make it a big winner.

    • Not to mention, the song itself was the worst song ever put in a Bond film. And the movie itself was a convoluted mess. But I'm sure my opinion on both is in the minority.
      • There's only one thing in the world I'd consider myself an expert on. Just one- James Bond. Go ahead- ask me anything. The worst Bond theme? It's close; but the honor has to go to Die Another Day/Madonna. Horrible. The Writing's On The Wall" from Spectre- wimpy beyond belief. "Another Way to Die;' awful, nothing but noise. Want a hidden gem? Surrender/kd Lang from TND. Majestic, and was supposed to be the main theme til marketing got ahold of it and swapped places with that dreary Sheryl Crow.

  • No mention of Will Smith walking on stage and slapping Chris Rock? That was the only interesting thing from the entire event...

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by thegarbz ( 1787294 )

      Indeed, though I'm not sure it qualifies as the greatest moment in TV as Chris Rock would have you believe. I don't know why they invited him. He used to be a good comedian able to come up with funny jokes and stories that were relevant to the discourse of the day. These days he relies on being a shock jock and taking cheap shots insulting people, in this case the medical condition of the person sitting in front of him on stage.

      It's a shame Will Smith's hand was open.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by Kokuyo ( 549451 )

        While I partially agree with the joke being very crude, I must also say that just suffering hair loss isn't something that is off limits for jokes. Male baldness has been the bud of many a joke for eons.

        They wanted to be equal only the moment you treat them as equal with all that entails, people lose their shit. Sorry, not sorry. If her medical condition was cancer, sure then Chris Rock would be an absolute asshole. Alopecia? That merely makes him a bit cringeworthy.

        Not to mention Smith laughed until he loo

        • While I partially agree with the joke being very crude, I must also say that just suffering hair loss isn't something that is off limits for jokes. Male baldness has been the bud of many a joke for eons.

          Sorry but male pattern baldness is something common to the point of general expectation and comparing it with a woman who had long hair suffering from alopecia is insanely tone-deaf.

          Equality is a bullshit excuse. You can't claim sexual equality in jokes when society does not treat looks equally. Until you address the latter the former retains a very different level of offense.

          Not to mention Smith laughed until he looked at his wife, as far as I could see.

          Indeed people giggle at all sorts of things until jokes set in and click. Now do you think someone who was genuinely happy gets up an

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by Kokuyo ( 549451 )

            Your whole mannerism in this screams white knight...

            Listen buddy, you can fight their fights all you want, they're not going to let you touch them...

          • "Equality is a bullshit excuse. You can't claim sexual equality in jokes when society does not treat looks equally. Until you address the latter the former retains a very different level of offense." What a crock of shit this is, you want equality but without all the bullshit reality of being equal, just the icing, none of the cake. "No, people just need to stop equating funny = offending people by picking on medical conditions that have caused them significant distress in their career" Sorry, let's just

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by Jhon ( 241832 )

              "Reality again is all jokes offend someone, isn't it great how every five years or so we have to remind people that this is the case. I guess it's Ok to assault people when you disagree with something they said, this is the world you want?"

              It's really less then every five years now-a-days. More like every 5 mins.

              Crude jokes aren't new and I doubt you'll be able to get rid of them without destroying comedy. Even if you manage to do that, people will still laugh at other peoples misery/folly.

              “I

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by skam240 ( 789197 )

              What a crock of shit this is, you want equality but without all the bullshit reality of being equal, just the icing, none of the cake.

              The above poster explained how this scenario is different than making fun of male baldness. Maybe try addressing what they're saying instead of ranting about whatever you seem to want to.

              I guess it's Ok to assault people when you disagree with something they said, this is the world you want? I have a feeling your going to be ducking a lot.

              And now you're just being ridiculous. Not only did the above poster not say the violence was justified but it's also completely possible for someone to not approve of both the joke and the slap.

              • A joke is a joke is a joke... and no, this scenario is no different. Alopecia is alopecia and the fact it's more likely to happen to men does not make it any more or less off limits when women are the butt of the joke. The argument that a woman suffering from baldness is worse off than a man is laughable given it's infinitely more socially acceptable for women to wear wigs and extensions (whether they have decent natural hair or not) than it is for men to even wear as little as a toupee. Men are essentially
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              • but it was pointed out that society doesn't give a shit when a man has that condition

                Yes, that is why there is absolutely no money in trying to grow hair on balding men.

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                  • But if you think men lay awake at night panicking about their lack of hair

                    People willing to undergo the pain of surgery to correct it do care about it.

                    or get passed over for jobs

                    Numerous studies have shown that men are adversely affected financially by having hair loss. The world is a cruel place.

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by Mitreya ( 579078 )

                Nobody is making the argument you claim. Nobody has justified the assault.

                Yes, yes, people absolutely do.
                The internet is full of "I don't condone violence BUT ..." arguments. Some people with high level of visibility (e.g., Krystal Ball on Breaking Points) went as far as to say that it isn't actually assault because Will Smith just slapped Chris Rock and Chris Rock is fine.

                He apparently apologized, which is good.

                I haven't watched it, but my understanding that he apologized to the Oscars and not to Chris Rock. If so, he apologized not to lose his award, rather than out of any contrition.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by kackle ( 910159 )
          I didn't know anything about her alopecia; I thought the bad joke was because she was wearing all green. :)

          By the way, watching Chris Rock after he was reproached was a good example of Tyson's "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
      • Ok, medical condition sounds like she has cancer. She's balding. Big whoop. Celebs go there knowing they will be roasted but somehow Jada is off-limits? Get the fuck outta here.

        • Re:Wait (Score:4, Insightful)

          by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Monday March 28, 2022 @07:59AM (#62395971)

          Another great tonedeaf comment.

          I'm balding. I'm male. I'm an engineer. It's expected. Make jokes of me all you want, I'll laugh at them.
          She's balding. She's an actress. Her job as well as society places certain expectations on her looks. Hair falling out in clumps (not balding, but rather quite ugly clumps that even male sufferers of the disease will opt for a wig or a complete shave) is not the same thing.

          Jada isn't off limits. No one that night was "roasted" about something that has caused them significant distress in their career.

          Get the fuck outta here.

          No, you get the fuck in here. Join us among the educated who have a clue about society expectations and medical conditions.

          Comparing a woman with alopecia to "balding" is just dumb, though I suspect you're a fan of low brow insults as a form of comedy. Shit man, even the likes of Jimmy Carr who's whole goal is to be as offensive as possible does so with more tact that this.

          • This one hit close to home for you eh? You can go stand in the corner with your 2 other "educated friends" while the rest of us are smart enough to recognize comedy for what it is, just a joke.

            • This one hit close to home for you eh?

              Hit home? Not at all. I find it lethargic to call out idiots on the internet. Idiots such as yourself. Don't flatter yourself or the OP. Not everyone who disagrees with you or calls you out for the cunt you are is "triggered" or "hit close to home".

              smart enough to recognize comedy for what it is, just a joke.

              The uneducated morons are only able to laugh at the expense of others. The actual smart people are able to laugh at comedy which doesn't rely on insults. Interestingly Chris Rock's standup routines from a decade ago were like this, actual intelligent humour. Sadl

              • Oh man the only cunt in this conversation is you my friend, it seems your intelligence is just to far advanced for the rest of us, you should try and enjoy this life a little, it's your only one. You sir are the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect, enjoy your mindful comedy. The part I like the most about all of this is the very best comedians in the world would laugh at your statements here, but there is not enough room for them and your ego in this conversation. good luck and keep drying up them pussi
          • While I feel sorry for her due to her medical condition, she's a celebrity that profits millions from being a public person. You can't have it both ways. Does the poor rich celebrity think they're being harassed? Go do something else, like driving a truck. Or start taking roles in indie movies so you can actually have something to show in terms of artistry.

            Making the *same* joke about a co-worker would be very, very rude indeed, but then, that would be just a regular person dealing with a medical conditio

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by SumDog ( 466607 )

            Tone deaf? Will Smith walked up on stage and punched a comedian because he didn't like the joke. Then yelled out the F-work on a live broadcast.

            You may not like the joke, but physically slapping someone is way worse than words. Words are not violence. Silence is the opposite of violence. What Will Smith did was violence. It was the wrong response and he set a bad example for anyone who looks up to him. He did the wrong thing.

            Chris Rock made a fucking joke. That's still legal in America. This isn't fucking C

            • because he didn't like the joke.

              If that's what you think then yes, you're tone deaf too. It's pretty much the dictionary definition as well since you clearly don't understand *why* Will Smith did what he did or why the joke in this context elicited this response.

          • So women are off-limits? A little old-fashioned. Maybe she should have stayed home and baked cookies.

            • So women are off-limits?

              Not at all. The only thing we've established in this entire thread is that you have insanely poor reading comprehension. Try again my point is in there somewhere, but you missed it Stormtrooper.

          • Join us among the educated who have a clue about society expectations and medical conditions.

            A black person concerned about the image of black people slapped the crap out of a stand-up comedian over a "Yo Mama" joke. He then later apologized not to the audience, but only to the the institution of the Oscars, apparently because he was only concerned about his career.

            My expectation of society is that some people are jerks and you just have to live with it. I don't expect people to act like entitled dumb thugs over stupid shit.

            • A black person concerned about the image of black people slapped the crap out of a stand-up comedian over a "Yo Mama" joke.

              I'm sorry you didn't read you my post and still don't understand the context of why the joke was offensive to the person in question. Is there a mother tongue or a first language you speak in which I can try to translate my post for you? You seem to be struggling with English. Especially considering you think it was a yo mama joke.

          • You mean the medical condition of projected vanity? Did you even look at Jada's social media? Seems like she was proud of it. A comedian made fun of that pride. But here you are defending a made up thing about how what? Women want to be pretty and no one should say anything about it? Her pate looks fan-fucking-tastic. And flouted by none other than her. She wears it well. Stick your shining knight shit in a drawer.

            Ususally, your posts are insightful and informative. Hey yours is only one of two modded up s

            • You mean the medical condition of projected vanity? Did you even look at Jada's social media? Seems like she was proud of it.

              Yes quite interesting how people put on a brave face on the Instagram. Now dig below social media and you may find more interesting stories, those of depression and despair, especially for someone whose career depends on a certain amount of vanity and whose career is largely dependent on society's acceptance of them based ... on their looks. Seriously ever wonder why there's so few older female actresses? Hint: Hollywood is a bad as jokes make them out to be.

              It's one thing to poke fun of someone, quite anot

              • It was on TikTok. You should check it out. I'm not a user of either Instagram or Facebook or any so called social media except to check out what the hoi polloi are getting at. Seriously. So please don't assume stuff that I'm content to tell you. I agree that looks is everything with image based media. It goes with the territory. Mrs. Pinkett Smith could have wigged up. It can add flair and variety. She chose not to. Her wound is ongoing and she wears her very own solution to it, proudly. Why is that a probl
      • Will Smith needs to learn to take an F'n joke, he is a good actor but that whole family has issues.

        • It's more that Chris Rock has to get new material that doesn't require people to beat some sense into him.

        • Will Smith needs to learn to take an F'n joke

          Jokes are only funny when they aren't about something that had a big personal impact on your family. If your mother died in a car crash and I made a joke about it to your face the day after do you expect yourself to laugh?

          I wouldn't. I'd be sad if you did. Hell I would expect if you had any kind of empathy you'd take a swing.

          Learn the difference between joking about something society generally finds acceptable, and taking low blows at someone who is battling a disease that could have spelt the end of their

      • Wow, modded up for a comment commending violence - very classy of the both the commenter and the modder.

        You mention his joke being a cheap shot regarding her medical condition but a LOT of people had no idea she had a medical condition before this situation brought it to light. There are many women of color who have short hairstyles by their own choice, so it's not clear that Chris had any reason to suspect she had a medical condition before he made that joke. Even if he did know, that didn't give Will

        • Wow, modded up for a comment commending violence - very classy of the both the commenter and the modder.

          Not everything in life needs to be classy. If you want a safe space go to reddit.

          You mention his joke being a cheap shot regarding her medical condition but a LOT of people had no idea she had a medical condition before this situation brought it to light.

          I'm sure you've lived under a rock about a prominent female actress who is overtly vocal about her medical condition. That doesn't excuse someone in the entertainment industry for not doing their homework. "I didn't know" doesn't make other people feel better, it just makes the person making the insult look like even more of a fool.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by suss ( 158993 )

      That was staged, to get the oscars into the news...
      I doubt a lot of people were even aware that the oscars were still held, if they weren't reminded.

      • That was staged

        So staged that they cut the feed on TV?

      • If it was staged it woulda been Jada throwing the slap, because that would fit the narrative of the day that women are powerful and don't need men to back them up.

        Honestly, this was just a temper tantrum by somebody that should have known better. He took a moment that may have had a negative impact on Chris Rock after the fact for picking on somebody for something she couldn't help, and turned the public against Smith instead. Another not-so-smart moment from that family.

      • Lol, I was reading this on a right wing gun forum too. The same jackoff dumbasses that think they know "the truth" about the world, the globalhomo cabal, the biden family pedo ring, and lizard people of course would immediately declare this a hoax.

        The same problem, however, afflicts your theory as does all the other usual crackpot theories - it assumes a lot of people will keep a secret, and they 100% won't.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by MrKaos ( 858439 )

      No mention of Will Smith walking on stage and slapping Chris Rock? That was the only interesting thing from the entire event...

      and then yelling at C.R from the audience to "Keep my wifes name out of your fucking mouth" twice really loud, like he had something to prove, it was a real dick move.

      I think C.R handled things like a professional and kept the show moving, however it would be appropriate for CR to press charges and also for the venue to press charges against W.S. It's a common law assault in front of millions of witnesses.

      If W.S had thought about it the classy move would have been to say "G.I Jane, a story about a wom

      • Agree! Will Smith and his family have been blessed beyond measure. Even if the joke is not in good taste, he should not lash out and "smack" a comedian. I think this kind of thing sets a tremendous precedent - Will Smith should apologize profusely, and I would imagine this would cause other comedians to seriously consider whether they should speak at stupid pompous ceremonies like this. If a comedian's usual routine isn't desired then they shouldn't be there, and comedians have a habit of trying to find the
        • Worst part, in my opinion, is that nothing happened to Will Smith. The joke was in bad taste and crossed a line, but you can't just get up and hit the comedian. And if you do, you shouldn't be able to go back to your seat and receive an award. At the very least, he should have been ejected from the ceremony.

          • At the very least, he should have been ejected from the ceremony.

            If virtually anyone else in that auditorium had done that, that would have been the result.

            RHIP, eh?

          • The joke was in bad taste and crossed a line

            what line was that?

            i imagine itll sound pretty stupid once you write it out.

      • Chris Rock has already declined to press charges. That would frankly be career suicide. As big as his career is, it's fucking nothing to Smith's. Pressing charges would actually obscure the debate, which is one that needs to be had. What we're seeing is that Will Smith is just another spoiled Hollywood brat who has never grown up because he's never been expected to do so, and that's a discussion worth having. The entitlement he demonstrated by committing assault and battery in the most public venue possible

        • I hope this does a lot more damage to his career than I think it will. It just might though, because he has always put himself forward as a much cooler and enlightened character than he's been revealed to be. It's not like he's some gangsta rapper or what have you, whose fans could be expected to revel in bad boy behavior.

          Agreed. It's similar to Mel Gibson who held himself up as a moral, family man. The outrage was 10 times greater than if someone else had made the same comments he had (I think 10 plus years of punishment is a bit much, though).

          When you hold yourself up to a high level (and make a career on that), you need to expect repercussions greater then if a punk had committed the same infraction.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by MrKaos ( 858439 )

          What we're seeing is that Will Smith is just another spoiled Hollywood brat who has never grown up because he's never been expected to do so, and that's a discussion worth having.

          I think what we're seeing is a classic case of displaced aggression. He was laughing up until the point of seeing his wife's face, who was obviously displeased with the Gi Jane jibe. Once he saw her displeasure he was caught in a catch 22 situation of being embarrassed by her and having to re-assert his masculinity. He could not correct it with her so WS took it out on a softer target, CR, knowing he was not in a position to assert himself.

          If you look at CR, you could see his body language was deesca

      • I told my son that I can't wait for Chris's next comedy album. He agreed.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by MrKaos ( 858439 )

          I told my son that I can't wait for Chris's next comedy album. He agreed.

          The performance was striking and hard hitting, having a real impact that turned heads.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by EvilSS ( 557649 )
      So of course the 40th time I don't watch the Oscars something interesting happens! Damn my luck.
    • Rock should have just fucked Smith's wife, then he wouldn't have done shit except cry and apologize.
    • Will Smith winning the Oscar for Lead Actor, that's the real slap in the face.
      • Will Smith should have gotten it in 2001 for 'Ali'. But Denzel got it for "Training Day" instead that year, which to me wasn't such a great movie.
        But then Denzel should have gotten an Oscar for "The Hurricane" in 2000, However, that movie had to compete with "American Beauty", Kevin Spacey taking home the Oscar for best actor there.
        So I think Denzel got it in 2001 rather for making up not getting it in 2000 than really 'beating' Will Smith in 2001. And probably the jury though the same thing "The Fresh Pr

    • Getting hit in the face was the first hit Rock has had in decades, so ...

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by labnet ( 457441 )

      Looked Staged. False flag to boost terrible ratings?

    • Everyone is saying "ohhh, Jada Smith suffers from a medical condition called *alopecia*. Maybe Chris Rock didn't know that or he wouldn't have joked about it".

      I wonder if these people have looked up what the word "alopecia" means? It means "hair loss". That's all it means. Swap in the word "hair loss" for "alopecia" in the above paragraph, and see if it still makes sense to you.

      If he'd made the joke about Michael Bolton, no one would think twice about it.

  • Who cares? (Score:3)

    by devslash0 ( 4203435 ) on Monday March 28, 2022 @04:36AM (#62395707)

    Oscars, or any other Hollywood award for that matter, are just another event where actors kiss their own arse, and they don't provide any value what-so-ever.

  • It's strange to see something win best cinematography and best film editing but no nomination for directing. Do the Academy awards think directors just throw a camera at a camera man and say "have at it"?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Alcari ( 1017246 )
      No, the awards have a vested interest in spreading as many awards as possible, because getting an award means free advertising for a film. It's no different than your local ice-cream place having a big plaque stating it won the "best icecream of Mainstreet, uneven side, north, 2019" award.
      • Incorrect. Some years there are winners of like 10 Oscars.

      • ...because getting an award means free advertising for a film.

        Oscars are usually bought, not awarded out of merit. They are probably charged against the advertising budgets of all the nominees.

    • Do the Academy awards think directors just throw a camera at a camera man and say "have at it"?

      If we are talking about Marvel movies, then yes :)

    • Dune is a photogenic masterpiece, but directing wise it sucks, I felt nothing for the characters. The character in the film with the most charisma was the worm that swallowed the harvester.

  • Derivatives and corporate back scratching.

  • But I care enough to comment about it.
  • When it comes to being left out of the director oscar for Dune, one of two things (possibly both) are likely culprits: (1)It now has massive, proven business potential as a franchise juggernaut, and the money guys don't want anyone from creative having too much personal weight over its future. (2)Also possible is that the other nominees just had more going for their favor as investments, and an auteur who "leaves everything on the field" just doesn't count as much.
    • They're waiting for the second half before saying he got it right.

      He can still screw the pooch so it's to early to give him ward on the entire movie

      • Could be. The suits may think it will motivate him more if he's still hungry for the statue. That's the kind of ass-hattery they call "managing the talent."
        • Having worked in the entertainment industry for over 20 years, I can assure you the moniker "talent" is the singularly most sarcastic professional label there is.
          • No one would be sarcastic about Denis Villeneuve's talent. I'm a pretty ruthless movie fan and critic, and he has more than met my standards.
            • The people called "talent" are in front of the camera, not behind it.
              • All the same to the guys who are only there because they brought their money. If you do anything other than write a check and cash another one, you're "talent."

  • To be fair, the ornithopter sound was brilliant. The ornithopters in general were brilliant.

    The movie was pretty good. If you're a fan of the book, you will be frustrated with what was left out for sure. But the audio/visuals of this movie are absolutely stunning, and those ornithopters are just incredible.

    I really hope Denis Villeneuve continues to make science fiction movies, and I really hope him and Hans Zimmer form a close working relationship going forward.

    • Let's face it, this clip won them that sound Oscar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • The movie was pretty good.

      I wanted to like it. It had a lot going for it, imho. But I feel like it was 2.5 hrs of my life I'll never get back. Sadly, I enjoyed the film for the most part but feel like it ended mid-sentence, which I hated. I'm actually surprised they didn't but big "TO BE CONCLUDED" text on the screen like the end of Matrix 2. Maybe had I known going in that it was only the first half of the story, I'd feel differently. But it felt god-awful at the time.

  • The Oscars were on last night? Who cares... Nothing but a wank-fest for a bunch of overly sensitive, self-important, loud mouthed idiots who live their lives playing pretend.

  • I'm confused. Who is Oscar? Is he the wiener guy?

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